Multiculturalism in Europe

[Nacho]

If sex was forbidden in fridays  to I'll move to Islam, because of location issues friday is my "happy day of the week"! 

[Matchew]

There's also a really really juicy irony in people in Ireland complaining about migrantsÃ, 

You know what? you're right, during the great famine, about four million or so of our six million population (we were at it like rabbits okay?) left for Australia, America, Great Britain, France, and of course, your homeland Spain ( we helped ye out in yer civil war after all.) it's sick and idiotic to discriminate when we were probably one of the most widespread cultures after all ( what with Leprechauns, Alcohol, Big fluffy shamrocks and what happened on the simpsons St Patrick's day episode when the british chip shop was blown up and the crowd all roared in celebration (I think I should shut my big fat mouth here before I cause trouble)). We should know better when you take into account that in America there were signs saying "no niggers or irish wanted" we have no right to object to migrants. I'm actually sick and tired of this topic cause I did a four page irish essay on this very topic, (it's hard okay, I'm fluent English) but y'know if ya can't beat em, join em.

(stupido idioto) ( i'm really sorry for that poor attempt at humour)

By the way, who knows what caused the famine in the first place?
(you get extra points for not mentioning the word potatoes)

[Nacho]

Las Naranjas is in the other part of the World taking Spain as a reference... 

[Matchew]

Las Naranjas is in the other part of the World taking Spain as a reference...Ã, 

maybe so, but what's really embarassing is that all you could come up with is that answer.

You just wait until the next world cup, we won't miss on penalties next time. oooh I'm so annnnnnnggggggrrrrrrrrryyyyyyyyyy!!!!!!! ooh free tranquilisers yum! 

[Las Naranjas]

I'm um, the descendant of Irish migrants to Australia.

One of 100 million members of the Irish diaspora.

[SSH]

It took another Irish schoolgoer to make Yufster look coherent, I notice... 

I better add that my surname is MacCormack, a good old Irish name... Erin gu bragh

[Anarcho]

As luck would have it, there's a very interesting article in today's Washington Post (www.washingtonpost.com) entitled, "Evangelicals Use Courts to Fight Restrictions on Christmas Tidings" that talks specifically about the issues we've been discussing.  Notice how the debate is quite different in America.  I bet a lot of you would find it very interesting, though you have to register with the post to read it.  Here are some excerpts...

After years of legal assaults on municipal displays of Nativity scenes and Christmas observances in public schools, Christian groups are now mounting court challenges in the other direction. From Mustang, Okla., to Maplewood, N.J., they are filing or threatening lawsuits to win the inclusion of manger scenes in school plays, Christmas carols in school concerts and Christmas trees in public buildings...

Last year, a school administrator stopped Jonathan Morgan at the door to his classroom because the "goody bag" he had brought to a school party on the last day before Christmas vacation contained candy canes with a religious message attached...

This year, the 9-year-old and his evangelical Christian parents went straight to court. They were among four families who persuaded Judge Paul Brown, of the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Texas, to issue a temporary restraining order on Thursday securing their children's right to hand out "religious viewpoint gifts" at school-sponsored holiday parties.

This kinda thing is nuts, stopping someone with a Candy Cane because it has something religious attached, but is it so different from viels?  :

Kelly Shackelford, the Liberty Legal lawyer who argued the case, said in a telephone interview that Supreme Court decisions since 1969 clearly have established that students do not give up free-speech rights when they walk through the school door. Expressions of religious faith that would be unconstitutional coming from a teacher in a classroom are acceptable among students as long as they do not "materially and substantially disrupt" school operations, he said.

This is where the laws in the US obviously differ from those in France, and why as I said before, people would go nuts if you stopped them from wearing religious clothing in school.  Actually, in the US they don't go nuts.  They just sue.

One last one...

"This area is predominantly white, and it's predominantly Christian. Frankly, it's pretty conservative Christian," he said. "We have to be careful, though, that those students who are Hindu or Islamic or Jewish don't have their rights trampled on."

This is what I've been talking about.  So the majority of the population has an opinion of something, their opinion or even their laws cannot trample upon the rights of the minority.  Just because you make a law, doesn't mean it's constitutional or morally valid.

The article goes on to relate a story of how a town took down a nativity scene because someone called up asking them to put up a Menorah too, and instead of just doing that, they took the whole thing down thinking that it would lead to a windfall of religious symbolism that would never end.  Eventually they just put the scene up with along with a Menorah and it was no big deal.

But like I said, if you're interested in this thread, check out the article.  I could cut and paste it, but I'm not sure what the rules are for that kinda thing.

[Matchew]

It took another Irish schoolgoer to make Yufster look coherent, I notice...Ã, 

I better add that my surname is MacCormack, a good old Irish name... Erin gu bragh

Good man, mine's Fitzpatrick, it's norman! by the by, you spelt that wrong, it's Erin Go Bragh, but I forgive ya. Do you know what's scary?, our Irish-speaking channel is doing adverts on anti-racism and stuff and it has North african immigrants and Asian immigrants speaking better Irish than me. It made me wake up and realise that these migrants want to be Irish too ( at this stage i think it's safe to say they're more irish than the Irish themselves ) and if anything they deserve to be here.
Now, back to multiculturalism, how do we expect to embrace different cultures when we can't even accept each others ( europe's that is) I mean what with football hooligans, ethnic cleansing, neo fascists, hate crimes etc.

[SSH]

it's Erin Go Bragh

In Scots Gaelic it's gu. Alba gu bragh!


And on reflection, I think its about time that someone accused you of being DGMacphee

[Matchew]

it's Erin Go Bragh

In Scots Gaelic it's gu. Alba gu bragh!


Fair fucks to ya, but I'm not DGmcphee, who is he by the way?