Arrgh. I went to bed late last night because of this, and I woke up at 7:30 AM this morning for.. YAY!! Engineering CAD. I'm so tired and I can't sleep because the guy next door to me is playing Right Thur, Korn, and stupid Limp Bizkit songs over and over. All I can think of is how much I wish I had my PA system in my room so I could play this (http://www.princeton.edu/~rmoore/punit/) four times louder than they can possibly play their crap. Why do people think everyone wants to listen to their crappy music? It's so loud and it doesn't even SOUND like music.
Those Princeton people (http://www.princeton.edu/~rmoore/punit/) are right.
Tell me about it. I have my own single, but there's an adjoining double inhabited by one particular asshole who plays his shitty, shitty, shitty music at full blast. He even leaves it on when he's not in the room. Obviously I go and turn it off when this happens, but it usually takes a while for me to realize he's not there. I'm a music major too, so it's hard as hell to focus on writing or studying music for my classes when all this shit is being pumped into my eardrums all the time.
I'm not a person who can claim a vast knowledge of music but hearing the same horrid popular tune over and over again can be irritating. The fact that the song "Who let the dogs out?" was ever popular proves that the common person is ... well... (searching for a polite term here)... a fucking moron.
Basically, I like what I do for my own reasons but because I don't like most of what I hear on the radio, I realize that most people probably don't like my stuff. So, I listen with headphones most of the time. If I want ambient music while doing laundry or whatever, I keep the stereo at a level where I can hear all the instruments/vocals clearly but not loud enough that others are tortured by it. I'm currently in a house with a bit of buffer-space around it. I really can't imagine how you people in dorms and apartments can retain your sanity when connected to inconsiderate asses.
My roomate last year always needed to have something playing while he was going bed. I, personally, don't like any noise. But I managed to get a goodnight sleep most of the time, except for the one night my roomate decided to play rap (which he listened to in the day time), at night. And that kept me up all night, so I made him promise never to play it again at night. Which he abided by, as I was compromising, by even allowing him to play music. Still, those strong beats and rythms can just drive you mad. The roomate before that used to have like 20 songs he'd play over and over again, which even if they were good songs (which they weren't), it would still get annoying.
Still, I don't know about you guys, but our dorms had a rule about noise after 10 or 11 pm, I'm sure there must be similar rules. I would knock on their door and ask if they'd turn it down, first. If they didn't I'd get someone with a bit more power.
Headsets, though, indeed are the greatest invention. Wish I still had mine.
-MillsJROSS
I have some south american neighbours in the below storey who like to play loud "bachata" music all the time. Bachata is specially annoying if you don´t like it, because, as some music that you don´t like can´t "hurt" you, this melodies are fu*ing repeatitive and use a lot of strill sounds made by steel instruments (and I´m not talking of the mild and lovely steel drum used by jamaican musician, no...)
But the problem is not how crappy the music is, because it is a matter of anyone taste, I mean, they can hear me listening my beatles and think "How crap is the music that boy hears..." The problem is the volume.
There´s no need to put it loud... If you want to feel like in the opera, use headphones, for the God Shake! It is a matter of education, specially at late hours...
Jack... I feel like you... :'(
FACT:Wearing a headset or earphones for an hour increases the bacteria in your ear by 700 times each hour.
I play my music without a headset or earphones, but I keep it at a low volume, so it can't be heard in the next room. The main reason I do that is because the rest of my family hates my music.
Our old neighbours, who sold their house now and moved out, used to have very loud parties at small hours of the day. So I get on teh phone and call the local police.
me: hello, police?
policeperson: Oh hello Alex. Neighbours again?
me: Yup.
policeperson: We can fix that.
Usually 5 minutes or so later the police cars would roll in very quetly and catch them. I think they did them in for underage drinking and pot smocking too, I just hope it didn't have to be like that. It wasn't just the music, it was the drunk and stoned people running through our front yard that pissed us off. They peed on our fence too.
That´s my point Shasha... If you don´t like headphones, at least don´t put it loud.
About parties... In Spain (I suppose everywhere) drinks prices are becoming abussive (maybe 6 euros, or dollars...) So people buys alcohol and do parties in the middle of the street. Which is a problem...
