i were in my estonian class and i got lighten(thats the word?)!! and i came up with an idea!!
What about this:
if we die, we will soon born, exactly in the same time (year -same, months-same, seconds-same) in exactly the same body. like life makes a restart. new life wil be exactly the same, same crashes, prizes, injuries and so on. And deja-vu is a part our previous memoryes, that brains remember also possible, that old memoryes "flash back".and when we sleep so part of our previous life "things" will restore themselves in back corners of our sub-consience(old memoryes, that havent taken place jet in new body).
etc.-once if i were riding in a tractor tire down-hill I made an auful danding.. i mean crash:
there were a slight bump on road and i and tire i were in jumped-not a flight, more like 1 meter flight about apox. 5cm. high. and tire(me in it)fliped over. and i bumped out and made about 8 turns (on sideways) and landed about 1-2 meters from tire, and slided a bit.while friends were running to help, i crawled to tire.when i layed down there, i "got"deja-vu. deja-vu was:the same situation-me crashed, feeling like s**t, laying and looking into the sky....
there have been a lots of those "flash backs" i have them regulary(like once in a whil, not like eveyday or so)
and i wonder how else can they bee so presice.???
The answer to this thread is: Heh?
Now a more scientifical answer would be that all deja-vus are created from small electrical problems (the same problems that make someone epileptic) in the brain. This problems mess just a tad with the memory issues of your brain.
Is this what this thread is about?
Otherwise the rest just doesn't make any sense. Not for a game, not for a story not for anything. The problem is the rest of the world. Ok you are reborn exaclty who you were in the previous life, but wait... in the previous life there was no internet so this thread would be imposible... (<-see what I mean?)
I too have thought on that I should check to see who died at the exact moment I was born, or possibly concevied, but this would only work if the same amount of people alive today, are the same amount of people alive tomorrow, or the next week, which isn't the matter. We are currently on a exponential incline.
Why this epidemia of paranormal events in gen gen? ??? Is that a paranormal even itself? Brains around the world linked, sounds like telequinesis...
I suggest we quarantine the place asap ¬¬
i've always maintained that deja-vu is brain lag, something happens but your brain doesn't register it straight away.
i get lots of deja-vu, it used to make me feel sick to my stomach. i also just happen to be epileptic.
I thought deja-vu was a glitch in the Matrix...
My deja-vu also contains deja-vu, as in I'll have the feeling I've done this before, and that I felt like I'd done it before that time round as well. I also sometimes know what I'm going to think or say next, although not what anyone else is. That doesn't actually sound very impressive, put like that, but it's quite creepy when it happens.
I think I heard deja-vu was like a short circuit in your brain, basicaly writing new memories directly into long-term memory and making you think you remember it from earlier. (Possibly this is what Nikolas already said.) Sounded plausible at the time, but since I can't remember where I heard it I don't know how much faith to put into it.
Eventually someone will make the obvious joke...
Eventually someone will make the obvious joke...
SSH, apparently it was you :P
Anyways. I don't count out the possibility of reincarnation. I once figured, that there is a limited amount of organic species, and now, as there are more and more humans all the time, other species die, because they born again as humans... Don't teel me why, but it's possible... we cannot know for sure. :=
So if you can be reincarnated are you afraid of dying? Are you sad when someone dies?
SSH: Bravo.
Has deja-vu got a biological explanation? Let's wiki it:
"Neurophysiological specialist Stephanie Warn (based out of San Francisco) has dedicated research on the subject matter. Her current conclusion is that déjà  vu is merely the brain pulsing at an exponential rate which causes a person to recall something he or she saw the moment before."
Tuomas: You should keep in mind that in both Buddhism and Hinduism, the objective of a soul is precisely to stop being reborn (in Buddhism that happens when you reach Nirvana), so a certain number of souls are not in the game anymore.
