I just installed Linux redhat 9.0, and i'm pretty new to linux... because of all the damn viruses in windows and also just windows... you know what I mean. I was wondering if any more people are using linux here?
i have a linux box
You shoud've gotten a Mac.
i got an imac too
Windows suits me pretty well. Linux is for network administration and boring things, and doesn't really interest me. Macs, on the other hand, have some great music and video capabilities that I've heard of, but Windows is mainstream and popular, and the only realistic choice if you want to have all your favorite games and applications readily available. And you won't get viruses if you don't blindly open applications and exes off of Kazaa. :D
I have redhat 8 installed on a tiny little hard drive from an older computer I had, so I use it ocassionally but not for an useful purpose other than messing with it. I did make the linux runtime of the Granny Zombiekiller (http://netmonkey.cellosoft.com/granny/) teaser demo, tho, with it.
I installed Linux once, played with it for a few days, then uninstalled it when I realised that I'd never use it for anything useful.
I have a Mac, because OSX is rock solid (designed by linux) and is the ultimate POWER!
Windows are fine if you can put up with crashes, but they have about 300 times the apps and games mac have. :(
I still know very little about Linux- maybe I should check out some screenshots of it in operation. Doesn't it have even less apps and games than a Mac? ???
P.S.- Tux is such a cool mascot- come on! Mac has a fruit!
i have an old version somewhere but am planning to buy the new one.
I networked my house and I have a linux box but its only good for a server.
My Opinions on the IMAC
Spoiler
The IMAC is a piece of crap that should be sent straight to hell and with it the designer
Windows XP has pretty nice virus protection now and it has more features... Like Trapezoid says
QuoteIf you don't open things blindly then there won't be a problem
Sooooo, go to [shadow= green,glow width, 1 character wide] Microsoft, Not the IMAC [/shadow]
bigcitynerd: why do you think that about the imac? do you even know who the creator is?
Custard,
Yes, for your info. I do know who the designer of the IMAC is...but I don't want to take away from your learning experience, soooooo take a guess...
Spoiler
Jonathan Ives
No, FYI I didn't go look it up ;D
Just kidding, the reason I don't like IMACs is just because in my Mom's school all there are are Apple 2+ and I grew up with crap...Plus I think Windows has better benefits to offer
With the Exception Of Music
Do you consider crashing a better benefit, bigcitynerd?
Hey,
It beats having two programs to use and a shitty, ineficient design. PLUS Eventually, I bet in Windows 2006, they're going to finally get it right.
Besides, I haven't seen Apple come out with any form of a mobile device OS and if you tried Windows Mobile 2003 you'd know why I like Windows better than the IMAC.
And, I consider it crashing my bonding time with MS-DOS and if you have such a big problem with it then don't get it. :D I mean Windows isn't right for some people (I didn't mean that a a derogatory remark to you I meant some people may prefer the IMAC OS)
Quote from: bigcitynerd on Tue 26/08/2003 18:58:43Eventually, I bet in Windows 2006, they're going to finally get it right.
They already did, with Windows 2000.
No they didn't, Windows 2000 didn't crash but it didn't have the user benefits that XP has... hmmm something should be done.
You're wrong.
i may dislike windows a lot, but windows 2000 was the best one. every computer at my work uses windows 2000.
I dont see what the problem is about the imac though. its great for artwork and such. I wouldnt run a network off of an imac, but I dont see anything wrong with those machines
plus, I still think they look pretty cool
If you're going to get a mac, spend the money and get a Power Book and an external firewire hard drive. They've got amazing capabilities, especially with OSX, and they're amazingly good with multimedia. OSX has very innovative interfaces, like the "dock". My favorite thing about macs, though, is the way all the programs talk to each other. On Windows, getting programs to see each other and work together is as impossible as actually finishing an AGS game (possible, but not probable), but on macs, they're dynamically designed to do exactly that. And Quicktime...don't get me started about the wonders of that program.
But still, apart from all that, I'm a Windows man, definately.
-DD
I will aggree that the IMAC is good for art work and looks cool but it is just not as efficient as many computers.
WIndows 2000 is great for networking but for inexperienced computer users XP has the best advantage.
The best Apple are the laptops as Dinghy posted...
I still say XP is the best and not to be rude but youropinion on 2000 may be flaud... have any of you tried Server 2k3?
Come On!!!- Aplle's Titanium powerbook??? :o
Apple's got the design thing in the bag.
Compared to XP, 2000 is anything but flawed. And yes, I have tried Windows 2003 Server, I was on Microsoft's beta list, so I was testing it earlier on this year. Seems rock solid, apart from the lack of support for games.
I have to say, 2000 is a great operating system. I have only ever had ONE virus in the several years I've been running it, and that was the recent blast virus. I didn't even notice I HAD it for a while though, since 2000 seemed to handle it pretty well. Trap is completely right. If you don't download crap you don't need, your chances of your PC getting infected is reduced to almost 0. I think it's pretty damned ridiculous that people are surprised they get viruses when opening attachments from people they don't know or downloading files from some peer to peer network. Would you do the equivalent of that in real life? You do it at your own risk.
In conclusion, MACS ARE TEH SUCK ANSD WINDOSW 2000 IS TEH AWESMOE!!!111one
And I suppose I should at least tangentially relate this to the original post: I don't use Linux and never have. I've been meaning to give it a shot for a while just for the hell of it, but I'll be damned if I can't actually think of a reason why I'd need to.
