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Community => General Discussion => Topic started by: Lionmonkey on Tue 29/07/2008 13:55:40

Title: Final quality in Fruity Loops.
Post by: Lionmonkey on Tue 29/07/2008 13:55:40
I'm using FL 7 for creating music, but there's one thng which always bugs me when I'm finishing a project. It's the quality of the final MP3.

I've tried setting everything on maximum and still the sound is about 50% worse than when it was in the project stage.
The worst of all gets automation. You see, I'm a big fan of it and practically everything I make gets some cool automation bits, some of which I consider like a work of god's hands.
Also there's panning. There was one work when almost 40% of it was panning. Well, MP3 doesn't seem to save it.

Wav is out of question, because it's too big. Switching FL7 for something else is too. It's just that when I listen to some of my raw projects I think, how great and awesome they are, but then I realise that I can't use them even in a video without losing a big part of their awesomness.

Okay, any tips on increasing the final quality?
Title: Re: Final quality in Fruity Loops.
Post by: DanielMax on Tue 29/07/2008 14:01:57
Export as .wav and then use another program to compress to .mp3... I've never had trouble with the quality of mp3's exported from fruity loops ???
Title: Re: Final quality in Fruity Loops.
Post by: Lionmonkey on Tue 29/07/2008 14:13:54
Quote from: DanielMax on Tue 29/07/2008 14:01:57
Export as .wav and then use another program to compress to .mp3... I've never had trouble with the quality of mp3's exported from fruity loops ???

Thanks for the advice, I'll try it. Which conpressing program do you recommend?
Title: Re: Final quality in Fruity Loops.
Post by: DanielMax on Tue 29/07/2008 14:17:16
what about SUPER (http://www.erightsoft.com/SUPER.html) it can convert anything to anything (almost) and it's free...

Oh, and the download button is a bit hard to locate on that site, but it's there...
Title: Re: Final quality in Fruity Loops.
Post by: OneDollar on Tue 29/07/2008 14:20:19
I though SUPER was mainly for converting video? I always use Audacity (http://audacity.sourceforge.net/) for audio stuff, but people seem to like DBPowerAmp (http://www.dbpoweramp.com/) too.
Title: Re: Final quality in Fruity Loops.
Post by: TwinMoon on Tue 29/07/2008 15:42:51
Are you sure you're not using weird settings when exporting? I also use FLStudio7 and exported Mp3 sounds excactly the same.

It's a stretch, but you could try updating to the latest mp3 encoder:

In the main folder "FL Studio 7" there should be a file called LAMEEnc.dll. That's the lame encoder.
You can download the latest version of it here: http://www.free-codecs.com/download/Lame_Encoder.htm  (and in various other places). You'll have to rename it to LAMEEnc.dll, or else fruityloops won't find it.

(Backup files before overwriting them of course ;) )
Title: Re: Final quality in Fruity Loops.
Post by: Akatosh on Tue 29/07/2008 16:49:47
On an unrelated note: The free trial version of Fruity Loops has no features disabled except for saving your project data? Now that's what I call cruel.
Title: Re: Final quality in Fruity Loops.
Post by: ManicMatt on Tue 29/07/2008 17:01:44
Akatosh: I guess if you made the song in one day and then recorded the music from a sound recorder that would work! Or record each instrument seperately, hehe.

Lion Monkey: Show me your exporting menu before you press export, we can see if any settings are on that might mess it up?

Title: Re: Final quality in Fruity Loops.
Post by: ambientcoffeecup on Tue 29/07/2008 17:51:15
Something's up. I use FL7 daily and I've never had problems with it not recording the panning or anything. I mean for the most part you will lose a bit of quality, also depending on the type of compression you use because you are basically taking all this raw material and condensing it down to a layerless format.

I would recommend rechecking all your audio settings under options and more importantly your rendering settings
Title: Re: Final quality in Fruity Loops.
Post by: Lionmonkey on Tue 29/07/2008 19:01:47
Quote from: ManicMatt on Tue 29/07/2008 17:01:44

Lionmonkey: Show me your exporting menu before you press export, we can see if any settings are on that might mess it up?


I usually make a couple of same MP3s with different settings in order to determine, which sounds most like the project, but here is the most usual setup:
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Quote from: ambientcoffeecup on Tue 29/07/2008 17:51:15

I would recommend rechecking all your audio settings under options and more importantly your rendering settings

I'm afraid to do so, because it may cause FL to lag again. Just tell me what of this setup could affect the problem:

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