As a break from the rough and tumble DEBATE thread, I thought maybe we could each take a stand on beer. For my part, I'd like to say: Isn't beer great? I know this is a controversial opinion.
Now this isn't a drunk post. I just seriously like beer. Someone said in another thread that Australian beer is good. I've only had Fosters, and I've heard that Fosters is a joke in Australia. Is that true? I don't really like it at all. Name some good Australian beers. Name some good English or Scottish beers. I'd like to know.
And for everyone that wants to bash on American beer...yes, the big corporate beer companies produce crap, but there are some top notch micro brews and smaller company beers in America that will stand up to a lot of European brews.
So, um, beer? Anybody? Beer?
I've really tried to like beer. I poured up a big glass once and sat with it the whole evening. I just couldn't drink more than a sip at a time without making a face! So I've come to the conclusion that beer's just disgusting!
I have to stick with cider instead. Or maybe vodka and tequila if I really wanna get down! ;)
Beer is an acquired taste. I like cider too though. I made some homemade cider once with some regular old Mott's apple juice, and some beer yeast. It didn't taste so bad.
Beer just tastes.......wierd and is really bad for me even though I'm at this age.
Ok. I know there are plenty "of age" people on this board that appreciate beer. Right? Come on. Please?
Hey,
I'm of age, 23 on September 13th to be exact...
However beer tastes like sweaty balls and urine. Wine dries the hell out of my mouth and tricks me for looking like grape juice.
The only wine I've been able to drink and actually enjoy was Plum Wine when my girl and I went out for dinner on our anniversary.
Just wait for CJ to respond, he'll say something about Fosters and then say how great it is and then say that AGA is stupid or something.
I was 3.... (*ahem*) on 4th September but I don't like beer either, it tastes horrible to be, I like regular wines though.
Your english is very good for a toddler, Gilbot; but I'm not sure I approve of your drinking alcohol at such an age.
During my alchoholism period 3 years ago I used to say:
"I don't like or need beer. Coca-cola tastes much better. When I need refreshing drink, I'll drink coke. When I want to get drunk, pure vodka. When I want to f**k myself up, I'll mix these two."
Well, that works just fine for me.
But... Fosters IS great and AGA IS stupid....
Beer is great, I enjoy drinking beers from all over the world, Australian beers are good, but as with most countries, the mass produced beers are not as good as the less commercial one's (excluding Guinness, [although I'm sure there are better beers in Ireland that I've never had])
In Aus the popular beers differ between states but the main ones are Victoria Bitter (VB), Tooheys New (new) and XXXX (four x) and are standard tap beers in pubs (although XXXX is a Queensland beer and tastes like shit)
Carlton Draught is an alternative to the other 3 which I prefer, but it's still not my favourite but a cheap beer.
Tooheys Old can be good for a change up occasionally, it's a Stout beer.
Tasmania produces better beers eg. Cascade, and Boags, The Cascade Brewery is the oldest brewery in Australia.
My favourite Australian beer comes from South Australia, Coopers, they have a variety of beers, more a home brew style taste.
International beers I like include Guinness and Kilkenny, more acquired tasting beers, but once you've acquired that taste every now and then that little voice in your head tells you to drink it. Malty thick type beers go off,
Stella Artois is another I quite like.
And it is true that Forster's isn't that popular in Australia, its not even on taps in most bars. It would have to make its money overseas or it would go broke (probably not but I don't know anyone who drinks it [in Australia]).
I had quite a beer drinking weekend this weekend, Friday, Saturday and a few quite ones Sunday evening. I haven't done that for a while, but a good unplanned weekend.
I like beer threads, but most people around here are either too young, don't like beer or are recovering alcoholics.
I love beer from an artisans point of view [I home brew].
I just came back from Tasmania where I toured both the Boags and Cascade brewerys, they're very very good.
I have only tried Fosters once in 19 years in Australia, and that was imported from Hong Kong via the phillipines. I don't know of any pubs where you can get it, although there are many where a beer such as Stella or other imported beers can be got.
Stella is alright, but it's reputation is larger than it deserves.
I prefer darker beers, but I don't mind lagers and draughts, and there's not much choice in an Australian summer.
Budweiser is the worst beer I've tried. It has to be the worst thing about prohibition that it wiped out most of the brewing knowledge of the United States, which largely came from Germany, and was thus very good, and left only industrial beers like this.
The other night my brother asked what I wanted to drink, I told him to surprise me. He came back with a Tooheys New with Raspberry in it. Against all logic, and what my heart and mind told me would be the case, it worked.
Life is full of mysteries, and anything could improve New.
