Dead Man's Chest: Not Half Bad!

[LGM]

I agree.. It seems to be a trend to slam every movie that hits the box office. Are movies getting worse, or is the average viewer becoming more pretentious?

[Krysis]

Well let me tell you something... American blockbuster movies suck. I havn't been to the cinema in ages becouse I've seen the same crap again and again. It's allways the fireworks and no plot.
Hollywood's principal is simple: If by some kind of stupid rare luck you manage to make a good movie, poo over its name and make easy money with a silly sequel.

I liked Star Wars... and they killed it for me.
I liked Terminator too... untill he got older and started WW3.
I loved the first Matrix... And then it got all epic, shiny and pointless.
I loved Pirates of The Carribian... Im not ever going to pay a dime for dumb sequels.

[Nacho]

I loved Pirates of The Carribian... Im not ever going to pay a dime for dumb sequels.

Which totally enters in the ambience of your freedom of decission, Krysis... But there are people who pees over that right of "not going to see it" They go, they secretelly love it, but they ruin it to the mythomaniacs who would really enjoy it, and after that they like to boast about how cool they are for criticising POTC 2. That's being hypocrital.

We're totally talking about different things. I admire your decission of "not going to see it". I admire those who really find good crits after seeing the film with a positivie attitude. But I just can't understand criticising without seeing it, because "it seems it's the reasonable thing to do".

Remember Titanic? It was, IMO, one of the most touching film in decades... maybe a bit slow at the beginning. I DARED to tell to my friends that it was a bit slow at the beginning. They allmost killed me. Then it won 11 oscars. I bought it in video. When that friends (The same who almost killed me for criticising it 6 months ago) saw that I had it in video, they almost killed me, because Titanic was "for sissies, with DiCapry, who sucks, and Kate Winslett, who is a fat whale bitch". Why this change?

I hated SW episode one, specially Jar Jar... But man, if you are a mythomaniac, Episode I and II are worth if they conduct to the minute where Darth Vader awakes. And if the "rumour" that "all the saga sucks now!" spoils it somehow. I didn't liked Matrix II and III... But I still like part I. I can't understand how "a sequel released in cinemas" can ruin enjoying the experience of seeing the original movie in a DVD at home. They are different movies! Actually... I think that if you go with the "feeling" that the sequel it's going to kill all the saga... it probably will!

So, people... Relax.

See you in this very topic when Indy IV is announced.

[m0ds]

Just wanted to say I saw it tonight and quite enjoyed it! Bit too much Depp, bit too long - but other than that it was still very entertaining. A few chucklesome moments, but in honesty - the new Steven Segal Orange advert had my sides splitting - but I guess only because I was wondering about him the other day

[BerserkerTails]

Remember Titanic? It was, IMO, one of the most touching film in decades... maybe a bit slow at the beginning. I DARED to tell to my friends that it was a bit slow at the beginning. They allmost killed me. Then it won 11 oscars. I bought it in video. When that friends (The same who almost killed me for criticising it 6 months ago) saw that I had it in video, they almost killed me, because Titanic was "for sissies, with DiCapry, who sucks, and Kate Winslett, who is a fat whale bitch". Why this change?

It's the backlash sydrome. It happens when anything becomes too popular. Take the Bee Gees in the 70s for example. When Saturday Night Fever came out, the Bee Gees became super famous globally. They released a string of albums with tons of great songs on them. But then they became too popular, and all the sudden it was "cool" to hate the Bee Gees. Radio stations started having "Bee Gee Free Weekends" and the like.

I saw it happen again with the film Napoleon Dynamite. A few of my friends who had seen it in the theatre absolutely loved it. But when it got released on DVD, and became extremely popular, a couple of my friends started slagging it. It annoys me how people can change their opinion on something because of it's popularity. But of course, it's going to happen.

Back on topic, I liked Pirates 2. I had high expectations, since the first one was bloody brilliant in my opinion, and the second film ALMOST met my expectations. So I thought it was pretty good. I'm not going to outright hate it because everyone else loves it, nor am I going to love it because everyone else hates it. It was a good film with some great moments, regardless of how much money it's made.

[Las Naranjas]

It can happen in just a few months. Vanilla Ice was actually popular once.

[Nine Toes]

It annoys me how people can change their opinion on something because of it's popularity.

I think it's because people don't know how to think for themselves, and it's too easy to give in to pop culture's subliminal messages.

I can't wait to see how putting Keith Richards into the film series will turn out.

