Buh-Wha?

[Blaze_Mcleary]

Well, seems like it's time to go incognito on this site to get what I need done, done.

Apparently all the mods are afraid of acting like mods, and everyone I've seen is unable to comprehend the proclivities of the English language to a point where I can say I need a guide through the AGS editor and be told I need to list 99% of the features on said editor, as this is what I required help with.

Not to be insulting or to hold a grudge, but consider it constructive criticism when I say those I've been replied by must bone up on their moderation skills.

Still, like any gentleman, this is simply a letter of resignation of sorts for my account, for whom it may concern, which I hope isn't anyone.

[BOYD1981]

RTFM or STFU

[Ali]

I'm not certain I understand what you're objecting to. It isn't the moderators' job to provide people with help. They are here to keep the boards tidy, functioning and civil. A thread which explained 99% of the AGS editor (or a manual, if you will) would be bulky and unreadable. The forums wouldn't be the place for it.

Unless you are able to approach 99% of game design all at once I can't see why you would need to understand the AGS editor in its entirety. You would do well to follow the suggestions you've been given and deal with one problem at a time.

I hope you can see why your request, though polite, was unreasonable. I also hope appreciate how patient the moderators have been with you, seeing that they have to deal with requests like this a lot.

[Andail]

I have no idea what you're ranting about. What does "afraid of acting like mods" have to do with you not getting satisfactory assistance with the engine?

I don't understand your problem. When you need help with a feature in the AGS engine, do people tell you to list 99% of its features?
Also, are you sure you wanted to write "proclivities" there? And why are you anonymous?
So many questions!

[ildu]

With a sig like that, I'm not one bit surprised . Quoting yourself is teh ultimate awesoemness!

[Darth Mandarb]

If I may toot my own horn a bit; I don't think anybody on this forum would say I'm afraid of acting like a mod (and I would say that none of the others are either).

Now if only I could lock this thread...

Oh, I accept your resignation.  Fare thee well.

[Rui 'Trovatore' Pires]

Blaze, blaze, blaze.

All it takes for one to see where you're coming from is to review your four posts. Should I tell you what an outsider sees?

1st post -

I've looked into the program and can't figure out crap all about it - If anyone has the time, I would appreciate some one who can guide me as I pursue the creation of my game, Life With Death.

So you're having a hard time figuring out the program. Not put the best way, but it's an understandeable problem. You were encouraged to read the manual and the tutorials - you were encouraged to take the time to learn how to use AGS. You were told this and everything you needed to know at this point by two respected members of the community, and the thread was locked, and it was explained why it was locked.

So far so good. But then,

Seriously, can some one like, be my guide while I make my game, Life with Death? If you have an instant messenger, that works best...

I can probably give you a cameo in my game since everyone else on my staff is. xD

You tried a different thread on a different board with the same subject. Hoping to avoid another locked thread this way? This certainly raised a few eyebrows and told us, "He doesn't seem to be willing to work after all."

Then a relatively sensible post -

Yargh! I've looked into the tutorial (after much time actually trying to find the thing) and it's helped very little - Could some one please guide me in the use of the editor for my game, Life With Death?  A stupid request, probably, but I'm not even sure what some of these terms are, and thats just the beginning.  PM, MSN or email or w/e preffed.

...thing is, in the Recruit a Team Thread, answers aren't instantaneous. You've posted this just a few hours ago. What kind of help were you expecting in such a small time? And anyway, it should have been clear to you by now that there are people here who are glad to help people get to grips with AGS... but ONLY when said people have made an effort.

And finally this thread. You sound mightly offended, and even uppity. You come across as someone who's been personally persecuted, or something.

My advice? Don't post anymore.

Seriously. But that doesn't mean you have to go away. Lurk around. See what a useful post is. See what a useful post isn't.

And for pete's sake, make an effort to understand AGS. All your posts broadcast one single, clear message - you dabbled with it for no more than 10 minutes and gave up. If that isn't true, then re-think your posting habits.

