I have been waiting for so long for this game I cant wait
Anyone else getting this on release date
FF13 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mz0Dy82RS5E)
New battle system
Wooooo (http://uk.xbox360.ign.com/dor/objects/14266574/final-fantasy-xiii/videos/ff13_vdp_021110.html)
wow, that looks lame..
Seriously, the trailer was a bunch of drama between characters I don't really care about set to fucking Leona Lewis. LAME! :(
I'll still buy it though, just because I really like 7, 9 and 12 (and thought 10 was okay, but only because of the end.). However the rest have been very dissapointing, and I fear this will be disapointing too.
7 was incredible and 8 awful, 9 was good but Zidanes speech was poorly written. 10 is nice although Tidus was yet another poorly put together character, 10-2 hmmm to charlies angels, 11 OMG mmo How crap, 12 not played yet but my mate said it was ok, 13 Looks Incredible with the whole FMV straight to battle stuff True tho I need to understand the story line more but I dont wanna spoil it for myself until the game is out.
It looks disappointing, but the biggest "what the fuck" was... Leona Lewis? It totally wrecked the atmosphere there.
Also I consider it to have reached it's peak around the 6,7,8 era, dropping off significantly from 9 onwards, although I did enjoy 9 also.
I have it pre-ordered but I don't hold high hopes.
my favourites are 5,8, 9 and possibly 6 (US numbers)
8 was the first I played to completion and after 8 7 just seemed lame.
I find it hard to take the characters seriously when they look like popeye.
and incidentally Irvine Kinneas kicks your ass. pew pew pew!
Quote from: Calin Leafshade on Sat 20/02/2010 15:26:53
my favourites are 5,8, 9 and possibly 6 (US numbers)
8 was the first I played to completion and after 8 7 just seemed lame.
I find it hard to take the characters seriously when they look like popeye.
and incidentally Irvine Kinneas kicks your ass. pew pew pew!
I think 7 for its time was rather good (yeah fair enough polygons n that) but for a 1997 game it was pretty cool, much better than Crystal chronicals and tactics " stubbs fag out on them "
+ Leona Lewis ...WTF why is she even on it (apart from dragging her audience across maybe)
The best is 3 or 6 or whatever you call it. No question. Voted by IGN top 100 games ever in number 3!! Beaten by Zelda and Super Mario..(lame square just third..)
If you've heard games music, you're missing the best music soundtrack for the SNES ever!
Thirteen looks pretty. Ish. But it has failed to grab me--certainly not enough to grab some overpriced next gen console (this gen?).
A little put off by twelve, because yes, the battle system was amazing for those of us who have legitimate dread of the imminent carpel tunnel syndrome, and yes, the world was detailed and gorgeous and had a lot going on, but the game was like 100+ hours of
A to B*
A to C*
A to D*
A to E*
A to F*
*do a hundred sidequests.
with a story that had its moments, but was altogether too sparse and predictable to justify its length. Almost made me miss the giant FMV festivals that were the previous 4 single player installments, but what it really did was make me wonder whether the enjoyment I'd gleaned from the earlier titles had been more a product of my own youth and lack of critical evaluation skills than of any inherent quality in their respective stories. It's left me a bit skittish about revisiting old favorites of anything.
At any rate, I did enjoy the games when I played them, but the Final Fantasy name has lost much of its appeal to me since then. Still, I would give it a try if I could afford it.
I didn't like 7 because 7 8 9 :'(
All the hate for number eight.
If it's main character had been a little more appealing, it would easily have been the best of the PS-era titles. It's certainly my favourite.
Tidus, the worst protagonist in the history of the main FF series, singlehandedly manages to sink number ten; although Wakku is almost as annoying.
Seven is too ensconced in fan nostalgia to be looked at objectively anymore.
Six was class.
Five and below are probably too archaic to be enjoyed today.
Of the offshoot series, only Tactics is worthwhile. Crystal Chronicles is hideous.
I will be purchasing number thirteen.
...
I still want a sequel to The Bouncer.
I have FF7, 10 and 12.
Yet, never beat any of them. But I will be willing to try out 13.
Why do I find Square-Enix games so damn hard?? I don't know.
8 was the first FF I ever played, and it got me my husband. So complete love for 8 above all other games in the world.
