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Title: Alone in the Dark--The Movie
Post by: Anarcho on Sat 15/01/2005 02:24:10
Anyone see the trailers for this dung-fest?  Was that Steven Dorf I saw?  And Christian Slater?  He's still alive? 

For those who haven't seen it, HOLLYWOOD has for whatever reason used the title "Alone in the Dark" for some new Alien rip-off.  Why?  Is it me, or was the whole charm and creepiness of Alone in the Dark linked to it's period setting?  I can just see the Hollywood exec in his ponytail and Hugo Boss suit saying, "19th century France, yeah, I'm thinking something sexier...with more space creatures and body armor..."

What a lost opportunity.
Title: Re: Alone in the Dark--The Movie
Post by: Bombadil on Sat 15/01/2005 09:58:51
I haven't heard nothing of this... until now.

If it's true, it is gonna turn into another bad-but-could-be-very-good movie based on a video game/book...
Title: Re: Alone in the Dark--The Movie
Post by: Privateer Puddin' on Sat 15/01/2005 10:00:00
Horrible, just plain Horrible. They're not in the dark. Or Alone.
Title: Re: Alone in the Dark--The Movie
Post by: Barbarian on Sat 15/01/2005 10:27:21
Yeah, I seen the trailer for this just recently:
http://movies.yahoo.com/shop?d=hv&id=1808495833&cf=trailer

It looks like the movie story-line and characters is loosely based on "Alone in the Dark 4 - The New Nightmare".

I enjoyed the Alone in the Dark series (and was actually working on a fan-made version based on it using the AGS editor), but it looks like they are gonna screw up on the movie version.  Well, who knows, it still might be a fun movie if you don't have many expectations.
Title: Re: Alone in the Dark--The Movie
Post by: Bombadil on Sat 15/01/2005 10:40:41
The trailer looked good.... until it screwed up all by itself...
Spoiler

The army appearing, aliens appearing, ...
[close]

I think I'm gonna go to the cinema to watch this movie, but I'll expect nothing but crap.
Title: Re: Alone in the Dark--The Movie
Post by: Nacho on Sat 15/01/2005 14:17:35
Reminds me a lot to "the Relic".... That was a good book saga, whyÃ,  did they stop with the first book? And why did they remove Pendergast?
Title: Re: Alone in the Dark--The Movie
Post by: Sylpher on Sat 15/01/2005 14:49:38
Have you seen the soundtrack? I think one of the producers has a hard on for metal variations cause nothing builds atmopshere like Death Angel, Meshuggah, Mastodon...ect. As well, a double album? This isn't exactly an epic..

Track Listing:
Disc 1:
1. Dimmu Borgir - Vredesbyrd
2. Shadows Fall - What Drives The Weak
3. Fear Factory - Cyberwaste
4. In Flames - Touch Of Red
5. Strapping Young Lad - Devour
6. Agnostic Front - Peace
7. God Forbid - Gone Forever
8. Chimaira - Down Again
9. Dark Tranquility - Lost To Apathy
10. Exodus - Blacklist
11. Machine Head - Imperium
12. Soilwork - Stabbing The Drama
13. Lacuna Coil - Daylight Dancer
14. The Dillinger Escape Plan - Panasonic Youth
15. Meshuggah - Rational Gaze
16. Nightwish - Wish I Had An Angel
17. Cradle Of Filth - Mother Of Abominations

Disc 2:
1. Arch Enemy - Dead Eyes See No Future
2. Death Angel - The Devil Incarnate
3. Diecast - Medieval
4. Fireball Ministry - Daughter Of The Damned
5. Heaven Shall Burn - The Weapon They Fear
6. Hypocrisy - Eraser
7. Mastodon - Blood And Thunder
8. Misery Index - The Great Depression
9. Mnemic - Ghost
10. Dew-Scented - Slaughtervain
11. Suffocation - Souls To Deny
12. Raunchy - Watch Out
13. Kataklysm - As I Slither
14. Bloodbath - Outnumbering The Day
15. All Shall Perish - Deconstruction
16. Bleed The Sky - Minion
17. Samael - On Earth
18. Dying Fetus - One Shot, One Kill
19. The Haunted - 99
Title: Re: Alone in the Dark--The Movie
Post by: Ghormak on Sat 15/01/2005 15:51:31
QuoteTrack listing:
...
... what the hell?