The tutorial is a practical example. There are threads in the Beginner's Board that cover a variety of subjects. No-one else has had this problem, AFAIK - in fact, everyone has always praised AGS' ease of use. Unless you're using the 2.8 version and a 2.72 tutorial, or something, you are simply, clearly, not trying hard enough. Or you just can't get to grips with AGS, in which case you should switch engines - there's a lot of alternatives.

Bottom line? We like to help, sure, but you have to do something yourself. You have to bother to learn. Otherwise, why should we bother to teach?

Resignation accepted as well. But if you want to make some follow-up posts or threads, by all accounts, do. It should provide me with some entertainment.

EDIT - BTW, no one asked to you recite 99% of the features of the editor. Even removing the sarcasm, I can only assume it was you who failed to understand what was being said.

[Phemar]

Cheerio. You won't be missed.

[InCreator]

...Ever seen this?



If you have trouble with eyesight, well... let's zoom ten times!



This icon is for tutoring, not kissing. Users who have icon like this under their avatar, are offering their time to hold your hand through magnificent journey through game making. Just like you wanted.

Just find one and send him a polite personal message. And I'm sure you get help.
Don't start a fight with moderators, make stupid threads or be stubborn if you don't understand the rules.

[Stupot]

I thought it was a vase.

[Shane 'ProgZmax' Stevens]

It's not really our job as moderators to do anything except moderate the forums; we're not expected to tutor people in the ways of AGS, and frankly, that's what the technical forums and the ags manual are there for.  It seems to me like you didn't get the reply you wanted from one moderator and now you're having a little public fit like so many other children have had here over the years.  My advice is to:

A) Get over it and do something constructive with your time, like post respectful topics requesting help in the appropriate forum rather than creating drama.

or

B) Find a forum where people are going to wipe your bottom and pat you on the shoulder while they're doing it (which isn't this forum).

Does this seem harsh?  Probably.  Is it deserved?  I think so.

[Rui 'Trovatore' Pires]

I thought it was a vase.

Looks like a sword to me... either that or a face staring at the camera with a huge invisible nose that intersects an invisible mouth.

[monkey0506]

You were told this and everything you needed to know at this point by two respected members of the community

Code: ags

cMonkey0506.Ego++;

As for Blaze McOrinunderpants...never mind then.

