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Title: Duke Nukem
Post by: Raggit on Mon 11/09/2006 04:33:26
Anybody remember Duke Nukem?  Those games were awesome.  I remember playing the shareware versions of the first and second one many, many years ago. 

I recently got back into the game, and now own the full versions of Duke 1, 2, and Duke3D, which by the way, is a spectacular FPS, for its time.

Duke's over-the-top, egocentric character is totally hilarious, and makes the games fun to play, even in the most frustrating parts.

The cool thing is, you can actually buy a lot of these old games from 3DRealms.  Nice to see some companies haven't forgotten their classics.

Just wanted to see if anybody else ever played these games, and if they still do.  Hope this thread doesn't get locked by our lockaholic moderators.
Title: Re: Duke Nukem
Post by: Evil on Mon 11/09/2006 04:56:38
I was more into the down-to-earth FPS's, but the only thing around like that was Wolfenstein. Duke Nukem was a bit too much for me. But, it set the bar for a lot of games after it. Still one of the great pioneers of gaming.
Title: Re: Duke Nukem
Post by: Las Naranjas on Mon 11/09/2006 05:17:02
Those Hitler exoskeletons and zombies were pretty damn well down to earth.
Title: Re: Duke Nukem
Post by: Evil on Mon 11/09/2006 05:27:43
Don't forget about the Hitler mecha.
Title: Re: Duke Nukem
Post by: Las Naranjas on Mon 11/09/2006 05:45:42
Quote from: Las Naranjas on Mon 11/09/2006 05:17:02
Those Hitler exoskeletons
Title: Re: Duke Nukem
Post by: PsychicHeart on Mon 11/09/2006 06:18:16
Was Duke Nukem 3D the one that got all the bad media 'cos of the adult bookstores?
Title: Re: Duke Nukem
Post by: LGM on Mon 11/09/2006 06:35:49
Not to mention the floppy tits with tassels.
Title: Re: Duke Nukem
Post by: EagerMind on Mon 11/09/2006 07:21:44
Believe it or not, this was the first FPS I ever owned. I never did beat it.  :-[ I think I lost interest because the 2nd and 3rd missions were kind of repetitive, whereas the 1st mission had some really great levels. But I did play in some awesome deathmatches in college.

I actually loaded this onto my computer recently and used some OpenSource program to make it run in XP (I think it may also improve the graphics a bit). But after having played Unreal and Half-Life, I couldn't get back into it.

Anyone think Duke Nukem Forever will ever actually be finished?

Quote from: Raggit on Mon 11/09/2006 04:33:26The cool thing is, you can actually buy a lot of these old games from 3DRealms.  Nice to see some companies haven't forgotten their classics.

Yeah, but the downside is you can't just grab them off an abandonware site.  :)
Title: Re: Duke Nukem
Post by: HillBilly on Mon 11/09/2006 07:41:13
This might be interesting for some, I know I've put it to good use:

http://hrp.duke4.net/

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Title: Re: Duke Nukem
Post by: Nostradamus on Mon 11/09/2006 08:26:29
Duke3d was awesome, it was the last (and one of the only) FPS I ever liked. The reason I liked it so much is that it happened in real places (city settings) with real weapons (mostly) so you could identify with it. Unlike all those Quake and Unreal crap series where you go around in boring rooms that look like nothing. I also played many many ad-ons and mods, my favorite was Platoon, a total conversion in which you played a soldier doing missions in Vietnam, super super cool.
What about the sequel Duke4ever?  It has been in production for ever? 9 years already to be exact - since 1997. Are they ever gonna release it?   Probably. They said this month that the game is in its polishing stage. Christmas 2007 release maybe? I wish. 10 years developing game sure is A LOT, and expectations will be that big.
What about the movie?  again it's been talked about for years. Probably it won't be done, and I'm not sorry since movies about video games are always crap. But they might be interested in it again if duke4ever succeeds.
Title: Re: Duke Nukem
Post by: Gord10 on Mon 11/09/2006 10:30:29
(http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/2598/def3.gif)

(http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/5435/d2al4.jpg)

This game had a special place in my childhood memories.
Title: Re: Duke Nukem
Post by: ManicMatt on Mon 11/09/2006 10:40:01
I only played the time travelling PS2 version where it was third person. "A time to kill" was it called that? I could google it, but I don't care. Actually, maybe that was on PSone? It was so long ago I can't remember. (Nor be bothered to google it)

I did like that game a lot though! And that game got me into Stabbing Westward, who are ace.
Title: Re: Duke Nukem
Post by: veryweirdguy on Mon 11/09/2006 10:49:04
Yeah, it was a PSone game called "A Time To Kill". There was another third person one called "Land Of The Babes" I think, but I never played it.

Time to Kill was pretty fun though, and I don't play many third person adventures (well, of that style, you know what I mean).

I played the original two platformers a lot as a child, they were great. My dad showed my 3D when it came out also, and I loved it, having only been used to Doom and wanting more by that time.