I, by my nature, am against that things "you gotta get used to it" before liking it (I.E. Smoking, coffee, sardines, anal sex...) and beer was in this group. But I drank once a cooool beer in a hooooot summer day and it was very refresing, nothing to see with the flavour that I remembered when I tried to "getused to it" when I was younger. I tasted more marks, and, call it nostalgia, but the first one I tasted is my favourite, and it's "Heinekeen".
Of course, if a purist like CJ, comes to me saying "That is just dirty water, taste a real tasty black irish beer, or this australian devil killer, blurp!!!11!" I would have to admit that, yeah, stronger beers may be better (for purists) but I preffer my mild ones, because I use it as a refresh.
It is like mixing whisky with soda. Dad says it's sacrillege, that whisky must just be mixed up with 2 or 3 drops of spring water, and I am pissing a good scotch whisky with the cola, but I preffer it.
I do not like beer...
The End.
I never even tried beer...
The End also
Boags Draught.
Greatest beer ever.
*Sigh*...
I see, there's no beer culture outside of Bavaria (alright, maybe in Ireland, but only maybe) or you wouldn't talk like that!
Personally, I do like beer very much, more than any other alcoholic beverage (without being an alcoholic, I'd say... But one beer a day or so is ok, isn't it?) .
Here's my personal list of favourite beers:
1) Eichhofener Dunkel (Dark beer, very smooth)
2) Kneitinger Bock (Also dark, sweet and very strong)
3) Schneider Weizen Dunkel/Hell (Wheat beer, more refreshing)
4) any other Bavarian beer
5) Guinness (sp?)
Should any of you beer-fearers come upon one of the beers mentioned in that list, you will be cured...
P.S: Beer is the purest beverage/food in Germany (no chemicals, additives, preservatives, etc!)
P.P.S: Dark beer is very healthy: e.g. One Pint cancels the effect of one pack of cigarettes!
Quote from: unlogged Isegrim on Mon 11/10/2004 11:50:59
*Sigh*...
I see, there's no beer culture outside of Bavaria (alright, maybe in Ireland, but only maybe) or you wouldn't talk like that!
Personally, I do like beer very much, more than any other alcoholic beverage (without being an alcoholic, I'd say... But one beer a day or so is ok, isn't it?) .
Here's my personal list of favourite beers:
1) Eichhofener Dunkel (Dark beer, very smooth)
2) Kneitinger Bock (Also dark, sweet and very strong)
3) Schneider Weizen Dunkel/Hell (Wheat beer, more refreshing)
4) any other Bavarian beer
5) Guinness (sp?)
Should any of you beer-fearers come upon one of the beers mentioned in that list, you will be cured...
P.S: Beer is the purest beverage/food in Germany (no chemicals, additives, preservatives, etc!)
P.P.S: Dark beer is very healthy: e.g. One Pint cancels the effect of one pack of cigarettes!
I will taste that... I remember that I liked a dark beer once, but it's not easy to find... :)
On saturday, i went to a local 'Beer Festival', it was great, lots of local beers, wines and ciders. :)
That must be a Spanish problem, you barbarians.
Every single pub I know has dark and lighter beers, even though more people drink the draughts.
On a similar topic, Australia just recently released its first diet beer called "Pure Blonde".
http://www.couriermail.news.com.au/printpage/0,5942,10895021,00.html
What does everyone think about this? Brilliant advancement in health sciences? Or a desecration?
Quote from: las unplugged on Mon 11/10/2004 12:42:44
That must be a Spanish problem, you barbarians.
Every single pub I know has dark and lighter beers, even though more people drink the draughts.
Actually, yeah, we're a wine country, and, while beer is being consumed more and more each day, even more than wine, we just don't have that culture. When I go to a belgium pub, they have thousand of beers, helles, drunkles, mild, schwarz... and they have the glas wit the mark/logo of the beer to drik the beer in the correct glass. I could only expect that in a spanish restaurant if talking of wines. Even average people know more or less which year is good or not.
We just drink San Miguel/Ã Âguila Amstel/Mahou in coca-cola glasses.
We even drik a lot of 0,0 % alcohol, for God's shake!!!11!
Over DG's... I've read a lot of scientist report which say that beer does not make you more fat, at least not more than any other food with high carbohidrate, it is just the things we eat with the beer that make us get fat (in adittion, beer makes you go to the toilet a lot, which is good) That in Spain is true, because we allways accompain the beer with almonds, jam, crisps... about the typical german guy in the october fest, it can be true too, because they appear to eat a lot of fatty things.
Does that happen in any other places?
Quote from: unlogged Isegrim on Mon 11/10/2004 11:50:59
*Sigh*...