The ghosts in the game dancing to Saint-Saëns' "Dance Macabre" was good enough for me!

Oh wait. Sorry, for a second there I thought the movie was going to be based on the game.
Title: Re: Alone in the Dark--The Movie
Post by: edmundito on Sat 15/01/2005 16:45:23
Hah, the trailer has the same music fromt that stupid Prince of Persia Warrior Within comercial (http://gametrailers.com/player.php?id=4372ype=mov)... which makes me thinks that there's too many posers out there thinking that this is awesome for everybody.
Title: Re: Alone in the Dark--The Movie
Post by: HillBilly on Sat 15/01/2005 21:00:44
It's probably gonna be as good as that "Doom" movie they're making.



oh my.  :-\
Title: Re: Alone in the Dark--The Movie
Post by: LGM on Sun 16/01/2005 02:41:16
It's directed by Uwe Boll. Infamous director of the crapfest "House of the Dead" and upcoming Bloodrayne adaptation. That trailer sucks too.

This move will suck aswell. Filled with weak characters, cheap digital effects, and senseless action with no direction at all.

Uwe Boll is a 12 year old with a short attention span who just happens to be handed millions of dollars to make movies. Ugh. I think I'll wait for a TV viewing for this one. If I'm not doing anything at the time.
Title: Re: Alone in the Dark--The Movie
Post by: edmundito on Sun 16/01/2005 03:33:12
If anyone knows the name of that song in the Warrior Within comercial and the Alone movie trailer, let me know... because I MUST HAVE IT!!11
Title: Re: Alone in the Dark--The Movie
Post by: Haddas on Sun 16/01/2005 10:30:24
I kinda like senseless action with no direction. 80's action movies, here I come! When a remake of something is made, I try to watch the film as a completely different product than the game it was based on. That usually gets me through.
Title: Re: Alone in the Dark--The Movie
Post by: strazer on Sun 16/01/2005 12:02:02
The song in the Alone in the Dark movie trailer is "I Stand Alone" by Godsmack.
Title: Re: Alone in the Dark--The Movie
Post by: LGM on Sun 16/01/2005 16:14:38
If you've seen "House of the Dead" you'll know exactly what I mean by "Action without any direction" Uwe Boll can't direct.
Title: Re: Alone in the Dark--The Movie
Post by: DGMacphee on Sun 16/01/2005 16:44:53
Rubbish. Uwe Boll is a fabulous director.

Here's someone who agrees with me: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0093051/board/thread/7655371?d=8095318#8095318
Title: Re: Alone in the Dark--The Movie
Post by: HillBilly on Sun 16/01/2005 17:01:14
But we all agree that Sam Raimi is the king, right? RIGHT?
Title: Re: Alone in the Dark--The Movie
Post by: LGM on Mon 17/01/2005 01:58:08
Yes, we agree.
Title: Re: Alone in the Dark--The Movie
Post by: Nacho on Mon 17/01/2005 12:23:33
I like Roland Emmerich, if you ask me for a director with enough wisdom for using the new digital effects... bu  may be wrong!
Title: Re: Alone in the Dark--The Movie
Post by: Nine Toes on Tue 18/01/2005 08:32:40
I like the soundtrack, even though it doesn't really set the mood, but I'm not really crazy for what I'm hearing about the movie itself.

IMO, Dimmu Borgir might go good in the movie... they're dark, and the symphony mixed with metal sound that they have could be useful in the movie to set the right atmosphere, if used in the right way.  That's only my opinion, though.
Title: Re: Alone in the Dark--The Movie
Post by: DGMacphee on Sat 29/01/2005 00:40:07
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/alone_in_the_dark/
Title: Re: Alone in the Dark--The Movie
Post by: BerserkerTails on Sat 29/01/2005 01:25:47
I saw it last night (Thursday), in a special sneek peek.