Everyone's given up hope on Forever though, right?
Title: Re: Duke Nukem
Post by: [Cameron] on Mon 11/09/2006 11:00:51
Land of the babes was ass.
Time to Kill rocked, and it got me into Stabbing Westward as well.
Title: Re: Duke Nukem
Post by: ManicMatt on Mon 11/09/2006 11:17:23
Cool, got you into SW too!

I actually used google for this "land of the babes", and I think I did have that game, and it sucked so much that I can't even remember playing it.

I was looking at the fun made out of Duke Nukem forever:

"Gamers have subsituted Forever in place of several names, calling it Never, Whenever [19], If Ever [21], Taking Forever, and Neverever"

Well i got a new one! (New to me anyway) The initials are DNF: Did Not Finish!

I'm good.  8)
Title: Re: Duke Nukem
Post by: Scummbuddy on Mon 11/09/2006 13:06:30
Gord, I totally forgot about that version....

And what I loved about the N64 version, and whichever similar version it was copied from, was that you could throw things through the portals in multiplayer. You can not do this in Halo and I hate it.  I would love to be able to throw grenades through the portals but it won't work, where as in DN you could throw the pipe bombs through and totally mess with people waiting for you to run in after someone.
Title: Re: Duke Nukem
Post by: 2ma2 on Mon 11/09/2006 13:45:25
I must say I have NEVER played the first two installments, and judge my Duke Nukem-fever solely on DN:3D. And I love it. From playing the Demo at a friends house to downloading it 7 years later of a warez site (yes I know.. boo me..).I never completed it though, but by golly I liked it. Ok, the pr0n is somewhat over the top, but in a young pubescent lad, that struck a chord. But it is the attitude that got me going. Duke is THE Duke and I would crave DN:F a hell-uva lot more than any Doom sequel.
Title: Re: Duke Nukem
Post by: ManicMatt on Mon 11/09/2006 14:04:56
I remember a moment in Duke Nukem where he fights a boss and then threatens he's going to kill him and then piss on his corpse. And then he does. *Ziip!* *psssshhhh!* *Zip*

I laughed so much!
Title: Re: Duke Nukem
Post by: Nostradamus on Mon 11/09/2006 14:18:51
Actually the exact thing is duke sayin "I'm gonna take your head off and shit down your neck", and then he takes his pants off and does just that.
That's obviously a Full Metal Jacket rip-off but it was a great moment.

2ma2 and any other others who didn't finish it: ever heard of cheats?
Title: Re: Duke Nukem
Post by: Raggit on Mon 11/09/2006 14:31:13
Flukezy:  Yeah, it caught a lot of heat from feminist organizations because of the way it depicted women, not only in the adult bookstores, but in the other levels where aliens had captured them.  But there's no real nudity, that I ever encountered.

I downloaded the shareware version of Duke3d, and got hooked instantly.  I played through it in a couple days, and then bought the full version, new in box, off eBay.

If you buy the full version of Duke3d, it also includes the original two Duke Nukems on the disc. 

Anybody ever played Duke Nukem: The Manhattan Project?   I have the demo, and can't decide whether or not I wanna buy it. 
Title: Re: Duke Nukem
Post by: ManicMatt on Mon 11/09/2006 14:42:45
No no, I may not remember his exact quote, but I'm 100% sure he takes a leak on someone when he defeats them.

So I think maybe he did both things. That rogue.
Title: Re: Duke Nukem
Post by: EagerMind on Mon 11/09/2006 15:44:17
Quote from: ManicMatt on Mon 11/09/2006 14:04:56
I remember a moment in Duke Nukem where he fights a boss and then threatens he's going to kill him and then piss on his corpse.

Yeah, it's the boss of the 2nd mission. When the boss first appears, he yells "I'm gonna rip off your head, and sh*t down your neck!". Then after you kill him, there's a cut scene where he rips the head off, lowers his pants and sits down like he's on a toilet. He even opens up a newspaper!

I can also remember the funniest line in the game - maybe I remember it because I only heard him say it once, and I was so suprised because I thought I had heard all of his quotes. I fired an RPG into a room full of those damn facehugger things, blowing a bunch of them up. Duke yells, "Let God sort 'em out!" I think I had to pause until I stopped laughing.

Another good one (from the deathmatches): "Your face? Your ass? What's the difference!"

Quote... but I'm 100% sure he takes a leak on someone when he defeats them.

