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Title: are you going to jump on the 20 of july?
Post by: skyfire2 on Wed 15/03/2006 20:28:34
scientists have actually figured a way to stop global warming. if everyone jumps at the same time the earth will be knocked out of orbit causing a cooler climate. i've already registered and i can't wait for chaos to come over all of us.

world jump day (http://www.worldjumpday.org/)

Title: Re: are you going to jump on the 20 of july?
Post by: DoorKnobHandle on Wed 15/03/2006 20:31:24
This "joke" has already been found and pointed out here by someone a few months ago. I hope I don't need to add that real scientists have proven that this won't work, right?
Title: Re: are you going to jump on the 20 of july?
Post by: skyfire2 on Wed 15/03/2006 20:36:31
Quote from: dkh on Wed 15/03/2006 20:31:24
This "joke" has already been found and pointed out here by someone a few months ago. I hope I don't need to add that real scientists have proven that this won't work, right?

i haven't seen one solid demonstration that disproves this idea.
Title: Re: are you going to jump on the 20 of july?
Post by: Haddas on Wed 15/03/2006 20:37:11
That seems logical. Like pushing a door from both sides.

The earth weighs approximately 5,972,000,000,000,000,000,000 Metric tons. that's around six billion trillion tons.. The population of earth barely weighs at ONE Trillion. I'm sceptical.

If you can make a fly pull a car, then I might believe this.
Title: Re: are you going to jump on the 20 of july?
Post by: Scummbuddy on Wed 15/03/2006 20:37:44
well, if everyone around the world jumps at the exact moment, then everyones force would cancel out their opposite force from the other side.
Title: Re: are you going to jump on the 20 of july?
Post by: Ubel on Wed 15/03/2006 21:23:59
The Earth will just explode due the pressure of everyone jumping at the same time. It has nothing to do with stopping the global warming.
Title: Re: are you going to jump on the 20 of july?
Post by: ManicMatt on Wed 15/03/2006 21:25:13
If the earth explodes, then we won't have global warming! So lets do it!
Title: Re: are you going to jump on the 20 of july?
Post by: Mr Flibble on Wed 15/03/2006 21:26:26
I heard that if you write "jump" backwards, it spells "9/11".
Title: Re: are you going to jump on the 20 of july?
Post by: Radiant on Wed 15/03/2006 21:40:35
I promise that I will singlehandedly (well, singlefootedly) jump five seconds later, thus ruining the whole effort for all of you! Muahahahah!
Title: Re: are you going to jump on the 20 of july?
Post by: ManicMatt on Wed 15/03/2006 21:46:59
Then I shall endeavour to put so much weight on that I'm twice the size when I jump, thus counterbalancing your efforts! (IF I can muster up jumping in the first place being so heavy, that is)
Title: Re: are you going to jump on the 20 of july?
Post by: Grapefruitologist on Wed 15/03/2006 21:49:51
Acctually, global warming might not even exist in the first place. And besides, I've heard that if the Earth goes off orbit by just one inch, it would fly off into outer space, never to be seen again...
Quote"The earth weighs approximately 5,972,000,000,000,000,000,000 Metric tons. that's around six billion trillion tons.. The population of earth barely weighs at ONE Trillion. I'm sceptical."
Maybe when the world gets overpopulated we can! Heheh (Acctually, to be overpopulated, every female in the world would have to have atleast two children. That's what I've heard.)
I'm guessing whoever thought of this idea is one of those crazy people who are constantly thinking up UFO and conspiracy ideas and saying that the miracles in the bible were caused by some alien force, conspiring against the world to do a "religion experiment"...
Or just a prankster who wants to have fun.

Also, from the picture on the website of the new orbit, we would acctually be CLOSER to the sun, as it's a wider orbit, not farther away. It wouldn't do a thing for global warming, just make it worse.

UPDATE: This is what it says when I looked "Jump Day" up, just to prove it:
QuoteWorld Jump Day
Information on a plan to alter Earth's orbit by multiple people jumping. [Contains fictitious information]

http://www.venehammerschlag.com/worldjumpday/

Goes to the same website as you posted.

