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Yahtzee you legend where are you ??

For some time now i have been trying crack the code of writing the perfect adventure game, and still i have come to no avail. so it has come to my attention to point out a real god of the writers and one who is often overlooked  ***Re Presenting Yahtzee ***

The guy is a genius if you havent already played his games i heavily suggest you do and I'm even being nice enough to supply his link http://www.fullyramblomatic.com/games.htm (http://www.fullyramblomatic.com/games.htm)

As a writer he has the talent of hitting you when you least expect it. and his art style is somewhat phenomenal. what i would really like to do is shake this guys hand again and again

so i raise a glass to yahtzee man, myth, legend in his own pyjamas and big blue cup

Did you finally come out of that rock? Im pretty sure everyone here knows Yahtzee, and yes I agree with you about his delivery in stories.

He's probably the most popular and well known person making original freeware adventure games. Not that he doesn't deserve praise, because he's done some nice stuff and most importantly finished it and got it out there, but he's hardly overlooked!

Oh golly wow! This GUy is just awesome, I've just started playing through 6 Days a Surgeon but its really good. I'm amazed at hoew someone can make words and pictures together.

Good Find Sinsin!

Why the heck did Yahtzee leave the forums?

YOu're right! COme back Yahtzee, we know you want to, we all love you so!

Quote from: Steel Drummer on Wed 11/04/2007 00:13:40
Why the heck did Yahtzee leave the forums?

Here (http://americangirlscouts.org/agswiki/Yahtzee#An_ego) is why.

Finding a reason to leave these forums is like finding a haystack in a pile of needles.

Some days, anyway...

Quoteso it has come to my attention to point out a real god of the writers

Arthur C. Clarke is very well known, actually.

I'm not sure I would want the Y man back. I go to FR regularly, but I also go to the FR forums, and he is still a prick. But he's funny as hell. And Trilby's Notes is the best freeware adventure game I've ever played.

He makes great games, but I would like to see him make a game where more effort is put on the graphics. Thats about the only thing that I would like to see from him. Would be awesome and here's hoping his next game takes a big leap in graphics.

Ahhh and another Yahtzee worship thread pops up.  Damn, I want that guy's power.

I guess I'm in a minority that pretty much ignores his games, somewhat on principle. While 5 Days was one of my first AGS games and it was okay, I have since revoked my support after spending a few minutes on that site you so graciously linked Sinsin :)

i worship you Dave :)
anyone who thanks me personally, not via an automatic response, for purchasing their game is awesome by my books, makes you feel like your support is actually appreciated and not just more money for the pile.
long live Dave Gilbert!

Dave Gilbert is a great game maker because all of his games are unique (most of Yahtzee's games were all from the same series- all that I can recall except for Odysseus Kent ). Who else has made a game where you play as a Rabbi? Dave, you rock!

I'm far too poor (or perhaps lazy) to afford your games, Dave!

I'll have to stick with 'The Bestowers of Eternity.'  :'(

And Dave, you may want his power, but he wants your money.   ;D

I'd much rather give praise to Phil Reed, who needs to make more games.

-MillsJROSS

Rather, give praise to whoever unknown entity who made teh Ace Quest.

I'm not an unknown entity :(

More importantly, Dave doesn't consider himself too good for this community.
Well, not enough to leave, at least.

All yahtzee's games should be converted into awsome movies! And then I mean really awsome, not like how Doom was made into a movie.

Leave it to Uwe Boll. I'm pretty sure that 'Yahtzee Cult' would come to an end pretty much immediatly. ;)

But back to the Yahtzee discussion. Seriously, his games are quite good, but still not perfect. For example, that puzzle in 7DAS when you have to get rid of the captain - in a normal adventure game, we would have considered that a "design suicide" (after all, it's quite similar to the suit puzzle in Outbreak, which I don't think anyone but me knows), but HERE...

Quote from: Disco on Wed 11/04/2007 03:26:31
I guess I'm in a minority that pretty much ignores his games, somewhat on principle. While 5 Days was one of my first AGS games and it was okay, I have since revoked my support after spending a few minutes on that site you so graciously linked Sinsin :)

Seems we're in the same boat Disco.

Quote from: Andail on Wed 11/04/2007 10:37:16
More importantly, Dave doesn't consider himself too good for this community.
Well, not enough to leave, at least.

Posting here is what I call "slumming it." :-D

Seriously, though.  Leave Yahtzee alone.  If he wanted to come here, he'd come here.  He obviously has his reasons.  Please respect them.

And Boyd? HAHAHAHAHA.

I don't ask him to come here... only to sell the rights for his games to an awsome movie producer.