People starts to scream, to piss in the corners, to puke... I´ve enjoyed going out and go mad, but I´ve been quite silent during my crazy nights... As I said, it is a matter of education and empathy.
Heh, I know exactly how remixor and jackhammer feel. Not a single person on my corridor has a good taste in music, it's all repetitive dance music and r&b. The girl across the corridor from me loves to leave her door wide open and play the same song over and over at top whack. Fortunately I listen to music whilst sitting at my PC, and my speakers are right next to my head, so I can drown out their music without turning it up really loud.
Our flat also has an awful taste in music, however I also get to put up with a million drunk students collecting outside my window between 1 and 5 am and being LOUD AND OBNOXIOUS. I may invest in industrial-stength earplugs very soon.
I think that it's a common phenomenon that when a person enjoys some kind of music he/she thinks others should also be given a chance to bask in its beauty. Thus ridiculous volume settings. It's quite a blow to the person's Weltanschauung when they realise that others don't enjoy.
edit: DS, do you check your IM box?
I remember when Sisqo's 'Thong Song' came out. Everyday in Summer, the same house in my street played that song NON-STOP.
Earplugs don't work, they're worse than headphones for the bacteria issue and they're extremely uncomfortable. I worked in a factory where we were required to wear them at all times and at one point I was accustomed to it but it still sucked. They drown out the noise fine, but that constant pressure in my ears while I'm trying to sleep drives me mad. I actually tried that last night.
Oh, and our quiet hours are between 1-10am. I couldn't have done anything but ask them to turn it down, and these people are asses, so they probably wouldn't have. My friend the next door down actually started playing rock music louder (his speakers are bigger), I guess to communicate a point. They turned it off after that.. I think it was 12am.
Fortunately, I haven't experienced people playing loud music in the middle of the night, but I do feel that some people have the need to express their taste in music very loudly sometimes... As for example, in our class, most of the people only listen to what's popular/on the radio for the moment (And if it's good music they either turn it off or they don't know what it is...)- And of course, they have to crank the latest Radio Hit up to eleven and tell everyone how great it is... Sigh.
Me and a friend sometimes try to provoke some reactions from these people by putting Slayer or some other heavy music in the cd-player, just for fun... I love too see the reactions when "Angel of Death" kicks in, and they ask me "What's that shit you're listneing to?"
...Ah... I love being the underdog sometimes... :)
Quote from: remixor on Fri 23/01/2004 04:53:41
I have my own single,
Yikes! Talking about music, & then I saw that sentance........well, you can probably guess what I thought until I read the rest......
Goldmund: Yes, although I haven't had chance to write a coherant response yet :)
(Although I'm home for the weekend so it'll be responded to shortly)
Haha, Slayer. Once when a die-hard Christian girl in my Math class found out I was an atheist, she insisted I go to her church with her to be saved. I kept saying no, and finally just bluntly said, "There's no reason for you to badger me about it, I'm not changing my mind." She replied, "I'm sorry, but Atheists are devil worshippers and if I can get one more off of the face of the Earth then god will love me that much more."
I was really irritated at her blatant ignorance. The next day I brought real devil worshipping music. Reign in Blood, I think.
Nice one Jackhammer
Im sick the majority of people thinking that those of us who enjoy the metal side of music, are all satainests and all we ever do is worship the devil or growl, and then everyone blames us and our music for all the evil in the world (the arabics have taken a bit of the heat off us in recent times), and everyone thinks all that is needed to make metal is to growl and play loudly.
If you can't apreciate the finer points in metal music and culture, you have no bloody right to put it down.
P.S. i would rather be woken up but shitty music then the sound of some ones house being renovated at 7 am
Jackhammer:
Heh, that's unfortunately the bad side of any religion, when people turn into fanatics and refuse to see things in any other way than their own...
And "Reign in Blood" was a fine choice, btw... Be sure to play "Jesus Saves" for that person the next time... :)
(Although saying Slayer are Devil-worshipers is wrong - Tom Araya has said himself that they are just storytellers of of how horrible life really is...)
And being into metal music is as Ghost says, a thing which most will hold against you, accusing you of being a devil-worshipper or whatnot...
In fact, the only kind of metal where being a satanist is required is in Black Metal - The rest of the sub-genres are most of the time very non-religous on the whole.
