A problem with breaking the law

Started by Tuomas, Sun 31/12/2006 02:10:30

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Tuomas

So yeah, here's the thing. For starters, I was more than able to do this, but after a while, say, a week, I can't find myself cabable of proceeding with such manners anymore. You see, I have a 100Mb connection, divided betwwen the whole building, a couple of flats that is. Now, I used to downlad stuff with P2P style for 900kB/s or more. Then suddenly it all ended like a life for a misguided hedgehog travelling over the motorway.

Basically one would think it's the firewall or so that the host has set, but as it is, I used to be able to download ILLEGAL stuff for an unbelieveable speed and it got me all turned on. Think of all the porn and stuff. Anyway, nowadays it just says connection timeout. I can't even dcc stuff to people while I can recieve stuff thusly nevertheless. I was wondering if anyone knew the reason for this and was willing to be a partner in crime, because damn, it's getting expensive to buy all the stuff I used to just, you know, steal. It's like going to the shop and actually pay for the grapefruits you're taking away with you, which is just silly. Now I know that I don't have a router, or at least, someone said I would know if I had one, so I know it's not that. My guess is, that there's a firewall blocking my pleasures, but I can't really get it into my head as it was before that I was able to download in such satanistic speeds.

Yes.

EDIT: yeah, the point ws to ask you're advice on this, because I really feel like fighting the power right now... there

Evil

I've had the same issue in the past. Turns out my ISP was just lagging baddly. But there could be tons of reasons that it's slow other then a firewall. Other people in your building could be downloading more, or even people in your local network. Someone in the next building over could be hosting or something and taking up a bunch of bandwidth. I'd say ride it out for another week or so.

That is if you can go another week without stealing.

SSH

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Gilbert

If you're talking about connection problems just for the past two weeks, it might be because of the network disaster in the S.E. Asia (i.e. here).
Due to earthquakes in the Taiwan area, MANY major undersea optical fibre cables were broken, leaving the whole S.E. Asia in VERY bad conditions.
For example, starting Thursday, it's near impossible for me to connect to any sites via internet, the condition seems to have improved a bit since yesterday, abeit EXTREMELY slow.
If you're having sloooow downloads using P2P services, it might be because of the above reason (if in case the **legal stuff had peers located mainly in Asian areas).

I'd heard today that the damages might not be completed recovered until late January.

InCreator

#4
Nobody can block P2P networking. And as much as I know, finnish hubs have loads of illegal stuff.
Your problem is simply that due firewall, you are unable to connect to hubs. Or if you do, in passive mode only, which sucks even more than no connection at all (extremely slow, most hubs disable searching, etc, etc).

What could help? Getting your settings right. If you're using DC++, or anything similar, it's a hell to set up, but still possible. For DC++, go through program help, it points to solutions and tools to test your connection.
Try to disable UPnP (universal plug'n'play) in your P2P program, and setting your IP-address manually. If the connection is divided by whole house, you *might* be having local IP adress (usually 192.168.0.xxx), in which case you have to figure out the real IP address (from your house to outside world) and give it to your P2P program.

Do you have a router in your home? In this case, closest place to find out your real IP address is to use router configuration utility, just open internet browser and go to http://192.168.0.1/ and browse around until you find it.
I'm not sure what is your case exactly, but it's worth a try...

I think that this is a thing you can ask your ISP if you can't find it out by yourself. Just don't explain why do you need it ;)
or say that you can't play multiplayer games, etc

Tuomas

yeah, I asked my roommates too. They said the connection is very slow nowadays, and DC++ or soulseek won't connect, as in, I can search stuff and talk on the chat window and people can download from me, but as I try to download it just says connection timout. Basically this'd be easily explainable if it were my firewall, but it's not. And I'm pretty sure I don't have a router, and that my solid IP is set to the programs.

Now I can download withbittorrent, currently I'm getting something for 12kb/s, which isn't very fast for a 100Mb/s connection, but it's better than nothing. ok

But then, on irc, when I try to DCC something I can't. I can recieve, but can't send. It's liek the very opposite to how DC++ works for me  ???

My guess is, that for the first week my connection went straight through the firewall my isp is using, and then they set it up to prevent me from downloading. Because as I said, I used to be able to download very fast, but suddenly everything changed.

InCreator

#6
I repeat: firewalls can be bypassed. It's just a bit difficult to do, but possible.
EDIT: Wait... I found this from DC++ Help:

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My University blocks DC++
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Blocking and Throttling
Many Universities have policies that limit the usage of peer to peer applications by students and employees. Typically, these policies block or limit the amount of bandwidth that p2p applications can use, and are enforced by employing solutions from Packeteer , NetLogic Microsystems , or a similar company. This software/hardware solution has the ability to look into a TCP packet, determine what class of application created it, then throttle or block it accordingly.

If you're behind such a block, please learn to live with it. Circumventing the block by proxying is detectable, is probably against your AUP, is technically difficult, and impossible to do without help from someone outside the firewall.

Network Address Translation
Other schools might have their network behind a NAT in which case an active connection is impossible. If you're inside a NAT, the IP reported by your computer will be in one of the non-routable IP ranges. In this case, try passive mode.

If you cannot connect to DC hubs or cannot transfer files in passive mode, the above advice about proxying applies.

Port Blocking
A few schools use simple port blocking, where common ports used by DC++ and other p2p applications are blocked. DC++ uses a wide range of ports for outgoing traffic and incoming traffic by default. If the school blocks port 411 outgoing connections, then that effectively cuts you off from all DC hubs since that is the default hub port. Hub lists contain the full address of many hubs and those that run on non-standard ports (i.e. hub.example.com:1411) may work.

If you appear to be completely blocked from the DC network, the above advice applies.

Your case? Then it's probably a dead end.

Tuomas

yeah, seems like it. oh well, I'll just use my brother's computer and my memorystick

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