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Title: Can you outsmart your computer?
Post by: Gregjazz on Wed 09/02/2005 05:49:49
I found this interesting website a while ago:

http://y.20q.net:8095/

It's the simple game of Twenty Questions, played against your computer.

I'm actually quite amazed at how close the computer can get to the answer and how efficient it is. Try it out for yourself, and I'd be interested in hearing your results.
Title: Re: Can you outsmart your computer?
Post by: auhsor on Wed 09/02/2005 05:58:43
Yay, It guessed a tissue box in 18 questions. I've done this before, it was posted on a forum somewhere (may have even been here ???). Its pretty cool.
Title: Re: Can you outsmart your computer?
Post by: Scummbuddy on Wed 09/02/2005 06:25:05
I bought the handheld version (looks like a flattened egg) for ScubaChicVB for Christmas. We had a blast trying to beat it, but it got eerily good at guessing. We even joked as to whisper what it was that we were trying to have it guess since we were beginning to consider it had a microphone. Like, it got Palm tree, when we would have accepted 'tree', but were hoping for Palm Tree.  I think the hardest thing we've done, and hadn't gotten the appropriate answer was, Harp, and Pizza.

It got Imu, for crying out loud...
Title: Re: Can you outsmart your computer?
Post by: Timosity on Wed 09/02/2005 06:31:10
It has been here before, but it's probably slipped off the board

I was thinking 'Soft Drink' it eventually got it after 28 goes so I won
well it did come up with soda-pop but I guess that's just a US name for it.

You were thinking of soda-pop.
Does it help accomplish tasks? You said Maybe, I say No. [some have caffeine, that can help]
Does it come from a plant? You said Yes, I say No. [some have plant materials in them]
Does it get really hot? You said Sometimes, I say No. [I left some in my car the other day and it got really hot]
Could it be found in a classroom? You said Sometimes, I say No. [I used to have it in classrooms all the time]
Does it come from trees? You said Sometimes, I say No. [trees, plants yeah sometimes]
Would you eat its fruit? You said Sometimes, I say No. [well I've eaten oranges]



I also tried "Pen" and I won

You were thinking of a pen.
Is it shiny? You said Sometimes, I say No. [I've seen shiny pens]
Can it be washed? You said Probably, I say No. [it might not work after but you can wash them]
Is it a metal? You said Partly, I say No. [most are partly metal]
Does it get wet? You said Sometimes, I say No. [depends how you think about it, the ink is wet, or you could just put it in water]
Can it be painted? You said Yes, I say No. [sure, you can paint a pen]
Does it have a hole in it? You said Yes, I say No. [well then, how does the ink come out]
Can you open it? You said Probably, I say No. [how do you replace the ink]
Does it go inside other things? You said Sometimes, I say No. [I once had a pencil case]
Can you see through it? You said Sometimes, I say No. [I have a clear one right infront of me]
Does it burn? You said Sometimes, I say No. [anything burns if you get the temperature right]
Does it shine? You said Sometimes, I say No. [of course some shine]