I suppose Richards will make a fine "Papa Sparrow", given his history of drugs and booze, and his odd slur when he talks.  I don't know if he's done any other movies, but I would have thought his big screen debut would have been a cameo in one of Romero's Dead films as a zombie (he already looks like a corpse, so why not?...  ).

[Babar]

As far as my own annoyance goes - considering that I haven't even seen the movie yet - the reason is that I cannot imagine any other way the movie began than this way:

"Hey, people liked Pirates of the Caribbean, and it made a lot of money! We'd be fools to throw this away, lets make a sequel! Since people liked the first movie, we'll try to keep it the same! We'll have those two silly pirates make an appearance again, and perhaps even those two funny soldiers, and the monkey! People will like that. We'll make gag references to the 1st movie, and since people liked the fight in the Blacksmith's shop, we'll have something like that! (and try not to have too much new stuff, we might miss, and people won't like that!)

Meh...I'll probably go see it anyway, and I might even be proved wrong, in which case it is better than going to watch it with very high expectations and have them fall.

[m0ds]

I liked the fact it plays off the first one... Simply because I hate it when sequels completely forget their originals. There's some gags and happenings in POTC2 that are funny because of whats happened in the first one. I'd suggest watching the first one again, even if you've seen it 1000 times already just before you see this one, then it will seem like a direct continuation. There are moments in POTC which will remind you of Monkey Island, too! Which was nice

[Nacho]

Indy 1 was ok...

Indy 2 was totally different... No nazis, no stuff related with the bible, no deserts... even Indy had no gun! People said it totally sucked.

Indy 3 recovers the spirit of the first movie... Deserts, Nazis, Sallah, Bible stuff....

And people said it sucked because it was a rip off of the first one.

Ergo, people will never be happy.

[2ma2]

Well I saw it and I got what I expected - heartful swashbuckling adventure. Yes, a bit too long, I was restless in my seat a couple of times, but nothing major. 3 out of 5 

[MrBen]

Monkey Island is Amazing

[Mad-Hatter]

I give it a 3/5, as well.


It was an interesting movie, and I can see how some people thought it was better and how others thought it was worse than the first one, but I think that the first one was a bit better.

The first one had a better storyline, I think. The second one had a good storyline, too, but the new characters introduced didn't seem to live up to the ones from the first film, and the ones who made a reappearance didn't seem like their old selves.


Overall, I give it a 3/5,

[Radiant]

I'll give it 4 out of 5 as well.

It is true that 90% of sequels suck really bad and are nothing but money grubbing (The Lion King III, Ocean's Fifteen, I Am Entirely Aware Of What You Did Last Summer, etc). However, the remaining 10% of sequels are well worth it, and this is one of them.

[Mad-Hatter]

It is true that 90% of sequels suck really bad and are nothing but money grubbing (The Lion King III, Ocean's Fifteen, I Am Entirely Aware Of What You Did Last Summer, etc).

LOL


I agree entirely. ^_^

[MillsJROSS]

It is true that 90% of sequels suck really bad and are nothing but money grubbing

I'm sorry, but I'd say 99.99% of all sequels are money grubbing. This move included. It doesn't mean that the movie is bad, it just means that those who produce movies see what the audience likes and make more of it. I'd actually say, most of the originals are money grubbing, too. Movies are a business, they are there to make money. People read scripts, say, "That one will make us money!" And then a movie is made.

-MillsJROSS

[Las Naranjas]

Man, I went to the bookshop and realised that all the publishers were only printing books so they could sell them and try to make money. Horrified at this CRASS COMMERICIALISM I went to the cinema, only to see more CAPITALIST motivated films. So I bought a CD, which was nothing but a RENT SEEKING exercise by a studio that wasn't altruistically distributing music at all!

So I decided to read fan fiction on the internet, listen to garage bands on Myspace and watch home videos on youtube. All else is MONEY GRUBBING.

[Radiant]

All the world's a store, and all the men and women merely payers...

[Helm]

I liked Terminator 2

[Shane 'ProgZmax' Stevens]

It can happen in just a few months. Vanilla Ice was actually popular once.

It's his own damn fault for being in Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2: Secret of the Ooze.


Also, I haven't seen Pirates 2 yet but I enjoyed the original in spite of detesting Orlando Bloom's one-dimensional prettyboy-ness, so when it comes out on dvd I shall endeavor to see it. 

I do find it problematic for the story that stealing the Aztec gold could save Barbossa from an encounter with a scimitar through the chest when he was human, but I suppose if he stole it while somehow still alive and ran away it could 'sustain' him until the gold is taken away...Then he should just flop over again, logically.