You're not getting confused with Usual Suspects, are you (Kaiser Soze pissing on the fuse)?  :)
Title: Re: Duke Nukem
Post by: ManicMatt on Mon 11/09/2006 16:26:07
No I'm not! Either time to kill, or land of babes had him seen from behind peeing and the sound effects of peeing were played! I've never seen him go for a crap!
Title: Re: Duke Nukem
Post by: LGM on Mon 11/09/2006 16:39:20
My enjoyment of the one-liners is tainted because they're all "borrowed" from movies and such. A substantial amount from the Evil Dead series.
Title: Re: Duke Nukem
Post by: Raggit on Mon 11/09/2006 16:53:49
I can't get the page with the high-res pack to open.  Is there a direct link to the file so I can save-target as?
Title: Re: Duke Nukem
Post by: monkey0506 on Mon 11/09/2006 17:38:30
Try here (http://moreplease.free.fr/HRP/hrp_xtr10.zip) or here (http://polymer.plagman.net/hrp_xtr10.zip).
Title: Re: Duke Nukem
Post by: EagerMind on Tue 12/09/2006 01:19:43
Quote from: [lgm] on Mon 11/09/2006 16:39:20My enjoyment of the one-liners is tainted because they're all "borrowed" from movies and such. A substantial amount from the Evil Dead series.

Yeah, I actually played this game before seeing Army of Darkness. When I finally saw it, I felt like I watching some kind of live-action Duke.

Has anybody tried the hi-res pack?

Quote from: ManicMatt on Mon 11/09/2006 16:26:07No I'm not! Either time to kill, or land of babes had him seen from behind peeing and the sound effects of peeing were played! I've never seen him go for a crap!

ManiacMatt, I was just messing around. He may piss on something in those games, but I've only ever played Duke Nukem 3D. If you want to see it, check out this video (http://youtube.com/watch?v=Dy0aRUo78rQ) I found on YouTube. It shows all the cut scenes from the end of each episode. Episode 2, where he takes the crap, starts at 0:40. Enjoy!
Title: Re: Duke Nukem
Post by: Nostradamus on Tue 12/09/2006 07:01:09
ManicMatt - thought you were talking about duke3d, that's what I and EagerMind were refering to.
As for Manhattan Project I don't want to play it because it's action Tomb Raider style and I don't want to ruin my duke experience. I'll b ewaiting for Duke4ever (whenever).
Title: Re: Duke Nukem
Post by: ManicMatt on Tue 12/09/2006 09:28:48
Haha he took a crap! Not as funny as the piss scene, but then I AM looking at really old animation AND I already knew he was going to do that, so ruined on me a bit!

So neither of you had played those games... *bangs head against wall*

I did remember that I also got into Static-X via "Land of the babes"

Thankyou 3D Realms!
Title: Re: Duke Nukem
Post by: Babar on Tue 12/09/2006 10:14:16
Quote from: Nostradamus on Tue 12/09/2006 07:01:09
As for Manhattan Project I don't want to play it because it's action Tomb Raider style and I don't want to ruin my duke experience. I'll b ewaiting for Duke4ever (whenever).

I've played Duke Nukem Manhattan Project. It's a 3Dish sidescroller, not very Tomb Raiderish. Didn't find it all that interesting or innovative, but...yeah.
Title: Re: Duke Nukem
Post by: LimpingFish on Tue 12/09/2006 18:49:12
Manhattan Project is basically a 2D side-scrolling platform shoot'em up with 3D graphics.

It's alright for about ten minutes play, but get seriously repeditive.

The Hi-Def pack for Duke Nukem 3D is fun, and works pretty well. As does the one for Shadow Warrior.
Title: Re: Duke Nukem
Post by: Raggit on Tue 12/09/2006 18:51:45
Yeah, I just installed the high-res pack, with the 3D models, and it is AWESOME!   :o

It's way more satisfying to blow the sh*t out of a 3D model than a fuzzy, 2d sprite.
Title: Re: Duke Nukem
Post by: Domino on Wed 13/09/2006 01:59:21
Also, Duke3D for the PC comes with the awesome BUILD level editor, which you can make your own levels. Back in 1996 i tried working on some cool levels, which were awesome, and also fun to make, but unfortunately the BUILD editor will not work in WinXP. (tried to make levels again recently)  There was a BUILD editor for XP which you can find online, but was missing about 90 percent of the textures needed to build a decent level.

My favorite was "Time to Kill" for the PS1. Great game.
Title: Re: Duke Nukem
Post by: EagerMind on Wed 13/09/2006 05:05:44
Domino, check out this page (http://jonof.edgenetwork.org/index.php?p=jfbuild). I believe it's a win32 (and linux) port of the build engine.

If you look around the site, he also has ports so you can play Shadow Warrior and Duke3d natively in win32 environments. Another one (that I've tried out) is EDuke32 (http://www.eduke32.com/).

You still have to have the original games to use these. Bsaically you replace a couple of the original files with these new ones and you can launch the programs directly in WinXP.
Title: Re: Duke Nukem
Post by: sergiocornaga on Wed 13/09/2006 10:24:01
I loved Duke Nukem and all his pals. Cosmic Cosmo, Commander Keen, Johnny Dash...
Sometimes I miss Apogee. But then I remember that the spirit of the old-timey 2D platfomers lives on in free games like Cave Story and Lyle in Cube Sector.