It's more fun making fun of it, you'd think the AI would have learnt some basic objects by now.
Title: Re: Can you outsmart your computer?
Post by: HillBilly on Wed 09/02/2005 06:57:46
I was going for hockey mask, and it guessed helmet on the 20th question. 3 questions later it managed to guess mask. Pretty good.
Title: Re: Can you outsmart your computer?
Post by: Bombadil on Wed 09/02/2005 07:50:54
He did not gess that I was thinking on a CD... And then he said a bunch of crap for not asuming he is not the smartest... ^^
Title: Re: Can you outsmart your computer?
Post by: SpacePirateCaine on Wed 09/02/2005 08:03:05
So far "Movie poster" and "Cheese" it wasn't able to guess, but I suppose the big fallback is that a good many of these questions are quite subjective, like 'is cheese hard?' There's no option for 'Sometimes', though I suppose that would give it an edge, as it'd have more 'options' that way. I'm going to keep at it for a while and see if I can come up with something it has no clue about.
Title: Re: Can you outsmart your computer?
Post by: on Wed 09/02/2005 08:43:22
it got diving board in 19 questions.
Title: Re: Can you outsmart your computer?
Post by: Damien on Wed 09/02/2005 09:22:05
QuoteHe did not gess that I was thinking on a CD..
I guess it depends of the questions it asked you, here's my try at the same thing:
QuoteI am guessing that it is a CD-ROM?
11.        Can it make a sound? No.
10.        Does it have a hole in it? Yes.
9.        Is it found on a desk? Yes.
8.        Does it help accomplish tasks? Yes.
7.        Was it used over 100 years ago? No.
6.        Is it shiny? Yes.
5.        Is it soft? No.
4.        Do you hold it when you use it? No.
3.        Is it heavier than a pound of butter? No.
2.        Is it multicolored? Yes.
1.        It is classified as Other.
Title: Re: Can you outsmart your computer?
Post by: Haddas on Wed 09/02/2005 09:23:30
is there any alternative link? I can't seem to open it :'(

EDIT: Nevermind, got it open anywho
Title: Re: Can you outsmart your computer?
Post by: on Wed 09/02/2005 10:01:12
It asked "Is he a n00b?"
I answered "yes"
it said "I'm guessing he is Daniel MacPherson"
*zing*
Title: Re: Can you outsmart your computer?
Post by: DGMacphee on Wed 09/02/2005 10:16:14
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Title: Re: Can you outsmart your computer?
Post by: on Wed 09/02/2005 12:23:31
Pretty darned nifty.  I took 25 to do meatloaf, got furniture polish after 28 (but guessed wax, damned close), Hamster only took 10.  Also impressive, Zombie in 19.
Title: Re: Can you outsmart your computer?
Post by: Paper Carnival on Wed 09/02/2005 12:49:10
Wow, it actually works! It found kitty cat in 19

Edit: I just saw that a cat is a popular word, so I said something random... A headset. It got it in 18 questions!!!!
Title: Re: Can you outsmart your computer?
Post by: Ashen on Wed 09/02/2005 12:52:54
I tried 'Cat' as well, and let it win when it guessed 'kitty cat', but it also has 'cat' as an option.
Anyway, I won! But it nearly had me at 29 questions:
Quote
I am guessing that it is a ladle(scoop/spoon)?
Yes , Ã,  No Ã, , Close
29. Ã,  Ã, I guess that it is a tea cup? Close. Ã, 

I was thinking 'mug'. 'Coffee mug' was on the 'Is it one of these...' list it gave me - strange that it thought a ladle was more like a teacup than a mug is.

On a similar note has anyone tried this:
http://www.smalltime.com/dictator.html
'Guess the Dictator or Sit-Com Character'. It's surprisingly good at it, too.
Title: Re: Can you outsmart your computer?
Post by: Haddas on Wed 09/02/2005 12:56:36
"Get your mind out of the gutter! I am not allowed to talk about stuff like this, but, I am guessing that it has something to do with sex?" :-X
Title: Re: Can you outsmart your computer?
Post by: HillBilly on Wed 09/02/2005 13:02:11
I outsmarted it! yay!

It didn't have "meat cleaver". hah!

This was kind of weird, by the way:

Is it green or black?
Yes ,   No  , Unknown, Irrelevant, Sometimes, Maybe,
Probably, Doubtful, Usually, Depends, Rarely, Partly
Title: Re: Can you outsmart your computer?
Post by: jetxl on Wed 09/02/2005 13:07:44
What kind of A.I. doesn't know the word "valvecapsule".
Humans-1 : computers-0.
Title: Re: Can you outsmart your computer?
Post by: Haddas on Wed 09/02/2005 13:19:43
I am guessing that it is a question mark?

