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Title: Breakdown by Namco (XBOX)
Post by: R4L on Wed 18/08/2004 20:15:27
Hey. Today I played one of the best First Person Shooters on the XBOX. The game is called Breakdown. You are a guy named Derrick Cole, who was a former U.S. Military Sargent. A lab in Yokohoma, Japan had did some experiments on you, and after the experiments you go into a deep coma for a long time. You finally wake up to have a docter saying "Hey, wake up."
"Your our last chance!" For over 10 years, the lab has been researching about a place called Nexus, a highly evolved culture that is sleeping underground on a place called Site Zero. However, their sleep is disturbed and they start to enhabit the earth. They plan to launch rockets and spread superhuman beings called T'lan Warriors all over the world. These creatures can withstand rockets, missiles, grenades, or any kind of human firepower. Apparently, you, Derrick Cole, were the only survivor of a project called The Alpha Project, in which experiments are done to enhance cells. Scientists have found what seems to be a super stimulation called "T'Langen" and when injected into human cells, the cells morph and rapidly increase, thus making the human body more efficient. Superhuman powers begin to develop in a stage called Accelleration, which can occur at any anytime. But you aren't the only one who has the uniqueness. There is a being who guards Nexus. His name is Solus. He has no understanding of feelings, fear, or anything whithin the human brain. He seeks and destroys, using massive power.

The reason why I love this game so much is because Namco has actually tried something unique with FPS. You can punch, kick, and basicly, do anything. You can even do backflips and you see it all through Derrick's eyes! The punch kick thing is different from other FPS's. You can get combo's the more you accelerate, making the game's depth alot bigger. If you see a burger or some soda, grab it and eat/drink it if you want to. Or look at a file lying around, also another thing that impressed me. I have one thing that I can't get over though, and that's the difficulty of this game. Even on normal, this game is extremly hard! Another concern is the game's interface. It can be VERY irritating! When you pick up an item, you have to look at it, then put it in your inventory. It gets annoying in battle or when there are many things to pick up. Another thing is health items. Some things like Rations, or, Cola cans, you can't keep them. If you find one you pick it up, look at it and you either eat/drink it or throw it away. That really sucks if you have low health and are stuck in a hard situation. But, it is a great game with a awesome story and outstanding graphics. Voice acting is pretty decent too. It's worth the rent or the $50.00 price tag, despite the minor flaws.
Title: Re: Breakdown by Namco (XBOX)
Post by: Sylpher on Wed 18/08/2004 20:45:38
There was a game sort of like this on the dreamcast..  you played a ninja and you could punch/kick and use some wacky sword and electric things..

Can't remember what it was called though.
Title: Re: Breakdown by Namco (XBOX)
Post by: Mr Jake on Wed 18/08/2004 22:35:28
meh, Id rather do all that in Multiplayer mode with TS (HL mod)
Title: Re: Breakdown by Namco (XBOX)
Post by: Czar on Wed 18/08/2004 22:46:17
I'm curious.

the xbox thing. Is that good?
Are games on CDs or what?
I'm a total expert on this issue, so if anyone could tell me a bit or two about it, i0 be grateful...

Oh Batman 1 is gonna start now(for the 264th time), gotta go.
Title: Re: Breakdown by Namco (XBOX)
Post by: Privateer Puddin' on Wed 18/08/2004 22:53:36
Games are on DVDs, or the hard drive, if you pick up one of the 80 gig ones and rip em :P

Title: Re: Breakdown by Namco (XBOX)
Post by: Lucky on Wed 18/08/2004 22:54:15
Quote from: Czar_RebornING on Wed 18/08/2004 22:46:17
the xbox thing. Is that good?
Are games on CDs or what?
I'm a total expert on this issue, so if anyone could tell me a bit or two about it, i0 be grateful...