I see, there's no beer culture outside of Bavaria (alright, maybe in Ireland, but only maybe) or you wouldn't talk like that!
Hah! I will have to strongly disagree with you! Sure Bavaria can call itself beer "Wunderland" but if there is a beer country it has to be Czech Republic with highest per capita consumption of beer in the world. Craddle of all pilsner beers (Pilsner Urquell) and original Budweiser (not that American ****). On the other hand, Bavaria has wider variety of sorts. I especially like your Dunkel beers and Hefeweisens... And Octoberfest is something not to mis too ;)
As for Fosters: arghhhh.... Tastes like something that was left in pipes afer they were washed out ;D.
I enjoy beer. It's refreshing, and gives a plesant buzz.
Can't stand wine though.
If you think Budweiser is bad, try Bud Light. It's absolutely terrible (but still a favorite around here, for some reason). It still tastes like piss, ball sweat, and water but for some reason there's way too much water. Also, my state only allows low-point beer (3.2% alcohol by volume) except for in liquor stores so all of the beer tastes terrible anyway.
I've only drank a few times, and I had to make myself do it. Beer tastes terrible.
I'm sure redruM will agree with me that the best Portuguese beer is Especial. That's if redruM is even of age (16 in Portugal). What say you, redruM? :)
I don't really like beer, even though I drank it at Brittens.
That lager was pretty good though.
Try 6X, brewed in my home town and leaves a nasty aftertase. Meaning drink lots of the stuff and you'll be too drunk to notice it ;)
I homebrew too!Ã, Though I haven't done a batch in almost a year because I was traveling/unemployed.Ã, The first batch I made tasted like stale vomit, but I later made a Robust Porter that tasted great.Ã, I definitely like darker beers...Guiness is my favorite...in terms of other brews I really like Budvar Budweiser (the Czech brew, jaz, you're right, it's great!). Isegrim, I like Schneider too, but it was never my favorite wheat beer.Ã, I always liked Franzikaner a lot.Ã, When I lived outside of Hannover in high school, we used to go to the happy hour special at the Paulaner, they'd give you liter of great beer for something like three marks.Ã, It was amazing.Ã,Â
That's really interesting about Fosters.Ã, Because the commericals they show over here say Fosters is "Australian for Beer".Ã, It's everywhere over here (America).Ã, I've been working in Iowa for the past five weeks and the only beer I could find were the American industrial brews, Heineken and Fosters.Ã, What's that about?Ã, I'm happy to be back in DC.
I remember I was in a german bar once and I was drinking a Fosters, and this Germanguy, who my friends tell me was hitting on me, said, "Fosters...hmmm...I sink it is an ugly bier."Ã, Ã, I thought about it and said, "Yes, I also sink it is an ugly beer."
Very ugly.
Hmm... When I tried beer as a kid, I cvouldn't drink the whole glass I had. Well, things changed. I got used to the taste... I even think it tastes good - if it is a good beer of course.
In Poland where I live there is a long tradition of drinking alcohol. Beer is very popular. Me myself, I like Tyskie and Warka Strong the most (but I didn't really drink many brands - only the most popular ones).
Zywiec is a very popular beer in Poland butI don't like it - it's too bitter for me. I'm sorry if any Pole reads this and gets embarassed Ã, :P
I was in Wroclaw once and tried Zywiec, it wasn't bad!
Many people like Zywiec. It's just my personal taste. My brother says Zywiec's the best :P
I wrote a song in appreciation of beer!
Beer is great!
Beer is great!
Beer is great!
You all suck!
Beer is great!
Hurray!
Seriously, I've always liked beer. Ever since the first sip. You have to learn to drink beer. The less you drink at once the worse it tastes!
I am australian, and I drink Fosters. Only because it's the widest available australian beer in london.
And aga is a smelly welshman.
Quote from: MrColossal on Mon 11/10/2004 06:59:22However beer tastes like sweaty balls and urine.
I wont even ask...Ã, :P
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Quote from: MrColossal on Mon 11/10/2004 06:59:22However beer tastes like sweaty balls and urine.
I wont even ask... :P
Hell, I will! How do you know it tastes like sweaty balls and urine?
Not a beer man myself, or Wine, or Champagne, or Cider, hell I don't think I like any drink, I know where I stand with my Irn Bru (Scottish by the way), so you all suck.
As for beers from the UK, definatley try some Old Spekled Hed, although it's more of an ale, but what ever you do don;t drink Carling, tis foul.
Anywho, I like beer to a certain extent I cant sit and drink it pint after pint, but maybe a pint or two is OK.