Yes ,   No  , Close

19.        Can you find it in a church? No.
18.        Does it come in many varieties? No.
17.        Is it straight? No.
16.        Is it usually visible? Yes.
15.        Can you get information by using it? Yes.
14.        Is it a common household object? No.
13.        Does it use numbers? No.
12.        Does it help accomplish tasks? Yes.
11.        Is it hard? No.
10.        Would you use it daily? Yes.
9.        Is it flexible? No.
8.        Is it found on a desk? No.
7.        Is it comforting? No.
6.        Does it have writing on it? No.
5.        Can it be washed? No.
4.        Could you send it in the mail? Yes.
3.        Is it made of metal? No.
2.        Is it used for entertainment? No.
1.        It is classified as Other.

...I thought questionmark ;< thought I'd win for sure!

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29.        I guess that it is a cyclops? Close.
28.        Is it killed for its fur? Rarely.
27.        Does it have big ears? Yes.
26.        Is it considered valuable? No.
25.        I guess that it is an erne (a long-winged sea eagle)? No.
24.        Does it stand on two legs? Yes.
23.        Is it ferocious? Yes.
22.        Is it tall? No.
21.        Does it live near water? Sometimes.
20.        I guess that it is a bobcat? No.
19.        Does it dig holes? No.
18.        Does it live in the jungle? No.
17.        I guess that it is a yeti? Close.
16.        Does it have short fur? Yes.
15.        Does it have arms? Yes.
14.        I guess that it is a polar bear? No.
13.        Is it white? Yes.
12.        Are there many different sorts of it? No.
11.        Does it grunt? Usually.
10.        Does it eat fish? Yes.
9.        Does it come in different colors? No.
8.        Does it roar? Yes.
7.        Does it have a long tail? No.
6.        Does it have wide feet? Yes.
5.        Does it have fangs? Probably.
4.        Is it dangerous? Probably.
3.        Does it have fur? Probably.
2.        Can you see it in a zoo? Yes.
1.        It is classified as Animal.

How on earth didn't it know that? I won. I was thinking about "your momma"
Title: Re: Can you outsmart your computer?
Post by: Kinoko on Wed 09/02/2005 13:33:50
Holy crap, it got mine first time ^_^ Admittedly, a fishing rod isn't very hard but still, I'm impressed.
Title: Re: Can you outsmart your computer?
Post by: Scummbuddy on Wed 09/02/2005 14:17:15
The handheld version has a yes, no, sometimes, and unknown button. And yes, if you think too hard about some questions you may be screwing up the system. Like, "harp" -> do you use it at work?    well... some people do... so yes. yeah, not even .01 people in the world use it at work,so no.
Title: Re: Can you outsmart your computer?
Post by: Domino on Wed 09/02/2005 14:23:52
I also tried a CD, and what do you know.  The computer guessed  it after only 11 questions.  I'm gonna have to go back and try something different.

That was really cool and i never thought the computer would be able to figure it out.  I'll never think of my work computer the same way again.  :)

Shawn

edit: i tried it again and was thinking of a rubber band, but the computer guessed Toupee.  Now that's funny. :-)
Title: Re: Can you outsmart your computer?
Post by: Ghormak on Wed 09/02/2005 15:22:54
I tried 'cat' too, and it asked many things like "Is it brown?", "Is it striped?" and "Is it black"? I answered 'irrelevant' to all of these (because as you may or may not be aware of, cats come in many different colours), but after it guessed correctly, it disagreed with me on all of those colour answers. Said 'yes' on them all.

Why answer yes to the question "Is a cat brown?"
Title: Re: Can you outsmart your computer?
Post by: viktor on Wed 09/02/2005 15:36:45
try to think about something sex related. That's good for a few laughs.
Title: Re: Can you outsmart your computer?
Post by: Pizzaman on Wed 09/02/2005 17:16:02
One of my programming assignments, we had to program something just like this.  It starts off with an empty list of things.  Then as you play, it will adapt and ask questions and store it into a database.  It grows.  Its pretty cool.
Right now, mine only does animals.

