Any easy web page editor?

danny* · Fri 30/05/2003 13:49:56

Hello,

i was wondering,....do you guys know any web editor that is REALY easy to use?

thanks!!

Danny*

Fuzzpilz · Fri 30/05/2003 14:37:10

Notepad.

Seriously, your best choice is just to learn HTML and CSS. Every editor, be it Dreamweaver or Composer or whatever, just gets in the way and confuses you.

juncmodule · Fri 30/05/2003 16:12:28

While I agree that learning it the right way is the way to do it...

I didn't.

I use Dreamweaver and I love it. You can do a lot with it visually. Although, I must admit, I have been forced to learn a fair amount of HTML regardless. It depends on what you want to do.

Simple flat pages without much "umph" == Dreamweaver

Dynamic pages with lots of features == Learn HTML + Dreamweaver

just my opinion, everyone has their own way.

later,
-junc

danny* · Fri 30/05/2003 16:40:57

thanks guys!

Sylpher · Sat 31/05/2003 01:32:56

I use 1st page...

http://www.evrsoft.com/

It is free...Easy if you know HTML (And still pretty nice if you don't) and it is free...

juncmodule · Sat 31/05/2003 02:06:17

Something is up with the publisher of that software Sylpher. I found it here though:

~~http://download.yohost.com/1stpage.htm~~

Scratch that, that is 1.0, try this:

http://www.masterpiecehosting.com/1stpage2.zip

And check out these forums:http://developers.evrsoft.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?s=a4cf08123390bf5c0c0f8fe5ed4c9b88&forumid=19

What the HELL!!!! There is a trojan in that there file!!
It is here: Program Files\Evrsoft\1st Page 2000\IScripts\Buttons\Six Buttons From Hell.izs

later,
-junc

Evil · Sat 31/05/2003 02:22:57

Geocities.com. To see an easy example, look at my page www.takeoff.to/harryspage , I made almost everything in photoshop and then added a transparent image over the top for a button. If you want to do this and need help, email me...

Sylpher · Sat 31/05/2003 02:57:52

Hm, I downloaded it quite awhile ago from the homepage and ran quite a few Virus scanners and online web scanners and never found anything. As well my computer is in tip top shape.

I would knock on wood or somethnig but I am too hungry to make a joke...

Femme Stab Mode >:D · Sat 31/05/2003 04:42:19

Dreamweaver is good but it doesn't support CSS. I like it because it's wysiwyg.

Sylpher · Sat 31/05/2003 04:54:41

I dislike dreamweaver because I like to code straight and going back and trying to edit some of the code dreamweaver produces...hell...no...

juncmodule · Sat 31/05/2003 06:14:55

Quotesome of the code dreamweaver produces

I've never understood this one? I hear it a lot, so you are not the only one that thinks this. Dreamweaver doesn't add any extra code...unless if you make it. At least I have NEVER had this problem.

Now, using Microsoft word to make a webpage...there's some extra crap!!

Quotebut it doesn't support CSS

If you mean in the editor, I agree, it should be there. Are you using MX? It does "support" it. Just not as well as I would like it to.

Dreamweaver can do a lot of annoying things and I understand why some people don't like it. Personally though, it has saved me immense amounts of time and effort. Hand coding some of the stuff I do would just be completely retarded and take ten times longer than it needed. I don't have that time to spare. (Because I need to be making long responses here

)

later,
-junc

EDIT: Oh yeah, that trojan is just a ad pop-up thingy. Ad-Aware will get it. Norton will as well.

Sylpher · Sun 01/06/2003 04:21:50

It just adds a lot of crap code not needed that you have to sift through if you want to edit the code by hand. I believe the 'crap' you are reffering to in Word is the code that word adds to doc files. You need to make a txt file before coding so it doesn't add the code...

Or just use notepad.

juncmodule · Sun 01/06/2003 06:31:04

Actually I was cracking on XML.

That's how word outputs web pages (if you click save as web page from word, try it, it's fun to see how HUGE three lines of text are).

In Dreamweaver when I click on new HTML document this is the code that it sets up for you:

Code: ags


<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
<html>
<head>
<title>Untitled Document</title>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">
</head>

<body>

</body>
</html>

I only see two lines that are not all that needed. I've just never understood the "crap code" argument. I mean, if a person knows HTML, why use the visual editor that much anyway? I just use it to throw together quick pages with images more than anything else. Besides, when someone is looking for really easy to use...I guess evil's suggestion beat both notepad and dreamweaver. Have you ever used GeoBuilder? It's....just insulting...and THAT inserts some junk code.

So, for easy to use I say Dreamweaver beats Notepad and handcoding in general, at least if your talking about just throwing something together. Oh, yeah, maybe Dreamweaver used to add junk code and they fixed that with MX...

Pesty · Sun 01/06/2003 07:14:24

This is the one I've been trying out. So far it seems totally rockin'. I have not been using it long enough to get proficient, but it's not hard to figure out what to do.

http://www.virtualmechanics.com/products/dwarf/

Behold! WebDwarf!

Sylpher · Sun 01/06/2003 07:21:54

I dislike dreamweaver driven pages when people build there entire site on it and then ask me to fix something in which I have to go through the code itself. Of course a new file isn't gonna have much but build a full on page with many frames, font sizes and style changes and Paragraph formatting and then try and edit the HTML mess that dreamweaver produces and it is a nightmare...

cpage · Sun 01/06/2003 09:15:08

while we are on the subject all I want is a program that I can quickly preview in so I dont have to save and check it then delete it if I dont like it

danny* · Sun 01/06/2003 09:33:46

thanks for sharing your knowledge, people!!!

Pestilence:i''ll try this one!!!
thank you!