Well this looks exciting, and the date is near:
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The iconic monsters from two of the scariest film franchisis ever, Battle each other on Earth for the first time on film. The discovery of ancient pyramid buiried in Antarctica sends a team of scientists and adventurers (no Guybrush) to the frozen continent. There, they make an even more terrifying discovery ; two alien races engadged in the ultimate battle.
No matter who wins, we lose.
yes its the Aliens vs Predator movie and it look mighty fine. Check out the official site at
www.avp-movie.com
who do you think will win? Post your comments here.
I think it has all the potential of being the worst film ever made.
nice comment... care to tell us why?
If they make it in a true 1980s way, with lots of gore and no real story, then I'm gonna love it!
I am also predicting an almighty screw up, i hope i am proved wrong though :)
This is going to suck like Freddy Vs Jason. It won't be awesome, like Rocky Vs Mr T.
Quotenice comment... care to tell us why?
Because it's being directed and written by Paul Anderson, who is a very, very poor director and writer.
I went through a few emotions when I saw this preview at the cinema a week ago. I ended up at 'uncertainty'. I mean, I -love- Aliens, and I truly would love to see them being scary little bastards of monsters once more, kicking the predators asses I might add ^_-
... but like a few people have said, this is very likely to suck. If you've seen the preview, it seems to be heavily based on the humans, who don't seem to die automatically upon entering the pyramid - which is just wrong. If they die quickly in a lot of blood this could be remedied, but knowing movies these days, this probably won't happen. I bet you anything at least one of them survives and finds SOME way to save the world from them - URGGGGGGG! The reason it worked with the original Alien movies (meaning 1 & 2 mainly) was that they created the perfect human character to work with them, and she met with tragedy OFTEN. This time, it just looks like a team of 'spunky' guys and gals who'll be totally freaked out by their situation, the unpopular ones will die quickly and the left overs will somehow manage to find various safe spots and probably a big ancient button that blows the whole place up or something.
If all this DOESN'T happen, and it really is a movie all about aliens being scary and predators being... reggae, it could be good.
I love the concept of these X VS X things - they're like something a bunch of 13 year old nerds would think up, and that's a beautiful thing. This one could make for the greatest B-Movie of all time. Plus, it's got Lance Henrikson in it, and you can't beat a bit of Lance Henrikson action in an Alien film.
But... writer/director Paul Andrerson does NOT have a reputation as a talented guy, and the US PG-13 rating suggests there wont be much gore. For a film like this, having little gore seems to be missing the point a little.
It could still be good fun, though. And if it's a hit, maybe that Ridley Scott/James Cameron Alien 5 collaboration might have a better shot of happening.
I reckon they should bring back Highlander and have him fight Shaft.
Yes, another humble attempt by Hollywood to bring life back into soldout characters.
The way I see it is like every other monster vs. They will fight eachother and kill some of the heros, most likely the black one and bitchy teen. But in the end, the main characters will take revenge on them both and somehow manage to escape certain death from an exploding building, suposidly killing the monsters. But in the end we will see one of their hands move or an eye open, only to line itself up for another shitty movie that you will still watch even after you bitch about how bad the first one was.
There, I saved you $6.50, and taught you how to write the perfect monster vs. movie.
But what if they band together, and realize they could probably get more accomplished together as a team? And at the end, they are walking into the sunset holding hands after stomping the human race into the dirt? I will just wait for it on Pay-Per-View next year and watch it for $2...get my money's worth.
When Alien met Predator, Awww. that's cute... (Said in a very non-homosexual manner)
I was really looking forward to carnage! I want it to be much like that movie where they go to space and fight those giant bugs, Now THAT was a gory movie!
Here it is again, another example of people bashing a movie before it's released.
I don't even want to touch this arguement.. I just know I'm gonna go see it without any high or low expectations. It's just a damn movie.
I'm hoping they keep it in the spirit of Aliens (and not Predator) because the aliens shouldn't be around during the time of the first two predator movies.Ã, So I'm hoping they stick with the Aliens time line.
My fear is that they're going to throw a bunch of shitty hip-hop in there to appeal to the brainless masses and make it so ghetto it'll scarcely relate to the other movies in their series.Ã, But hopefully it'll be good hip-hop like Geraldo and Vanilla Ice.
They rated it PG-13 which basically kills it for me in the first place.
Now I must say, I have such low expectations that I might (MIGHT) be suprised by it.Ã, Usually when I go in anticipating something is good I get disappointed when it blows chunks.Ã, But I don't think this'll be good ... so who knows??
Whether it sucks or not I'm going to see it, and knowing me, I'm going to enjoy it.