Quote from: Dr Magintz on Mon 11/10/2004 19:19:06
Anywho, I like beer to a certain extent I cant sit and drink it pint after pint, but maybe a pint or two is OK.
You need more salty nuts!
Quote from: SSH on Mon 11/10/2004 19:37:40You need more salty nuts!
Not you too... ;)
Quote from: MrColossal on Mon 11/10/2004 06:59:22
However beer tastes like sweaty balls and urine.
Oh, man! You've tasted Sweaty balls and urine? Bummer!
I like beer. I do. I don't often drink it to quench my thirst, but as an offhand social drink, it's not bad. It doesn't get you drunk too quickly, and one can casually drink it - not like when I would do shots and end up drunker than sin.
Bt
I've never been able to have more than a sip of beer- or most alcoholic drinks, for that matter.Ã, I do, however, like to drink mead when I can get my hands on it.
Mmmmm... viking booze...
Trafalgar Brewery makes a very nice Raspberry Mead, and their blueberry isn't bad either. Most of the time, though, you can only get mead from homebrewers.
Quote from: Blackthorne on Mon 11/10/2004 23:48:43
Quote from: MrColossal on Mon 11/10/2004 06:59:22
However beer tastes like sweaty balls and urine.
Oh, man! You've tasted Sweaty balls and urine? Bummer!
You have too, through beer. You don't have to make fun of us just because you happen to LIKE the taste of sweaty balls and urine.
I do drink beer. The taste isn't great, but it's pleasant enough, and no-one drinks beer in large quantities just to appreciate the flavour, anyway :P
Most lagers taste alright to me, but Foster's just has a strange, metalic taste that I dislike. I'll only drink Foster's if it's free, which it is quite frequently, since if you go to a 'free drinks all night' kind of deal, it's invariably Foster's they're serving.
I also drink various British bitters (which, according to CJ means I'm an old man).
Out of interest, is XXXX a real Australian brand, or is it, like Foster's, merely pretending to be a genuine Oz export?
Beer is ok, but I've got a high alcohol tolence, so it doesnt do much for me.
... And Wine Coolers give me the shits.
I hate the taste of most beers.Ã, I usually drink beer to help me relax after a long day of work, and it does a really good job.
If i'm looking for beer with a good taste, i would have to choose Corona or Samuel Adams.Ã, Otherwise, most beers do taste like piss, even though i've never tasted piss.
Beers I'll drink (in no particular order).
Budweiser. Ã, It's usually panned, but for some reason I can drink it in large quantities. Ã, Probly because a local off license does 20 bottles for £10. Ã, I think I've bought 80% of their stock.
Lowenbrau. Ã, "Lion-Brew". Ã, Some Bavarian beer that gets me wrecked within three cans.
XXXX. Ã, Usually the cheapest beer in an establishment I frequent.
Carlsberg/Carlsberg Export. Ã, Usually my first choice, as it's a pretty stable choice. Ã, It's not fantastic, but it's rarely crap. Ã, By crap, I mean where it's nearing the bottom of the barrel, and you end up drinking bilge.
San Miguel. Ã, A nice, refreshing beer. Ã, Good if the sun's out.
Cobra/Tiger. Ã, One is middle-eastern, one is Indian. Ã, Both are nice, warm flavours. Ã, Good for drinking in restaurants with late licenses.
Guinness/Caffreys. Ã, Good if I don't want to get drunk.
Beers I avoid.
Carling. Ã, An english lager, tastes flat after a few moments. Ã, Usually tastes watered down.
Fosters Amber. Ã, Looks and tastes like someone's pleasured themself into a pint. Ã, It flopped.
Ales and Bitters. Ã, They taste ok, but not in vast quantities. Ã, I often find them to be sickly.
Borderline.
Stella Artois. Ã, The beer of wife-beaters. Ã, Tastes dodgy, but will eff you up.
Fosters. Ã, I don't like the taste, but it's usually cheap.
Heineken. Ã, Too weak to do much, but refreshing.
Other Drinks.
Cider.
Sometimes. Ã, It's usually really cheap, volume-wise.
White Wine.
I often avoid it, as most are too sweet. Ã, "Labrini" is a cheap option, if you want to get trashed over a long period.
Red Wine.
Only if I want to get really drunk, usually after getting merry on something else.
Vodka.
Always with a mixer, usually combined with a night of other drinks.
Tequila.
With salt and lemon.. Ã, or by personal fave: salt, tequila and lemonade in a glass, napkin on top, bang glass on table twice then knock.
"Flatliner".