If you want a console, XBox isn't exactly the best choice in my opinion. Most of it's games are also available on PC you see.
Title: Re: Breakdown by Namco (XBOX)
Post by: Privateer Puddin' on Wed 18/08/2004 22:58:07
Meh, even though i do not own an Xbox, and tend to be a nintendo fan boy, i tend to disagree with the whole xbox game = pc game thing but i can't be bothered to rant right now
Title: Re: Breakdown by Namco (XBOX)
Post by: R4L on Wed 18/08/2004 23:32:05
Well I have an XBOX and I sure spent a hell of a lot on it. Just to watch DVD's on it, you need to buy a remote that doesn't come with batteries and all together it costs like 55 bucks. Games aren't that bad but the playstation and gamecube have the funnest games. I currently have 11 games and 4 controllers but no XBOX LIVE because I am a poor bastard.
Title: Re: Breakdown by Namco (XBOX)
Post by: Chicky on Wed 18/08/2004 23:33:29
Yup lucky's reply really got my xbox fanboy'ism heated. But i resisted the big shouting reply. And instead i give you this:

Xbox specs:

*CPU: Intel Pentium III 733-MHz processor technology with streaming SIMD extensions
*Graphics processor: 300-MHz, custom-designed X-Chip, developed by Microsoft and Nvidia
*Total memory: 64MB of RAM (unified memory architecture)
*Memory bandwidth: 6.4GB/second
*Polygon performance: 150M/sec


PS2:

CPU: 128 Bit "Emotion Engine"

    * System Clock: 300 MHz
    * System Memory: 32 MB Direct Rambus
    * Memory Bus Bandwidth: 3.2 GB per second
    * Floating Point Performance: 6.2 GFLOPS
    * 3D CG Geometric Transformation: 66 million Polygons Per Second
   
Gamecube:

    • 485 MHz
    • 32-bit integer
    • 64-bit floating-point
    • 16 Megabytes DRAM
    • 8 bits wide
    • 81 MHz
    • 81 megabits per second per pin
    • 81 megabytes per second bandwidth
    • 3-inch Optical Disc Technology (1.5 gigabytes)
    • memory cards

  Just about sums up the system specs.

And the games, well its a matter of preferance in genre. Personally i like the more serious, lenghy games on xbox. As opposed to the short PS2 games or the happy go rescue a princess of Gamecube. But when it comes to playing somthing like Zelda at a friends house i find it a nice change to my prefered shoot'em up's like halo.

ohh and noticing the rappers post, xbox live DOES rock.


ok, rant over. Now what was the topic about? ;)
Title: Re: Breakdown by Namco (XBOX)
Post by: Mr Jake on Thu 19/08/2004 00:04:54
... btw, if all firepower known to man doesnt work.. just what DO you use to kill the enemiesÃ,  :-\

edit: gamecube pwnz0r j00
Title: Re: Breakdown by Namco (XBOX)
Post by: BerserkerTails on Thu 19/08/2004 00:05:52
As someone who owns all three next-generation consoles, I'd have to say that I think the Xbox is the best one, hardware wise. I still think of the PS2 as my favorite though, because I play it more than my Xbox. And I like the Gamecube least of the three.
Title: Re: Breakdown by Namco (XBOX)
Post by: Sylpher on Thu 19/08/2004 00:09:10
I have a feeling this post is gonna take a turn for the worst at any moment now.




Lynx 4eva!
Title: Re: Breakdown by Namco (XBOX)
Post by: Mr Jake on Thu 19/08/2004 00:10:49
meh, I haven't played Xbox but PS2 is crap :D
Title: Re: Breakdown by Namco (XBOX)
Post by: LGM on Thu 19/08/2004 03:01:23
I remember seeing this game on X-Play. It looks pretty neat. Can you see your feet if you look down?

Also.. You kids are spoiled. Personally, I would be glad to own ANY of the next-gen consoles. They all have great games. You youngin's take everything for granted. 15 years ago, the best thing you could get was a Nintendo... Gah!