-Pizzaman
Title: Re: Can you outsmart your computer?
Post by: Pelican on Wed 09/02/2005 21:57:46
I think I tried a CD case on it a while ago, and stumped it good.

It's kinda amusing though. The answers/opinions in its database, come from people playing the game. Makes you wonder what they were on when they played it, for it to have such daft answers!  ::)
Title: Re: Can you outsmart your computer?
Post by: Gregjazz on Wed 09/02/2005 22:34:17
Quote from: viktor on Wed 09/02/2005 15:36:45
try to think about something sex related. That's good for a few laughs.

I believe it is censored, unless you sign up as a member.
Title: Re: Can you outsmart your computer?
Post by: Einoo on Thu 10/02/2005 00:13:55
Quote from: Damien on Wed 09/02/2005 09:22:05
QuoteHe did not gess that I was thinking on a CD..
I guess it depends of the questions it asked you, here's my try at the same thing:
QuoteI am guessing that it is a CD-ROM?
11.   Ã,     Can it make a sound? No...

CDs make sound all the time! What do you call "Playing a CD?"

[MORE] Also, I played it and it got "Baked Potato" (mine was potato) after 30 guesses. It was close though, it came up with "Mashed Potatoes" after 20. Spooky.

[STILL MORE] It also got "Sea Serpent" after 20 guesses (I was thinking "Loch Ness Monster").
Title: Re: Can you outsmart your computer?
Post by: Sylpher on Thu 10/02/2005 00:22:46
The cd itself makes no sound at all. A cd player reads the 1's and 0's off the cd and it produces sound so the answer is applicable.
Title: Re: Can you outsmart your computer?
Post by: Einoo on Thu 10/02/2005 00:29:35
Still more! Here is a transcript of me doing "telephone" (I won):
QuoteI am guessing that it is a cell-phone?
Ã, YesÃ, , Ã, Ã, NoÃ, Ã, ,  Close 

29.
Ã, Ã, 
I guess that it is a walkie talkie? Close.

28.
Ã, Ã, 
Does it contain words? Irrelevant.

27.
Ã, Ã, 
Does it break if dropped? Probably.

26.
Ã, Ã, 
Does it use numbers? Yes.

25.
Ã, Ã, 
Does it bring joy to people? Depends.

24.
Ã, Ã, 
I guess that it is a phone call? Close.

23.
Ã, Ã, 
Is it black? Irrelevant.

22.
Ã, Ã, 
Is it heavier than a pound of butter? No.

21.
Ã, Ã, 
Do most people use this daily? Yes.

20.
Ã, Ã, 
I guess that it is a modem? Close.

19.
Ã, Ã, 
Does it beep? Yes.

18.
Ã, Ã, 
Can you get information by using it? Yes.

17.
Ã, Ã, 
Would you use it in the dark? Irrelevant.

16.
Ã, Ã, 
Is it flexible? No.

15.
Ã, Ã, 
I guess that it is a telephone headset? Close.

14.
Ã, Ã, 
Does it come in specific sizes? No.

13.
Ã, Ã, 
Can it be used to talk to others? Yes.

12.
Ã, Ã, 
Would you give it as a gift? No.

11.
Ã, Ã, 
Does it display information? No.

10.
Ã, Ã, 
Does it make noise? Usually.

9.
Ã, Ã, 
Do you hold it when you use it? Yes.

8.
Ã, Ã, 
Does it have buttons? Yes.

7.
Ã, Ã, 
Was it used over 100 years ago? Doubtful.

6.
Ã, Ã, 
Can it fit in an envelope? No.

5.
Ã, Ã, 
Does it usually have four corners? Irrelevant.

4.
Ã, Ã, 
Is it something you bring along? Irrelevant.

3.
Ã, Ã, 
Is it found on a desk? Yes.

2.
Ã, Ã, 
Is it smaller than a loaf of bread? Yes.

1.
Ã, Ã, 
It is classified as Other.

