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Title: Frank Miller's Sin City - The Movie
Post by: Al_Ninio on Sat 02/10/2004 03:44:24
Warning, brief nudity. Some gore. And lots of awesome.

http://www.movie-list.net/exclusive/sincity-480.mov

I have only read a few of the comics, and yet, this trailer has managed to get me all excited.
Even if you're not a fan of the comics, I suggest watching the trailer.
This just might be the awesomest movie ever.
Title: Re: Frank Miller's Sin City - The Movie
Post by: pslocum on Sat 02/10/2004 03:51:49
If anyone who is even slightly a fan of the comics neglects to see this, I will stab their eyes out with Gal's collection of rusty weaponry.

You have been warned.
Title: Re: Frank Miller's Sin City - The Movie
Post by: shbaz on Sat 02/10/2004 03:54:26
Whoa! I'm not a comic reader, but the artsy/bizarre style is appealing to me.
Title: Re: Frank Miller's Sin City - The Movie
Post by: evenwolf on Sat 02/10/2004 04:12:43
This was filmed down the street.


All hail Rodriguez.
Title: Re: Frank Miller's Sin City - The Movie
Post by: MrColossal on Sat 02/10/2004 04:29:23
I think it looks very unimpressive, at the risk of sounding repetative..

I understand they're trying to keep the style of the comic but... more than half the scenes they showed were just in a black room... nothing interesting about them really.

Maybe it's too early to tell but, blah, it's too boring for me from that trailer.

eric

and I've never been a fan of Frank Miller's women
Title: Re: Frank Miller's Sin City - The Movie
Post by: [Cameron] on Sat 02/10/2004 04:40:32
Sweet. Robert Rodriguez rocks.
Title: Re: Frank Miller's Sin City - The Movie
Post by: DGMacphee on Sat 02/10/2004 04:53:02
From what I understand, Rodriguez gave Miller co-directing credit -- That's how much influence Millar had on the film. So much so that Rodriguez quit the Director's Guide due to their one-director-one-film policy.

I also read news reports that Tarantino directed some of it too.
Title: Re: Frank Miller's Sin City - The Movie
Post by: [Cameron] on Sat 02/10/2004 04:59:35
Sweet. Tarantino also rocks.
Fav list.
1. Tarantion
2. Rodriguez
3. Danny Boyle
Title: Re: Frank Miller's Sin City - The Movie
Post by: Shattered Sponge on Sat 02/10/2004 11:26:34
Quote from: DGMacphee on Sat 02/10/2004 04:53:02
From what I understand, Rodriguez gave Miller co-directing credit -- That's how much influence Millar had on the film. So much so that Rodriguez quit the Director's Guide due to their one-director-one-film policy.

I also read news reports that Tarantino directed some of it too.
He directed one scene, for the princely sum of $1.

Personally, I refuse to see the film because in the penultimate shot in that preview (assuming it's the same one I already have) that woman-person spins around once.  The sound effects suggest she is spinning around repeatedly - at least three times.

THIS IS AN UNACCEPTABLE STANDARD FOR EARLY PREVIEW FOOTAGE ORIGINALLY ONLY INTENDED TO BE SHOWN AT A COMIC BOOK CONVENTION.

*fumes*
Title: Re: Frank Miller's Sin City - The Movie
Post by: Sylpher on Sat 02/10/2004 18:54:20
I have to agree with Colossal that the trailer seemed a bit boring. It seemed like each scene had an unusual block, other then the beginning, that just kind of gave you a bunch of small pieces of scene. I have a feeling that was inspired by Tarantino. I have all the confidence in the world the overall movie will be anything but boring..