10 was fun.
7 is the game I know best without having ever played through to the end.
Couldn't even finish 12. Ugh.
3 was super fun (played it on the DS, but couldn't finish the last boss).
13 looks pretty, but it's just not giving off that FF vibe anymore. FF without Tetsuya Nomura and Nobuo Uematsu? Blasphemy. But I'll still buy it and play it, because it's pretty, and I'm such a sucker for the pretty. :P
Lame Hair XIII
Wow, all I can say is Square really loves the style over substance trip they're on. Haven't been able to stomach any of their games since FF7 (with FF9 being a noteworthy exception).
The combat looks a lot like that horrible game they released last year, Last something...(can't even remember the name). I guess Square thinks the western world isn't tired of the anime long-winded preachy narrative style they've adopted yet; me, I grew tired of it ages ago.
This teen angst anime orgy brought to you by Square and the number 13.
@ProgZmax: Your thinking of the debacle that is "The Last Remnant". To be honest the Japanese gaming industry is slowly going down the tubes. The Japanese even admit this themselves, and to be honest the gaming industry seems to be getting its best content from the Europeans of late.
I think the problem is that, pre-1997, Japan made games almost exclusively for a Japanese audience. Final Fantasy was unknown in Europe, and only a handful of the NES and SNES-era games had seen a release in the US. Japanese games were sometimes re-written, or in some cases re-designed from the ground up.
Metal Gear had a whole new story and characters, Assault Suits Valken had a chunk of it's anime-trappings abandoned in it's rebirth as Cybernator, and Magical Hat Flying Turbo Adventure became, aesthetically, a completely different game (Decap Attack).
Though there was always a hardcore element of western gamers familiar with the Japanese scene, it wasn't really until the success of FF7 that the standard JRPG model was deemed mainstream enough to be released en masse.
Since that time, the largest Japan-based publishers (Square-Enix, Capcom, Konami, etc) now have as large, or larger, market interests in the West. The Japanese audience has taken a back seat to the notion of a worldwide audience.
This raises a number of problems; what flies in Japan doesn't necessarily fly in the US/Europe.
The problem with JRPGS is that the Japanese know how they like their RPGS. A moody hero, amnesia, a world on the brink of something, random battles, dungeons, hair, etc. The Japanese JRPG audience is inherently anal, and just won't accept the western RPG model in any meaningful way. We could write this off as xenophobia, and, if you look hard enough, you might reach that conclusion. The most popular types of western games (let's call them FPS and Sandbox) might be considered as niche to them as Sound-Novels would be to us.
So the publishers try to please both audiences. Resident Evil 5 had it's action content ramped up (in these post-Gears of War days, nothing else will do), and managed to ruin the experience for everybody. Western developers are handed IPs deemed suitable (Silent Hill, Bionic Commando, etc) and manage to entirely miss the point.
But the JRPG rarely changes. Despite the cost involved, these companies just can't seem to alter their archaic templates, created to please an audience that is, in a greater sense, becoming less and less relevant. Probably because the people who grew up playing these games are now making them, and it's just accepted that this is how things are.
As a whole, the JRPG is stale. If not creatively, then aesthetically. This doesn't stop people from enjoying them, and if you can get past the overwhelming sense of deja-vu you might find a lot to enjoy.
Though you can't really argue when others complain.
EDIT: Before somebody points out the obvious, yes, a similar argument could be leveled at FPS games. But FPS games are usually developed without factoring in the need to please the Japanese audience and most western publishers don't usually expect them to sell in any great numbers in Japan. With the rising cost of games like FFXIII, Japanese publishers have come to feel a greater need to generate revenue from western markets.
And for the moment, the JRPG seems to be the only Jap-centric genre to make little or no effort to appeal to western audiences, despite the heavier titles now seeing a worldwide release.
Quote from: LimpingFish on Sun 21/02/2010 21:50:12
I think the problem is that, pre-1997, Japan made games almost exclusively for a Japanese audience. Final Fantasy was unknown in Europe, and only a handful of the NES and SNES-era games had seen a release in the US. Japanese games were sometimes re-written, or in some cases re-designed from the ground up.