QuoteBut hopefully it'll be good hip-hop like Geraldo and Vanilla Ice.
Does... not... compute...
I too have a bad feeling about tis one. However, like Darth, my expectations are so low, I may just be pleasantly surprised. I went into Anderson's "Resident Evil" with the same mindset, and walked away feeling okay about the movie (yes, it was crap, but I didn't want to whack myself across the wang with a rusty frying pan afterwards either, which is what I'd sort of expected to happen... [which begs the question of why I watched it in the first place....]).
They should have just stuck with the plotline from the original Dark Horse comic mini-series, as it was quite good and really, what started the whole idea in the first place (yes, it predated the alien queen skull seen in Predator 2... which I totally freaked out over, btw).
I hoping that it'll be great, though. Really, really hoping.
I've been following the movies creation for the past 5 years, back when it was discussed on dark horizons website. I've been so psyched to see it. I didn't notice the pg-13 rating though, which does sound like a bad idea. If I had to guess, knowing as much as I've read about the storyline and such I would say that
Spoiler
predator wins
And, btw, what was wrong with freddy vs. Jason, I thought it was very well done, and was much much better than my expectations. I'm just waiting for the Freddy, Jason vs. Chucky, Michael/halloween ;)
I too thought Freddy vs. Jason was awesome. As a big fan of both the Nightmare and Friday movies, I found that it was a great tribute to both series'. What I think, is that people have too much expectation in films. I mean, I'm gonna go see AVP, it'll probably be bad, but I'll still love it. Why? Because I'll accept it for what it is.
I think people didn't like Freddy vs. Jason because they wanted to see a movie with character development etc... I mean, if you watch the Nightmare on Elm Street movies, by the third one, I believe, it's not even trying to be scary anymore. The makers of the film just want to kill a bunch of annoying teenagers, make the badguys say witty things, and have fun.
If you watch movies to be entertained, usually you will be, even if the movie is terrible. There's a certain kind of movie that has five different meanings, and deep characters, a gripping plot... Then there's a movie thats fun to watch while you eat some popcorn. Don't get the two confused.
The movie is gonna be horrible. It would take a miracle straight from God and his neighbor for it to be ottherwise.
Am I gonna go see it?
Shit yeah!
A bit off topic and back to the Freddy vs. Jason thing --
I'm a big fan too (when we went to a marathon to see all the Friday the 13th movies back-to-back, my friedns and I actually all stood up and clapped at the 100th on-screen death, and we did something similar at the Nightmare movies), but I just really didn't like Freddy vs. Jason. I guess I had this vision in my mind of how awsome it should have been or something. Reason I didn't like it:
-Thought Jason looked craptastic. One of his worst incarnations ever, IMO.
-Not enough fighting between Jason and Freddy. Wasn't that what peple actually wanted to see?!?!!
-Freddy not attacking Jason's dreams enough or manipulating him to kill others enough.
-Freddy just didn't have NEARLY as many or as good of funny lines in this one as compared to the Nightmare series, where it was a real staple to the series.
-Not enogh of Jason chasing people, a staple of the Friday the 13th series.
-Not enough cool, creative death scenes, something both sereis were great for.
There's other things, too, but those are the big ones. I guess it comes down to me just not having as much fun watching it as I did with pretty much all of the other movies that came before it. Heck, I even appreciated Jason X more than I did Freddy vs. Jason.
Back to Aliens vs. Predator, though, I have a feeling that they'll be making a lot of those same mistakes in not keeping intact some of the crucial elements that made those movies great. A PG13 rating ALONE stinks of "but we want kids to be able to see this too... so we can get more money!!!". Of course, maybe then there's a better chance of more action figures, too. And we can never have enough Aliens and Predator action figures, can we?
Quote from: Ozwalled on Tue 03/08/2004 03:54:46
And we can never have enough Aliens and Predator action figures, can we?
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Yes.
The PG-13 rating worries me aswell.. But the MPAA is a little whacked out. They gave American Splendor an R rating because it had the f-word in it.. twice, maybe, and it had majorly adult thematic elements.. Yet they give Austin Powers (or any teen movie) a PG-13 rating though it has more sexual innuendos and non-f swearing than an issue of Penthouse... And they'll give a PG-13 rating to LOTR which depicts decapitations and all sorts of violence... But swearing seems to do it in for the MPAA.... I remember when they could say "fuck" in a PG movie.. "Big", anyone?