Good? Who knows.. Boring. I doubt it.
Title: Re: Frank Miller's Sin City - The Movie
Post by: [Cameron] on Sun 03/10/2004 04:04:50
Quote from: Shattered Sponge on Sat 02/10/2004 11:26:34
He directed one scene, for the princely sum of $1.
Tarantino payed Rodriguez $1 for doing some usic on Kill Bill. A wonderful cycle.
Title: Re: Frank Miller's Sin City - The Movie
Post by: LGM on Thu 07/10/2004 02:25:44
If my mind serves correctly, Rodiguez did ALL the original music for Kill Bill.. But I could be mistaken.
Title: Re: Frank Miller's Sin City - The Movie
Post by: [Cameron] on Thu 07/10/2004 09:29:34
Sorry, I was the one mistaken. Robert did all the music for Kill Bill 2. RZA did the music for Kill Bill. I think anyway. And Tarantino paid Robert to direct one scene in KB2.
Title: Re: Frank Miller's Sin City - The Movie
Post by: on Thu 07/10/2004 09:54:27
Actually you're both wrong. BOTH Rodriguez and RZA did music for Kill Bill Vol. 2, but Rodriguez did the bulk of it.
Title: Re: Frank Miller's Sin City - The Movie
Post by: Al_Ninio on Fri 25/02/2005 19:07:16
Welp, an official trailer has been released.
I think the new trailer is much more appealing than the old one.
I still believe this will be a good movie.

http://www.apple.com/trailers/miramax/sin_city/

Official release date: April 1st, 2005.

I'm rather excited.
Title: Re: Frank Miller's Sin City - The Movie
Post by: LGM on Fri 25/02/2005 21:24:29
I had never heard of Sin City before this. The trailer makes me want to grab every issue of the comic I can get my hands on.. But sadly, comic book reading is an expensive habit.. Almost as bad as smoking o_0

/me marks April 1st as "Cream Your Pants Day"
Title: Re: Frank Miller's Sin City - The Movie
Post by: Sam. on Fri 25/02/2005 21:59:45
Quote from: [lgm] on Fri 25/02/2005 21:24:29
I had never heard of Sin City before this. The trailer makes me want to grab every issue of the comic I can get my hands on.. But sadly, comic book reading is an expensive habit.. Almost as bad as smoking o_0

/me marks April 1st as "Cream Your Pants Day"
except without the lung cancer. unless you consistenly sniff the glue and ink of the comics.
Title: Re: Frank Miller's Sin City - The Movie
Post by: Dart on Tue 08/03/2005 21:30:04
New trailer! ^_^

http://movies.channel.aol.com/franchise/exclusives/sin_city_movie

If this doesn't make you want to watch the movie, nothing will.
Title: Re: Frank Miller's Sin City - The Movie
Post by: evenwolf on Thu 10/03/2005 02:21:04
There have only been two trailers.

The first clip, which eric commented on long ago, was leaked from one of the dubbing houses.  A guy lost his job over it but I think the leak unintentionally served to hype people up.

This last trailer actually gives me an idea of the story, and for that I'm grateful.  I will watch this one. It looks good, and I know the visual effects coordinator - a stand up guy- so atleast it will be pretty.
Title: Re: Frank Miller's Sin City - The Movie
Post by: MrColossal on Thu 10/03/2005 02:55:05
Evenwolf? of all the posts you comment on... Its for Sin City?

But honestly, special guest director Quentin Tarantino? The hell?
Title: Re: Frank Miller's Sin City - The Movie
Post by: LGM on Thu 10/03/2005 03:10:53
I've discovered the film is in an episodic format, which accounts for so many Goddamn characters! lol. SO the film is cut up, following Willis at one point, Del Toro at another, and that weird-looking guy whose name I can't remember..

But Eric, Quentin directed one scene in the film, as did Robert in Kill Bill Vol. 2. This was discussed before.. He was paid a grand total of $1. RR was paid $1 to do original music for KBV2.
Title: Re: Frank Miller's Sin City - The Movie
Post by: MrColossal on Thu 10/03/2005 03:13:04
Yes, but I don't remember them saying "Special Guest Director Robert Rodriguez!" on kill bill 2 commercials...
Title: Re: Frank Miller's Sin City - The Movie
Post by: LGM on Thu 10/03/2005 03:17:07
Does it really matter? Obviously just a marketing scheme. It worked for Hero to tag Quint's name on it, why not for Sin City? bleh. Oh well.

It won't make a difference in the end, because this movie will rock hardcore
Title: Re: Frank Miller's Sin City - The Movie
Post by: Kweepa on Fri 11/03/2005 00:29:08
[EDIT] Doh! Just noticed page two. Never mind.
Title: Re: Frank Miller's Sin City - The Movie
Post by: evenwolf on Sat 12/03/2005 09:08:42
nothing to talk about, really.

