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Title: BAN DIHYDROGEN MONOXIDE!
Post by: juncmodule on Wed 05/05/2004 02:31:20
Dihydrogen monoxide is colorless, odorless, tasteless, and kills uncounted thousands of people every year. Most of these deaths are caused by accidental inhalation of DHMO, but the dangers of dihydrogen monoxide do not end there. Prolonged exposure to its solid form causes severe tissue damage. Symptoms of DHMO ingestion can include excessive sweating and urination, and possibly a bloated feeling, nausea, vomiting and body electrolyte imbalance. For those who have become dependent, DHMO withdrawal means certain death.

Dihydrogen monoxide:


Ã,  a.. is also known as hydroxl acid, and is the major component of acid rain.
Ã,  b.. contributes to the "greenhouse effect."
Ã,  c.. in its gaseous state it may cause severe burns.
Ã,  d.. contributes to the erosion of our natural landscape.
Ã,  e.. accelerates corrosion and rusting of many metals.
Ã,  f.. may cause electrical failures and decreased effectiveness of automobile brakes.
Ã,  g.. has been found in excised tumors of terminal cancer patients.

Contamination is reaching epidemic proportions!

Quantities of dihydrogen monoxide have been found in almost every stream, lake, and reservoir in America today. But the pollution is global, and the contaminant has even been found in Antarctic ice. DHMO has caused millions of dollars of property damage in the midwest, and recently California.

Despite the danger, dihydrogen monoxide is often used:


Ã,  a.. as an industrial solvent and coolant.
Ã,  b.. in nuclear power plants.
Ã,  c.. in the production of styrofoam.
Ã,  d.. as a fire retardant.
Ã,  e.. in many forms of cruel animal research.
Ã,  f.. in the distribution of pesticides. Even after washing, produce remains contaminated by this chemical.
Ã,  g.. as an additive in certain "junk-foods" and other food products.

Companies dump waste DHMO into rivers and the ocean, and nothing can be done to stop them because this practice is still legal. The impact on wildlife is extreme, and we cannot afford to ignore it any longer!

The American government has refused to ban the production, distribution, or use of this damaging chemical due to its "importance to the economic health of this nation." In fact, the navy and other military organizations are conducting experiments with DHMO, and designing multi-billion dollar devices to control and utilize it during warfare situations. Hundreds of military research facilities receive tons of it through a highly sophisticated underground distribution network. Many store large quantities for later use.
Title: Re: BAN DIHYDROGEN MONOXIDE!
Post by: Ashen on Wed 05/05/2004 02:46:01
Yes, yes. H2O. Water.

Sorry, been having a serious rant in another thread, felt like being flip.

Title: Re: BAN DIHYDROGEN MONOXIDE!
Post by: Raggit on Wed 05/05/2004 02:50:54
Wow, that sounds like nasty stuff! 

I can't believe they put it in food. 
Title: Re: BAN DIHYDROGEN MONOXIDE!
Post by: Ashen on Wed 05/05/2004 02:52:24
This actually nearly made US law, before someone realised how dumb it was.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/elsewhere/journalist/story/0,7792,1176710,00.html

And it's in the Guardian, so it must be true!
Title: Re: BAN DIHYDROGEN MONOXIDE!
Post by: shbaz on Wed 05/05/2004 02:53:35
I wonder if you might have read my post at elysiun? Just a weird coincedence?
Title: Re: BAN DIHYDROGEN MONOXIDE!
Post by: Gilbert on Wed 05/05/2004 02:54:22
/me needs to get rid of his own body and swidth to a (even) more robotic one, to get rid of DHMO, which contributes most part of his current body!