Not to mention those theories about reincarnation not being necessarily lineal in time (a "the bug you are squashing right now could be yourself" sort of deal)
I once heard a very interesting idea, more scientifically pausible: as we are just our conscience, and that's all we can know, our existence means repeating again and again the same life we have, doing exactly the same stuff (yeah, I know. Unless you are Hugh Hefner, that sucks)
Anyway, all that could be a good idea for a game.
Quote from: Uku on Fri 03/02/2006 14:20:31
if we die, we will soon born, exactly in the same time (year -same, months-same, seconds-same) in exactly the same body. like life makes a restart. new life wil be exactly the same, same crashes, prizes, injuries and so on.
What, I'll have to live the pathetic pile of crap I call my life into all eternity?!?
NOOOOOOOOOO!!!
Quote from: MrColossal on Fri 03/02/2006 17:06:24
So if you can be reincarnated are you afraid of dying? Are you sad when someone dies?
It seems as though no matter what happens, death is more sad for the people still living than for the person who died.
I thought deja-vu was when the overlord made sure you would be in that position or you would learn the true meaning of life. The same kind of thing that I have to switch the lights on and off 72 times before I leave a room or my family will die.
switch the lights on or off 72 times or your family will die? I've heard that one before somewhere?
I have this problem where I have to switch my lights off or I won't be able to get to sleep.
Eventually someone will make the obvious joke...
Quote from: wikipedia
the brain pulsing at an exponential rate
Hmm. My opinion of wikipedia just went down.
Quote from: SSH on Fri 03/02/2006 22:15:12
Eventually someone will make the obvious joke...
That's odd... I just had a Déjà  -Vu...
Hmmm. Deja-vu. I just posted this article...
http://www.crystalinks.com/holographic.html
Wow, that was a really great read esper, thanks for linking. I'm very much into brain research and surrounding subjects (going to a lecture on the subject on sunday, yay!) and this sure is an intriguing approach to the whole thing.
Oh yeah, the thread:
I have deja-vu a lot, it's something that's always intrigued me. Deja-vu of having a deja-vu also happened a few times. Sometimes, during a deja-vu, I don't just feel like something has happened before, I feel like I know what's going to happen, but only just a couple of seconds before the event. This includes small details like what someone is going to say and their way of forming the sentence, but again, a brief moment before it happens.
I like the idea of what I call the "Groundhog theory" - the possiblity that this life is our only life, that it will repeat & that we have an eternity to live it, however we please. So Uku, I share a similar thought and yes - I beleive it could be the way life pans out.
One major contradiction or headf**k for me is that, why do I know that I am present now, and that if de ja vu is "memories", why did I not remember feeling present and in existence at that time, too??
Anyway, this is a big big big big big discussion as far as I feel about it but I can't just type out my thoughts, because its taking a long long time to figure out :P
De ja vu is weird, sometimes creepy but most of the time exhillarating. Why DO we remember those moments? Who knows.
I think there's also a link to "coincidence", too.
Deja-vus are awesome. Usually when I realize the feeling of deja-vu, I just sit back and watch things happening while knowing all the time what is going to happen.
pettery while reading your post i rememberd that if i have deja-vu then:
picture, i see is like then if i look about 3 minutes in 1 place withut blinking(can you look into 1 place at least 5 minutes without blinking?-i can)-so colors are inverted(particly-my eng. su.. is bad(grammar at least))by sub-consience.like time is almost freezen -im moving a bit and eveerryyy tthhiinnkkk iiiisss ssslooOoowww-AWESOME...
im cuite sad, that my theory isnt working.(cause if it would, after many times you woud have dejavu-constantly(cause have 1 dejavu, then 1 and 2 and after 123 and so on.
I've stared at walls, books, etc for several minutes without blinking or shifting my eyes, and know what your talking about. Colors start to move, lines start to overlap themselves, and every still thing seems to become animated and inverted. I like the feeling. It's so... abstract.
You mean... your eyes became unfocused?
Yeah, but it's more than that, colors get inverted as your eyes move ever so slightly, but if you train them on one spot, they begin to quiver, causing radiences of strange color and abstract design... It works best if you're very sleepy...
You forgot to tell us about those purple pills you took before doing that experiment...