So I'm guessing (hoping) perhaps that vP will have plenty of viloence (hopefully no gratuitous sex, then I'll be walking out) and just no hardc0re swearing.. .That's not too bad... Considering that swearing hardly ever makes the movie great (baring Goodfellas and some others.) Maybe we won't see the type of gore as seen in Alien 3; but I'm sure there will be mass amounts of killing and all out war between the three sides...
I'm going in with curiousity and nothing more... I know I will probably enjoy it just from the production values. I watched some featurettes at EB Games, and none of the Aliens or Predators are CG... Thank God! They actually went back to using puppets and costumes! Wow..
The only thing I'm afraid of is that Paul Anderson made some plot inconsistencies or is going to make something too unbelievable or just totally irrelavent and wrong when compared to the other movies... Apparently, though. the creator of Bishop (and pioneer of robotics, apparently) will be in the movie... Who, well, also happens to be the same actor who played Bishop in the trilogy. Go figure.
Bottom line is: Nobody knows how it'll go for sure.. Wheter it's crap or greatness, I'm sure lots and lots of people will like it for their own reasons and pay their money happily to see it.
Oh, and Eric... Long live franchising.. :-p
I was thinking about it... The PG13 movie doesn't neccesarily mean no gore... It just means no HUMAN gore. As long as the blood isn't red, it can be as messy as it wants. Chest-bursting Predators anyone? ;)
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Also, Kudos on the Tick.
What, you've never seen the predators spear?
:o
Just curious, but is that "yes you CAN have too many Aliens/ Predator toys" or "yes, that's right: you CAN'T have too many Aliens/ Predator toys"? 'Cause I'm not seeinga Queen there. ::)
I just think the human element in this is going to be too ... THERE. I think what people are afraid of in this movie IS INDEED too much plot development, etc... we just want lots of gore and killing going on between aliens and those other aliens. I don't want a movie called "Alien vs Predator" to be more like "Alien vs Predator with a Bunch of Humans involved". I'm sure I'll see the movie at some point, but I think when people say they suspect it'll be a bad movie, they mean, "It won't be bad enough". It'll have human emotions and feelings and strategy and one-liners and -endless- dialogue. I think the reason they'll never make a great AVP movie is that we all know the general western movie going audience can't handle any serious amount of time without dialogue and if it were a true AVP movie, it's likely to have little speaking in it at all. Just violent sound effects and lots of silent bits.
Skeptical about this movie. IMDB returns a list of people I've never heard of making it.. No original composers, directors, editors etc. That makes me believe this is more of a tie in with a game than a serious "cinematic" attempt to merge the two worlds of alien and predator together. That would be awesome, but I don't think this movie is it.
I'm still going to see it though ;)
I too have a bad feeling about this one, but I still hope for the best. Usually when this happens, the movie turns out to be good. I'm definately going to see it though.
I hope they don't make one of those movies that are so bad that I can write a better one
At least it won't be another "House of the Dead" incident. Uwe Boll deserves a spear in the head and groin..
on the previews that are still running on tv here in the us, it states that the movie is not yet rated.
Honestly, I never expected much from Alien vs. Predator.
I mean, for fucks sake, it's a movie about ALIENS VS. PREDATORS.
What, were people expecting the film to be Shakespeare, covered in gore?
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INT. TEMPLE - NIGHT - CONT'D
The QUEEN ALIEN looks directly at KILMAR, the Predator.
Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, QUEEN ALIEN
Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, (SUBTITLED)
Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Dost thou wishest to killeth me and mine eggs?
Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, KILMAR THE PREDATOR
Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, (SUBTITLED)
Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Alas, it is the postive nature of my feelings that
Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, leads thy to they gruesome death.
Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, QUEEN ALIEN
Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Then I shall not go down without a fight
Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, For I have gestated hard during this fortnight
Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Through your quest for honor you are bound
Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, N'are though time and space our species found
Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, The harmony bear'd by the horror
Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Shared by two races, bound by fate
Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, In your face, I see your furor
Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, In thine eyes, I see the hate.
Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, KILMAR THE PREDATOR
Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, You have spoken true;
Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Now see what mine laser
Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, Ã, does to you!
KILMAR fires his laser.Ã, Gore and Hilarity ensues.
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Predator was about action, gore, violence and much swearing.Ã, The ALIEN series always had a more taut, thriller feel in my opinion.Ã, Do you really think a studio is going to make a "thinking persons" movie about Aliens and Predators?Ã, Nah.