Quote from: Disco on Wed 11/04/2007 03:26:31
I guess I'm in a minority that pretty much ignores his games, somewhat on principle. While 5 Days was one of my first AGS games and it was okay, I have since revoked my support after spending a few minutes on that site you so graciously linked Sinsin :)

Quote from: Chicky on Wed 11/04/2007 12:12:02Seems we're in the same boat Disco.

Do yourself a favor and don't judge the person and the art at the same time. It's as worst as those who say Michael Jackson's songs are crap because he's weird now. Or those refusing to watch any movies with Tom Cruise because he jumped on the couch.

Quote from: Steel Drummer on Wed 11/04/2007 03:31:55
Dave Gilbert is a great game maker because all of his games are unique...

This is funny considering 2 of Yahtzee most recents projects were mix of adventure and space trading simulator, mix of adventure and platformer, and one of this unreleased project was an AGS life/dating sim.

Quote from: Steel Drummer on Wed 11/04/2007 03:31:55(most of Yahtzee's games were all from the same series- all that I can recall except for Odysseus Kent ). Who else has made a game where you play as a Rabbi? Dave, you rock!

This is funny considering Dave Gilbert released a lot less games than Yahtzee and 2 of Dave's projects are from the Bestower/Blackwell series and he already announced he'd release 2 more Blackwell games to make it a trilogy.

Quote from: The Orator on Wed 11/04/2007 04:22:15And Dave, you may want his power, but he wants your money.   ;D

Now THAT is funny! :D

Quote from: BlueSkirt on Wed 11/04/2007 14:58:32
This is funny considering Dave Gilbert released a lot less games than Yahtzee and 2 of Dave's projects are from the Bestower/Blackwell series and he already announced he'd release 2 more Blackwell games to make it a trilogy.

Three Blackwell games?  Who said anything about three Blackwell games?

I'm making five. :p

And yes, I want all your money.  I have a coffee habit that needs supporting.  And a dog. 

If you keep making good games you'll arrive at a similar position as yahtzee, Dave, quite rapidly. All the better if you keep the somethingawfulisms down unlike him, and therefore not hurt your games by your personality.

Personally, I think the Yahtzee phenomenon (equal amounts of praise and slight disdain) come from the fact that his name is an AWESOME dice game.

Bt

I've just read the wiki and it's one of the funniest things I have ever read. Like an online soap opera. Brilliant!

His games are pretty good, but I never really got into them. They were all the same essentially too. After 5 days, the rest of the series didn't advance much in technology or scope.

Quote from: Helm on Wed 11/04/2007 16:21:22
If you keep making good games you'll arrive at a similar position as yahtzee

...and you base that on what?

Personal opinion maybe ? ;)

Or maybe if Dave keeps making good games he'll be able to afford a trip to Brisbane, and hence be in the same position...

Quote from: Akatosh on Wed 11/04/2007 17:53:50

Quote from: Helm on Wed 11/04/2007 16:21:22
If you keep making good games you'll arrive at a similar position as yahtzee

...and you base that on what?

What an unexpected manifestation of epistemological clarity. What do you base anything on, Akatosh?

Yahtzee's games are professional and clean and made in a coherent style, which makes them very playable.
Still, I can't understand how people consider them to be literary masterpieces plot-wise. They seem extremely generic and superficial to me. Like cheap horror or detective novels that you'll find near the counter in a supermarket.

I played his latest game, and it was very nice, with well executed parser-puzzles and a mundane setting, until the horror-part started. Which was way too early.
Blood and skeletons everywhere, sudden flashes of nightmare visions, a diary with increasingly distressful entries, until the last entry is interrupted mid-page with something violent and bloody OMG can it be more original?

Furthermore, he hasn't managed to take the shortest step towards improving his graphics or at least adding something new stylistically, making you feel like you're watching the same 5 screens over and over again.

I think it's close the thing they have in oscar awards. The movies usually aren't very good, but people like them because they're entertaining or something, so they win. I agree I had a great time playing his games through, but ok, they were not any better than most games I've played.

QuoteStill, I can't understand how people consider them to be literary masterpieces plot-wise. They seem extremely generic and superficial to me. Like cheap horror or detective novels that you'll find near the counter in a supermarket.

I love you, Andail.


BOYD, where's the love for me?  I thanked you, too! :(

I'm going to go cry now.

QuoteStill, I can't understand how people consider them to be literary masterpieces plot-wise.

some - and same - people consider Final Fantasy 6 or 7 to be amazing games in terms of plot and characterization. They just have - comparably to me - lower expectations, that's ok.

Akatosh: I base than on my long gaze within the innards of the goat I sacrificed to the dark lords last night. Seer of visions be me.

Ah, one day I hope to be worshipped like you guys.  :D

Right, seriously, what is the purpose of this thread?