I personally had a great time. Mainly because the whole audience was laughing with me at how terrible the movie was.

Seriously, if you don't like movies that are complete pieces of shit, don't go see it.
Title: Re: Alone in the Dark--The Movie
Post by: Domino on Sat 29/01/2005 01:31:06
Aww, c'mon. How can a movie with Christian Slater in it be bad.  ;D

sarcasm implied here

But i did like Broken Arrow though.

Shawn
Title: Re: Alone in the Dark--The Movie
Post by: Unilin on Sat 29/01/2005 14:45:47
I watched it yesterday, matineé price, and am willing to state that it will be the worst movie of 2005.  This thing was worse than RE:A.  My friends and I just sat there making sarcastic comments, pointing out plot holes and breaking into laughter during the action scenes.  Mind you, saying "plot holes" implies there must be a plot, which would be going a bit far for this masterpiece.
Title: Re: Alone in the Dark--The Movie
Post by: Oz on Sat 29/01/2005 15:53:50
One question:

Does this movie have anything at all to do with the original game?
Title: Re: Alone in the Dark--The Movie
Post by: LGM on Sat 29/01/2005 15:59:21
Hey! I liked RE:A.. As far as an action flick goes. It's leaps and bounds better than HOTD and AITD I'm sure.

And no, the movie has nothing to do with the game. Just like HOTD.
Title: Re: Alone in the Dark--The Movie
Post by: BerserkerTails on Sat 29/01/2005 18:32:06
Oz: The main character in the movie, along with in the games, is named Edward Carnby. Both movie and game Carnby are paranormal investigators.

That's the end of the similarities.

I just thought you guys might want some more info on how bad the movie is... Here's some fun facts:

-The plot is so confusing (Not because it's difficult to understand, but because Uwe Boll can't tell a story properly) that there's actually 3 minutes of just narrated text at the start, explaining the whole backstory (And essentially ruining the ending).

-The special effects are pitiful, especially during a fight scene in Christian Slater's apartment (Which is apparently a massiv warehouse...), in which there is literally just shots of people shooting guns against a BLACK BACKGROUND. Once the fight ends, the warehouse is visiable again.

-The music is terrible. Why is there no music during the huge Starship Toopers-esque battle at the end, yet tribal drumming as Christian Slater walks around doing nothing?

-The dialog is even worse. I believe that the f-word was inserted into the lines just to get the film to a higher rating, as there was barely any blood/gore (Stephen Dorf's character gets the brunt of the f-word insertions).

-The plot is STILL so bad, that Christian Slater narrates everything he's doing just to keep the audience in the know.

-Some characters (IE: Stephen Dorf's character) are TOO dynamic, changing their motivations on a dime.

-The movie was only an hour and a half long, but felt like four hours.

That's it for today, maybe I'll post some more later, I have a ton of them.
Title: Re: Alone in the Dark--The Movie
Post by: c.leksutin on Sun 30/01/2005 01:16:47
How is it that Uwe Boll continues to con studios into letting him direct anything over then the parking lot traffic?  The mans career has been one disaster after another.  Is he some kind of tax write-off or something?  Seriously, can anyone tell me how this man got into this business?  because if he can put out nothing but pure crap, I ought to be able to get a job with the 1 year of film school I have...


C.
Title: Re: Alone in the Dark--The Movie
Post by: TheYak on Sun 30/01/2005 02:00:38
Quote from: c.leksutin on Sun 30/01/2005 01:16:47
How is it that Uwe Boll continues to con studios into letting him direct anything over then the parking lot traffic? 
I feel much the same about David Mamet.  I watched Spartan (perhaps the worst movie I've seen, at least the worst with any kind of budget) and was amazed to find he'd done Hannibal (which I enjoyed..  mostly).  I later found a comedy he'd directed that had the same thumbprint of evil upon it. 
Title: Re: Alone in the Dark--The Movie
Post by: DGMacphee on Sun 30/01/2005 03:27:50
Comparing Uwe Boll to David Mamet is like comparing a rusty, dented Volkswagon to a SAAB convertible.