You haven't convinced me Sin City will be a bad movie yet.
Title: Re: Frank Miller's Sin City - The Movie
Post by: MrColossal on Sat 12/03/2005 17:38:38
Well, I'm not trying to convince you, but maybe this will help:

http://movies.channel.aol.com/franchise/exclusives/sin_city_movie
Title: Re: Frank Miller's Sin City - The Movie
Post by: evenwolf on Sun 13/03/2005 08:49:28
maybe I'm going through some sort of genesis, but there are certain Big Dumb Movies that I love.  X Men 2, namely, reintroduced my love for mainstream cinema.

Watching the audience react to explosive moments or delivery of dialogue - that screening of X Men 2 is when I slowly descended back to earth after having been a film snob.

Whatever you watch its always images and its always story. That's all there is, and Sin City has my faith.
Title: Re: Frank Miller's Sin City - The Movie
Post by: MrColossal on Sun 13/03/2005 18:21:23
I'm not a film snob, I'm just kidding around.

However I think Sin City is dumb looking.

But I will agree that I enjoyed xmen 2 [except for the fact that Cerebro was in the bad guys plan AGAIN!] and I enjoyed when Wolverine went berserk.
Title: Re: Frank Miller's Sin City - The Movie
Post by: stuh505 on Mon 14/03/2005 01:01:52
XMen 2 was an exception.  It was a much better movie for it's own sake I think than any of the others in this new cartoon genre -- like spider man 1,2, the hulk, xmen1, etc...

Sin City COULD be great...it could also be average or horrible, it really depends all on the plot and acting and well, the features that you rate a movie on...which we can't rate yet!
Title: Re: Frank Miller's Sin City - The Movie
Post by: LGM on Mon 14/03/2005 01:31:03
I know Sin City will look great no matter what. That's half the battle. Now you just have to keep the audience interested with good characters, action, and of course, dialogue. It needs a plot too, but that doesn't look like it'll be a problem.
Title: Re: Frank Miller's Sin City - The Movie
Post by: on Mon 14/03/2005 15:08:00
Well, I'm a Miller-junkie, so my judgement may be questioned, but they had me at Frodo gliding in with those utter white glasses. Sweeet.

..cause I've been missing subjective imagery in movies. It's all about the effects and such, or temperature color filters, but the impact of subjective imaging can not be ignored forever muahahah!

But alas, I think they'll fudge it up. Cause you can't do good film out of good comics. Not when money is involved.
Title: Re: Frank Miller's Sin City - The Movie
Post by: c.leksutin on Mon 14/03/2005 16:08:40
I've never read this comic, nor do I know anything about Frank Miller,  But from the few previews I've seen of this film, it looks amazing.  I've always been a fan of super stylized movies and I'm thrilled to see them making there way into the mainstream.

That being said:  Robert Rodriguez has done anything that stands out in my mind.  The only film of his I've ever actually seen was Once Apon a Time in Mexico, which was just "meh"  and I know he did Spy Kids which I'm sure I'll never see.  I'll wait to reserve judgement of the actuall directing of the film untill after I see it, but I'm already a fan of the look of the film, and will go see it just for that.


C.
Title: Re: Frank Miller's Sin City - The Movie
Post by: Helm on Mon 14/03/2005 16:19:47
Sin City the comic is stylistically very interesting. It is also, in my opinion, very badly written (getting worse with each successive volume, as frank miller spirals towards inevitable and complete insanity). So I except both of this qualities to make it to the film.
Title: Re: Frank Miller's Sin City - The Movie
Post by: Ionias on Tue 15/03/2005 02:34:47
Frank Miller? I'm there. He's a bit of a hero of mine. Having turned Batman from that campy crap comic to the Dark Knight and all.

I'm a comic book movie whore. I'll go see anything, and I must say this movie is looking good. I seen the trailer on the big screen the other day. Most of the time main stream movies, big budget thrillers tend to lose the spark somewhere along the way. Batman and Batman Returns were great movies IMHO, but then they kept making sequels.Ã,  But then there is something to be said for just sitting back and shutting off your brain and just enjoying a big budget film.

Wait. I take that back. I didn't go see Catwoman. :P
Title: Re: Frank Miller's Sin City - The Movie
Post by: evenwolf on Fri 01/04/2005 10:29:57
OK, just saw a midnight screening at the coolest movie theater in the world (undisputed), the Alamo Drafthouse.