It made me very angry.. I heard a 10 year old kid the other day complain about how Halo sucked... Kid doesn't know what he's talking about.. SPOILED BRATS! THE LOT OF YOU!
Title: Re: Breakdown by Namco (XBOX)
Post by: R4L on Thu 19/08/2004 04:27:20
Well Hotspot, Derrick Cole has those powers and he is the only one who can kill solus. You need to BOOM! GIVE THE SMACKDOWN! As for LGM, on the game, you can look down and see legs, a torso and that right there makes it unique. One part in the game Solus taunts you. Computer takes over and Derrick tries to punch but Solus grabs his fist and pushes him back on the ground. It looks cool. Definatly couldn't pull that off on 007 game. All James Bond is on those games is a floating torso.
Title: Re: Breakdown by Namco (XBOX)
Post by: Mr Jake on Thu 19/08/2004 07:58:04
Quote from: [lgm] on Thu 19/08/2004 03:01:23

15 years ago, the best thing you could get was a Nintendo... Gah!
NES rules ._.


so the game if more of a ninja game? hmmm, I haven't got an xbox so Ill stick to TS.
Title: Re: Breakdown by Namco (XBOX)
Post by: Lucky on Thu 19/08/2004 12:01:38
Kinda funny how you XBox fanboys always keep showing it's specs. Good specs does not equal good games. Another funny thing is that XBox fans always praise Halo, but no other games. Not many great games for XBox after all? XBox Live is a great thing though, I can't disagree with that. I have to disagree with the wonders of watching DVDs with XBox though. You can get a better DVD player for cheaper nowadays. (And it won't take half of your bookshelf. :P )

As for PS2's "short" games... Actually I can't think of any way to reply to that, because I don't have any idea what you mean. PS2 has the best supply of games right now, and not just short games. Final Fantasies, Silent Hills, Grand Theft Autos, Metal Gear Solids... are those short? Besides, you can get PS2 for pretty cheap nowadays.

Gamecube. I don't like to praise this, because I'm a fanboy. But still, it has great original games as long as you haven't killed your inner child.

Well, let's hope I didn't spill gasoline on flames now. I hate arguing.
Title: Re: Breakdown by Namco (XBOX)
Post by: Chicky on Thu 19/08/2004 14:09:36
Quote from: Lucky on Thu 19/08/2004 12:01:38
Final Fantasies, Silent Hills, Grand Theft Autos, Metal Gear Solids...

well i liked the original's. But when it comes to FinalFantasy 12 or Resident evil6, Grand Theft Auto5(sa), Mgs3, SilentHill4 the room. It it gets a little boring.

So i say, all in all. Build a decent pc, download some emulators. And play all the games.

capish
Title: Re: Breakdown by Namco (XBOX)
Post by: Sylpher on Thu 19/08/2004 15:06:21
Just to be a bitch Resident Evil is only at the 4th game (well I guess 6th if your technical. Are you technical? Do you read in binary? Do you feed on batteries?). Final Fantasy is getting a bit annoying now though this is ture.
Title: Re: Breakdown by Namco (XBOX)
Post by: ghostface on Thu 19/08/2004 18:17:25
Quote from: chicken on Thu 19/08/2004 14:09:36

So i say, all in all. Build a decent pc, download some emulators. And play all the games.

Quote
I've never heard of a XBOX emulator...if you have, just point the wayÃ,  ???
Title: Re: Breakdown by Namco (XBOX)
Post by: Lucky on Thu 19/08/2004 18:29:10
Quote from: chicken on Thu 19/08/2004 14:09:36
So i say, all in all. Build a decent pc, download some emulators. And play all the games.

Amen. But don't emulate new consoles or you'll go to hell, where you can only play new Tomb Raiders.
Title: Re: Breakdown by Namco (XBOX)
Post by: LGM on Thu 19/08/2004 18:43:42
Yes. Emulation is ILLEGAL! *cough cough*
Title: Re: Breakdown by Namco (XBOX)
Post by: Esseb on Thu 19/08/2004 19:20:21
Emulation isn't illegal. Some of the roms are though.
Title: Re: Breakdown by Namco (XBOX)
Post by: R4L on Thu 19/08/2004 23:03:54
Ghostface, there is a XBOX emulator called The Nightmare. But goodluck finding a XBOX rom out there. I have spent weeks looking for PS1 roms but I found like 2.
Title: Re: Breakdown by Namco (XBOX)
Post by: R4L on Thu 19/08/2004 23:05:53
Emulation is awesome when you have the best emulator and lots of roms. Wario Ware Inc is fun! I use VisualBoyAdvance(latest version) and it runs smooth but you need a computer with lots of ram and space.
Title: Re: Breakdown by Namco (XBOX)
Post by: Chicky on Thu 19/08/2004 23:07:17
Rap4life try the modify button, and...


