...And it's driving me crazy. I have been trying for the past half hour and still havn't figured it out.
Again it has something to do with the name, and it's not about chess.
Check it out at: http://www.thepetersengraph.com/
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It's driving me somewhat crazy too. I've had a couple of good theories but they haven't worked out. It's annoying, because after knowing Petals Around The Rose, you think, "Ahh, I'll be able to get THIS one quickly".
Yeah I know, It's so frustrating. I thought I had worked it out before, but unfortunately it wasn't so.
You can check out the source code of the page to find the algorithm.... ;)
or google.
Here's my hint:
IT IS NOT SIMPLE.
It is not like Petals around the rose, it is a proper math-ish algorithm, which is kind of disappointing (read: lame) really.
I just read the comments on the page and they pretty much said it isn't a complicated maths problem
What I'm really interested in is whether its a visual solution or, as SSH said (not that I'm doubting you) a number problem
EDIT: Okay, my current theories are:
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It's to do with the pairs of numbers
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It's to do with the dots on opposing sides of the dice
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It's to do with how many dots you have to add or subtract to equal something else
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It's to do with the colour. But that's a really weak theory.
I have no clue at all how this works, either. However, you can play around, testing theories by manually entering numbers into the fields below the dice, instead of randomly rolling. All I've figured out so far is that the order the dice are in does seem to matter.
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Number 1 is the best theory
Quote from: Kinoko on Tue 22/03/2005 11:59:15
I just read the comments on the page and they pretty much said it isn't a complicated maths problem
What I'm really interested in is whether its a visual solution or, as SSH said (not that I'm doubting you) a number problem
EDIT: Okay, my current theories are:
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It's to do with the pairs of numbers
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It's to do with the dots on opposing sides of the dice
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It's to do with how many dots you have to add or subtract to equal something else
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It's to do with the colour. But that's a really weak theory.
Okay, I've figured the 6th dice out, and I have noticed a pattern, but... still no answer
6th dice? There are only 5!
Another hint:
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Maybe Zapmate would be a better name for the game
and
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the whole thing would be easier, more logical and less lame if all the answers were 3 bigger
I am SO close to getting this, I have a theory that works 80% of the time...
EDIT: Oh, whoops! I meant 5th
EDIT: Okay, getting closer, I -think-...
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The 5th dice seems to indicate the right number when it's on 3, but will add 1 if it's 4, 2 if it's 5, etc...
The other four... At first, I thought it was the number of a certain dice (if not one) added to it's value... but that doesn't work all the time.
Then I thought, you take out any pairs of dice, and then add the non-pairs together... but that doesn't work all the time.
Sounds like you're getting further away.
Have you ever played Stratego?
Damnit! ^_^ No...
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I've noticed the 2nd and 4th dices values' work differently to the 1st and 3rd... am I imagining it?
That's an important observation, but it kind of happens by accident... think Darwinism
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The world is a tough place. Some will take advantage of anyone near them who is smaller than they are and crush them completely.
Okay, I have it now, and it's retarded. I hate being one of those people that bitches about puzzles they found hard, but... this had bugger all to do with the title. NOTHING! It wasn't like Petals Around the Rose at ALL, it was a completely different concept.
*sigh* I'm just sorry I wasted part of my life on this thing.
Told you so
I'm SO sorry I didn't listen -_- I hope you can forgive me.
I encourage noone to attempt this. It's senseless and lame, and not clever in the slightest.
Then, could you tell me how it works? I don't want to solve it, I just want to know why it's lame.
Warning: full solution:
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Start with the leftmost dice
Look at the dice to the left (if there is one) : if it is less than or the same as this dice, make that dice = 0
Look at the dice to the right (if there is one) : if it is less than or the same as this dice, make that dice = 0
Now move on to the next (non-zero) dice
So for 1 1 1 1 1:
1 1 1 1 1
1 0 1 1 1
1 0 1 0 1
Now, add up all the dice 1 + 1 + 1 = 3
Now, subtract 3 3-3 = 0
So 1 1 1 1 1 = 0
For 2 2 2 2 2:
2 2 2 2 2
2 0 2 2 2
2 0 2 0 2 summed = 6 -3 = 3
1 2 3 4 5
0 2 3 4 5
0 0 3 4 5
0 0 0 4 5
0 0 0 0 5 summed 5 -3 = 2
Hey, great game.
Great is especially the fact that I have absolutely no clue what's the game is about. Checkmate? where? What is a checkmate? What do I have to guess? I know chess, but dice... :P
So it's like 2 puzzles to me.
...or - a great alchometer: If I get what's that dice thing is about, i'm definetly drunk! :D
Like mentioned, the name is important. Don't think of it as a chess-related term, but more of what the name would indicate :)
BTW, I solved it on my own. Took me about an hour :P
Ok after some time I could finally solve how the "petals around the rose" worked. Yes, it sounds lame, but I couldn't do it the first time I played it. Now I think I have it, except for the fact that I didn't at all think of the relation to the petals around a rose. I just thought about it in a mathematical way.
Can anyone explain me how the solution is related to the petals around a rose??
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My solution to the game was: (sum of the odd dices) - (amount of odd dices)
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It is the solution, but can you explain why it is? You know, in relation to the name and all?
:)
No, really, I can't tell how it relates to a rose and its petals. :(
Can you tell me?
It doesn't relate to a rose and its petals...
It just shares a similiarity to a game called "Petals Around the Rose". :P
Which can be found here: http://www.borrett.id.au/computing/petals-j.htm
Or the AGS version, courtesy of Hotspot: http://maddtrix.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/petalrose.zip
Quote from: Al_Ninio on Sat 26/03/2005 18:18:55
It doesn't relate to a rose and its petals...
It just shares a similiarity to a game called "Petals Around the Rose". :P
Which can be found here: http://www.borrett.id.au/computing/petals-j.htm
As far as I've noticed, kairus was actually talking about Petals around the Rose :)
Ah, sorry, then.
In that case:
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All odd dice have a dot in the middle. That is the rose. The dots around the middle one are the petals. Simply count them, and you have succeeded!
Sorry if I misunderstood, anyway. :P
Oh, thank you Al Ninio, that explains everything. I'm sure I'd never have thought of it.
The fields under the dices can be altered to what you want them... Nice little tip. :)
now you can ffigure it out. BTW ssh
1 2 3 4 5 = 6
Try again...