Metal Gear had a whole new story and characters, Assault Suits Valken had a chunk of it's anime-trappings abandoned in it's rebirth as Cybernator, and Magical Hat Flying Turbo Adventure became, aesthetically, a completely different game (Decap Attack).
Though there was always a hardcore element of western gamers familiar with the Japanese scene, it wasn't really until the success of FF7 that the standard JRPG model was deemed mainstream enough to be released en masse.
Since that time, the largest Japan-based publishers (Square-Enix, Capcom, Konami, etc) now have as large, or larger, market interests in the West. The Japanese audience has taken a back seat to the notion of a worldwide audience.
This raise a number of problems; what flies in Japan doesn't necessarily fly in the US/Europe.
The problem with JRPGS is that the Japanese know how they like their RPGS. A moody hero, amnesia, a world on the brink of something, random battles, dungeons, hair, etc. The Japanese JRPG audience is inherently anal, and just won't accept the western RPG model in any meaningful way. We could write this off as xenophobia, and, if you look hard enough, you might reach that conclusion. The most popular types of western games (let's call them FPS and Sandbox) might be considered as niche to them as Sound-Novels would be to us.
So the publishers try to please both audiences. Resident Evil 5 had it's action content ramped up (in these post-Gears of War days, nothing else will do), and managed to ruin the experience for everybody. Western developers are handed IPs deemed suitable (Silent Hill, Bionic Commando, etc) and manage to entirely miss the point.
But the JRPG rarely changes. Despite the cost involved, these companies just can't seem to alter their archaic templates, created to please an audience that is, in a greater sense, becoming less and less relevant. Probably because the people who grew up playing these games are now making them, and it's just accepted that this is how things are.
As a whole, the JRPG is stale. If not creatively, then aesthetically. This doesn't stop people from enjoying them, and if you can get past the overwhelming sense of deja-vu you might find a lot to enjoy.
Though you can't really argue when others complain.
EDIT: Before somebody points out the obvious, yes, a similar argument could be leveled at FPS games. But FPS games are usually developed without factoring in the need to please the Japanese audience and most western publishers don't usually expect them to sell in any great numbers in Japan. With the rising cost of games like FFXIII, Japanese publishers have come to feel a greater need to generate revenue from western markets.
And for the moment, the JRPG seems to be the only Jap-centric genre to make little or no effort to appeal to western audiences, despite the heavier titles now seeing a worldwide release.
Nicely said LimpingFish, I would definetly have to agree there.
Tell us more stories about Bad Nintendo master Limping Fish! :D
I loved the first six Final Fantasy games (with the exception of 3, which I only got to play recently, which I do now also enjoy) because of their atmosphere of adventure and slightly steampunk vibe. I'm not a fan of the fantasy genre by and large, but there was something very simple and honest about it back then. You had a sword, you had some magic, you stopped the ultimate evil, your battle system was very strategic about involved planning and menus and honest to goodness levelling up along fairly straight paths.
From 7 onwards (arguably from 6 onwards) the series got bogged down in a dystopian sci-fi vibe which was different, but worked, up to the abortive FF8 when everything went a bit iffy, and suddenly you weren't on a quest to save the world but driving around in a car getting paid a salary. Then we have the reprieve of FF9, a return to the original format and practically a gaiden of the first six games, and the last FF game I especially enjoyed.
From 10 onwards we have another change of direction, similar to the sci-fi narrative in 6-7-8, but this time for haircuts and swooshy visuals and the like. As with the last trend, the first game (10) was quite playable if you could get into it, but 12 and 13 suffer from its foibles tenfold: female characters who all look identical; massive hair; costumes which make the characters look as if they were getting dressed, forgot what they were doing, and started again; and a combat system designed to make battles faster and faster, with less and less player involvement.
I'm getting it.. but kinda so I just know what my friends are talking about.
To best honest most AAA video games in recent years haven't grabbed me. I think the last game was Fahrenheit for me, and even that fell apart 3/4 of the way through.
I contend that FF has always suffered from massive hair syndrome. It was just that in the early games, the sprites were so super deformed that nobody ever noticed. :P
All we need now is Final Fantasy EMO.. its been slowly getting there.
