Just downloaded it and so far it looks good! :=
Using it right now ... still too new so my verdict isn't in yet but so far so good.
Chrome will never get out of style! Polish it, and it will look even better ;)
What is chrome?
EDIT: Ah... a shooter...
isn't Chrome a few years old now?
or is there some new one?
http://www.google.com/chrome
Just released today.
Ahhhh! Not a shooter! :) I will probably test it...
You can never have too many web browsers, it's great that now we'll have to start testing websites on yet another one...
The first thing I tested was how it displayed pixel art at x2/x3/...
Unfortunately, it too uses some damn filter to scale up pictures, but at least it seems to be less blurry than firefox's.
It's pretty fast so far. Definitely a different experience from mozilla and IE. Not sure if I like it yet, but it's slick.
Quote from: Pumaman on Tue 02/09/2008 23:05:34
You can never have too many web browsers, it's great that now we'll have to start testing websites on yet another one...
This was my first thought too. Yay.
However, wouldn't it be wonderful if it somehow managed to get rid of, say, Internet Explorer?
If Firefox can't get rid of IE for good, I somehow doubt Chrome will accomplish that. Although, you never know.
It looks really nice, but I've gotten used to Firefox and my precious extensions. Can't live without 'em. :)
Seems promising, but lacks some important features. So I'll have to wait for some addons and try again then.
Agreed. I can't go without AdBlocker very long.
Quote from: LGM on Wed 03/09/2008 07:16:36I can't go without AdBlocker very long.
I'm not entirely convinced that
Google will support the
Google Ad Blocker extension! ;D
Quote from: monkey_05_06 on Wed 03/09/2008 07:31:40
I'm not entirely convinced that Google will support the Google Ad Blocker extension! ;D
Is it up to Google? I mean anyone can write an Ad Blocker for it (as soon as they release extension support). And if they don't, you can always grab the code and make your own build that does support it ;).
With a name like Chrome, I was expecting it to be somewhat less garish. :-\
Also, the main selling points seem to be pretty gimmicky.
Why do I need to be reminded what my favourite sites look like if they're my favourites? So I can see if they've been updated? That's what an RSS feed is for.
Plus, no adblock and screwed-up image scaling?
I've installed it, and I might test it out from time to time, but for now I'll stick with my good old FireFox 2.0.
I really think, I'll stick to my buggy IE. At least you're sure you have bugs instead of the prospect of having no bugs, gets exploded into your face.
Yes and why switch from IE. Paradoxes are so much fun. The conformist's web browser that breaks every defined web standard known to man!â,,¢
Oh and if they allow extensions then surely someone could write one for blocking ads (even Google ads), I simply meant they'd probably try everything in their power to keep it on the down-low.
Further, I have to agree with the sentiment that you can never have enough web browsers. Actually so long as each is providing a unique presentation of what a browser can be and do, having a broad selection allows people to choose what fits them best.
I sound like a commercial for Progressive auto insurance, but what can I say? I've got good news, I saved $3600 (three-thousand, six-hundred US dollars a year) by not using GEICO. ;)
Stable doesn't mean you know that it's buggy and you accept this. Stable means capable of performing the designated function(s) without error. It doesn't have to be 100% error free, but when your defense for IE is "at least you know ahead of time that it's going to crash"...
Yep, but it;s stable. You know it;'s gonna do it. That makes it stable. Stable to provoke chaos and bugs yeah, but still stable.
Quote from: Ultra Magnus on Wed 03/09/2008 09:57:50
Also, the main selling points seem to be pretty gimmicky.
The main selling point to me is separate processes per tab. I hate when browser or site bugs brings my whole browser down.
Ugh, it's frustrating how all along the top of the window are all my porn site favourites. This is clearly no good!
I'm kinda good with Opera at the moment. Firefox has let me down on some things. Perhaps if Opera does too I will check this out. Most of the programs google has made work well so I trust this one does too.
What I find funny is that the main selling points are the same as in IE8 (separate processes for tabs, better javascript engine, better security [secure window]). Coincidence? Even the EULA seems as bastard as Microsofts ;)
Quote from: zabnat on Wed 03/09/2008 12:06:06
What I find funny is that the main selling points are the same as in IE8 (separate processes for tabs, better javascript engine, better security [secure window]). Coincidence? Even the EULA seems as bastard as Microsofts ;)
the big difference is that with google these point actually work the way you want to. :=
I've been using it all day and I'm surprisingly happy with it. I normally don't test new things like this, but I'm really glad I did. All my browsing today has been zippier and neater than usual.
Surely, at some point, I will find the HORRIBLE FLAW that will make me hate it.