But on the "You Won" screen, the first option was "telephone". Here are the things:

QuoteDoes it usually have four corners? You said Irrelevant, I say Yes.
Does it display information? You said No, I say Yes.
Would you give it as a gift? You said No, I say Yes.
Does it come in specific sizes? You said No, I say Probably.
Would you use it in the dark? You said Irrelevant, I say Yes.
Is it heavier than a pound of butter? You said No, I say Yes.
Is it black? You said Irrelevant, I say Yes.
Does it bring joy to people? You said Depends, I say Yes.

Once again, the "cat problem". You know, when the answers to color were Yes when they should have been Irrelevant.
Title: Re: Can you outsmart your computer?
Post by: Einoo on Thu 10/02/2005 00:33:31
Bet you didn't know THESE things about a pie:

QuoteUncommon Knowledge about a pie
Do people own it as a pet?Ã,  I say Probably.
Can it save your life?Ã,  I say Yes.
Do you put things in it?Ã,  I say Yes.
Does it win races?Ã,  I say Probably.
Does it ring?Ã,  I say Yes.
Is it a vegetarian?Ã,  I say Probably.
Can it be used in a pie?Ã,  I say Yes.
Does it eat grass?Ã,  I say Yes.
Does it have wings?Ã,  I say Probably.
Does it serve a purpose?Ã,  I say No.
Does it live above ground?Ã,  I say Probably.
Does it live in mountains?Ã,  I say Probably.
Does it have a long nose?Ã,  I say Yes.
Can it be trained to obey commands?Ã,  I say Yes.
Can it be used to talk to others?Ã,  I say Yes.
Is it fuzzy?Ã,  I say Probably.

Since it gets information from people, there are some really wacked-out people out there. However, it is true that it can be used in a pie.  ;)  ::)
Title: Re: Can you outsmart your computer?
Post by: Einoo on Thu 10/02/2005 01:11:08
I was thinking of stupidity.

QuoteSimilar Objects
hate (hatred, dislike), a headache, anger, sadness, a question, a war, the wind, depression, an earthquake, calculus (mathematics), a catapult, lighter fluid

Wow. It is similar to some of these things (like a headache and war(yes, I'm a Democrat)), but completely different from others (like calculus (unless ypu're a student), a question, an earthquake, and lighter fluid (WTF???))

Some people ARE weird, but some people are clever. and some are philosophers.

Okay, really, I'm done posting now.

Really.

OK, maybe.
Title: Re: Can you outsmart your computer?
Post by: Gregjazz on Thu 10/02/2005 01:52:31
Quote from: Pelican on Wed 09/02/2005 21:57:46
I think I tried a CD case on it a while ago, and stumped it good.

It's kinda amusing though. The answers/opinions in its database, come from people playing the game. Makes you wonder what they were on when they played it, for it to have such daft answers!  ::)

A while back I tried both CD and CD case and it guessed both correctly.
Title: Re: Can you outsmart your computer?
Post by: Ozwalled on Thu 10/02/2005 02:53:23
I remember when I thought I'd stump it with bongo drums. It GOT it exactly in 18 guesses... not just drums, not bongos, not tom-toms, bongo freakin' drums.

I swear it cheats and reads my brain.  :-X
Title: Re: Can you outsmart your computer?
Post by: AGA on Thu 10/02/2005 09:19:12
I chose a DVD. It failed. DVD was in the 'was it this...?' list at the end after it gave up though.
Title: Re: Can you outsmart your computer?
Post by: Mr. Mozzarella on Thu 10/02/2005 11:08:32
I chose a dictionary. It asked 24 questions but didn't get it right.  :P
But in the end it offered Book, Encyclopedia and Thesaurus (among others)
Title: Re: Can you outsmart your computer?
Post by: Ali on Thu 10/02/2005 11:17:56
I beat it with 'combination lock', but it's beaten me many times before. Plus 'lock' was one of the 'was it?' list afterwards.
Title: Re: Can you outsmart your computer?
Post by: Nostradamus on Thu 10/02/2005 17:58:31
I beat the PC in the first time with "deodorant"