DC++ it is your friend.

But only download roms of games you already own and DO NOT share them with other people.
Title: Re: Breakdown by Namco (XBOX)
Post by: R4L on Fri 20/08/2004 04:09:12
Quote from: chicken on Thu 19/08/2004 23:07:17
But only download roms of games you already own and DO NOT share them with other people.

I ain't stupid! I know this! But, thanks anyway. I have TONS of roms but I own all the games. I never get rid of any system. What the hell is DC++? I thinking it's a scripting lanquage?
Title: Re: Breakdown by Namco (XBOX)
Post by: Sylpher on Fri 20/08/2004 04:31:59
Just for the record.. Even if you own the game the rom is still illegal for 99% of the games. It states in nearly ever games manual that the back-up rights do not apply to console roms (The whole you can make a back-up of a game incase the disks get damaged and such of early pc software). Because the warranty on games that if they break under regular circumstance (Not because your brother stepped on it)Ã,  they will be replaced.. Sometimes for a price but either way the whole only a rom for games you own thing is not true.

Don't get me wrong.. I have many ROM's. If the game is not being produced anymore and I cannot find it for a reasonable price used then yeah I am just gonna emulate it. I am just seperating fact from fiction.
Title: Re: Breakdown by Namco (XBOX)
Post by: R4L on Fri 20/08/2004 04:35:41
Damn... I HAVE BEEN CHEATED AND LI- well anyway I still have the roms and I plan to keep them.
Title: Re: Breakdown by Namco (XBOX)
Post by: Moox on Fri 20/08/2004 04:45:31
Nintendos Dieing... Just like Sega... First they lose in consoles then when the psp portable and possibly a microsoft portable the DS is history
Title: Re: Breakdown by Namco (XBOX)
Post by: R4L on Fri 20/08/2004 04:59:07
You are completely wrong! The DS is cheaper but will have more Classic games on it. You can expect lots to buy it. The PSP is for PS2 fanboys and will most likely make more money BUT Playstation PSP has fewer manufactors for games. Metal Gear Acid and Gran Turismo are in the working and thats all. More will come. The Nintendo has more because all it's games are licensed to it but it also has companies loyal to it. When someone states something new is on the way at E3, there are companies that will say it will make games for a particular system.There may never be a XBOX handheld because Microsoft doesn't need it to make huge amounts of money. Besides, no one wants to see Halo on a small screen with most of its features gone. I despise Halo in every way, the biggest being that its still game of the year and that its still selling.

Nintendo will not die. Even though Nintendo is a "stubborn" company that won't change its ways, Nintendo won't die if they cut back the prices of the Gamecube games and accessories. $99.00 is cheap enough for a gamecube so no cut on that. If Nintendo plans on having a future, they will make the next home console backword compatible. If its Oh, buy our new system but throw away your old one because you don't need it anymore, gamers will be extremly pissed off. Sony made a good idea to make the PS2 backword compatible. The XBOX has loads of money because of Microsoft. Nintendo will never die as long as people remember it's classic characters. Maybe Nintendo should remake some old games. That should bring them back.
3 Reasons why no one buys Gamecube.
1.) Everyone thinks the games are too cute for them.
2.) The graphics aren't as good.(only lesser lighting and plainer textures.)
3.) Doesn't like the controller.

That just pisses me off to think ho people only care about how the game looks. Driv3r sold soooooo many copies and the bad thing was, it sucked. I rented 2 copies of it and tested them on my XBOX and my friend's PS2. There were MAJOR bugs, the same coming from both systems. The game freezes at the start and then continues or it will freeze and never play again, making me reboot the system. Collision- detection problems are widespread, everything from Tanner to cars sometimes pass through walls that make the gameplay impossible. Pop-up issues and frame rate sluggishness are there too. The new on-foot targeting system flat out sucks. Aiming the weapon is a chore, and it gets aggravating. The enemy AI is horrible. I had no fun playing this. The car chase missions suck too. While the cars handle good, hitting one obstacle sends your car flying into weird positions. One other thing is that your line of site is impressivly long, but the cars teleport into existence a short way down the road, adding unfairly to the challenge of high speed driving. The voice acting is, however, awesome. Sound is good too, as guns to cars sound authentic and clear.