It sure looks nice, but I'm staying with Firefox. It's a free browser that obviously tracks how often you visit which page, and it's made by a profit-oriented corporation that mainly subsides on showing people advertising. This may just be my paranoia acting up, but does anyone ELSE smell a rat here?
What I meant by "main selling points" is what they've got on the prog's front page (http://www.google.com/chrome), that are there to grab your attention and "sell" the product, which are pretty gimmicky.
Quote from: Akatosh on Wed 03/09/2008 12:52:12
It's a free browser that obviously tracks how often you visit which page, and it's made by a profit-oriented corporation that mainly subsides on showing people advertising. This may just be my paranoia acting up, but does anyone ELSE smell a rat here?
Heh. That reminds me of why I never used GMail (http://www.gmail-is-too-creepy.com).
And now that you've reminded me of that, I'm thinking maybe I'm going to uninstall Chrome, too.
At least until it's a bit older, and there's a general verdict on it. :-\
Edit: And uninstalling it is an experience, too.
It just popped up a little confirmation box, and when I clicked "yes" it opened IE (despite the fact that I was using FF at the time) to this page (http://www.google.com/support/chrome/bin/request.py?hl=en-GB&contact_type=uninstall&crversion=0.2.149.27&os=5.1.2600).
It didn't tell me it had successfully uninstalled or anything, so I had to check my list of programs to see if it had actually gone, but it still gave me a feeling that it left something behind.
Maybe I'm just being paranoid, but I'm currently doing an Ad-Aware scan just to check.
I never understood these browser discussions. Everybody I know screams firefox. As if a webpage content suddenly becomes "better" when using firefox or chromeTM.
Whatever.
Hah, IE is about as stable as a nuclear bomb. Sure, it works just fine... but it's a nuclear bomb.
Not for me. Too much stuff, I don't find I'm in any need of and whicch I could do faster manually.
I personally, have got only a couple of requierements for an Internet browser and I don't see why I should switch from Opera. Although, even it seems to get too many new functions.
I like the built-in "Inspector" that opens when I right-click and select "Show details about this element." It looks like a really handy debugging tool for my own html.
Quote from: Kinoko on Wed 03/09/2008 01:57:19
However, wouldn't it be wonderful if it somehow managed to get rid of, say, Internet Explorer?
Haha, 10 points for post!
Hmmmm, looks like they don't have a version for OS X yet, which pretty much is a dealbreaker for me, as I only use Windows for AGS and Windows games.
The browser I change to someday, won't steal focus from address bar if page suddenly becomes fully loaded.
Like, when I start Firefox, google.com starts to load. I don't want google, I start typing address. Blam! Google is loaded. And half of my typing goes to nothing since focus is lost from address bar.
Minor thing? Fall for this 20 times per day.
Chrome can't do this.
I wait.
Before any of you get too attached to Chrome, you might want to read this Gizmodo article (http://gizmodo.com/5044871/google-chrome-eula-claims-ownership-of-everything-you-create-using-chrome-from-blog-posts-to-emails) which points out a disturbing clause in the EULA.
Quote from: InCreator on Wed 03/09/2008 19:19:22
The browser I change to someday, won't steal focus from address bar if page suddenly becomes fully loaded.
Like, when I start Firefox, google.com starts to load. I don't want google, I start typing address. Blam! Google is loaded. And half of my typing goes to nothing since focus is lost from address bar.
Minor thing? Fall for this 20 times per day.
Chrome can't do this.
I wait.
Why don't you use a blank start page? :-\
I have become too attached to FF to ever let it go. I just couldn't cheat on her after all these years. :'(
Firefox is so damnably heavy...I'm running 6 tabs at the moment, and I've got 105Mb of memory usage.
Still, I'll wait a bit before trying out Chrome.
ill stick with opera
Quote from: Babar on Wed 03/09/2008 19:55:05
Firefox is so damnably heavy...I'm running 6 tabs at the moment, and I've got 105Mb of memory usage.
Still, I'll wait a bit before trying out Chrome.
I read somewhere that Chrome is a fast browser, but the multithreading means it uses bucketloads of memory...
I have been making a reasonably complicated web program the past two days, and Chrome rendered it with only one glitch, pretty good going compared to anything else (though the SVG features lag behind Opera and FF3 slightly). But then I write to standards as much as I can and Webkit is a pretty good engine. I suppose this means we don't really have to test on Safari anymore? I hate that Windows port.
IE took 8 hours of hacking involving scouring for posts about glitches on usenet and it still looks crappy, but that's hardly notable.
Quote from: InCreator on Wed 03/09/2008 19:19:22
The browser I change to someday, won't steal focus from address bar if page suddenly becomes fully loaded.
Press Escape before starting to type.
Or F6.
