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Title: Any Jazz music fans here?
Post by: auhsor on Sun 15/08/2004 15:43:46
Well I'm lthinking of getting into some Jazz music. I've always liked the style, but I guess I've not really gotten any of the music. I know there are different styles of the music, and I can't really remember what but I know some types I like better than others.

But hte thing is, I don't know where to start. Is there people here that could reccomend some good Jazz musicians? I'm also thinking of learning the Saxophone. I like the instrument, and yeah I fugure if I do learn that, I would get into some jazz.

So yeah, suggestions anyone?
Title: Re: Any Jazz music fans here?
Post by: BerserkerTails on Sun 15/08/2004 17:39:29
Yeah, go Jazz! As an avid Jazz listener, and a professional Jazz musician (I get paid for playing Jazz gigs, I think that qualifies me), you've come to the right place, hehehe.

You're thinking of taking up Saxophone? Okay, you need to find some recordings by a man named John Coltrane. His work is amazing. Also check out Charlie Parker.

You're right about different styles of Jazz. There's tons, including:

Bop
Blues
Post-Bop
Swing
Fusion

It's all good, in my opinion, and is perfect music to relax to. I suggest, to start you off, you pick up "Kind of Blue" by Miles Davis. That album is hailed as one of the best Jazz albums of all time, and I have to agree. In fact, my Jazz Quartet, The Freeloaders, got our name from a song on that album.
Title: Re: Any Jazz music fans here?
Post by: Czar on Sun 15/08/2004 20:13:44
Well, as 'Tails said you should check out Coltrane, but if you plan on playing jazz you should definetly listen to all sorts of instruments played by different beople.
Let's say T. Monk, Evans, Brubeck, Ellington, Armstrong, Stan Getz and even Benny Goodman with some swing; to name a few.

First find a teacher and then go in other directions if you want.

But I really dont know much, i'm more of a casual jazz listener .
Hope you have luck in what you want.

C.
Title: Re: Any Jazz music fans here?
Post by: Blackthorne on Sun 15/08/2004 20:16:04
Quote from: auhsor on Sun 15/08/2004 15:43:46

So yeah, suggestions anyone?

Check out "Blue Train" by John Coltrane

Or anything by Charlie Parker.  Any record with Eric Dolphy as well.

In later Jazz, start with Miles Davis, Bitches Brew.  Then "On The Corner", "Agharta" and "Live:Evil" all by Miles Davis. 

My personal favorite: Grant Green, "Live At Lighthouse"

Look up the song "Windjammer"  It's a great jazz tune.

Bt
Title: Re: Any Jazz music fans here?
Post by: Mats Berglinn on Sun 15/08/2004 20:17:06
I like jazz a lot even if my music-taste is rather mixed rather than stuck on a single type of music.

There is one type of Jazz that BersekerTails forgot to mention and that's Bebop, which is a jazz music from the 30's (I think at least, I may have forgotten) and that kind is in the adventure game Grim Fandango. If you haven't played it I suggest you do because not only the game, story, characters and so on are great but the Bebop music is so great and it really made me like Bebop jazz.
Title: Re: Any Jazz music fans here?
Post by: Gregjazz on Sun 15/08/2004 20:26:01
From a musical point of view, Jazz isn't exactly a genre of music, it's more of an approach to music.

Since you've made the decision to "get into Jazz music", you have many many subgenres of Jazz to listen to, as stated by BerserkerTrails.
Title: Re: Any Jazz music fans here?
Post by: Czar on Sun 15/08/2004 20:30:36
Actually, Mats, Grim Fandango is most of it swing.

And you can also put in BeserkerTails' list ragtime.
Title: Re: Any Jazz music fans here?
Post by: prowler on Sun 15/08/2004 20:50:48
how about more guitar-oriented jazz? do you ppl have any suggestions?
Title: Re: Any Jazz music fans here?
Post by: BerserkerTails on Sun 15/08/2004 21:08:36
My list was just an example... Like I said, there's TONS of  styles of Jazz music, the biggies (In chronological order, I do believe) are listed below.

Ragtime, Dixieland, Swing, Bop, Bebop, Cool, Hard Bop, Post Bop, Fusion, Free

Correct me if I'm wrong, it's been a while since my Jazz Theory class...
Title: Re: Any Jazz music fans here?
Post by: Czar on Sun 15/08/2004 21:30:41
Ofcourse, I didn't even consider your list as full.
;)
Title: Re: Any Jazz music fans here?
Post by: Matt Brown on Sun 15/08/2004 22:02:09
I love Jazz. Im kinda a semi-pro jazz muscian too, as my jazz band gets paid to do gigs every now and again.
I recomend

Coltrane-Blue Trane kicks arse
Davis
Herbie Handcock
Weather Report
Big Bad Voodoo Daddy-for a more modern Flavor

of Jazz's many flavors, I think I like retro swing and fusion the best
Title: Re: Any Jazz music fans here?
Post by: Ben on Sun 15/08/2004 22:37:35
Quote from: prowler on Sun 15/08/2004 20:50:48
how about more guitar-oriented jazz? do you people have any suggestions?