I never like MAC or Windoze.
I'll only say:
DOS RULEZ!1!
By DOS I don't mean M$DOS or PCDOS or whatever, I mean APPLESOFT DOS for teh 4LL MY M1GHTY TEH B35TT3R35T 4PPL3 ][ C0MPUT3R5!1!1!1!
DOS? You gotta be kidding me! That is so outdated... and I still say I PERSONALLY[/i][/u] like windows XP anyway I just like XP beacause it works best for my laptop... though it is very slow. And if you don't like it don't waste computer memory on it go to 2000.
*cough* Rather opinionated today, aren't we people? Everybody knows that different people have different preferences. But, you really should stop making your eyes leak over dispersed liquid bovine offspring feeder. In other words, lets bite the binary code and say:
IF YOU KEEP ARGUING OVER THE OPERATING SYSTEMS, MAKE YOUR OWN! :P
Or just stop bickering.
Oh, and I use Win98SE, MSDOS6.22, and Linux Redhat 9 :P So THERE! Beat that! Hehehe.
Well... to also reply to the thread I started... I like Dos also alot... but i dont know appledos... When I started out with the PC, I had this cute Norton Commander (you know the blue screen) ... and I played all kinda games like arcade volleyball, princeofpersia, and commanderkeen4 A year later, I also bought fate of atlantis, that indiana jones game... awww... the old times! No internet... no viruses... no shit... only the real deal 256color!! ;) Only floppys and a game larger than 2mb was very big game! Ohw how I loved Fifa96... though that was a little time later ;) "Keep is cool!".. you know thats the only computergame I ever played against my dad! ;)
I used to run a redhat and win 2000 in a dual boot machine. I ended up spending more time on Win side because I need graphics programs and I dislike Gimp. Had Jasc converted PSP on Linux, I probably would have ended up on the Linux side.
As for Win stability, worms and viruses... Win 2000, servicepacked and patched properly, with an AV software and a firewall, is stabile OS. I've never had a single virus or a worm. I boot my computer once a week - once a month (after isntalling something that needs it) and I rarely face any kind of freezes or lockups. I probably like XP just as much after a year or two when it gets patched to a level I'm comfortable with.
People always say stuff like 'Mac is good for artwork'. Explain.
I can see the advantages for video editing, with the firewire and all, but other than that, I see absolutely no reason to own a mac.
And yes, I use one. I work on one. In fact, I spend more time on the Mac than on the Win box.
They crash just as much as Windows (OSX is supposedly better, but, uh, it'd be nice if I wasn't forced to upgrade all of my software just to run it).
The cost alone of a Mac makes it completely worthless in my opinion.
So someone please explain to me where all of that money makes it a good investment.
'Good for artwork'. Please. OS9 doesn't even have any memory management whatsoever. You have to manually tell each program how much memory to use. Once that's used up, good luck running anything else.
Imacs are good for the internet, grandma, and people who want something pretty to show off to friends. Oh, and of course all those 'designers' who barely know how to turn the damn thing on.
Actually, scratch the internet. Half of the webpages I visit don't open properly in IE for mac.
As for Linux. Had it on for a week. Realised I would never use it since it was way more complicated than it needed to be.
Hopefully that'll change.
rode, I think thats because MS stopped developing IE for macs...said they needed to use a different browser. prehaps thats why your webpages dont work?
AGA,
The reason why 2k3 doesn't support games is because it was made for networking Windows Server Edition 2003
Macs are good for music, and video editing. Music, because of ProTools. Anyone heard of it? ProTools is the definitive professional music editing, layering, and mastering tool that everyone in the buisness uses. And to use it, it's on the mac, because it works better on it. Windows is too cluttery for it. They've got a windows version, but it's not nearly as good.
But I like Windows better anyway.
-G
bigcitynerd: so was Windows 2000, it's a business-oriented O/S that has no reason to support games, but it does perfectly. As is XP Professional...
Pah!
Amateurs!
BeOS is the real king!
Ok, so it's a dead OS that isn't being developed anymore. But it just sounds cooool, ok? ;)
Actually, it's a pretty stable OS which beats Windows and Linux anyday. It's also MAC-compatible. Only problem? There's no darn software. *grin*
You should all stop talking and use Contiki (http://www.dunkels.com/adam/contiki/).
/me boots up OS/2
AGA: Windows 2000 was home,professional, and server. I'm running 200 server edition on a server downstairs and it is not working any games.
If you take a look at the facts then XP was made for idiots and YES 2000 was not. Buuuuuuuttttt, 2000 server edition does not run games!
Yes, but the fact remains that you shouldn't really expect to be able to, it's for running servers after all, not for home users...
Yes, but Professional should because it was made for the office and what does everyone do at the office? :D anyway, to support office programs not just word and crap but server edition doesn't run games.
Redhat 9 was too slow for me, a nightmare. Mandrake 9.1 just made me want to shoot it. I'm using Slackware now.
I 'WAS' going to give you a link to a most fabulous forum run by a guy I know...but apparently he's too busy with thebroken.org so he shut em down. Sorry :(
If I find an equally good link for 'nix stuff I'll pass it along.