Quote from: Dualnames on Sun 21/02/2010 22:34:45
Tell us more stories about Bad Nintendo master Limping Fish! :D
At last! A use for my repository of (un)interesting videogame-related trivia! :D
Though, it has to be said, better people than me have chronicled the history of East-to-West videogaming.
For instance, Nintendo's localization and censorship policies in the 8bit to 16bit-era are explored in this nifty article here (http://www.filibustercartoons.com/Nintendo.php).
But to demonstrate the attitude changes when trying to package an eastern game for a western audience, you just have to look at box art through the ages. We went from the totally different (say, Strider Japan (http://www.mobygames.com/game/strider/cover-art/gameCoverId,49653/) vs Strider Europe (http://www.mobygames.com/game/strider/cover-art/gameCoverId,98874/)) to the almost identical (FFVII's box art is practically uniform across the board).
Quote from: Xenogia on Mon 22/02/2010 00:13:54
To best honest most AAA video games in recent years haven't grabbed me.
The sense of excitement and
wanting to play eagerly awaited titles is largely gone from my videogaming life. :'(
Quote from: auriond on Mon 22/02/2010 00:38:57
I contend that FF has always suffered from massive hair syndrome. It was just that in the early games, the sprites were so super deformed that nobody ever noticed. :P
Indeed. The hair seems somehow worse when witnessed in 3D.
Another point about the first games is how they started off by aping the basic D&D-esque fantasy elements. Fighter, Thief, Mage, loot, etc. You played as a party of nobodies who took on certain characteristics depending on how you leveled up and such.
It wasn't really until FFIV-VI that we started being sold the wacky lone hero experience.
Anyway, none of them are a patch on Chrono Trigger!
...or Terranigma.
Quoteto be honest the gaming industry seems to be getting its best content from the Europeans of late.
I've found this to always be true, actually. Look at the plethora of interesting and original commodore 64 and Amiga games for instance; note that I didn't say they were 'good'; usually these one/two-man show games were saddled with absolutely rotten gameplay mechanics, but so many of those games had wonderful, fresh ideas and approaches. Take for example Bob's Bad Day (http://www.mobygames.com/game/amiga/bobs-bad-day), where you are literally decapitated and your head is dropped in a maze which you rotate to navigate through levels. Weird? Yes? Creative? Hell yes. The Japanese are not what I would call 'creative' as a culture; they seem to hit their stride at being clever mimics that take something they really like and then refine the hell out of it until no one really cares anymore, and that's really the problem behind their rpgs; they've plowed the soil without putting anything back in and now the fruit is withered. Their games always seem to be at their best when they have either American or European writers putting together coherent stories for them and at their worst when they peddle their usual brand of Japanese bullshit mysticism wrapped up in some other strange 'Gaia' package. Frankly I'm sick of Gaia, purple hair, and massive, pointless diatribes by central characters moments before/after a climactic battle. This is exactly why I abandoned console rpgs and returned to the more pleasing (if less flashy) pc rpgs like Arcanum, Dungeon Hack, and the various Lands of Lore-style games. They almost always have more actual
substance to them and a level of mature dialog that makes me feel like I'm part of a real adventure and not some childish, over-the-top fantasy. Shit, even when I was a kid the anime aesthetic seemed immature and silly to me, and as an adult it's just like they're insulting me every time I read a line of poor, children's book dialog. Who isn't tired of "I'll never forgive you!" and "Come again!" by now, for fuck's sake?
I mean god, "I'll never forgive you!" ? Really? How is that a momentous comment when the villain just killed your best friend?
Edit: Oddly enough, a majority of gamers seem to have enjoyed jrpgs better when they tried to conform to european standards (rollable stats, custom classes). The gerrymandering of the FF series back and forth between a full class structure of 'plain' characters to the lone-baddass-who-happens-to-need-a-party illustrates the struggle between Japanese and european approaches, and not surprisingly my favorite titles are the ones that allowed you to develop your characters into different classes (aside from FF3 US which aside from having an epically gay antagonist who needed his teeth kicked in was fun).
Quote from: ProgZmax on Mon 22/02/2010 01:06:57
Quoteto be honest the gaming industry seems to be getting its best content from the Europeans of late.