Watch Glengarry Glen Ross or Wag the Dog and then eat my balls.

Also, I heard Uwe Boll wants to direct as his next videogame-to-movie project the Hitman movie. I read he wants to cast Bruce Willis as Agent 47.
Title: Re: Alone in the Dark--The Movie
Post by: c.leksutin on Sun 30/01/2005 03:35:45
I will  personally beat his ass if he does....


C.
Title: Re: Alone in the Dark--The Movie
Post by: DGMacphee on Sun 30/01/2005 03:48:28
Need a hand?
Title: Re: Alone in the Dark--The Movie
Post by: BerserkerTails on Sun 30/01/2005 03:59:31
According to IMDB, his next projects are:

Bloodrayne (In Post-Production already)
Hunter: The Reckoning
FarCry

I mean COME ON. It's obvious that he's crap at making video game films. So *WHY* does he continue to do them?!
Title: Re: Alone in the Dark--The Movie
Post by: DGMacphee on Sun 30/01/2005 04:11:43
(http://metropolis.japantoday.com/xmg/466/466-IP-Edward-Norton2.jpg)

"Cause he's insane..."
Title: Re: Alone in the Dark--The Movie
Post by: LGM on Sun 30/01/2005 05:08:28
He's from Northern Germany.. Need I say more. There are some wackos from there.
Title: Re: Alone in the Dark--The Movie
Post by: Redwall on Sun 30/01/2005 21:47:31
Quote from: BerserkerTails on Sun 30/01/2005 03:59:31
According to IMDB, his next projects are:

Bloodrayne (In Post-Production already)
Hunter: The Reckoning
FarCry

I mean COME ON. It's obvious that he's crap at making video game films. So *WHY* does he continue to do them?!

At least it's nothing important. :D
Title: Re: Alone in the Dark--The Movie
Post by: LGM on Sun 30/01/2005 23:28:51
BloodRayne and Hunter, yes.. But FARCRY?!? One of the best games of 2004?
Title: Re: Alone in the Dark--The Movie
Post by: BMF-Inc on Mon 31/01/2005 07:25:52
"Saying Uwe Boll's Alone in the Dark is better than his 2003 American debut House of the Dead is akin to praising syphilis for not being HIV."
-- Nicholas Schager, SLANT MAGAZINE

This is, by far, the best way to describe this movie...need we say more?
Title: Re: Alone in the Dark--The Movie
Post by: Redwall on Tue 01/02/2005 00:32:58
Quote from: [lgm] on Sun 30/01/2005 23:28:51
BloodRayne and Hunter, yes.. But FARCRY?!? One of the best games of 2004?

True. But did you listen to its voice acting? It was like an action movie satire, except it wasn't meant to be.

BTW - Who wants to bet they'll remove the plot twist with Doyle at the end (assuming Doyle will still exist)?
Title: Re: Alone in the Dark--The Movie
Post by: TheYak on Tue 01/02/2005 00:41:25
Quote from: DGMacphee on Sun 30/01/2005 03:27:50

Watch Glengarry Glen Ross or Wag the Dog and then eat my balls.

That's what makes me detest the guy so much.  Hannibal was watchable and I loved Wag the Dog.  So, seeing those titles in his filmography confounded me.  His other recent films, Heist and Lifeboat I've yet to see but don't particularly want to after Spartan.  The comedy I was referring to was State and Main.  I tried watching it but the dialogue twisted my intestines and I found myself unable to continue due to flashbacks from Spartan.  And the dialogue style is intentional! Val Kilmer's nothing great (minus Top Secret, of course) but he did a better job in Real Genius. 

Worse yet, David's 'Unique' approach to dialogue is to have the actors deliver it as unrealisticly as possible and have the most inane comments possible.  If it were parody, I could understand, but trying to foist BS upon us in the name of genius with fans crying, "You just don't -get- it" is asinine.   I will, however, give Glengarray Glen Ross another shot if only because of your recommendation and the 2 DM films I've seen that haven't blown the proverbial goat.