We must also invent machines using nano technology to avoid the natural formation of DHMO!
Title: Re: BAN DIHYDROGEN MONOXIDE!
Post by: shbaz on Wed 05/05/2004 03:06:10
I don't get the "natural formation" bit.. it exists naturally, but it isn't naturally formed (on Earth). That happens only when you burn hydrogen + oxygen. Otherwise it just cycles through its different forms.
Title: Re: BAN DIHYDROGEN MONOXIDE!
Post by: Gilbert on Wed 05/05/2004 03:09:27
Heh shouldn't chemical reactions within animal bodies, mixing acids with alkali, etc. be considered natural. ;)

Well natural is an ambigorous word...
Title: Re: BAN DIHYDROGEN MONOXIDE!
Post by: shbaz on Wed 05/05/2004 03:43:55
That is indeed natural, but they don't chemically produce water.. they just mix it with other substances and the output isn't pure water.
Title: Re: BAN DIHYDROGEN MONOXIDE!
Post by: Gilbert on Wed 05/05/2004 03:48:08
Heh who said "pure" ? ;)
Title: Re: BAN DIHYDROGEN MONOXIDE!
Post by: juncmodule on Wed 05/05/2004 03:51:05
QuoteSorry, been having a serious rant in another thread, felt like being flip.

Some people just don't know how to have fun. :'(
Title: Re: BAN DIHYDROGEN MONOXIDE!
Post by: Ashen on Wed 05/05/2004 03:55:16
Read the other thread (what....mad), this IS fun. Sorry to spoil your fun so soon, but it looks like everyone else was on to ya anyway.
Title: Re: BAN DIHYDROGEN MONOXIDE!
Post by: LGM on Wed 05/05/2004 04:02:00
You almost fooled me. Till I realised it was H20... bah... I fell for it.. I feel stupid.
Title: Re: BAN DIHYDROGEN MONOXIDE!
Post by: juncmodule on Wed 05/05/2004 04:03:08
Ashen: I don't like you.
Title: Re: BAN DIHYDROGEN MONOXIDE!
Post by: earlwood on Wed 05/05/2004 04:06:31
I read the title and thought, " think I need that stuff to not die" but I read anyways and was almost fooled.
Title: Re: BAN DIHYDROGEN MONOXIDE!
Post by: Ashen on Wed 05/05/2004 04:07:59
Hope that's sarcasm, 'cause I actually quite like YOU. Trust me, I grow on you. Like a rash.
Title: Re: BAN DIHYDROGEN MONOXIDE!
Post by: TerranRich on Wed 05/05/2004 05:11:07
Hah. pretty funny stuff.

And LGM, you're a dumbass. :P
Title: Re: BAN DIHYDROGEN MONOXIDE!
Post by: Nine Toes on Wed 05/05/2004 10:46:48
Quote from: juncmodule on Wed 05/05/2004 02:31:20Symptoms of DHMO ingestion can include excessive sweating and urination, and possibly a bloated feeling, nausea, vomiting and body electrolyte imbalance. For those who have become dependent, DHMO withdrawal means certain death.

Shut up, dude... you're scaring me...

EDIT:
Ooh-ha-ha...

You had me fooled... yoooooooooo bastard.....
Title: Re: BAN DIHYDROGEN MONOXIDE!
Post by: Robert Eric on Wed 05/05/2004 11:46:17
Go get Hydrogen Peroxide and have some fun.  Trust me, kids, there are a lot of fun things you can do with this stuff.  You can bleach your hair, your beard, your eyebrows, your chest hair, back hair, your asshair, ball hair and even your pubic hair.  Of coarse, doing your lower regions may leave you tingling for the rest of the day.
Title: Re: BAN DIHYDROGEN MONOXIDE!
Post by: LGM on Wed 05/05/2004 13:59:59
Hydrogen Peroxide is good.. But why don't they call it Hydrogen Dioxide? It's forumla is just H202, right??