EDIT: WIKIPEDIA ARTICLE! Read it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Jump_Day
Title: Re: are you going to jump on the 20 of july?
Post by: BOYD1981 on Wed 15/03/2006 22:07:00
this has already been done in an episode of Dangermouse called "The Intergalactic 147", some aliens were playing a game of snooker with planets and Earth was the blue ball. DM arranged for everyone on Earth to jump at the same time so that the cueball (the moon) would miss.
Title: Re: are you going to jump on the 20 of july?
Post by: biothlebop on Wed 15/03/2006 22:12:00
Quote from: Grapefruitologist on Wed 15/03/2006 21:49:51
And besides, I've heard that if the Earth goes off orbit by just one inch, it would fly off into outer space, never to be seen again...
I don't believe that to be true, it seems highly unlikely that Earth would have an exact orbit defined around the Sun, example: From what I read somewhere, the distance to the moon changes about 1 m every 100 years or something. I guess the orbit is in a sine-type movement, constantly changing a little back and forth, but unless drastic things happen we are bound to our galaxy.
Title: Re: are you going to jump on the 20 of july?
Post by: Grapefruitologist on Wed 15/03/2006 22:16:37
Well, think about it. If it goes off orbit, it would eventually and very gradually go off until it just detached and started floating off. But I still don't know.
Title: Re: are you going to jump on the 20 of july?
Post by: Domino on Wed 15/03/2006 22:22:43
If that ever happened, it would be one hell of a ride.  :)
Title: Re: are you going to jump on the 20 of july?
Post by: Radiant on Wed 15/03/2006 22:23:40
Entropy dictates that the Earth will eventually "fall" from orbit into the heaviest gravitational body nearby (i.e. the sun). The key word is "eventually", which in this case is measured in some billions of years.

Orbits fluctuate. Around any celestial body, you can set up an orbit at any point in a large interval of average heights, but the velocity has to match up with the gravitational pull on that height (hence, geostationary satellites must all hang at the same height).
Title: Re: are you going to jump on the 20 of july?
Post by: biothlebop on Wed 15/03/2006 22:43:57
As Radiant said, it is unlikely that anything will stay in orbit forever, the main thing was the one inch you said, which to me seemed trivially small. I once had to work with a program calculating parths for particles as they pass each other and in the case of more than 2 objects, it gets really complex quick (from parables to something that looks like random scribbling). Not only the sun's  gravitational pull affects the earths path in space so we might yet see some enormous planet that sweeps past us and pulls us off into space rather than the sun.
Here's the moon thing:
http://www.mikekemble.com/space/discovery2.html
This is pulled a little out of context, but I beleve that scale to be a little closer than the inch mentioned to make a difference.
"Since the Earth already travels around the Sun in an ellipse, its distance from the Sun varies by 5 million kilometers over the course of a year. A 40 km increase in average distance would not be noticeable."
Title: Re: are you going to jump on the 20 of july?
Post by: Kweepa on Wed 15/03/2006 23:27:48
The only way this could work would be if everyone got on the day-side of the earth, jumped, and DIDN'T LAND.
Once you land again, the steady state of the planet goes back to the way it was before you jumped, ergo no change in orbit.
Title: Re: are you going to jump on the 20 of july?
Post by: magintz on Wed 15/03/2006 23:42:09
global warming is a made up thing like the boogie man or michael jackson used to scare kids into doings as they are told. It all stems back to the prehistoric times coming from the latin word globalis - meaing false and warmingulos - meaing story.

The following diagram explains this:
(http://www.nutritiondata.com/facts-01-02s050f.png)
Title: Re: are you going to jump on the 20 of july?
Post by: SinSin on Thu 16/03/2006 00:10:11
i think that piling on loads of weight would probably make the problem worse you know all that methane hmm and think of the stink

One good way of stopping global warming is for everyone to get together on the 20th of july and go on one huuuuugggggeeee  cow tipping Spree therefore eliminating alot of methane
Its logical it just might work

Did you know that a cow produces more methane in a day than what a Landrover 4*4 does in a year FACT
Title: Re: are you going to jump on the 20 of july?
Post by: Kweepa on Thu 16/03/2006 00:31:26
Well, given that methane isn't a significant product of burning gasoline, and can actually be burned to power automobiles, that's none too surprising.
It's akin to saying that a chihuahua produces more dog piss in a day than a 747 does in a year.
Title: Re: are you going to jump on the 20 of july?
Post by: LimpingFish on Thu 16/03/2006 00:59:24



LimpingFish patents his Fart Fuelled Car
Title: Re: are you going to jump on the 20 of july?
Post by: Domino on Thu 16/03/2006 02:00:57
Quote from: LimpingFish on Thu 16/03/2006 00:59:24



LimpingFish patents his Fart Fuelled Car


Then the people i work with would give me unlimited mileage. I swear everyone i work with farts about every 10 minutes. Now all i would need is to capture their gas somehow.
Title: Re: are you going to jump on the 20 of july?
Post by: Squinky on Thu 16/03/2006 02:42:28
When I saw this thread I thought of 21 Jump Street....


Now I will go away.
Title: Re: are you going to jump on the 20 of july?
Post by: Grapefruitologist on Thu 16/03/2006 04:35:42
The moon is leaving the Earth? Dang! And I thought they made such a great couple!