To tell Yahtzee he's great? He knows that, and besides, he's got a forum praising him, so he rarely glances at these forums if he ever does, why praise him, why call him back? If he wanted to come back, he would. And yes, he's a bit of a prick, and yes, his games seem a bit corner shop-esque, but they're enjoyable, people like them, and he's good at telling stories.

Of course, some people like him, but hate is games, some people don't like him, but love his game, some people love everything about him, and some people hate everything about him. And frankly, I seriously doubt anyone is going to change their minds, so why make a thread?

Now then, would a mod please lock this thread and save CJ some money?

Quotewhy make a thread?

Because no-one has for a good three days or so. Plus he's probably the biggest independent promoter of AGS. And he wins all the awards. There is always much to debate about that man. As there is Phil Reed, the missing C Leksutin, the mysterious whereabouts of The_Butcher, original french-man Jeremie Lumbroso, infamous Erkki Lindpere and the not so distant yet MIA Jannar.....but those people aren't necessarily the biggest influences in AGS at the moment. Yahtzee still is.

Quote from: Dan_N_GameZ on Wed 11/04/2007 19:51:10
his games seem a bit corner shop-esque,

What does that mean?

Quote from: m0ds on Wed 11/04/2007 21:27:03
As there is Phil Reed, the missing C Leksutin, the mysterious whereabouts of The_Butcher, original french-man Jeremie Lumbroso, infamous Erkki Lindpere and the not so distant yet MIA Jannar.....

I kind of feel like a n00b here but I don't have a clue who any of those are.

I call praise where i think it is due      ...
In this case it is due (In my opinion) most people start making games and loose themselves part way through and never finish them, This is where the guy needs credit i suppose as the way he designs his story     as predictable as they may seem is effective and easily constructed

Quotefrom: Steel Drummer on Today at 03:31
(most of Yahtzee's games were all from the same series- all that I can recall except for Odysseus Kent ). Who else has made a game where you play as a Rabbi? Dave, you rock!

ermm  1213    The universe of fantabulous wonderment and rob blanc are not in the same series   there is differenciation

Quote from: markbilly on Wed 11/04/2007 16:49:18
I've just read the wiki and it's one of the funniest things I have ever read. Like an online soap opera. Brilliant!

His games are pretty good, but I never really got into them. They were all the same essentially too. After 5 days, the rest of the series didn't advance much in technology or scope.

Erm most of his games are set in different time areas   
the past                                    5 days
the present                              trilbys notes
the not so distant future          6 days
the future                                 1213 7 days

Also different psycological areas

Monkey island nostalgia :      Trials of odyseus kent
Horror / thriller               :      Trilby ///// Defoe Series
ETC 

I am not in a pissed mood i am just highlighting my beliefs and the thread is simply here to Re promote a legend in AGS long live Yahtzee
             
                                                                 and yes the dice game freaking rocks

Quote from: Radiant on Wed 11/04/2007 22:59:43

Quote from: m0ds on Wed 11/04/2007 21:27:03
As there is Phil Reed, the missing C Leksutin, the mysterious whereabouts of The_Butcher, original french-man Jeremie Lumbroso, infamous Erkki Lindpere and the not so distant yet MIA Jannar.....

I kind of feel like a n00b here but I don't have a clue who any of those are.

Some say that he shot JFK, and that his blade could move a man from life to death in less than 10 microseconds. All we know is, he was called C Leksutin.

Yahtzee doesn't mean shit to me.

I'm glad he's dead FAT!

Gone. Whatever.

Oh come on, don't wish death on anyone, even in such a roundabout way. Let's not be another cynical part of the internet where such words escape from our mouths unchecked. It doesn't lead to anything good.

Seriously though, I admire Yahtzee's ability to produce work at a constant rate.

I have to say I couldn't be considered a fan, being as I've only played one of his games through to the end, but I understand his contribution to the early AGS scene.

As to him being a prick or not, it matters little to me. Plenty of people on these forums could be considered pricks at one point or another, myself included. I'm not in the habit of judging somebody's work based on my personal feelings about them, nor do I subscribe to the whole "We have been abandoned! I downloaded his games, the bastard!" nonsense.

Yahtzee does what he does, and that's fine. He doesn't need to keep an open dialog between himself and the public if he doesn't wish to do so. He doesn't need to be on these forums as he has his own, were his acolytes can gather and praise/abuse him.

And that's fine, too.

Oh, and I wish him a long and happy life.

I think that Dave Gilbert has become the next Yahtzee (so to speak). Hopefully it won't get to your head, Dave.

Yahtzee, we worship you, you created us!