That said, I'll just say that I'm not a religous person, but I have nothing against either christians or satanist, and I can understand both views.
Quote(Although saying Slayer are Devil-worshipers is wrong - Tom Araya has said himself that they are just storytellers of of how horrible life really is...)
Heh, yeah I knew that. My friend told me he was just a normal guy really big into body building nowadays. I still thought it was funny, because you can't tell that by the lyrics.
Hehe, true - Songs like "The Antichrist" (http://www.darklyrics.com/lyrics/slayer/shownomercy.html#2), "Hell Awaits" (http://www.darklyrics.com/lyrics/slayer/hellawaits.html#1) or "Evil Has No Boundaries" (http://www.darklyrics.com/lyrics/slayer/shownomercy.html#1) doesn't really make up for a fun-lovin' christian gospel outfit, does it? :)
Oh well, they are a great band, none the less.
Ack!!
This 'metal music' must be a 'teenage boy' thing.....
*like I can talk*
sorry... that probably sounded like I was trying to be all superior...... I respect everyone's taste in music.
I just don't always understand it.
Personally, I think metal musicians try way to hard. A happy-sounding song with the right lyrics can be much more effectively depressing.
Heh, it's ok - I can't understand techno music, myself... But that's life - We can't all think the same... :)
And sure, in one way, metal is a teenage thing, but a lot of people continue to listen to it when they become "adults" as well, just like people who listen to pop or blues or whatever you happen to listen to...
I'd say it's pretty individual - Some youngsters listen to it because they want to rebel against parents, some do it because they think it's cool - But I can guarantee you that the majority of all metal-fans(young and old) do it because they like the music, and nothing else.
Trap:
You've got a point there...
The problem with metal is that the musicians (and even moreso the hardcore fans) take it far too seriously.
But I truly enjoy metal music. If you ignore the lyrics, which is very easy to do since you can't hear them anyway, there's nothing like it if you want some music that packs a punch.
The trouble with a lot of music fans is that they take whatever genre too seriously. Every genre has its ups & downs, its masters and its stinkers. I often listen to stuff that doesn't take itself too seriously, particular when in a wry mood. As far as Techno, hardcore fans will tell you otherwise, but the "up" side of the stuff is that it's good for dancing too. It's all about the rhythm the tempo and the bassline. As for me, I hardly count techno as music at all, mostly as club/movie/game ambient noise.
Techno is a very impressive SOUNDING genre, but it lacks in song writing. Personally, I'd like to hear more Techno that's actually written in a more traditional way. Y'know, not so repetitive, with chord changes, verses, chori. TMBG's "Man, It's So Loud In Here" is sort of like that, actually, although it's not a very complicated song.
Now Metal, for all it's angst, I feel generally lacks edge. I'd like to see some more twisted creativity in presenting such dark music. See Mr. Bungle, or Mike Patton in general.
I'm not a metal fan by any means, but I'm a guitarist and I appreciate Slayer for their chops. That's why I bought the CD, it just came in particular handy when I was accused of worshipping Satan.
Music taste is all arbitrary, I try not to bother people about it TOO much. Sometimes it's hard. *cough* Britney Spears *cough*
Well, with an example like that, it's more marketing than music anyway. When portrayed as a chaste, innocent teen Spears sold as many albums as she has all the later ones put together. Whilst tormenting coworkers about their appreciation of BS, I didn't encounter anyone who liked the music and didn't say something along the lines of, "She's cute/hot/sexy." I personally disagree with that assessment. While I'm sure to get at least one disagreement, I think Outkast is utter tripe and it's garnering radio airtime at a frightening pace around here.
Outkast? Yeah, that song is insanely overexposed. Still, I think it's catchy and it's pretty damn left field compared to other chart toppers like Britney, Justin, Eminem, etc. I think it's good to have an interesting, original song become popular. Sure, it's annoyingly overplayed now, but I think that it will make for much better nostalgia than anything by 50 Cent.
The song by Outkast (can't remember the title..1 of 2 I've heard) won't make for nostalgia in my case. Perhaps I'd have to be more open-minded about music or more of a general music-lover to see the virtue in it. Maybe it's just not my style, almost every aspect of it makes me cringe. I was trying to pick a more neutral group but couldn't come up with one; an example of non-original, flat music that's become popular for who knows what reason.