By the way, Google have fixed their EULA to be less Nazi, and it applies retrospectively to all of us who didn't read it properly and clicked OK.
Quote from: SSH on Wed 03/09/2008 19:44:48
Quote from: InCreator on Wed 03/09/2008 19:19:22
The browser I change to someday, won't steal focus from address bar if page suddenly becomes fully loaded.
Like, when I start Firefox, google.com starts to load. I don't want google, I start typing address. Blam! Google is loaded. And half of my typing goes to nothing since focus is lost from address bar.
Minor thing? Fall for this 20 times per day.
Chrome can't do this.
I wait.
Why don't you use a blank start page? :-\
Because other 20 times I want to google fast.
Escape works! Thanks, dasjoe!
But emphasis was on word "steal". Browser, my slave, shalt not decide which field I want to edit at any moment.
If master clicked on "address" and started typing, browser must OBEY!
Quote from: SSH on Thu 04/09/2008 12:37:30
By the way, Google have fixed their EULA to be less Nazi, and it applies retrospectively to all of us who didn't read it properly and clicked OK.
"Be less Nazi"? They already explained that it was a copy & paste error. It wasn't intentional at all. Sometimes people read too much into things.
Quote from: InCreator on Thu 04/09/2008 16:19:54
Because other 20 times I want to google fast.
Chrome automatically googles if it doesn't match a site...
Quote from: SSH on Thu 04/09/2008 12:37:30
By the way, Google have fixed their EULA to be less Nazi, and it applies retrospectively to all of us who didn't read it properly and clicked OK.
I installed Chrome today to try it out and I don't remember having to agree to anything... maybe I've just got so used to clicking through licence agreements. Some day a software developer will take my house because I clicked 'I agree' to something.
Anyway, played with it a bit and wasn't that impressed. Felt rather Firefox-like. There were two things I did like though, the incognito mode (that doesn't write to the history and deletes cookies and temporary files when you close it) and the way you can resize some text input boxes. Guess I'll come back when its out of beta.
Quote from: OneDollar on Thu 04/09/2008 23:23:02
Quote from: SSH on Thu 04/09/2008 12:37:30
By the way, Google have fixed their EULA to be less Nazi, and it applies retrospectively to all of us who didn't read it properly and clicked OK.
I installed Chrome today to try it out and I don't remember having to agree to anything... maybe I've just got so used to clicking through licence agreements. Some day a software developer will take my house because I clicked 'I agree' to something.
EULAs are a strange breed; supposedly, they are legal contracts, but in effect, there's no room for negotiation and, as everybody is aware, they are almost never read. EULAs have a history of being pretty much worthless when a dispute makes it to court.
http://www.digitalartsonline.co.uk/news/index.cfm?email&NewsID=11289
But appart from that: Opera does what I want from a browser, so I'll stick to Opera as my standard...and Firefox with the Zotero plugin because endnote costs money and isn't compatible with OpenOffice.
To me there's no use for another browser at the moment.
And I've never been partial to the Google idea of having 'your computer online' (for example: I have a local mail-client and log in via the web only if I have to), and Chrome is one step towards that idea. And it's not that a good idea, but that's just my personal opinion.
Quote from: OneDollar on Thu 04/09/2008 23:23:02
Anyway, played with it a bit and wasn't that impressed. Felt rather Firefox-like.
http://gizmodo.com/5044958/dr-frankensteins-browser-the-strangely-obvious-ancestry-of-google-chrome
Quote from: OneDollar on Thu 04/09/2008 23:23:02There were two things I did like though, the incognito mode (that doesn't write to the history and deletes cookies and temporary files when you close it) and the way you can resize some text input boxes.
http://lifehacker.com/5044518/enable-chromes-best-features-in-firefox
also
http://lifehacker.com/software/how-to/get-safaris-best-features-in-firefox-268691.php
Of course, if you install all of them it'll slow you right down.
But that's what I like about add-ons, they're completely customizable.
Chrome may be flashy, but there's a lot of stuff there that I won't use, and a lot of stuff I do use is missing.
The only add-on I've kept after trying all of those from the above two pages is the Download Statusbar, and I already had that months ago.
Speaking of add-ons, does anyone know of one that un-blurs enlarged pictures in FireFox 3?
That's the only thing stopping me from upgrading right now.
Heh, thanks for those links. Might go and install some more add-ons into Firefox in a bit then.
Quote from: Ultra Magnus on Tue 09/09/2008 09:34:53
Speaking of add-ons, does anyone know of one that un-blurs enlarged pictures in FireFox 3?
That's the only thing stopping me from upgrading right now.
Nope and its really annoying.
No, and they don't plan to change it, either, since it only seems to really bother pixel art people. Firefox 2 works just fine for me.