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Title: Beat the statistics - Solve this riddle
Post by: shbaz on Tue 20/04/2004 03:10:21
QuoteThe original question posed by Einstein was “Who keeps the fish?”

In a street there are 5 houses painted 5 different colors. In each house lives a person of a different nationality. The 5 homeowners each drink a different beverage,
smoke a different brand of cigar, and keep a different pet.

The question is: Who keeps the fish?

HINTS:

1. The Brit lives in the red house.
2. The Swede has a dog.
3. The Dane drinks tea.
4. The green house is on the left of the white house.
5. The owner of the green house drinks coffee.
6. The person who smokes pall mall has birds.
7. The owner of the yellow house smokes Dunhills.
8. The man living in the center house drinks milk.
9. The Norwegian lives in the first house.
10. The man who smokes blends lives next to the one who has cats.
11. The man who has horses lives next to the man who smokes Dunhills.
12. The man who smokes blue master drinks beer.
13. The German smokes prince.
14. The Norwegian lives next to the blue house.
15. The man who smokes blends has a neighbor who drinks water.

Albert Einstein wrote this riddle in the early 20th century. He said that 98% of the population would not be able to solve it. Good luck.

I think that at the turn of the century, perhaps 98% of people couldn't solve this. However, in another forum I go to, at least 5 people have solved it already out of my estimated 15 who tried.

Try to figure it out. It might take a while, and if you get it I'm sure you'll be excited, but don't post it here, PM me and I'll tell you if you are correct. I want to see a realistic amount of people who can solve it.

Use Excel or some heavy Algebra for best results. It took a couple of sheets of paper for me to get it, and ~45 minutes thinking really hard.
Title: Re:Beat the statistics - Solve this riddle
Post by: Gilbert on Tue 20/04/2004 03:32:08
It's not really that difficult, and I'd played it before.
Just use logic.

He asked for a PM Mr Gilbert, tut tut
Title: Re:Beat the statistics - Solve this riddle
Post by: shbaz on Tue 20/04/2004 03:58:22
The logic is rather involved though.. that's the catch. A lot of people would get hung up in it and not know what to do.
Title: Re:Beat the statistics - Solve this riddle
Post by: Gilbert on Tue 20/04/2004 04:02:08
It's just complicated, not difficult, it can be solved easily with patient.
Title: Re:Beat the statistics - Solve this riddle
Post by: shbaz on Tue 20/04/2004 04:03:53
Precisely what I meant..

Some people took over 2 hours.
Title: Re:Beat the statistics - Solve this riddle
Post by: LGM on Tue 20/04/2004 04:26:15
I have no paitence, ergo, I will not attempt to solve.
Title: Re:Beat the statistics - Solve this riddle
Post by: shbaz on Tue 20/04/2004 04:35:31
Losttravelor wrote a macro and solved it in ~15 minutes.

I feel dumb, I should have done that instead of the paperwork.
Title: Re:Beat the statistics - Solve this riddle
Post by: Moox on Tue 20/04/2004 04:52:50
Hehehe I love computers
Title: Re:Beat the statistics - Solve this riddle
Post by: MillsJROSS on Tue 20/04/2004 05:38:47
Do you send us confirmation if we get it correct, or wrong?

-MillsJROSS
Title: Re:Beat the statistics - Solve this riddle
Post by: shbaz on Tue 20/04/2004 06:03:02
Mills got it too.
Title: Re:Beat the statistics - Solve this riddle
Post by: goldenmonkey on Tue 20/04/2004 07:25:07
Put in what I think it is, hope it's right.
LostTraveler: Using a computer isn't really working it out yourself, Einstein said 2% of people should be able to solve it, not 2% of people and their computers
Title: Re:Beat the statistics - Solve this riddle
Post by: shbaz on Tue 20/04/2004 07:29:45
Yep you were right.

QuoteLostTraveler: Using a computer isn't really working it out yourself, Einstein said 2% of people should be able to solve it, not 2% of people and their computers

Gotta admit he had some ingenuity there though, heh. He knew how to solve it but didn't want to spend as much time so he programmed a macro.

I think that with the results of this, it's way over 2%. In 1910, it would be different, but I was sort of using this to restore my faith in society. In fact people are smarter than they used to be, at least.
Title: Re:Beat the statistics - Solve this riddle
Post by: evenwolf on Tue 20/04/2004 07:30:38
And technically, if 'figuring it out' simply means to name which house - I think more than 2% of the population can guess with the odds at 1/5.
Title: Re:Beat the statistics - Solve this riddle
Post by: Las Naranjas on Tue 20/04/2004 07:39:49
Or at least that this style of puzzle has become more prevalent.
Title: Re:Beat the statistics - Solve this riddle
Post by: Esseb on Tue 20/04/2004 10:11:22
Edit: I managed to solve the riddle but not send a simple PM. Yay me.
Title: Re:Beat the statistics - Solve this riddle
Post by: shbaz on Tue 20/04/2004 12:23:27
Esseb, Kinoko, and Privateer Puddin' are added to the list.. and the first person to get it wrong, though I don't think I'll mention that.