Edit: And Farcry? WTF? The game with decent gameplay that gets monotonous towards the end and having one of the worst plotlines of 2004? (Bloodrayne's is worse, however, but at least enjoyable in a b-movie way)
Title: Re: Alone in the Dark--The Movie
Post by: BerserkerTails on Tue 01/02/2005 01:33:42
Okay, here's a question... "House of the Dead" cost 12 million dollars to make, plsu 10 million for distribution and marketing. It's total income, worldwide, was 13 million dollars.

9 million dollars not repaid.

"Alone in the Dark", which had a 20 million dollar production budget (No announcement or estimate on the marketing figure yet) made LESS money in it's opening weekend than House of the Dead!

So if Uwe Boll's films are NOT making money, why do people keep hiring him?!?
Title: Re: Alone in the Dark--The Movie
Post by: LGM on Tue 01/02/2005 02:14:16
His mommy must be screwing the executives.;.

Hell if I know...
Title: Re: Alone in the Dark--The Movie
Post by: DGMacphee on Tue 01/02/2005 05:58:16
Quote from: YakSpit on Tue 01/02/2005 00:41:25
That's what makes me detest the guy so much.  Hannibal was watchable and I loved Wag the Dog.  So, seeing those titles in his filmography confounded me.  His other recent films, Heist and Lifeboat I've yet to see but don't particularly want to after Spartan.  The comedy I was referring to was State and Main.  I tried watching it but the dialogue twisted my intestines and I found myself unable to continue due to flashbacks from Spartan.  And the dialogue style is intentional! Val Kilmer's nothing great (minus Top Secret, of course) but he did a better job in Real Genius. 

Heist, I've heard, is really good. Haven't seen it, but want to. Glengarry has some killer lines, especially Alec Baldwin's monologue. But keep in mind that my original point is that you can not put Mamet and Boll in even the same league. Mamet is an accomplished playwright as well as an accomplished screenwriter. He's had a range of hits (as well as some misses) in a career that has earnt him the title of one of Hollywood's best screenwriters.

Boll, meanwhile, has directed two movies based on video games. Both panned and made very little money. He's neither original or as creative as Mamet. That's why putting them in the same category is IMO a little misguided.

As for Far Cry, I was very meh about it. I can think of better titles to claim Best of 2004.
Title: Re: Alone in the Dark--The Movie
Post by: TheYak on Tue 01/02/2005 09:42:58
Alright, I'll agree that Mamet isn't nearly as horrid as Boll but he still gets the ultra-stinky award for not learning from his mistakes.  Spartan was his most recent (last I checked) and earns my pick for crappiest supposedly non-B-list movie of the past few years.
Title: Re: Alone in the Dark--The Movie
Post by: DGMacphee on Tue 01/02/2005 14:07:19
True. I've heard a mixed reaction about Spartan. Some love it, and some really detest it.
Title: Re: Alone in the Dark--The Movie
Post by: LGM on Tue 01/02/2005 17:26:35
Okay.. Maybe best wasn't the right word. Most popular game of 2004.

And Boll apparently has another film that is actually decent. It has a 6 on IMDB, anyways.
Title: Re: Alone in the Dark--The Movie
Post by: Redwall on Tue 01/02/2005 22:40:18
I think Doom 3 or HL2 or Halo 2 or GTA:SA are one of the most popular (probably Halo 2).

I would say Far Cry is one of the most memorable FPSs of 2004. ;)
Title: Re: Alone in the Dark--The Movie
Post by: LGM on Wed 02/02/2005 00:28:37
Well if you want to get technical..
Title: Re: Alone in the Dark--The Movie
Post by: DGMacphee on Wed 02/02/2005 05:53:59
We do.
Title: Re: Alone in the Dark--The Movie
Post by: Haddas on Wed 02/02/2005 17:50:38
http://www.somethingawful.com/articles.php?a=2649

A "behind the scenes" "article" by somethingawful.com consering the movie in question
Title: Re: Alone in the Dark--The Movie
Post by: Eggie on Wed 02/02/2005 22:21:35
I was just about the post the same link.
Unbelievable stuff in that article. I may have only heard of this Uew Boll guy yesterday but he is now my new idol!