I've found this to always be true, actually. Look at the plethora of interesting and original commodore 64 and Amiga games for instance; note that I didn't say they were 'good'; usually these one/two-man show games were saddled with absolutely rotten gameplay mechanics, but so many of those games had wonderful, fresh ideas and approaches. Take for example Bob's Bad Day (http://www.mobygames.com/game/amiga/bobs-bad-day), where you are literally decapitated and your head is dropped in a maze which you rotate to navigate through levels. Weird? Yes? Creative? Hell yes. The Japanese are not what I would call 'creative' as a culture; they seem to hit their stride at being clever mimics that take something they really like and then refine the hell out of it until no one really cares anymore, and that's really the problem behind their rpgs; they've plowed the soil without putting anything back in and now the fruit is withered. Their games always seem to be at their best when they have either American or European writers putting together coherent stories for them and at their worst when they peddle their usual brand of Japanese bullshit mysticism wrapped up in some other strange 'Gaia' package. Frankly I'm sick of Gaia, purple hair, and massive, pointless diatribes by central characters moments before/after a climactic battle. This is exactly why I abandoned console rpgs and returned to the more pleasing (if less flashy) pc rpgs like Arcanum, Dungeon Hack, and the various Lands of Lore-style games. They almost always have more actual substance to them and a level of mature dialog that makes me feel like I'm part of a real adventure and not some childish, over-the-top fantasy. Shit, even when I was a kid the anime aesthetic seemed immature and silly to me, and as an adult it's just like they're insulting me every time I read a line of poor, children's book dialog. Who isn't tired of "I'll never forgive you!" and "Come again!" by now, for fuck's sake?
I mean god, "I'll never forgive you!" ? Really? How is that a momentous comment when the villain just killed your best friend?
Edit: Oddly enough, a majority of gamers seem to have enjoyed jrpgs better when they tried to conform to european standards (rollable stats, custom classes). The gerrymandering of the FF series back and forth between a full class structure of 'plain' characters to the lone-baddass-who-happens-to-need-a-party illustrates the struggle between Japanese and european approaches, and not surprisingly my favorite titles are the ones that allowed you to develop your characters into different classes (aside from FF3 US which aside from having an epically gay antagonist who needed his teeth kicked in was fun).
I have start playing more of the new homebrew stuff that I see popping up for old platforms, most notably c64, zx spectrum and amstrad cpc. :)
Quote from: ProgZmax on Mon 22/02/2010 01:06:57
Shit, even when I was a kid the anime aesthetic seemed immature and silly to me, and as an adult it's just like they're insulting me every time I read a line of poor, children's book dialog. Who isn't tired of "I'll never forgive you!" and "Come again!" by now, for fuck's sake?
I mean god, "I'll never forgive you!" ? Really? How is that a momentous comment when the villain just killed your best friend?
It's a staple of Asian drama, and is enjoyed (or derided) by adults and children alike. Same for the anime aesthetic.
LimpingFish's theory is fascinating. So the best games happened when they weren't trying to pander to an international audience? I actually sort of agree with that, if only because the introduction of voice acting kind of rooted the game in a certain culture and geographical location. I've watched the trailers for FF13 in both English and Japanese. Somehow, the entire
feel of the game changed when heard in overly-American accents against some English R&B song. In Japanese, the drama was amplified tenfold, in that uniquely Japanese-weepy sort of way, and seemed to match the visuals better. Not saying that that's somehow preferable, but somehow hearing the American accents kind of grounded it in America, and that is just jarring enough to really affect the immersion.
It's out now, fyi. This game is sweet, best Final Fantasy since 7. The visuals are beautiful and the Blu-ray player really shines on those HD pre-rendered cutscenes, no nasty compression like on the xbox :=
Are you serious? It's the most terrible, most linear Final Fantasy yet.
Nothing but a series of dungeons (well, tunnels more like) with no character interaction, no exploration, no NOTHING.
The visuals are impressive, the cutscenes are indeed very easy on the eyes but there is virtually no gameplay aside from "walk forwards, battle, watch cutscene, repeat", the story's the same jumbled mess as usual... I did not enjoy this game one bit. Scanning planets in Mass Effect 2 is more fun than this. :P
I have to agree with Al_Ninio, but not entirely. It really is ridiculously linear - the most linear FF indeed. But I still think FF12 was worse. Couldn't get past the first part of the game even - lost interest entirely in the storyline. This one is all style and no substance, but that just means it's bland, not actively awful. The story is actually easier to understand than some of the previous FFs. I do enjoy the battle mechanics which remind me of FF8, although a much dumbed-down version. And of course, the graphics are always a plus.