Mickey Rourke is the best you could ever ask for. 

Ebert gave this movie 4 stars and I totally see why.  There is just so much style and so many characters to watch with bedazzle.  As for the story and the performances, well they're not the strongest.  But the package is good.

And according to numerous friends, the movie is dead on accurate to the source material.
Title: Re: Frank Miller's Sin City - The Movie
Post by: Daz on Fri 01/04/2005 11:36:57
Yay, another comic movie to get over-hyped about. Jeez, i'd hate to see the film industry in 5 years time, remakes of remakes, films written about books that were based on films. Damn Hollywood.

Hey, maybe they'll even make the Alien vs Predator vs Terminator movie. I might just write a storyboard and sell it!
Title: Re: Frank Miller's Sin City - The Movie
Post by: stuh505 on Sat 02/04/2005 03:56:57
Argh -- sold out
Title: Re: Frank Miller's Sin City - The Movie
Post by: on Sat 02/04/2005 04:19:31
It's ironic because it seems like the movie-going public want remakes and sequels. Even in this forum, I remember we've had threads for Spielberg's War of the Worlds, The Grudge, The Ring 2, etc, which are all remakes. I, Robot was a crappy imagining of Asimov (much like everyone's displeasure at comic book adaptations) and we had a thread for that too. In these threads, most people seemed very interested in seeing these movies.

To be fair, we also had a thread for Eternal Sunshine, one of the most original movies I've seen in a long time, and The Motorcycle Diaries. But my point is I think the movie-going public (including many people on this forum) more so like seeing remakes and gung-ho adaptations than the "original" and "serious" films. And when you think about it, it's not always Hollywood that over-hypes these films, but also it's people who participate in threads for The Grudge, The Ring 2, War of the Worlds, I, Robot, etc, etc.
Title: Re: Frank Miller's Sin City - The Movie
Post by: Snarky on Sat 02/04/2005 04:50:45
Quote from: Helm on Mon 14/03/2005 16:19:47
Sin City the comic is stylistically very interesting. It is also, in my opinion, very badly written (getting worse with each successive volume, as frank miller spirals towards inevitable and complete insanity). So I except both of this qualities to make it to the film.

I'm with you on that. I bought the first four volumes in anticipation of the film, and although they look kinda nice, they are among the worst written comics I have ever read. It's like some adolescent's wet dream after watching too much film noir and reading too much Ellroy. They epitomize the worst of the 80s-and-on wave of "dark", "mature" comics.

It pains me that Miller is often mentioned in the same breath as Alan Moore. At the same time Milller was doing Sin City, Moore was doing From Hell. For that matter, Neil Gaiman was doing Sandman. Miller doesn't even begin to approach those two series in quality.

The film is getting a slating, too. I'm not sure I want to go see it now, even though I usually enjoy Rodriguez's movies.
Title: Re: Frank Miller's Sin City - The Movie
Post by: Las Naranjas on Sat 02/04/2005 09:21:53
The art style in Sin City was cute...for an issue.

The writing was bad, and got worse....I'm sure you could make a cute short film out of Sin City, but the source material isn't very interesting to begin with. The Comics Code Authority created an environment where showing hookers make a work groundbreaking, and Sin City, unfortunately, is a product of that.
Title: Re: Frank Miller's Sin City - The Movie
Post by: Kweepa on Sat 02/04/2005 20:48:46
Quote from: Snarky on Sat 02/04/2005 04:50:45
The film is getting a slating, too.

Hardly... 75% on rotten tomatoes isn't what I call a slating.

Went to see it last night, and thoroughly enjoyed it. It's not supposed to be deep and meaningful like From Hell. Just highly entertaining.

As for mentioning Miller and Moore together, I'd say that was perfectly reasonable, in certain contexts. They're both doing interesting things with comics. They don't have to be clones.

If you don't like it, sucks for you! :=
Title: Re: Frank Miller's Sin City - The Movie
Post by: LGM on Sat 02/04/2005 22:33:53
Well.. Just saw a matinee of this film. I have to say, I'm dissapointed, but the movie is far from being bad.

