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Community => General Discussion => Topic started by: InCreator on Fri 07/01/2005 23:53:55

Title: Counter-Strike: Source? Anyone?
Post by: InCreator on Fri 07/01/2005 23:53:55
Well, at the time I'm not doing things I'm supposed to do (sleep, eat, progress my own game, have a life, etc), I play CS: Source alot. Yes, the one that came with Half-Life2. It's pretty much social game. With strangers, everybody just run around and shoot each other. With known teamies... well, people make agreements first how, where and when  run and shoot.

Since none of my friends have this game (Estonia, country that can be aswell named Kazaa or eMule) and pirated copies won't work anyway, I really have no-one to play together with. Just browsing random servers all the time and hardly get to play as a team with anyone.

Are there any AGSers in CS universe? If so, under what nickname and in which servers do you hang in most?

I usually go by the name InCreator or InC, and don't have a resident server yet. Just picking by player count and map I like.


...
Ah, and from n00b scale 0-10 I'm near about -15 :D
Title: Re: Counter-Strike: Source? Anyone?
Post by: Chicky on Sat 08/01/2005 01:13:28
Hehehe, dont get 'em started on cs.

We have an ags server (1.6 and css), but we only play together, we're not a clan (despite the obvious clan tags).

Pm me if you want the server ip, i dont think it would be the best idea posting it here.

Common players are:
Me (Chicky)
AGA
Jake (Hotspot)
Tier
DasJoe
Scotch
Daz 
Puddin'

Title: Re: Counter-Strike: Source? Anyone?
Post by: BerserkerTails on Sat 08/01/2005 03:14:52
Hey... Could you PM me with the IP too! I can't stand Counter-Strike on public servers, but I like playing with people I know aren't idiots.
Title: Re: Counter-Strike: Source? Anyone?
Post by: HillBilly on Sat 08/01/2005 09:42:10
I wouldn't be suprised if I were the only person in the world who don't play counter-strike.  :(
Title: Re: Counter-Strike: Source? Anyone?
Post by: Privateer Puddin' on Sat 08/01/2005 09:46:50
missed me ¬¬
Title: Re: Counter-Strike: Source? Anyone?
Post by: Arboris on Sat 08/01/2005 12:09:48
Quote from: HillBilly on Sat 08/01/2005 09:42:10
I wouldn't be suprised if I were the only person in the world who don't play counter-strike.Ã,  :(

No you're not  :P
Title: Re: Counter-Strike: Source? Anyone?
Post by: HillBilly on Sat 08/01/2005 13:13:39
omg pwnd!
Title: Re: Counter-Strike: Source? Anyone?
Post by: wyr3x on Sat 08/01/2005 13:14:12
Quote from: HillBilly on Sat 08/01/2005 09:42:10
I wouldn't be suprised if I were the only person in the world who don't play counter-strike.Ã,  :(
hillbilly ... you are not the only one ... i prefer playing chess Ã, :P ... and that`s what i can only do with my Internet conecction. ... Ã, :(
Title: Re: Counter-Strike: Source? Anyone?
Post by: HillBilly on Sat 08/01/2005 13:18:54
hm. How about I put it this way: I wouldn't be suprised if I were the only dumb, violent, first-person shootin' lovin' bastard that don't play counter-strike.
Title: Re: Counter-Strike: Source? Anyone?
Post by: wyr3x on Sat 08/01/2005 13:36:50
Quote from: HillBilly on Sat 08/01/2005 13:18:54
hm. How about I put it this way: I wouldn't be suprised if I were the only dumb, violent, first-person shootin' lovin' bastard that don't play counter-strike.
mmm ... very expressive ...  ;D
Title: Re: Counter-Strike: Source? Anyone?
Post by: Arboris on Sat 08/01/2005 15:05:02
Quote from: HillBilly on Sat 08/01/2005 13:18:54
hm. How about I put it this way: I wouldn't be suprised if I were the only dumb, violent, first-person shootin' lovin' bastard that don't play counter-strike.

Again: No, you're not.:)  I enjoy a good FPS, but CS for some reason bores me (Half Life itself was never that entertaining to me either).
Title: Re: Counter-Strike: Source? Anyone?
Post by: HillBilly on Sat 08/01/2005 15:25:58
But are you dumb and violent?!

eh?!