Since we're venturing into the realm of pet peeves & music, it's one of mine when people adore a song (usually a 1-hit wonder type) and don't get it. They miss the irony or the tongue-in-cheek glibness and take it at face value.
A couple examples: Bad Touch by The Bloodhound Gang. I dug it for awhile, then it got too much overplay by people that didn't understand that it was essentially satire. It's sad when satire of pop-music becomes popular and most miss that it's a parody. Another example is the song, "Popular (Can't remember artist)." For awhile, I noticed that people & movies took the words at face-value. I'm not an "If too many people like it, it blows," sort of person, more just ashamed that many people are superficial and thick-skulled.
[edit: Since I've already got far too many posts on this page, quick mention -"Every Breath You Take" is my friend and his fiance's song. They plan to have it played sometime during their wedding. Talk about creepy.]
It's like when "Every Breath You Take" is put on those anthologies of love songs.
Or Bob Dole using "Born In the USA" in his election campaign.
I like one of the two radio-play Outkast songs a lot, I seem to appreciate rap more when they use real instruments. "I love the way you move" is annoying to me because it's so repetitive. "Hey Ya" is just plain catchy and innovative. I usually just dismiss the entire genre of rap though, for the reasons those Princeton kids were making fun of it, outlined in the 18 page explanation. "Hey Ya" doesn't seem the same though because of the real instruments and lack of rapping.
Ahh, music.
Its amazing how some people will not listen to a song, if its commercial, or those who say 'i liked that band before they sold out etc)
Example, White Stripes. Now they are getting fame, the 'hardcore' fans are shitty cause everyone likes them now. Same with the Darkness (classic 70's style rockband with the skintight tights to go), they are getting the radioplay they deserve, and the people who listened to them when they were 'fresh' are disilllusioned.
I say who the fuck cares.
One thing that really pisses me off is the use of 'popular' songs as mobile ringtones. Well, not so much pisses me off, but if someone has a certain ringtone, i will say a witty comment. Like my manager at work has 'where is the love' on his phone, and i say to him 'where is the love damo', whenever it rings.
I hate dickknobs who must listen to their 'dance' music at 10000dB's whislt driving down a suburban street at 2am. Or at any time really. They piss me off.
As for Hey Ya. Its a fucking clever song. I read a review of that song, it was simply 'If you don't like this song, then you don't like music.' I think it's quite fitting. Like who cares if its on the radio every 1 out of 10 songs. It's a nice song. And the film clip is awesome.
I'd just like to say that i hate limp bizkit, korn, linkin crud and most importantly evanecancjdhnce. I think the world has enough angsty teenage dickcheese bands already.
"Popular" is by Nada Surf.. The lyrics are from an entirely serious book written in the 1950s. If people could take that stuff at face value then, it doesn't surprise me that they still can now.
Bah.. Have to agree with Lay. I hate when "hardcore" fans accuse bands of "selling out" just because they've become popular.. Sure, I'd understand if the band made their style more mainstream just to become popular, but if they become popular on their own merits and talent, then they deserve all the fame and money they get.. Tool's "Hooker with a Penis" explains it all pretty well.
I wouldn't mind if Hey Ya got played back to back for an hour. I know a lot of people who hate it, but I think they're just bitter because they have to wait four minutes for the next Nickleback song..
Another thing that pisses me off: Does anyone like Puddle Of Mudd? I can't find anyone who does, and yet the radio stations around here insist on playing their shit all day.
Oh, I also hate ignorant people who don't like listening to anything but pop music. My English teacher played some Robert Johnson in one class, and a couple of girls said it sucked. He kicked them out of the room ;)
One more thing! You ever see people who have the treble and mid on their car stereos turned all the way down, and the bass turned all the way up? And they're convinced that it sounds good? Do me a favor and kick those people in the balls.
Ben: They have gone bass-deaf, meaningly they listened to so much stuff too loud so their ear drums can't pick up bass anymore.
I don't know, but I remember on monday we were driving home at night, and for a long time while we waited for the traffic to clear up there was a car of a nameless brand in front of us. It looked like an average car a granny or a nurse would drive, but what made it special was the arms hanging out of it and the LOUD rap music that came out of the car.