Picture I drew:
(http://xs72.xs.to/pics/06114/world10.png)

A bit off-topic, but go to http://www.spore.com/
Spore is a game that is coming out by the same person who made the Sims. It's going to be, and already is, a very popular game, where you started as an amoeba, that then evolves into a land creatures, and mates with other land creatures, making a civilization of creatures, which then build a spaceship and populate other planets... The trailer and demonstration alone are very cool.
What I find interesting about these so-called "evolution" games, is that even though they are supposed to be evolution games, the game itself (and computer it is run on) is created.
Another random but interesting question, but if somebody told you this game was made by a lightning bolt striking a garbage can, would you believe them?
Title: Re: are you going to jump on the 20 of july?
Post by: Scummbuddy on Thu 16/03/2006 04:50:43
Quote from: Grapefruitologist on Thu 16/03/2006 04:35:42
Another random but interesting question, but if somebody told you this game was made by a lightning bolt striking a garbage can, would you believe them?

Not to get into any bit of a discussion of evolution, just so you know what you posted is not at all what evolutionary followers believe. I hadn't heard of your "example" but you may hear of either 'coming across a pocketwatch in a field', or 'a hurricane sweeping into a junk yard and assembles a 747'.

Let's just take the hurricane in a junk yard.  What evolution would say is that, perhaps the hurricanes come along and one happens to eventually put a tire onto a tire-arm. Then another one eventually comes and puts something else together, and so on.

If you want to continue this talk, private message me.
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And no I won't be jumping because thats ludicrous. Instead of coming up with silly ideas, although simple, let's actually work on solving crisises around the world.

And yes, we are losing our moon, by just a little bit every year.
Title: Re: are you going to jump on the 20 of july?
Post by: Grapefruitologist on Thu 16/03/2006 04:55:41
QuoteNot to get into any bit of a discussion of evolution, just so you know what you posted is not at all what evolutionary followers believe. I hadn't heard of your "example" but you may hear of either 'coming across a pocketwatch in a field', or 'a hurricane sweeping into a junk yard and assembles a 747'.

Let's just take the hurricane in a junk yard.  What evolution would say is that, perhaps the hurricanes come along and one happens to eventually put a tire onto a tire-arm. Then another one eventually comes and puts something else together, and so on.

Eh?
What DID I post?
Title: Re: are you going to jump on the 20 of july?
Post by: Tuomas on Thu 16/03/2006 11:47:56
Quote from: biothlebop on Wed 15/03/2006 22:43:57
http://www.mikekemble.com/space/discovery2.html

Sorry to tell you, but this is just bullshit. The moon isn't going nowhere, in fact, it's getting closer all the time. And I wouldn't be trusting any shitty web pages with a man starting "I am not a scientist". And I for some reason started counting these numbers, and the gravitation between sun and moon isn't enough to move the moon away from earth, as long as the earth has gravitation too.
Title: Re: are you going to jump on the 20 of july?
Post by: Radiant on Thu 16/03/2006 12:15:21
Quote from: Scummbuddy on Thu 16/03/2006 04:50:43
Not to get into any bit of a discussion of evolution, just so you know what you posted is not at all what evolutionary followers believe. I hadn't heard of your "example" but you may hear of either 'coming across a pocketwatch in a field', or 'a hurricane sweeping into a junk yard and assembles a 747'.

I've always hated that junkyard example since it's an exceedingly poor metaphor. The watch in the field is a lot better, actually. The point that many contra-evolutionists fail to grasp is that any chance that is ludicrously small yet non-zero will crop up given enough attempts. Nobody rolls ten sixes in a row at their first attempt, but if you keep rolling several thousands of times, you will get ten in a row. Finding the watch in the field will eventually happen if you keep looking for long enough, or hire more people.
Title: Re: are you going to jump on the 20 of july?
Post by: Tom S. Fox on Thu 16/03/2006 15:16:07
Quote from: Domino on Thu 16/03/2006 02:00:57
I swear everyone i work with farts about every 10 minutes.
Where do you work?
In the jury of a chilli contest?

However, I once saw on TV that, if all chinese would jump at the same time, it would cause a minor earthquake.
So, if all people on the world would jump at the same time, may god help us!
Title: Re: are you going to jump on the 20 of july?
Post by: MrColossal on Thu 16/03/2006 15:19:38
Quote from: Radiant on Thu 16/03/2006 12:15:21
Finding the watch in the field will eventually happen if you keep looking for long enough, or hire more people.

Apparently, you could find that watch a lot faster if you just prayed to St. Jude, ya know.
Title: Re: are you going to jump on the 20 of july?
Post by: Radiant on Thu 16/03/2006 15:21:46
Quote from: MrColossal on Thu 16/03/2006 15:19:38
Apparently, you could find that watch a lot faster if you just prayed to St. Jude, ya know.

Patron saint of lost watches, no?
Title: Re: are you going to jump on the 20 of july?
Post by: TerranRich on Thu 16/03/2006 15:32:47
I think many people who claim global warming isn't real are just trying to convince themselves that pollution isn't a problem and that everything is going to be okay.

Well it's NOT! We're all gonna DIE!!!