Maybe its intended for Nintendo to go down(god I feel like a bad person typing that). They have been around since the 80's. That's a long time, but still impressive how they are still alive.
Title: Re: Breakdown by Namco (XBOX)
Post by: Sylpher on Fri 20/08/2004 05:11:04
Sega failed because it's buisness management skills were shit from the get go. You need to study your console history and business ethics a bit more before making such a claim...
Title: Re: Breakdown by Namco (XBOX)
Post by: R4L on Fri 20/08/2004 05:25:59
I never stated anything about Sega man. I stated about Nintendo. If you meant about me stating about Nintendo I am right about most stuff. I could be wrong about most stuff I had said but as far as I know Nintendo could be alright.
Title: Re: Breakdown by Namco (XBOX)
Post by: Sylpher on Fri 20/08/2004 05:34:58
[Was talking to LostTraveler.  Thereby on your side]
Title: Re: Breakdown by Namco (XBOX)
Post by: Kinoko on Fri 20/08/2004 06:32:00
Just for the record, and this is fact, not an opinion - the playstation is shithouse ^_^

I own 2 XBoxs and 2 Gamecubes and nothing on earth could make me want to buy a PS2. I agree that stating the XBox's stats is no real way to defend it's greatness. The fact is that there are some AMAZING games on XBox and the specs are the essential icing on the cake for those games. Dead or Alive 3, Jet Set Radio Future (Japanese, of course), NINJA GAIDEN! >_< These are great games on their own but the sheer freaking grunt of the XBox makes them spectacular to play. Ninja Gaiden alone is reason to buy this console.

Gamecube is awesome fun, as usual from Nintendo. The games aren't as good looking as the Xbox, but it still craps all over the PS2. Pikmin, Wind Waker, Animal Crossing and one of the best games ever, Giftpia... these are all great reasons to own a Gamecube.

PS2? Blech. The games are shit in general, and good games are put to shame on it (and of course, there's all those fucking Final Fantasy games that people like other people to know they like). It's the console for people who don't care about their games. ^_^ Sony should have died out and Sega should be living on with the Dreamcast instead.

There you have it - pure gospel.
Title: Re: Breakdown by Namco (XBOX)
Post by: R4L on Fri 20/08/2004 07:00:30
Hmm... I like it!
Title: Re: Breakdown by Namco (XBOX)
Post by: Mr Jake on Fri 20/08/2004 08:00:22
PS2... made with 2/3 year old technology and the cheapest parts Sony can get. They dont even use one of their own CD drives. and, last time I checked, you'd really be better getting a Xbox or gamecubes since the price of the PS2 isnt THAT much lower. (last time I checked)
Title: Re: Breakdown by Namco (XBOX)
Post by: Pet Terry on Fri 20/08/2004 09:52:42
I don't know much about consoles nowdays... but I've been checking some newest games in local markets and I've seen more interesting looking games for PS2. Anyways, games and consoles are so overpriced that I might buy PS2 or Xbox or something after few years if they are cheaper then.

Bah, give me NES or SNES anyday! Those two are good enough for me!

PS. I found this thread amusing.
Title: Re: Breakdown by Namco (XBOX)
Post by: Kinoko on Fri 20/08/2004 14:35:05
Part of the reason a lot of people gravitate to PS2 games is because there're so much MORE of them than on other consoles (in Australia and America anyway... I couldn't say in Japan). Trust me though, the best games on Xbox and Gamecube are usually the ones that don't get as much attention.
Title: Re: Breakdown by Namco (XBOX)
Post by: Mr Jake on Fri 20/08/2004 14:46:13
I also agree with Pete. I WANT MY NES AND MEGA DRIVE BACK >:O
Title: Re: Breakdown by Namco (XBOX)
Post by: Lucky on Fri 20/08/2004 16:08:58
Quote from: Kinoko on Fri 20/08/2004 14:35:05
Trust me though, the best games on Xbox and Gamecube are usually the ones that don't get as much attention.