Anyway, it wasn't my point to be the only non-cs player out here. I just meant to say alot of people play it.
Title: Re: Counter-Strike: Source? Anyone?
Post by: dasjoe on Sat 08/01/2005 15:38:43
just drop bye in #ags, further details then.


and everybody: get xfire, instant messenger for gamers, allowing your friends to see on what server you currently are and much more..
www.xfire.com iirc
Title: Re: Counter-Strike: Source? Anyone?
Post by: Flippy_D on Sat 08/01/2005 15:48:06
*Methodically loads a shotgun*.

Time, place?

Mind you, I'm okay at Source but near unstoppable in HL2DM >=D   160-32, baby.
Title: Re: Counter-Strike: Source? Anyone?
Post by: Mr Jake on Sun 09/01/2005 08:45:01
That would be those hacks.


The fun thing about CS:S with people you know is when people get worked up XD

AGA bitches about everyone camping;if you aren't running at him you're camping, chicky bitches about almost everything (:P) and flippy bitches about getting killed.

and everyone bitches about the AWP, because they all suck.
Title: Re: Counter-Strike: Source? Anyone?
Post by: Flippy_D on Sun 09/01/2005 13:34:21
Not my fault if I'm not as used to being killed as you lot  :=
Title: Re: Counter-Strike: Source? Anyone?
Post by: Mr Jake on Sun 09/01/2005 14:20:37
its those hacks of yours
Title: Re: Counter-Strike: Source? Anyone?
Post by: Layabout on Sun 09/01/2005 21:11:10
I'd prefer to stab myself in the eye with a fork than play counterstrike.
Title: Re: Counter-Strike: Source? Anyone?
Post by: Haddas on Sun 09/01/2005 21:15:26
Quote from: Layabout on Sun 09/01/2005 21:11:10
I'd prefer to stab myself in the eye with a fork than play counterstrike.

I concour
Title: Re: Counter-Strike: Source? Anyone?
Post by: Privateer Puddin' on Sun 09/01/2005 21:17:15
but this is cs source!1111 and if you're lucky enough, you can play my maps ;D
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Post by: Damien on Sun 09/01/2005 21:25:04
Oh c'mon, CS is so last tuesday! ET Elite mod is what hip kids play nowadays.

Actually, I quite enjoyed the CS but then the Steam came and completely ruined it for me.
Title: Re: Counter-Strike: Source? Anyone?
Post by: Flippy_D on Sun 09/01/2005 21:33:10
Steam works now. Honest to God.
Title: Re: Counter-Strike: Source? Anyone?
Post by: Haddas on Mon 10/01/2005 06:06:17
Quote from: Flippy_D on Sun 09/01/2005 21:33:10
Steam works now. Honest to God.

It's those hacks of yours. Steam never works
Title: Re: Counter-Strike: Source? Anyone?
Post by: dasjoe on Mon 10/01/2005 07:02:25
steam really works.
unless you didn't *buy* some release..

and, imo, steam is pretty cool. no longer "oh, there's a new update. let's leech it. ah, server is down. wait, there's a server running the old version, let's downgrade". i really like the streaming content stuff.
Title: Re: Counter-Strike: Source? Anyone?
Post by: Mr Jake on Mon 10/01/2005 08:27:44
I never had any problem with steam other than during the major updates..

God damn whining kids!!!  :P
Title: Re: Counter-Strike: Source? Anyone?
Post by: c.leksutin on Mon 10/01/2005 09:10:57
While I dont share layabouts particular view on it, I've never really seen what all the hub-bub is about CS, seriously?  what makes it any better then any other on-line FPS?

And this steam thing sounds like they made it impossible to use this software with out a high speed connection?

I dont know.  Give em an on-line version of hitman anyday, plan your kills, like a real killer would ;)

C
Title: Re: Counter-Strike: Source? Anyone?
Post by: scotch on Mon 10/01/2005 21:01:48
It's no more impossible to play multiplayer games on Steam than any other normal multiplayer game on slow connections, that is to say, almost impossible :P
You can't play FPS games, steam or non steam, on dialup and stand a chance against broadband users.Ã,  In general steam makes getting patches and things much easier, the steam servers are very fast and it's automatically kept up to date.Ã,  I'd love more games to use steam, bought HL2 through it, and I'd buy other games.
As for if CS is 'better' than other multiplayer games, I'm not sure, it's the most fun FPS I have played... the way shooting and tactical skill really matters, one good player can destroy a whole team with his aim or a cohesive team can outfox a group of better shooters makes it great to play when your plan goes well.Ã,  I'm sure there are other "tactical realism" games that are around the same level of fun, but CS is the most popular.Ã,  A Hitman type online game would be totally different, it's an idea we've discussed on IRC at length... it'd be hard to pull off but I'd love to see it tried.