Mon Sep 17
[22:00] Michael: so there you are
[22:01] Michael: eh?
[22:02] Michael: one of those...always online but never there....shame.
[22:02] Michael: thought you might want some help with Amgisco.
Tue Sep 18
[02:42] orinoverlord: With what now? [Offline Message]
[02:42] orinoverlord: And of course here I am. [Offline Message]
[02:42] orinoverlord: This is my Yahoo, isn't it? [Offline Message]
[03:06] orinoverlord: :p [Offline Message]
[10:25] Michael: oh
[10:25] Michael: so it is
[10:25] Michael: OR IS IT?
[10:26] Michael: Amgisco...how could you not know what AmGiSco is?
[10:26] Michael: ITS THE AMERIKAAN GIRL SCOUTS
[14:03] orinoverlord: Why not just refer to it as Adventure Game Studio? Such a website is not deserving of a subculture.
[14:03] Michael: ^_^
[14:03] orinoverlord: Newgrounds, Albino Black Sheep and Jay Is Games deserve a subculture.
[14:04] Michael: we call it AGS for short...and American Girl Scouts has the same initials (although it's not a real organization)...so it's just a joke
[14:04] orinoverlord: Obviously.
[14:04] Michael: wait...Newgrounds deserves a subculture but AGS doesn't???
[14:04] orinoverlord: Yes.
[14:04] Michael: why might I ask?
[14:05] orinoverlord: Newgrounds makes a name for itself, while AGS is just a generic brand adventure game website, usefull editor or no.
[14:05] Michael: so basically what your saying is at this point you've taken on the official position of "Hater" toward AGS?
[14:06] orinoverlord: Not hater.
[14:06] orinoverlord: Simply non-supporter.
[14:07] orinoverlord: Jay Is Games is the adventure site with no editor, and it has a name for itself.
[14:07] Michael: you do realize that I was actually offering to help you
[14:07] orinoverlord: It's all about where the sites are.
[14:07] Michael: but you seem so turned off toward AGS I doubt you even want it at this point
[14:08] orinoverlord: And if you're going to assume the position that I was making an effort to bother you personally as if you're the site itself, I might as well ignore you, stop waisting time and find some one else.
[14:08] Michael: I'm sorry, but what?
[14:09] orinoverlord: You are not the website itself, nor am I making actual jabs at the website, so you have no right to get non-chalantesque with me.
[14:11] Michael: http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=chalantesque http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=nonchalantesque http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=non-chalantesque ...interesting use of made up words...
[14:11] orinoverlord: He who doesn't make up a word to describe what real words cannot is too prudent.
[14:11] Michael: orly?
[14:12] orinoverlord: He who points out the obvious correction of the english language is bombastic.
[14:12] Michael: I think there's definitely real words to describe what's happened
[14:12] *** "orinoverlord" signed off at Tue Sep 18 14:12:22 2007.
[14:12] Michael: you were told simply to tell us what you actually had done
[14:12] Michael: what you had tried
[14:12] Michael: and that we would help you
[14:12] Michael: but you failed yourself
[14:12] Michael: we did not fail you

Apparently "non-chalantesque" would have been defined (if it were a real word) as:

non·chal·an·tesque [non-shal-an-tesk]
  - adjective
  Willing to provide assistance under two conditions. The beneficiary thereof must:
   1. be willing to accept said assistance, and
   2. not be a completely cynical, immature prick.

[Rui 'Trovatore' Pires]

I was too bland on the guy.

Good riddance to bad rubbish.

[LimpingFish]

What an odd saga.

I'd say it was some daring new form of performance art, if I was so inclined.

Which I'm not.

[Rui 'Trovatore' Pires]

I propose to coin a phrase.

From now on, every made up word, one half of which is recognizable and the whole of which doesn't actually exist, shall be a Blazerism.

Come on, you know you're a wanter-to.

[monkey0506]

Wow. This is honestly embarrassing. I was actually so flabbergasted by his ridiculous attempts at sounding more mature by using "big words" that I didn't even realize when he said "non-chalantesque" that he was trying to use the word "nonchalant". Of course, had he actually done so he would have simply reaffirmed the fact that he was/is in fact using words that he does not know what they mean simply for the sake of trying to sound more "grown up". Of course he did so anyway by trying to cover for it.

But yes, I quite like the "Blazerism" idea. It does seem unfortunate though that "Blaze" is so similar to "Blake". I mark it as unfortunate because though Flukeblake (though I guess his name is now Flukezy so the connection is lost) once acted quite as ridiculously as Blaze has done, he has actually calmed down and become a somewhat formidable forum member.

To think that one day a couple years from now we could all be laughing and reminiscing about "the good old days" of Blaze McLeary's n00bdom. Yeah...like that'll ever happen.

[Stupot]

Stop being so bombastic and show us your proclivities.

He who doesn't make up a word to describe what real words cannot is too prudent.

Wrong... He who can't find the word he's looking for and has to make one up is inarticulate.

I propose we mark this rigmarole with a song.
"The Ballad of Blaze McLeary"...
Whoever's in charge of the next Tune Contest should set this as the challenge.

[Radiant]

I propose to coin a phrase.

Rather, I suggest Herostratus therapy.

[lo_res_man]

In all seriousness most school shootings appear to be done by young narcissistic who do it for just such reasons as our friend Herostratus.

[Andail]

I have a non-chalantesque proclivity for locking bombastic threads.