At least if you've decided to hate everything that's popular.

And yes, SNES was the best console ever.
Title: Re: Breakdown by Namco (XBOX)
Post by: Mr Jake on Fri 20/08/2004 17:40:13
*NES  ;D

Mario Bros > anything ::)
Title: Re: Breakdown by Namco (XBOX)
Post by: R4L on Sat 21/08/2004 20:38:01
Quote from: Hotspot on Fri 20/08/2004 14:46:13
I also agree with Pete. I WANT MY NES AND MEGA DRIVE BACK >:O

Get the emulators at www.thenationnet.com
Title: Re: Breakdown by Namco (XBOX)
Post by: ghostface on Sat 21/08/2004 21:05:16
Quote from: Kinoko on Fri 20/08/2004 14:35:05
Trust me though, the best games on Xbox and Gamecube are usually the ones that don't get as much attention.
I totally agree...like Shenmue 1 and 2...you guys ever played that? That left me breathless.
Quote from: Petteri on Fri 20/08/2004 09:52:42
I don't know much about consoles nowdays... but I've been checking some newest games in local markets and I've seen more interesting looking games for PS2. Anyways, games and consoles are so overpriced that I might buy PS2 or Xbox or something after few years if they are cheaper then.

Bah, give me NES or SNES anyday! Those two are good enough for me!

PS. I found this thread amusing.
I have been waiting for so long for a xbox or ps2, i'll buy it in like 2 years. but yeah nes or snes are the best...its just the graphics of some games on the xbox and ps2 that would leave me drooling for it...i could always use the pc, tho' ;D
Title: Re: Breakdown by Namco (XBOX)
Post by: Mr Jake on Sun 22/08/2004 07:53:36
Emulators aren't the same....

btw: Shenmue 1 ... bloody awesome game!
Title: Re: Breakdown by Namco (XBOX)
Post by: LGM on Sun 22/08/2004 19:50:26
/me owns a Dreamcast and Shenmue 1.. It's all he'll ever need.

Also.. I WOULD buy a next-gen console.. But it's worthless when I spend most of my time on the computer.. I can just spend the money to upgrade my system and buy a nifty gamepad. That way, I'd have a kickin computer for games, AND video editing... You can't lose.
Title: Re: Breakdown by Namco (XBOX)
Post by: R4L on Mon 23/08/2004 06:03:13
I only get on my computer to check my mail, talk to people, and get on the forums here. But when I feel like it I work on a game.
Title: Re: Breakdown by Namco (XBOX)
Post by: R4L on Tue 24/08/2004 04:35:48
Nintendo is gonna score big on this one! Nintendo president Shigeru Miyamoto has announced that The Legend Of Zelda(working title) is in the making. It is to be released in 2005. It will have the classic Zelda emphasis(i don't know how to spell it).
Adult Link(yes, Adult Link) will be coming back with the boomerang, the bow and arrows, the master sword, and with Epona from Ocarina of Time. So far, it has killer graphics and that old dungeon roaming, boss slashing fun that past games have had(Link to the past,NES Zelda). All you Zelda fans rejoice.
Title: Re: Breakdown by Namco (XBOX)
Post by: MrColossal on Tue 24/08/2004 04:51:31
please modify your posts and don't double post, thank you
Title: Re: Breakdown by Namco (XBOX)
Post by: Kinoko on Tue 24/08/2004 06:47:54
That's OLD news, Rap ^_-
Title: Re: Breakdown by Namco (XBOX)
Post by: Mr Jake on Tue 24/08/2004 08:04:12
doesnt that Zelda game in the making have releastic type gfx? I dont think it will work ._.
Title: Re: Breakdown by Namco (XBOX)
Post by: Kinoko on Tue 24/08/2004 14:29:21
It's basically like a more advanced version of Ocarina. I won't judge it much yet, but I had the same reaction of, "Oh... it looks like THAT." I think it'll sell no matter what it looks like - it's a Zelda game. I'm not confident at this stage it'll be a great game. Right now, I'm -much- more excited about the Minish Cap ^_^
Title: Re: Breakdown by Namco (XBOX)
Post by: R4L on Wed 25/08/2004 00:32:46
Me too. I like how Minish Cap looks! ;D
Title: Re: Breakdown by Namco (XBOX)
Post by: Sylpher on Wed 25/08/2004 02:02:48
Kinoko.. You are silly. Here is a cookie.
Title: Re: Breakdown by Namco (XBOX)
Post by: R4L on Wed 25/08/2004 02:32:25
Can I have one?
Title: Re: Breakdown by Namco (XBOX)
Post by: LGM on Wed 25/08/2004 03:14:27
You are not worthy of Sylpher Brand(tm) Cookies
Title: Re: Breakdown by Namco (XBOX)
Post by: Kinoko on Wed 25/08/2004 04:40:46
*Kinoko downs it Cookie Monster style!

