Champions Competition Idea?

calacver · Sun 21/05/2006 21:21:57

Okay this is kinda a weird challenge idea. But the idea is to make it more long term, like two months or so. It should be invitation only. Say a certain important member like someone involved that's been here for a long time could host it.Ã,Â And it should only happen once a year.

The idea is to invite the best background artists and best sprite artists and then have them challenge sort of in a champion of champions challenge. Have AGS's best bg artists go up against eachother in a specific challenge. Then they can also as they do it sortof explain the processes used etc. It could be a great learning experience for the rest of us seeing all the greats strutting their stuff. Then everyone can vote on a winner. For bg artists, i guess those most consistent in game making and the challenges, loominous, big brother, anarcho, sektor 13, scotch, mrcolossal, helm, neil dhuma, fovmester, bernie, darth mandarb, increator, krysis etc. It could be fun.

For sprite artists, the best of the best (IMO) big brother, krysis, helm, mrcolossal, stefano, anarcho, progzmax, bernie, darth mandarb, increator. Don't have too much people entering, and those entering may not vote. And must be invited. And I think a long-time member could host this. Sort of like CJ champions challenge.

So all us can learn so much and see one hell of a challenge. It could happen once a year. I would love to follow something like this.

What do you think? It would be in the spirit of fun and learning for AGS in general.

This is of course only if the best people want to.

Gregjazz · Sun 21/05/2006 21:47:29

Sounds pretty fun... though I'd say have the "Champions" nominated--voted for by the public AGS community. Otherwise feelings could get hurt...

But I like the idea of having a bigger, longer-term contest in which all of the entries would be top-notch... it'd be fun to see what people come up with.

Nacho · Sun 21/05/2006 21:48:13

Sounds good, like a nice dream... But this "dream" has been tried to make true before and never worked.

calacver · Sun 21/05/2006 21:52:14

it has been tried?

Anyways, i think it would be great for AGS and lots of fun to see such a challenge.

I agree the names should be voted on, for example i forgot to mention danclarke.

Krysis · Sun 21/05/2006 22:03:40

I can name a few too... But I won't. This choosing who'sÃ,Â good and who isn't sounds abit "nazi". I don't know. Let's call it a pro contest and allow every guy who thinks he can measure up take his part in the challenge. Or not.

Akumayo · Sun 21/05/2006 22:29:44

I think Krysis has the best idea. You shouldn't have to be "invited". If it's a long-term contest, where you know many challenging entries are going to appear, and you STILL think you can measure up, then by all means, enter and prove it!

Nikolas · Sun 21/05/2006 22:32:07

I think that I like the idea. As previously noticed, it would be kinda difficult to find who the 'best' are in every category... But maybe a pro contest, for anyone to join, official kind of it could work (and Iwould try the English contest

).

Also there is an issued of what the theme of a 'pro' contest could be. It is rather difficult for me to find a theme than only loominous, BB, Krysis, Dan Clarke, etc... could pull off, and I (for example) couldn't (which I wouldn't be able even to dream about... but anyway).

I mean the mad scientist lab was a huge success imo, as 1. loominous took part after a long time, 2. most BGs were amazing! 3. big turn over... This for me could very well be a 'pro' contest. What could we think that would make things more 'pro',. I wonder...

And for music (my department) I can't think of anything difficult really... Everything seems to have been tried already...

Byut indeed a very nice idea,....

Nacho · Sun 21/05/2006 22:49:41

When I said "theis has been tried" I meant the huge colaborative projects. They allways fail. A pÃ¬tty, but true.

vict0r · Sun 21/05/2006 22:50:26

It could be like a sprite jam, bg blitz etc. at the end of the year, with the winners of that years contests could enter. Possibly? Maybe? Or not...

Akumayo · Sun 21/05/2006 22:52:07

Quote from: Farlander on Sun 21/05/2006 22:49:41
When I said "theis has been tried" I meant the huge colaborative projects. They allways fail. A pÃ¬tty, but true.

I don't think he means for this to be colaborative. It sounds to me like a year-long comp of individuals building something for the comp.

Gregjazz · Sun 21/05/2006 23:21:41

Quote from: Farlander on Sun 21/05/2006 22:49:41
When I said "theis has been tried" I meant the huge colaborative projects. They allways fail. A pÃ¬tty, but true.

But this is not a collaborative project idea. Those have a tendency to fail because it's difficult to coordinate a project with people purely online.

Like Akumayo said, these would be individual projects. Basically like a sprite jam or tune contest except you have a lot more time (thus expecting much greater entries)

Anym · Mon 22/05/2006 00:25:21

Quote from: calacver on Sun 21/05/2006 21:21:57
Okay this is kinda a weird challenge idea. But the idea is to make it more long term, like two months or so.

No offence, but as much as I like seeing amazing artwork, I'd rather have people work on games than to spend two months on a long-term challenge. Even if it's only once a year, it's still two whole fucking months!

Also, how is more time going to benefit, say, a sprite jam? The "champions" you named usually don't need the whole week alotted for a sprite jam to present something amazing. Would extending the timespan improve the quality further? I doubt it. And changing the challenge, for example asking for much larger sprites would probably both be less educational for the audience and a turn-off for some of the artists.

Quote from: calacver on Sun 21/05/2006 21:21:57The idea is to invite the best background artists and best sprite artists and then have them challenge sort of in a champion of champions challenge. Have AGS's best bg artists go up against eachother in a specific challenge.

I don't think this is necessary at all. If the topic is interesting enough, you already have the best artists compete against each other (along with everyone else) in the "normal" competitions. On the other hand, if the topic isn't interesting, why should the artists bother joining the champion of champions challenge.

Babar · Mon 22/05/2006 07:03:37

How about this way:
At the end of the year (or perhaps the beginning of the next year), the people who got the maximum wins in any competition compete against each other in that competition. Like if all the people who won over 15 sprite jams had a competition. It'd be nice if they had to explain the steps they took to make the piece (and be judged on this as well?). Then at the end everyone will vote for "Spritist of the year".

scotch · Mon 22/05/2006 10:07:31

More competitions? I really don't think we should have any more, there are so many.

Nikolas · Mon 22/05/2006 10:12:31

Maybe... if the main issue here is to have people talk aobut what they did, let's just ask them to make a small-ish tutorial.

Instead of having a competition let's just enrich the tutorials we already have.

Shane 'ProgZmax' Stevens · Mon 22/05/2006 14:10:17

I agree with scotch. Also, this isn't really my cup of tea. I much prefer shorter and less time-consuming contests like the Sprite Jam.

Afflict · Mon 22/05/2006 16:50:53

I dunno I am still stuck on the year issue!

Gregjazz · Mon 22/05/2006 19:06:00

What if some sort of prizes were awarded? To give more motivation to participate in these more extensive contests.

Nikolas · Mon 22/05/2006 19:51:41

Like what? Who would donate money for the prizes? Ubless you mean something else...

vict0r · Mon 22/05/2006 19:54:52

More trophies!!!1