You're putting forward the same argument everyone does before they get past the first 5+ hours of gameplay, it opens up a lot and the combat is a long shot better than most RPG's. You need to level your team members into specific roles and create some decent paradigms and learn how to use them. It feels like a dungeon game at the start but throws a shit load of visual stimuli to keep you interested. Then once you're used to the game mechanics you can start learning the more complex elements.
It's not as hardcore a RPG as previous games but is a tonne more enjoyable to play. The story isn't a jumbled mess, it's easy enough for this dopey stoner to follow. As for the character interaction, they talk to you when you walk up to them but you have the choice to ignore it and walk away, some characters you can engage in further conversation by hitting x.
At least back up your argument a little guys!
Glad you enjoy, I'll... play a less mediocre game. :D
:-*
I'm well past 5 hours of gameplay by now, though I didn't check exactly where I am. Possibly 12 hours or so? I got the game on pre-order on Saturday.
You're right about the paradigms. That's why I think the battle mechanics are fun, though still dumbed down compared to some of the older FFs. Eidolons are tough to figure out how to use properly without automating everything though. The paradigms were a fun touch, I'll give them that. I still miss being able to control every member of the fighting party though. Still, the GAME itself is ridiculously linear. Where are the side quests? Where is the world map?
Quote from: auriond on Wed 10/03/2010 22:16:21
[...] Where are the side quests? Where is the world map?
Not having gotten this game yet, this worries me.
I loved ff12 because there was so much to do, is the game really as linear as al_ninio and auriond says? Hmm.. Maybe I should wait with this until the prize goes down.
Apparently, it's not very good (http://www.actionbutton.net/?p=631).
Very wary of picking it up now.
FF3 is my favorite on SNES.
I watched some of the battles on youtube, and people are saying how "epic" they are, but I can't see how it's even fun. Looks like a slower version of Diablo II, set to some battle music.
It looks OK, but definitely not as good as some older entries.
I just can't understand how people can still be interested in the Finale Fantasy games. I lost interest in the series after Finale Fantasy Tactics and while I tried a couple of the newer ones, they just never held my attention for long. Props go to gamers who still find the series exciting but how much longer can they keep the series afloat?
Why don't people just play the game for themselves instead of judging it on the opinions of single reviewers, this is stupid. If you don't want to fork out the cash then rent it first! It's pretty simple and if you couldn't care less about a new Final Fantasy then leave it be.
I'm not a massive Final Fantasy fan in any sense, but this one is great fun. Just because a load of fanboys got too hyped up about the release and are now devastated that it wasn't exactly like their initial vision, doesn't mean it should be overlooked.
I only argue this point because 4 of my irl friends are playing this atm and we all love it. I can see why the hardcore FF fans would be disappointed seeing as it is lacking in some places, but i honestly think it's the best console game on the market. The art direction is very imaginative without alienating the player and the story is perfectly detailed without becoming confusing. I genuinely think that the combat system is better than any previous RPG and it gives the game an awesome flow, you never want to put the controller down!
If you're a Final Fantasy fan don't cripple your chances of enjoying a great game by focusing on expectations that it doesn't meet. Play this without the Final Fantasy mindset and you will soon see that it is a great game of it's own accord that takes some of the best aspects of some timeless RPG's.
First you say to back up our arguments, then you say we're just a bunch of fanboys who got our hopes up ;)
If you don't think of it as an FF game, it really is quite fun. And that eye candy is seriously sweet.
Easy now! I think that came across wrong :) I've been looking over the Gamefaqs forums and there are a tonne of fanboys whining there, i wasn't specifically referring to anyone on these forums; just fanboys in general.