So we've got:
Losttravelor
MillsJROSS
Goldenmonkey
Esseb
Privateer Puddin
Kinoko

And maybe Gilbert, but I dunno, because he never PM'd me.

I'm glad I'm not the only nerd who likes word puzzles.. I just saw the challenge, and I had that cocky attitude where I must figure out the answer or risk facing my own stupidity. At least I only have to face my stupidity in other subjects now.  :D
Title: Re:Beat the statistics - Solve this riddle
Post by: Kinoko on Tue 20/04/2004 12:25:28
I think I did it. I need confirmation but... Oh, I'll just -die- if I was wrong -_-

It took me about an hour and a couple of scraps of paper (I'm pretty methodical). I imagine most decently intelligent people would be able to do this these days, as long as their willing to take the time to work it out (and not on their computers >:)

I think that's the catch though, a lot of people would just give up after 5 minutes.

EDIT: WOOHOO! I'm smart!
Title: Re:Beat the statistics - Solve this riddle
Post by: shbaz on Tue 20/04/2004 12:27:41
Haha, you didn't read my post, or my PM. You PM'd me as I was typing that.
Title: Re:Beat the statistics - Solve this riddle
Post by: Mr_Frisby on Tue 20/04/2004 12:49:56
I think I got it? I hope I got it? :-\
Title: Re:Beat the statistics - Solve this riddle
Post by: DGMacphee on Tue 20/04/2004 12:57:51
I GOT IT!!!

Colonel Mustard in the Ballroom with the Giant Dildo!!!

Oh... wait...
Title: Re:Beat the statistics - Solve this riddle
Post by: SSH on Tue 20/04/2004 13:15:28
It took me two minutes to solve it ... by googling "einstein riddle answer"  :P

Title: Re:Beat the statistics - Solve this riddle
Post by: Nacho on Tue 20/04/2004 15:29:57
Shbazjinkens has been PMed!!!1  :)
Title: Re:Beat the statistics - Solve this riddle
Post by: kaaZ on Tue 20/04/2004 17:04:07
cool riddle...pm'ed ya zbjienc#@#^&...whatever...
Title: Re:Beat the statistics - Solve this riddle
Post by: MrColossal on Tue 20/04/2004 19:18:16
Quote from: EvenWolf on Tue 20/04/2004 07:30:38
And technically, if 'figuring it out' simply means to name which house - I think more than 2% of the population can guess with the odds at 1/5.

Duh, of course Einstein didn't know what he was talking about... He made very little money and I think the majority of people on this forum make more money than him..

Way to go Einstein...
Title: Re:Beat the statistics - Solve this riddle
Post by: Privateer Puddin' on Tue 20/04/2004 19:26:17
Quote from: SSH on Tue 20/04/2004 13:15:28
It took me two minutes to solve it ... by googling "einstein riddle answer"  :P

yet it still took you two minutes?!
Title: Re:Beat the statistics - Solve this riddle
Post by: Esseb on Tue 20/04/2004 19:50:58
Considering the riddle only states that the green house is to the left of the white house, not to the immediate left, there may be more than one solution. I'm too lazy to check or even google for it so I'll let the next bored person to read this thread figure out if there is.
Title: Re:Beat the statistics - Solve this riddle
Post by: shbaz on Tue 20/04/2004 20:18:09
Wow.. a lot more PM's. Now that that Google is mentioned, I guess I may as well post the answer. 11 People have worked it out now.

Losttravelor
MillsJROSS
Goldenmonkey
Esseb
Privateer Puddin
Kinoko
Mr_Frisby
Farlander
Blackbird
KaaZ
hX


Spoiler
It's the American
[close]

Spoiler
I mean.. the German.

1   Yellow   Norweigan   Water   Dunhills   Cats
2   blue   Dane   tea   blends   Horses
3   Red   British   milk   Pall mall   Birds
4   green   German   coffee   Prince   Fish
5   white   Swede   beer   blue master   Dog
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Title: Re:Beat the statistics - Solve this riddle
Post by: Esseb on Tue 20/04/2004 23:25:23
QuoteFinally, you may want to notice that the young Albert Einstein (1879-1955) could not possibly have authored the puzzle in this form:  The Pall Mall brand of cigarettes was introduced by Butler & Butler in 1899 (sold to American Tobacco in 1907 and Brown & Williamson in 1994) and Alfred Dunhill was established in 1893 (starting to manufacture pipes in 1907) when Einstein was still a young man.  However, the Blue Master brand was introduced by J. L. Tiedemann in 1937, when Einstein was 58!

We've been told about a few recreational magazines (listed below) in which many such [rather boring] brain teasers could be found on a regular basis.  This particular puzzle may well have originated in one of these, and would owe its enduring popularity to its apocryphal attribution to Einstein:  Logica (French monthly), Dell Crosswords, Logic Problems (British), McCall's Magazine (1950's ?), PM (German), etc.

http://home.att.net/~numericana/answer/recreational.htm#einstein5 (http://home.att.net/~numericana/answer/recreational.htm#einstein5)
Title: Re:Beat the statistics - Solve this riddle
Post by: Robert Eric on Tue 20/04/2004 23:31:58
Since I'm an American, I most likely can't answer the question.  Using that excuse, I won't even try.
Title: Re:Beat the statistics - Solve this riddle
Post by: Nacho on Tue 20/04/2004 23:45:17
Mmm... I think it's funnier to try to solve the riddle that googling for evidence about if it was or not invented by Einstein...  ???