RIGHT??
Title: Re: BAN DIHYDROGEN MONOXIDE!
Post by: Nacho on Wed 05/05/2004 15:08:15
So... we should change H2O by beer in our diets?  ???
Title: Re: BAN DIHYDROGEN MONOXIDE!
Post by: TerranRich on Wed 05/05/2004 16:36:58
Quote from: LilGryphMaster on Wed 05/05/2004 13:59:59
Hydrogen Peroxide is good.. But why don't they call it Hydrogen Dioxide? It's forumla is just H202, right??

RIGHT??

RIGHT!!!
Title: Re: BAN DIHYDROGEN MONOXIDE!
Post by: dasjoe on Wed 05/05/2004 17:05:12
hydrogen (su)peroxide, it means that it has one oxygen-thingy more than usual.
it's some special stuff ;)
Title: Re: BAN DIHYDROGEN MONOXIDE!
Post by: Haddas on Wed 05/05/2004 17:18:51
QuoteSo... we should change H2O by beer in our diets?  ???

Wouldn't work. Beer has H2O in it :P
Title: Re: BAN DIHYDROGEN MONOXIDE!
Post by: SSH on Wed 05/05/2004 17:19:18
Peroxide is speical, apparently...

http://educate-yourself.org/cancer/benefitsofhydrogenperozide17jul03.shtml
Title: Re: BAN DIHYDROGEN MONOXIDE!
Post by: Vel on Wed 05/05/2004 18:28:15
Oh my God, there are people who actually FELL for this.
Title: Re: BAN DIHYDROGEN MONOXIDE!
Post by: juncmodule on Wed 05/05/2004 19:21:35
Origins:Ã,  Ã, 

In 1997, Nathan Zohner, a 14-year-old student at Eagle Rock Junior High School in Idaho Falls, based his science fair project on a report similar to the one reproduced above. Zohner's project, titled "How Gullible Are We?", involved presenting this reportÃ,  about "the dangers of dihyrogen monoxide" to fifty ninth-grade students and asking them what (if anything) should be done about the chemical. Forty-three students favored banning it, six were undecided, and only one correctly recognized that 'dihydrogen monoxide' is actually H2O - plain old water. Zohner's analysis of the results he obtained won him first prize in the Greater Idaho Falls Science Fair; garnered him scads of attention from newspapers, magazines, radio and TV stations, universities, and congresspeople; and prompted the usual round of outcries about how our ignorant citizenry doesn't read critically and can be easily misled. In other words, a tempest in a teapot.

Zohner's project wasn't original: spoof petitions about dihydrogen monoxide and other innocuous "dangers" have been circulating for years, and Zohner based his project on a bogus report that was already making the rounds of the Internet. Moreover, Zohner's target audience was ninth-graders, a group highly susceptible to allowing peer pressure to overwhelm critical thinking. Thrust any piece of paper at the average high school student with a suggestion about what the "correct" response to it should be, and peer pressure pretty much assures you'll get the answer you're looking for. Someone that age isn't very likely to read a friend's petition calling for the banning of whale hunting and critically evaluate the socio-economic and environmental impact of such a regulation. Instead, he's probably going to say to himself, "This issue is obviously important to my friend, and he must have some good reasons for circulating the petition, so I'll sign it."

That said, this example does aptly demonstrate the kind of fallacious reasoning that's thrust at us every day under the guise of "important information": how with a little effort, even the most innocuous of substances can be made to sound like a dangerous threat to human life. The next time you receive an ominous message such as the one warning you that sodium lauryl sulfate (a common foaming ingredient used in shampoos) causes cancer, with the "proof" being that this caustic chemical is also used to scrub garage floors, keep in mind that the very same thing could be said of another ubiquitous cleaning agent . . . dihydrogen monoxide.

Update:Ã,  Ã, In March 2004 the California municipality of Aliso Viejo (a suburb in Orange County) came within a cat's whisker of falling for this hoax after a paralegal there convinced city officials of the danger posed by this chemical. The leg-pull got so far as a vote having been scheduled for the City Council on a proposed law that would have banned the use of foam containers at city-sponsored events because (among other things) they were made with DHMO, a substance that could "threaten human health and safety."
Title: Re: BAN DIHYDROGEN MONOXIDE!
Post by: Ryukage on Thu 06/05/2004 16:50:01
Quote from: LilGryphMaster on Wed 05/05/2004 13:59:59
Hydrogen Peroxide is good.. But why don't they call it Hydrogen Dioxide? It's forumla is just H202, right??