Sembuca and Vodka in a shot glass, then add tabasco. Ã, Due to the weights of the liquids, you get a red line across the middle of the drink, with the rest clear. Ã, I always add far too much tabasco for others to handle it, tho.
"White Russian".
Milk, vodka, Kahlua. Ã, (Not Tia Maria). Ã, Tastes like sweeties.
Scotch/Whiskey.
Never. Ã, It's too smooth, it makes me want to gag. Ã, Even with a mixer. Ã, I always choose:
Kentucky Bourbon.
A la Jim Beam. Ã, Neat. Ã, Napalm in a glass.
Here endeth the lesson.
XXXX (pronounced 4 X) is a real beer, and is the most popular beer in Queensland, but it's rarely found outside that state for a good reason, ergo, it's horrible.
I'm drinking a Cascade Pale Ale right now, I like it.
I tend to buy Amstel alot. it's made by Heinekken, but I like the taste better. The main reason I buy it is it''s quite cheap, although it still tastes, and has a good hoppy light feel about it, which all light beers should have, but they almost all lack. And you need lighter beers in our summers, which means I can't drink as much as the darker brews I naturally prefer.
I should mention I almost only drink beer for the taste, and I rarely get drunk anymore. It's an aquired taste, but almost everything in the world that isn't just sugar or salt is as well.
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Quote from: Blackthorne on Mon 11/10/2004 23:48:43
Quote from: MrColossal on Mon 11/10/2004 06:59:22
However beer tastes like sweaty balls and urine.
Oh, man!Ã, You've tasted Sweaty balls and urine?Ã, Bummer!
You have too, through beer. You don't have to make fun of us just because you happen to LIKE the taste of sweaty balls and urine.
well, sweaty balls and urine
is and aquired taste, for sure!
Bt
Amstel is foul. When I went to Greek on a lads' holiday last year they were selling crates of 24 for about â,¬10, which is damn cheap, so it was pretty much all we drank for two weeks apart from insane cocktails whilst out at night. Maybe it was just the extreme heat and poor storage that turned the beer off (but you live in Australia, so surely you'd experience the same thing...), or maybe you just have a nicer Amstel where you are. Most likely though is that you just have no taste.
Interesting facts about beer:
- Why is beer so bitter?
+Because of the hops.
-Why the hops?
+Long story: Un-bittered beer is so sweet that you can't possibly drink it. So, in the middle ages, people sought for substances to make beer bitter. Those substances included among others: hemp (? -> Cannabis), ground cattle hooves and bile. Needless to say that the latter two are quite disgusting.
With hemp however there was another problem: monks used beer to survive their fast before easter, and cannabis is a sexual stimulant. So, imagine a house full of men who have sworn vows of chastity and drink up to eight litres (no joke! History!) of an alcoholic aphrodisiac EVERY DAY FOR 40 DAYS IN A ROW!!!
Thankfully someone found out that hops make beer bitter and suppress sexual desire...
So: If you want to use alcohol as seduction aid, wine's better than beer...
Fortunately the de-stimulating effect is not permanent!
We have refrigeration in my country.
Quote from: las unplugged on Tue 12/10/2004 23:17:21
We have refrigeration in my country.
Hah! Don't make me laugh. We all know you don't have electricity in Australia. You bury your beer in the ground to keep it cool and use potatoes to power your computer.
Don't mock potato power, it's quick, easy, and environmentally friendly. Just poke two nails of different metals (example: copper and zinc) and boom, electricity. About 400 of those might power a computer, with a DC->AC converter. For a little while.
so that's how the Irish survive....
and I don't believe Hemp and cannabis are quite the same thing, from the same plant but not the same part, otherwise you'd get a bunch of stoners away trying to smoke jumpers and ropes.
Quote from: MrColossal on Mon 11/10/2004 06:59:22
Just wait for CJ to respond, he'll say something about Fosters and then say how great it is and then say that AGA is stupid or something.
Well you've spoiled it now ._.
Love Beer
Favs
1)XXXX Gold (Great tasting light beer) Current Fav for after work
2)Guinness
2)Carlton Mid StrengthÃ, (I've been drinking light beer lately as it equalsÃ, Ã, greater next day production)
3)Newcastle Brown
4)Stella
5)Old Peculiar Ale from UK Quite Strong
6)San Migel (sp)
7)Cascade
8)Baogs (sp)
KAK
Fosters (how it became the Aussie beer overseas is anyones guess)
Cafferys
Carling
XXXX heavy
Becks on Tap never had a glass last 5 seconds without being flatÃ,Â
anyways thats my beer 2 bob seeya
:= Because thats how I look after a few beers I'm also smarter and stronger HA