/me hopes Esseb doesn't read this...

;)
Title: Re:Beat the statistics - Solve this riddle
Post by: Esseb on Tue 20/04/2004 23:57:22
I already had my fun Farlander.

I don't know what you wrote as I haven't read it, I just felt like typing that.
Title: Re:Beat the statistics - Solve this riddle
Post by: evenwolf on Wed 21/04/2004 00:48:26
Quote from: MrColossal on Tue 20/04/2004 19:18:16
Duh, of course Einstein didn't know what he was talking about... He made very little money and I think the majority of people on this forum make more money than him..

Way to go Einstein...


And I'm smarter than you, brainiac!

Listen, I could sit around all day trying to figure out how smart I am with dinky puzzles- but I'd much rather go out and make money, becoming smarter every minute!
Title: Re:Beat the statistics - Solve this riddle
Post by: Robert Eric on Wed 21/04/2004 00:57:06
Yes, the more money you have, the smarter you are.  A good rule to live by.

._.
Title: Re:Beat the statistics - Solve this riddle
Post by: Gilbert on Wed 21/04/2004 02:00:00
Quote from: Esseb on Tue 20/04/2004 19:50:58
Considering the riddle only states that the green house is to the left of the white house, not to the immediate left, there may be more than one solution. I'm too lazy to check or even google for it so I'll let the next bored person to read this thread figure out if there is.

Heh when I was solving it long ago, I was once confused on that part, not with immediate left or whatever, but that the riddle didn't state clearly whether the first house started from the left or from the right.
Title: Re:Beat the statistics - Solve this riddle
Post by: Kinoko on Wed 21/04/2004 04:32:53
There are a couple of points that aren't totally clear. I stared blankly at that condition about the green house being "to the left" of the white one for a while. I went with my instinct and assumed it meant the immediate left and luckily that was right. I don't think (thought I'm not sure) that you can solve it by taking it the other way. It seems too non-specific, but maybe it can be done. Would anyone care to try? ^_-
Title: Re:Beat the statistics - Solve this riddle
Post by: DragonRose on Wed 21/04/2004 06:03:32
I love this style of brain teaser, where you have to figure out a riddle based on a series of conditions.  I managed to do this one when I was in grade six or seven, I can't remember.

Quote from: Kinoko on Wed 21/04/2004 04:32:53
I went with my instinct and assumed it meant the immediate left and luckily that was right.

This statement made me giggle. Left is right! Yay for paradoxes!
Title: Re:Beat the statistics - Solve this riddle
Post by: Synthetique on Wed 21/04/2004 16:02:23
Heheh.. old one. Solved it. :P
Title: Re:Beat the statistics - Solve this riddle
Post by: on Wed 21/04/2004 18:39:05
The houses are in space, rotating in a spherical pattern that changes with each succeeding line, so the question is unsolvable.
Title: Re:Beat the statistics - Solve this riddle
Post by: evenwolf on Wed 21/04/2004 18:47:22
haha that's easy jackass!

The american is the only one in space! Oooooh! Space pride!


--ok actually, who does have space programs?
Title: Re:Beat the statistics - Solve this riddle
Post by: Esseb on Wed 21/04/2004 18:53:14
USA, China, Russia and the EU all have the necessary equipment to send a man into space I believe.

Edit: Silly me, I forgot the one I built in my back yard.
Title: Re:Beat the statistics - Solve this riddle
Post by: Robert Eric on Wed 21/04/2004 21:16:47
Well, of coarse Russia does.
Title: Re:Beat the statistics - Solve this riddle
Post by: Las Naranjas on Thu 22/04/2004 01:26:14
Brazil and India have had long running programs as well, and there's limited work, almost exclusively sattelite work, in Japan, which is largely collaborative with other countries.
and the ESA has shown skill in losing stuff on Mars, which had previously been the domain of the US and Soviet Union.
Title: Re:Beat the statistics - Solve this riddle
Post by: Robert Eric on Thu 22/04/2004 01:37:16
Has any of them lost men in their shuttles or the shuttles themselves yet like the US has?
Title: Re:Beat the statistics - Solve this riddle
Post by: Kinoko on Thu 22/04/2004 05:06:43
Wouldn't it be great if someone incorporated one of these riddles into an adventure game? A really difficult one, in such a way that you can't just guess the answer, you have to do various things to "work it out" in the game.
Title: Re:Beat the statistics - Solve this riddle
Post by: Gilbert on Thu 22/04/2004 05:29:26
Heh no, Rodekill was evil enough already.
Title: Re:Beat the statistics - Solve this riddle
Post by: Peter Thomas on Thu 22/04/2004 05:45:09
He was?

When? (by that I really mean what game)
Title: Re:Beat the statistics - Solve this riddle
Post by: Las Naranjas on Thu 22/04/2004 05:47:03
Rodekill.