Yum, yum!
Title: Re: Breakdown by Namco (XBOX)
Post by: DinghyDog on Wed 25/08/2004 05:02:38
GRAPHICS:

XBox > GCN > PS2

GAMES:

GCN = XBOX >>>> PS2

FUN:

GCN > XBox > PS2

That's all I have to say. Oh, and....

Genesis > all (PWNED)

-DD
Title: Re: Breakdown by Namco (XBOX)
Post by: R4L on Wed 25/08/2004 07:35:00
What I have:

Graphics:
Xbox: Textures are smoother and prettier and lighting is a tad better.

PS2: More pixely graphics but better than the Gamecube on some games. Textures are less prettier and lighting is just a tad behind the Xbox.

GameCube: The graphics are better than PS2 on some games because of better rendering and bump-mapping of characters and lighting is off by a bit. Textures look the same to me.

Games:

Xbox: Most Xbox games have outstanding control and gameplay.

PS2: Most games have great control and gameplay, but suffer from slowdown or pop-up.

GameCube: Most games have good control and gameplay, some just don't push the gameplay enough. Few games have slowdown or pop-up.

Fun:

Xbox,PS2,GameCube: Depends on the type of game, its controls, its story, its gameplay, and its graphics. A game that blows you away with a great story, awesome graphics, and incredible gameplay immersion makes it worthy.

Sorry, kinda went berserk after replying and I think I typed too much.
Title: Re: Breakdown by Namco (XBOX)
Post by: DGMacphee on Wed 25/08/2004 08:30:21
With all this talk about which console is better, I wonder if PC gaming really is dead?

http://www.mobygames.com/featured_article/feature,11/section,45/

What do all you think? Harsh reality or media scare?
Title: Re: Breakdown by Namco (XBOX)
Post by: shbaz on Wed 25/08/2004 08:51:04
Quote from: DGMacphee on Wed 25/08/2004 08:30:21
With all this talk about which console is better, I wonder if PC gaming really is dead?

http://www.mobygames.com/featured_article/feature,11/section,45/

What do all you think? Harsh reality or media scare?

Harsh reality. Most PC games are going to be ports from consoles or have very poor sales.

I think the reason consoles are popular is because you plug them in, put in the disc, and you play it. No complexity, no installation procedures or analyzing the system requirements, no need to shop for a gamepad that you know will work well for you, etc. etc. It's a great way to trust your kids with an expensive device without worrying that they're going to tap into Dad's digital porn stash or format the hard drive. As time goes on maybe people won't care as much (society will become more accustomed to computers), but right now the majority of the world hardly knows enough to use a computer with confidence in areas they haven't explored.

People want it to be easy and fast, and in America it hardly matters that there is already a PC in the house because people throw their money around rather wastefully on anything that entertains them. I think the statistic I heard was, "The average American adult has $30k in credit card debt."
Title: Re: Breakdown by Namco (XBOX)
Post by: Sylpher on Thu 26/08/2004 04:30:47
PC games have been "dead" for ten years. Same with console gaming..

It is silly.




Sorry.. Wish I could offer some amazing sage advice on this subject but that is all.
Title: Re: Breakdown by Namco (XBOX)
Post by: DGMacphee on Thu 26/08/2004 08:34:23
Sylph, I'm interested in your answer, even if you can't elaborate further on it. Mind if I ask a few more questions, though?