RIGHT??

Hydrogen Dioxide would be HO2, a very improbable combination.  You might call H2O2 Dihydrogen Dioxide, but the convention is to not put a prefix on the first element unless you have to, so they call it Hydrogen Peroxide, meaning one oxygen for each hydrogen.
Title: Re: BAN DIHYDROGEN MONOXIDE!
Post by: Rave on Thu 06/05/2004 17:25:56
Quotec.. in its gaseous state it may cause severe burns.

Water vapor can burn me? I dun get it. Does that mean steam or somthing, because dihydrogen monoxide in its liquid state at boiling temp would do worse, eh?
Title: Re: BAN DIHYDROGEN MONOXIDE!
Post by: on Thu 06/05/2004 19:56:02
Quote from: Ryukage on Thu 06/05/2004 16:50:01
Quote from: LilGryphMaster on Wed 05/05/2004 13:59:59
Hydrogen Peroxide is good.. But why don't they call it Hydrogen Dioxide? It's forumla is just H202, right??

RIGHT??

Hydrogen Dioxide would be HO2, a very improbable combination.Ã,  You might call H2O2 Dihydrogen Dioxide, but the convention is to not put a prefix on the first element unless you have to, so they call it Hydrogen Peroxide, meaning one oxygen for each hydrogen.

improbable as in impossible...
Title: Re: BAN DIHYDROGEN MONOXIDE!
Post by: DragonRose on Thu 06/05/2004 20:10:52
Quote from: Rave on Thu 06/05/2004 17:25:56Water vapor can burn me? I dun get it. Does that mean steam or somthing, because dihydrogen monoxide in its liquid state at boiling temp would do worse, eh?
Yes, it does mean steam.  That is H20 in a gaseous state.  Water vapour (The stuff you get from a humidifier) is just very fine dropplets of water, so it's still technically liquid.

And steam burns worse than boiling water. I've got scars to proove it.  :'(
Title: Re: BAN DIHYDROGEN MONOXIDE!
Post by: Gregjazz on Thu 06/05/2004 21:17:01
I've heard this one a long time ago. :)
Title: Re: BAN DIHYDROGEN MONOXIDE!
Post by: LGM on Thu 06/05/2004 21:26:43
In the film Bone Collector, a woman is tied infront of a steam vent, and is blasted with it. They find her later and her face is melted.

Last time I checked, boiling water doesn't quite do that..
Title: Re: BAN DIHYDROGEN MONOXIDE!
Post by: Damien on Thu 06/05/2004 21:32:16
Boling water doesn't. Steam might.
Title: Re: BAN DIHYDROGEN MONOXIDE!
Post by: Meowster on Thu 06/05/2004 22:39:05
This stuff is also lethal if you inhale it through your nose.
Title: Re: BAN DIHYDROGEN MONOXIDE!
Post by: LGM on Thu 06/05/2004 23:33:00
Damien.. That's what I just said ;-p
Title: Re: BAN DIHYDROGEN MONOXIDE!
Post by: TerranRich on Fri 07/05/2004 03:14:33
Yufster, that was already said in the original post -- lethal if inhaled.

And change your name back, for heaven's sake.
Title: Re: BAN DIHYDROGEN MONOXIDE!
Post by: Meowster on Fri 07/05/2004 20:18:05
Damn. And No.
Title: Re: BAN DIHYDROGEN MONOXIDE!
Post by: LGM on Fri 07/05/2004 21:42:06
She just has abnormal testosterone(sp?) levels and would like to be considered a male for when she goes to Brittens so she's not the minority.