am guessing that it is hair spray?
Yes ,   No  , Close
29.    I guess that it is aftershave? Close. 
28.    Can it be refilled? No. 
27.    Do most people use this daily? Yes. 
26.    Can you smell it? Yes. 
25.    I guess that it is nail polish remover? No. 
24.    Does it come in a box? No. 
23.    Can you open it? Yes. 
22.    Does it go inside other things? No. 
21.    Is it heavier than a pound of butter? No. 
20.    I guess that it is a dumbbell (exercise weights)? No. 
19.    Does it contain words? No. 
18.    Can it affect you (cause an effect to you)? Yes. 
17.    Can you put something into it? No. 
16.    Is it straight? No. 
15.    Do you use it at work? No. 
14.    Is it black? No. 
13.    Is it larger than a microwave oven (or bread box)? No. 
12.    Does it have a hole in it? No. 
11.    Can it make a sound? No. 
10.    Does it have writing on it? Yes. 
9.    Can it be washed? Yes. 
8.    Would you find it in an office? No. 
7.    Is it something you bring along? No. 
6.    Was it invented? Yes. 
5.    Is it hard? Irrelevant. 
4.    Does it usually have four corners? No. 
3.    Is it white? No. 
2.    Is it usually colorful? No. 
1.    It is classified as Other.
?


Title: Re: Can you outsmart your computer?
Post by: Nostradamus on Thu 10/02/2005 18:02:30
Then it game some options and deodorant was one of them,  I clicked and got this:

Uncommon Knowledge about deodorant
Does it roll? I say Yes.
Does it have a spine? I say Probably.
Is it transparent? I say No.
Does it have a hard outer shell? I say Yes.
Does it have fangs? I say Yes.
Can you use it at school? I say Yes.
Can it do tricks? I say Yes.
Do people own it as a pet? I say Yes.
Can it speak? I say Yes.
Can it growl? I say Yes.
Does it like to run? I say Yes.
Does it eat fish? I say Probably.
Is it healthy? I say Yes.
Do you look at it? I say Doubtful.
Is it colorful? I say Yes.
Is it used in travel? I say Yes.

And it said the answers to the questions changes according to popular opinios of those who play the game.

And for what I know, Deodorants do NOT eat fish!
Title: Re: Can you outsmart your computer?
Post by: Dart on Thu 10/02/2005 21:42:13
Heh, I beat this game on my first try. After 29 guesses, it still couldn't guess what I was thinking of: a magnifying glass. It wasn't even on the list of similiar objects.

Whoo, I'm smarter than a computer.
Title: Re: Can you outsmart your computer?
Post by: sergiocornaga on Fri 11/02/2005 09:03:31
I won, cause a wacom tablet is not in its database. Its pretty cool, though- it managed to get manga. I was thinking of a Sandman comic, but thats still right.
Title: Re: Can you outsmart your computer?
Post by: Babar on Fri 11/02/2005 17:02:24
Mwahahaha... I won!
I was thinking idiot, but it took it 30 questions to guess fool. Although it DID guess drunk.
I hope this program never inhabits a robot...it says that fools can be hunted, fit in your wallet, and can't bear young.
Title: Re: Can you outsmart your computer?
Post by: Timosity on Sun 13/02/2005 07:36:26
You were thinking of something to do with sex.
Is it white? You said Unknown, I say No.
Does it squirm? You said Yes, I say No.
Do you make something with it? You said Probably, I say No.
Does a basketball player use it? You said Probably, I say No.


It also told me to get my mind out of the gutter.

so I went a bit clinical changed body parts and it didn't get it



You were thinking of a urethra.
You said it is classified as Animal, I say Other.
Does it sweat? You said No, I say Yes.
Can you put something into it? You said Yes, I say No.
Can you make sounds with it ? You said Yes, I say No.
Does it make sound? You said Yes, I say No.
Do you open and close it? You said Yes, I say No.
Does it smell bad? You said Probably, I say No