BTW, everyone is welcome on the AGS CS:S server, unless you're an awp user ;)
Title: Re: Counter-Strike: Source? Anyone?
Post by: AGA on Mon 10/01/2005 21:32:11
I used to share Layabout's opinion about CS (not in quite the same words, because I'm not an arsehole, but still). Then I actually bothered to play it, and found out it can be a lot of fun. Playing with friends is always fun, and playing against strangers is usually fun, as long as you're doing well.

I honestly think anyone who says "I'd prefer to stab myself in the eye with a fork than play counterstrike" has either never even tried the game, or had a bad first experience where they got ruined by the opposition.

As for Steam, like scotch says, it is pretty much for broadband users only, but so are online FPSes in general. Unless you're very good you're not gonna last long with a >100 ping. Steam is an excellent program, one that more game publishers should take up. It ensures you're always up-to-date, can easily find servers, and (at least when VAC2 finally gets implemented) that no cheats can play the game. Sure people have had problems with it, but there are millions of Steam users, with a target audience that large you're bound to get some troubles. For the most-part it's smooth and bug-free though [as long as you have broadband :D]
Title: Re: Counter-Strike: Source? Anyone?
Post by: Flippy_D on Mon 10/01/2005 22:05:26
QuoteOne good player can destroy a whole team with his aim...

Muwahahahahahahahahah....
Title: Re: Counter-Strike: Source? Anyone?
Post by: AGA on Mon 10/01/2005 22:06:04
He doesn't mean you.
Title: Re: Counter-Strike: Source? Anyone?
Post by: Mr Jake on Mon 10/01/2005 22:11:47
He means AGA, and by aim he means aimbot.
Title: Re: Counter-Strike: Source? Anyone?
Post by: sedriss on Mon 10/01/2005 23:35:16
I played a few times on the ags server, but my computer recently decided to kill itself, so I dont really know if I have the energy to install it again.
Title: Re: Counter-Strike: Source? Anyone?
Post by: Redwall on Tue 11/01/2005 13:43:41
Quote from: c.leksutin on Mon 10/01/2005 09:10:57
While I dont share layabouts particular view on it, I've never really seen what all the hub-bub is about CS, seriously? what makes it any better then any other on-line FPS?

And this steam thing sounds like they made it impossible to use this software with out a high speed connection?

I dont know. Give em an on-line version of hitman anyday, plan your kills, like a real killer would ;)

C

Splinter Cell: Pandora Tomorrow's online mode... kind of.
Title: Re: Counter-Strike: Source? Anyone?
Post by: InCreator on Tue 11/01/2005 14:55:29
CS is a mixture of many different things.
For example, in Unreal Tournament you first search for weapon/armor, then battle, if you win - get powerups/yourself patched up again and seek next enemy.
In CS, the weapon and armor you buy lasts until you die. Other weapons can be aquired from battlefield, but it's much more difficult.

Also, you have your only life and when you're dead, you're dead. So you have to keep yourself alive until end of the round.

The weapons, are very different too. To get a gun which increases your chances to survive -  you have to play well. Or - have a strong team(work), which wins. In UT, Quake or other typical fps, even weakest n00b can pick up a rocket launcher and sell hordes of enemies to hell. But not here. Alternative is only to be really good/lucky sniper and make headshots with weakest pistol. But this is hardly possible for a weak player.

Each round starts by guessing which way enemies come from, and right decision is followed by ambush and great battle. In other games, people just randomly seek&destroy.

The tactical and strategical aspects of this game is what makes CS-S good. Er... this - and bumpmapping & ragdoll physics  :D

Steam works fine, in my opinion. Right, it's quite slow and annoying, but it does the game updating for you so there's no moments (unlike other games) where your try to connect to a server ends up with message that your copy of game is outdated.
And then seeking for patch.

Very similar to this game is America's Army, I played it for some time, but I've always thought that UT's engine is most slow and unreliable thing in the world. In matter fact, it is. UT, Rune, Devastation... whatever the game is, menus work bad, game lags and whole thing doesn't work too well. So - bah.

Source engine runs just fine. And is quite pretty too.
At least every multiplayer FPS fan should give it a try before taking any opinion.
Title: Re: Counter-Strike: Source? Anyone?
Post by: Redwall on Wed 12/01/2005 01:17:46
While I enjoy a bout of CS, I prefer UT w/ Instagib myself... No weapons, no armor, no chances. (and Fatman's the Universal Equalizer)