When you say "dead", do you mean it in the sense that there's always a report in the media about such-and-such platform being dead?

And if you think both PC Games and console games have been commercially "dead" for ten years, then what gaming/entertainment format do you think is commercially "alive"?

Title: Re: Breakdown by Namco (XBOX)
Post by: Gilbert on Thu 26/08/2004 08:37:02
REAL games like Football, UNO and MONOPOLY.

C'mon! Out of the virtual craps and get real! ;D
Title: Re: Breakdown by Namco (XBOX)
Post by: Mr Jake on Thu 26/08/2004 09:20:44
Monopoly breaks homes!
Title: Re: Breakdown by Namco (XBOX)
Post by: DGMacphee on Thu 26/08/2004 12:35:27
We don't play Monopoly at our house anymore. Someone lost our bank.
Title: Re: Breakdown by Namco (XBOX)
Post by: Kinoko on Thu 26/08/2004 14:41:17
Since I moved to QLD, I only have Operation and Battle Ships. I'd always dreamt of having Operation as a child and my boyfriend bought it for me once ;_; Oh, the happiness. Mind you, I don't think I've played it more than once, but it's the -having- that's important. I really want Monopoly, Scrabble and Cluedo now.
Title: Re: Breakdown by Namco (XBOX)
Post by: on Thu 26/08/2004 20:48:21
Dg, I have heard reports of Pc and console gaming dying off since the early 90's. Even though sales figures show the exact opposite.. So I have learned that most reports are based on current situation and not looking at long run figures.

As well, console gaming and pc gaming goes back and forth. This is the time that Console gaming starts to slump seeing as all the latest systems are getting a bit out dated so pc gaming starts to pick up a lot of steam. Once the new systems come out it will flip around like so and continue to do so until some large wrench gets thrown in the mix.. which, of course, can happen at any moment.
Title: Re: Breakdown by Namco (XBOX)
Post by: Sylpher on Fri 27/08/2004 02:51:18
Just to delve in my statements some more. I remember in the SNES days reading an article, not sure which gaming magazine, that since console rpgs are gaining such huge popularity and Pc games have no real direct competition they expected unless some pc game company can find some way to compete against this HUGE franchise pc gaming will dwindle heavily in sales.. Slight chances it may die all together.

Seeing things now it is easy to point out how silly that is. Simple fact is many games work better sitting on a couch in a comfortable setting with a controller and many games work better at a desk with a mouse in a less.. should I say.. social enviroment?

They can and will coexist until one becomes pointless because one fulfills everything the other can do. The only other option is something that takes out both of them.. or something else not even imaginable for this feable mind.
Title: Re: Breakdown by Namco (XBOX)
Post by: R4L on Fri 27/08/2004 05:30:41
I know a great Action/RPG coming out for Xbox and I think PC. The remake called Fable. It's supposed you give you the most freedom in a game than you can imagine. I read that if you look scary and do bad stuff, it changes how a character interacts with you, whether bowing down before you, or running away. You can also chop their heads off and kick it around  :D.
Title: Re: Breakdown by Namco (XBOX)
Post by: Ozwalled on Fri 27/08/2004 06:19:41
I don't see PC games going away at all -- instead, I figure they'll get far more user-friendly in the near future for the average user. A lot of what PC users have had to put up with to run games and stuff has been awfully ridiculous for a long time, but it has been getting slightly better (think back to years ago when you had to do all kinds of settings fiddling to get a game to run with video or with sound and whatever). It's going to get to a point where a PC's every bit as good at delivering the console-like experience as the consoles are, while still retaining the ability to do all of the tweaking that the consoles don't allow for.

On the flipside, I figure some the the consoles that eventually come out will have a lot more in common with PCs than the current ones do, so that those who are really involed in getting their game on can stay on the bleeding edge like a PC user.

All-in-all, I figure that there's going to be some eventual blurring of the lines between PCs and consoles. It may be a while yet, though....

And yes: Fable has OODLES of potential to be very interesting to play. Hopefully it lives up to some of the expectations (though I'm sure a lot of people will be dissapointed by it not being as good as they envisioned it to be).