Bt
I agree with Paul Anderson sucking the Devil's gibbets (or something).Ã, I was really hyped for Resident Evil, and then I discover that he took creative license to new heights by inventing ALL his own characters and turning the mansion into a super underground lab.Ã, The movie was good, don't get me wrong, but don't you ever wonder why these people that think they can do so much better than an author/game designer don't just make their own unique movie.Ã, He could have called it Radioactive Zombies of Hoboken and I still would have seen it.Ã,Â
And how many times can they keep using a synthetic to impersonate Weyland before we just get tired of seeing Lance Henriksen altogether?
As to what Blackthorne mentioned, isn't this the first pg-13 predator or alien movie made? Seems to me like the gore will be substantially toned down on this one.
Case closed.
-ProgZ
yeah, nevermind about my previous post. its is pg 13 and that does scare me a bit.
Loved Alien. Hated Predator. The movie will suck.
But Sylpher said it all, really:
QuoteAm I gonna go see it?
Shit yeah!
Blackthorne: I don't think anyone here expects (or even wants) to see an AvP film that tries to be a thoughtful, intelligent work of art - most just want it to be trashy entertainment. But there are still degrees of trash - Robocop, The Thing, Total Recall, Predator and even Alien(s) to an extent are all basically ultraviolent trashy entertainment at heart, but they're beautifully crafted, extremely effective and intelligently handled trashy entertainment.
The reason people are worried about AvP is because there's no reason to assume Paul Anderson is capable of creating anything close to the quality of those films above, and combined with the PG-13 rating, there's plenty of reason to worry that we're going to end up with an ineptly handled, sanitized piece of crap.
I could not have said it better, Paul. I agree completely.
Yeah, Alien vs. Predator is going to be crap.
Who gives a fuck?
And Predator was beautifully crafted? Forgive me if I consider John McTiernan not QUITE as good a director as say, Ridley Scott or James Cameron.
As for PG-13, it's been said - the violence is between two fantasy, Alien creatures. And you can have as much violence in a movie as you like now, just as long as you don't say fuck more than twice, and still recieve a PG-13. Cause lord knows, 'fuck' is more offensive than seeing bodies explode.
Robocop, yeah, that was Verhouven's bloody masterpiece. But the violence in that film was mostly towards humans. The scene that helped it earn it's initial NC-17 rating was the murder of Murphy, which featured extensive prosthetic work by Rob Bottin. Total Recall, again, the Dutch Master was using over-the-top violence in his patented way, based on a story by Phillip K. Dick. The story WAS important.
The Thing, by Carptenter, mostly centered on Human eviseration, although perpetuated by an Alien.
Paul Anderson, yeah, sucks. He's an MTV style director, and I'm sure the studio really wanted to capture the ADD market. But I don't think the movie WON'T be entertaining.
Anyopne ever read the AvP commics? they came out many moons ago when I was a freshman in high school. And they kicked ass. I am definatly willing to give this film a shot.
C.
Quote from: Dark Stalkey on Mon 02/08/2004 19:38:52
QuoteBut hopefully it'll be good hip-hop like Geraldo and Vanilla Ice.
Does... not... compute...
Sorry ... I meant GeraRdo ... you know, the Rico Suave moron from years ago?
I saw the HBO First Look at this movie.Ã, I think I'll go see it for sure now.Ã, Just to see it.Ã, I played the first AVP game years ago on the Atari Jaguar (which most probably don't remember) and started thinking then how cool of a movie it would make.
Here's hoping!
Saw it this weekend.
It was everything I expected. So I enjoyed it.
For a PG-13 rated movie, it was plenty violent, although one could tell it WAS cut (particularily, it was flash cut - the gore was there, but it never lingered on it. 2 milloseconds of screen time, usually) for violence. But it was a decent sci-fi/action flick.
If you want great acting and a good plot, rent "The Godfather". If you wanna see two intergalactic beasts fight, see Alien vs. Predator.
Bt
I saw it too. I thought it was pretty neat.. But obviously was watered down. I'm hoping the decision to keep it PG-13 was made AFTER shooting....
/me crosses fingers for an unedited directors cut DVD.
IMO, it was rather good and had a decent (cliche) plot, but it was far too short. It could've been 20-30 minutes longer with more dueling and more character time. The humans hardly put up a fight, and I would've liked to have seen them last a bit longer. They just dropped like flies. Too easy.
Other than that, I give it a B+
Quote from: [lgm] on Mon 16/08/2004 00:05:59
I saw it too. I thought it was pretty neat.. But obviously was watered down. I'm hoping the decision to keep it PG-13 was made AFTER shooting....
I think it was. You can tell that the gorier sequences, and some language, were edited out. Or for language alternate takes were used.
Bt
;D I jus got back from watching it.Two Thumbs up!There was two things i would complain about but there spoilers so i will ust keep it to muhself.all in all very good.