Ed Wood with a massive budget and less talent. How can you not love 'im.
Title: Re: Alone in the Dark--The Movie
Post by: Redwall on Thu 03/02/2005 03:22:46
Personally, I prefer Paul Anderson. But that's just me.
Title: Re: Alone in the Dark--The Movie
Post by: c.leksutin on Thu 03/02/2005 05:12:05
See, in my view, Paul Anderson is a decent directer. He has a decent sense of visual style, he can convey a story sucessfully in a visual format and he can get a good perfomance from his cast and crew.  To top it off he's written/directed several movies I like quite a bit.

Uwe Boll, on the other hand, is a disgrace to the medium of film.  He's also somewhat of an insperation:  If he can get studio's to let him direct, then any number of the asipring filmmakers that hang out here should be able to as well.  The difference being that given our chance, we're more apt to accomplish something of merrit with the opertunety.  I know that if someone gave me 12 million to make my first film, I wouln't blow it all on worthless f/x shots ripped directly from the matrix to prop up a video game film who's plot was never fully translated into english in the first place (I'm speaking of course,  of Uwe Boll's disasterpiece: House of the Dead).

I'm genuniely curious as to how he's managed to get both the rights AND the funding for these gems and and where the logic to hand over a brand as well know as Alone in the Dark to a director who's work goes direct to video more often then most porn productions came from.  I understand that having the right firends in the entertainment industry can get you places, but these studios are ultimatly in business to make money, which flat out isn't happening with any project Uwe Boll is at the helm of.

I'd really like to see good directors taking on these game to movie projects, I think lots of games have interesting storylines that could spawn great movies given the proper vision.  On the flip side I'd also like to see good directors taking up game projects and possibly ushering in a new era of truly interactive fiction.

To sum up:  I  hate Uwe Boll, I think he's going to kill an entire genre before it ever has time to really develop.  At the same time he gives me hope that I can one day fulfill my dream of directing films.  After all, if he can do it anyone can do it and probably do it better.

And thats my rant.

C.

Title: Re: Alone in the Dark--The Movie
Post by: DGMacphee on Thu 03/02/2005 14:48:46
That's the thing: I thought Alone In The Dark would have made a great movie IF (and a big IF) Boll had stuck to the original source. His whole Hollywood mentality (special effects, "name" stars) is what made the film fail (Granted, the same type of mentality turned that cinematic dungheap I, Robot into a box office hit, but keep in mind the film is still a piece of shit albeit a money-making piece of shit). But if he did away with the whole "I-need-special-effects-and-a-well-known-cast" and just stuck to unleashing his creativity (that is, if he has any), then AITD would have been better.

I'm not a huge fan of M. Night Shyamalan, but I reckon this is the sort of material that'd be right up his alley: a scary film where it's not what you see but what you don't see. Plus he'd stick to proper casting and give Carnby his big moustache back.
Title: Re: Alone in the Dark--The Movie
Post by: Eggie on Fri 04/02/2005 07:51:41
QuoteI'm genuniely curious as to how he's managed to get both the rights AND the funding for these gems and and where the logic to hand over a brand as well know as Alone in the Dark to a director who's work goes direct to video more often then most porn productions came from.  I understand that having the right firends in the entertainment industry can get you places, but these studios are ultimatly in business to make money, which flat out isn't happening with any project Uwe Boll is at the helm of.

I read on IMDB that quite alot of the funding for these films comes out of Mr.Bolls own pocket.
Title: Re: Alone in the Dark--The Movie
Post by: Bombadil on Fri 04/02/2005 08:58:13
I seems that the only thing that would be good on the AITD move will be the soundtrack [^^] though if the movie was [as it should be :(] like the game, that soundtrack would fit in there...
Title: Re: Alone in the Dark--The Movie
Post by: BerserkerTails on Fri 04/02/2005 17:08:00
I don't know. Personally, I'm not one for two disc soundtracks full of repeatitive metal. I mean, the soundtrack's probably longer than the movie!