Haha. Seriously, if you enjoy a game it really doesn't matter what anyone else (Including reviewers) has to say about it. There are dozens of games that I have greatly enjoyed that received bad reviews and negative comments. It's all a matter of personal taste. I think every game, no matter if I like or dislike it, has at least one thing enjoyable about them. If I could afford it I would own every gaming system out there because they each have a game I would like to play. I bought the original XBOX just to play Shenmue. If I could afford it, after I get my 360 fixed, I would buy the PS3 just to play Heavy Rain. I'm still waiting for a universal gaming system that lets you play games from every system on one machine. Ah, wishful thinking. I probably couldn't afford such a system anyway.
No worries Chicky, I wasn't being serious ;D
One more criticism, though, and I'm done with the negativity: the story's being really draggy!
On the positive side, I'm getting quite a glow of satisfaction every time I beat a difficult boss in one go :D One thing I really like about FF battle systems is how it seems quite daunting at first, and then after a while you're throwing around jargon and flipping between combinations like you're born to do it. It feeds into the gamers' egos really well.
Quote from: Gravity on Thu 11/03/2010 12:00:29
Haha. Seriously, if you enjoy a game it really doesn't matter what anyone else (Including reviewers) has to say about it. There are dozens of games that I have greatly enjoyed that received bad reviews and negative comments. It's all a matter of personal taste. I think every game, no matter if I like or dislike it, has at least one thing enjoyable about them. If I could afford it I would own every gaming system out there because they each have a game I would like to play. I bought the original XBOX just to play Shenmue. If I could afford it, after I get my 360 fixed, I would buy the PS3 just to play Heavy Rain. I'm still waiting for a universal gaming system that lets you play games from every system on one machine. Ah, wishful thinking. I probably couldn't afford such a system anyway.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8556874.stm
Quote from: Adrian on Thu 11/03/2010 12:21:36
Quote from: Gravity on Thu 11/03/2010 12:00:29
Haha. Seriously, if you enjoy a game it really doesn't matter what anyone else (Including reviewers) has to say about it. There are dozens of games that I have greatly enjoyed that received bad reviews and negative comments. It's all a matter of personal taste. I think every game, no matter if I like or dislike it, has at least one thing enjoyable about them. If I could afford it I would own every gaming system out there because they each have a game I would like to play. I bought the original XBOX just to play Shenmue. If I could afford it, after I get my 360 fixed, I would buy the PS3 just to play Heavy Rain. I'm still waiting for a universal gaming system that lets you play games from every system on one machine. Ah, wishful thinking. I probably couldn't afford such a system anyway.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8556874.stm
Right. I remember reading about this some time ago. Can't believe I forgot about it. Thanks for reminding me.
Here in Sweden there is no such thing as renting a game. (At least not in gothenburg) If you want a game, buy it or force a friend to buy it :P
Seeing that I'm the only one in the small group of friends close to my home with a console newer than a ps2 I have to listen to reviewers and opinions before buying a game.
Now, I did heavily enjoy ff12 and the ff's for ps1 (not 8 though... oh god what a bad game :o). Do you guys think I could find myself enjoying this based on this? Or is this an entirely different experience?
Well Its good, but its not good enough.
I'm not impressed with the monsters and how they are based on each other, (at least 7,8,9,10,10-2 didnt copy the same basic structure of an enemy and just recolour it. The cheeky gets )
The weapons upgrade system is poo
The story is so complex at the beginning, I was wondering if it would be one of those games that i would never understand.
I hate how the most annoying Character has to be the best at Magic
I kinda regret bringing this subject up now
FF14 is to be an MMORPG so I am probably gonna be getting off the FF train after i have 100% this one (which will probably be in about 200hrs of gameplay
Quote from: Sinsin on Sun 21/03/2010 13:21:53
Well Its good, but its not good enough.
I'm not impressed with the monsters and how they are based on each other, (at least 7,8,9,10,10-2 didnt copy the same basic structure of an enemy and just recolour it. The cheeky gets )
The weapons upgrade system is poo
The story is so complex at the beginning, I was wondering if it would be one of those games that i would never understand.
I hate how the most annoying Character has to be the best at Magic
I kinda regret bringing this subject up now
FF14 is to be an MMORPG so I am probably gonna be getting off the FF train after i have 100% this one (which will probably be in about 200hrs of gameplay
Wasn't FF11 an MMORPG, too?
The Best were 7 and 9, IMO