Seriously, I just can't understand these "Please come back, Yahtzee!" topics. As I know, Adventure Game Studio is a tool that helps us make adventure (and other kind of) games, and the Adventure Game Studio Community is a place where the AGS users and other adventure players MAY meet if they wish. There is not such a rule that every AGS user must be a member of the AGS community, is there? If someone doesn't wish to be inside the community (or wants to have his own community), just don't disturb him.

Still, seriously...we need the third installment of Larry Vales.

As to Yahtzee...I've played most of his early work, and a bit of his newer stuff. What he has is a knack for polishing his games. His ideas, while not original, are usually well made (some of his dialog could use some reworking, though). I really just wonder where he gets the time to do most of what he does. I just see a pale skinny guy chained to his computer whenever I think of Yahtzee.

Dave is another entity, and shouldn't really be compared with Yahtzee. Also, I like Dave, and therefore am more inclined to like his games.

-MillsJROSS

Quote from: MillsJROSS on Thu 12/04/2007 01:09:59
wonder where he gets the time to do most of what he does. I just see a pale skinny guy chained to his computer whenever I think of Yahtzee.

Most people would think of CJ also.  :)

Phil Reed converted to the Church of Macintology. That means no Larry Vales three. Sad :(

Quote from: Domino on Thu 12/04/2007 01:17:06

Quote from: MillsJROSS on Thu 12/04/2007 01:09:59
wonder where he gets the time to do most of what he does. I just see a pale skinny guy chained to his computer whenever I think of Yahtzee.

Most people would think of CJ also.  :)

...and they would be correct  :P

Seriously, does anyone think these discussions will solve anything?

PS: By corner shop-esque I meant the subjects are a bit common, used, like something you'd find at a corner shop for two euros.

I agree Dan, Yahtzee probably hasn't even seen this thread, so how is going to make him come back? Who cares if he comes back? He's still making games.

Of course, Yahtzee would have received the the AGS Lifetime achievement award by now... if he wasn't black.

Yeah, and an atheist!

The heathen!

Quoteas to him being a prick or not, it matters little to me. Plenty of people on these forums could be considered pricks at one point or another, myself included.

But I still love you, LimpingFish!

Ugh, who cares.

OMG!!! YAHTZEE IS GONE?!!11!!!1 NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NOW WHO WILL MAKE TEH GOOD GAMES WE PLAY?!1!1?!!

Yahtzee is not god, he just makes games, and if you like them then thats good, but he doesn't need to come back here and he doesn't have to do anything for you guys.

May this thread be locked and sentenced to life in prison.  :D

Quote from: ProgZmax on Thu 12/04/2007 18:11:26
But I still love you, LimpingFish!

Right back at ya!  :-*

And to Yahtzee, if he's reading this; Never forget that pricks are people too. Though I know you not, I know of you. And in the end, isn't that what we all strive for?

Isn't it?


Is it? :-\

just to point out i was not trying to get him back    at all i was just pointing out the talent and as i said before i give credit where its due...   
   other people also fall into this category   like   

Darth mandarb     
Progzmax
  SSH    I love Typos
   Dave gilbert
    Andail

God my tongue is getting brown  ;D

I worship 2mam2.
Don't you all?

Quote from: Sinsin on Thu 12/04/2007 22:45:02
just to point out i was not trying to get him back    at all i was just pointing out the talent and as i said before i give credit where its due...   
   other people also fall into this category   like   

Darth mandarb     
Progzmax
  Shh
   Dave gilbert
    Andail

Most of which are moderators. Go figure. And who the heck is Shh?

its super scottish hero the guy that created the walkcycle generator and the PMX series

i think hes scottish

More like Super Hottish Hero :=

That would be SSH.

Quote from: Czar on Thu 12/04/2007 23:03:39
I worship 2mam2.
Don't you all?

Who?  :=

Shh is fine. It's better when he is.

:D

Quote from: Sinsin on Fri 13/04/2007 03:31:13
its super scottish hero the guy that created the walkcycle generator and the
PMX series
i think hes scottish

With a username like SuperScottishHero? No.. Really?

lol

Just to make things perfectly clear...

Quote from: YahtzeeMaybe I prefer making games to sitting around talking about them.

And couldn't you have just registered on his forum and praise him?

Quote from: YahtzeeMaybe I prefer making games to sitting around talking about them.

A commendable attitude to an extent.

Quote from: Helm on Fri 13/04/2007 16:36:02

Quote from: YahtzeeMaybe I prefer making games to sitting around talking about them.

A commendable attitude to an extent.

It is true the amount of time ive sat there and drifted back to this site  (as glorius as it is )
mid game to talk about silly wooden spoons ??? what the hell am i talking about ..

get on with yer game Sin