Django
Title: Re: Any Jazz music fans here?
Post by: Haddas on Sun 15/08/2004 22:45:19
I don't really know any Jazz musicians, even though I love jazz. I listen to Blues more, and I like it a little better. And yes, Coltrane rocks your box.
Title: Re: Any Jazz music fans here?
Post by: Blackthorne on Sun 15/08/2004 22:47:12
Quote from: prowler on Sun 15/08/2004 20:50:48
how about more guitar-oriented jazz? do you people have any suggestions?

Like I said, Grant Green.  King of Funk Guitar.

Also, John McLaughlin, Paco DeLucia, Al DiMeola.  Check them out.

Django Reinhardt, french gypsy guitarist.

And for a fun Jazz guitar film, see "Sweet and Lowdown".

Bt
Title: Re: Any Jazz music fans here?
Post by: auhsor on Mon 16/08/2004 01:16:54
Thanks everyone. I'll be sure to check out your suggestions. I really like the music in Grim Ffandango. Its like alot of swing stuff, which is cool. I downloaded the soundtrack to it a while ago, and it's cool.
Title: Re: Any Jazz music fans here?
Post by: on Mon 16/08/2004 02:10:01
Check out the jazz crusaders too. Their Album, "royal jam", feature BB king, a full orchestra, and more funk and jazz then you can shake a stick at

/me jams to street life one more time
Title: Re: Any Jazz music fans here?
Post by: Gregjazz on Mon 16/08/2004 03:31:30
Route 44 and Big Phat Band are two good modern bigbands that made a great CD together. Check it out!

These are other great artists to check out:

- Brad Mehldau
- Dave Brubeck
- Michael Brecker (for more fusion stuff)
- Yaya3
- Yellowjackets
- Chick Corea
- Keith Jarrett
Title: Re: Any Jazz music fans here?
Post by: auhsor on Mon 16/08/2004 03:48:07
Wow lots of suggestions. It'll take me a while to check out all these people, but I will for sure. Thanks.
Title: Re: Any Jazz music fans here?
Post by: Kinoko on Mon 16/08/2004 06:00:55
Oooooh, I love swing music! I can't say I'm an overall jazz fan because modern jazz tends to urk me (at least what's referred to as jazz), but if I could recommend two people you need to listen to above anyone, it's...

Duke Ellington and Benny Goodman. If Benny Goodman were alive today, I'd be his wife, or failing that, his mistress. I'd be in there -somewhere-, anyway. Make sure you get a cd of his with Opus one and two on it.
Title: Re: Any Jazz music fans here?
Post by: rtf on Mon 16/08/2004 06:14:16
I love swing, I love acid, and I love latin jazz.  I love all jazz.


I just finished a 3-week Jazz course at the local college.  It was a ton of fun.  We had theory, appreciation, recording and electronics, big band, small combos, all sorts of stuff. 

But the best part was this one course, for just the guitarists.  It was a Jazz guitar improvisation course.  I learned so much, that I had to forget stuff to make room for the new knowledge.

Jazz is awesome.
Title: Re: Any Jazz music fans here?
Post by: Flippy_D on Mon 16/08/2004 13:43:49
Jools Holland is good. Get Small World Big Band.

Also, Miles Davis - So What.

Frank Sinatra too. Come fly with me, and Fly me to the moon are good 'uns.
Title: Re: Any Jazz music fans here?
Post by: PaulSC on Mon 16/08/2004 14:17:16
I really love certain kinds of jazz, but I'm such an ignorent pleb when it comes to the genre that I just end up stumbling about from random artist to random artist, not knowing where I should be looking.

I hate to say it, given the guy's one of the great sacred cows of music, but I really don't enjoy Miles Davis much at all. I've heard two of his best loved albums (Bitches Brew and... Kind Of Blue, I think it was) but for the most part I find them pretty dull and frankly quite ugly a lot of the time. Even worse: I actually find Davis's playing one of the least appealing aspects of his music - the backing bands (and especially guitarist John Mclaughlin) are often doing some cool stuff, but he insists on messing everything up with his infernal tootling.

Chick Corea seems much closer to what I'm looking for - mellow, groovy and melodic. The one of his I heard sounded a little like Can's Future Days album, and if there's one thing on this earth I love it's Can's Future Days album.

Damnit, I hate being a jazz pleb.
Title: Re: Any Jazz music fans here?
Post by: BerserkerTails on Mon 16/08/2004 19:38:41
QuoteAlso, Miles Davis - So What.

On the Kind of Blue album, which I already reccomended, hehe.

If you can find it (It's extremeley rare), get a copy of Frank Sinatra - Live at the Sands. That album is extremely good. I mean, Frank Sinatra singing his best songs, with the Count Basie Orchestra backing him. We played about half that album not for note in our Jazz Band last year at school.