Praise: Great style, black and white was amazing. The chroma-key and rotoscoping of color was well done. Lots of great characters. As always, Robert Rodriguez's action sequences are amazing. There was plenty of violence, which is always a plus... The wonderful cast was highighted by Mickey Rourke as Marv. Best sequence in the film by far.

Critique: Alot of the 3D-enhanced effects looked rubbish and didn't fit. Some of the acting was terrible (Brittany Murphy has lost all of my respect for her...) And Elijah Wood just didn't fit as Kevin, for me anyways. As much as I love him, he just looked goofy. Maybe a little TOO much violence. As much as I love the blood and gore, sometimes there's too much for even me. The plot, of course, is too disjointed at times. Which is apparently a problem with a comic, and a problem I have noticed in RR's films.

All in all, this was a good movie. Not GREAT, like I expected it to be, but I was thoroughly impressed. This is hyper-noir for the 21st century, and it's something new... Which is exactly what RR is good at, doing new and exciting things.

BTW.. Which scene was directed by QT? I personally think it was the scene where
Spoiler
Hartigan rips off the Yellow Bastard's nuts. It's an allusion to the Chiba film "Street Fighter" where Chiba's character does the exact same thing to a rapist. And we all know QT is a fan of Chiba, and of that particular film itself.
[close]

Edit: Guess I was wrong about the scene.. Apparently it's a different one.
Title: Re: Frank Miller's Sin City - The Movie
Post by: magintz on Sat 02/04/2005 23:42:11
[brag]
I met Robert Rodriguez, and got his signature, can you believe he wouldn't sign my ass? Anywho :P
[/brag]
Title: Re: Frank Miller's Sin City - The Movie
Post by: MrColossal on Sun 03/04/2005 01:06:46
have not read it really but if someone is a fan of the series they might laugh at this:

http://progressiveboink.com/archive/simcity/
Title: Re: Frank Miller's Sin City - The Movie
Post by: LGM on Sun 03/04/2005 04:32:03
Just had a look at the Graphic Novels at the bookstore.. Didn't buy any, though, because I'm a cheap bastard and Borders is Horribly overpriced.

I have to say, this movie is the most faithful comic book adaptation to date. Each scene is practically ripped straight from the comic book. It's amazing. I guess that's what you get when Frank Miller is co-directing...
Title: Re: Frank Miller's Sin City - The Movie
Post by: Al_Ninio on Wed 06/04/2005 14:25:48
Quote from: [lgm] on Sat 02/04/2005 22:33:53
BTW.. Which scene was directed by QT? I personally think it was the scene where
Spoiler
Hartigan rips off the Yellow Bastard's nuts. It's an allusion to the Chiba film "Street Fighter" where Chiba's character does the exact same thing to a rapist. And we all know QT is a fan of Chiba, and of that particular film itself.
[close]

What "allusion"? The same thing happens in the Sin City comics. :P

I have just seen the movie and loved every second of it...

Quote from: [lgm] on Sat 02/04/2005 22:33:53
And Elijah Wood just didn't fit as Kevin, for me anyways. As much as I love him, he just looked goofy.

What? Elijah Wood was goddamn PERFECT as Kevin. He's supposed to be nerdy. You'd probably know that if you read the comics, though. ;)

But yeah, Brittany Murphy was horrible, but hey, I had no respect for her to begin with...

It isn't a GREAT movie, granted. But it is a great comic book movie.

As someone said on a different forum: "it isn't a comic book movie... It's a movie comic book".
Title: Re: Frank Miller's Sin City - The Movie
Post by: stuh505 on Sun 17/04/2005 05:11:21
I went to see it opening night but couldn't get in...but I did tonight, so here's my review.

Plot: 0/10
Acting: 0/10
Cinematography: 7/10
Music: 8/10
Action: 4/10
Overall score: 2/10

It seemed as if they wrote the plot as they were filming the movie because it is just aweful and completely random.  They try to tie things together with larger themes but it's really a pitiful attempt.

There are 3 main characters which is a risky move obviously since it means that there's less time to develope each.  It's actually not a big problem though, because they are essentially all the same character anyway, just with different faces.

Instead of having unique identifiable personalities in the characters, they all just have very flat one dimensional profiles.

All of the lines seem to have been written by the same person and they are delivered hastily and without emotion.

The supervillians are really stupid; you have a child molestor who has turned into a yellow stinking pot-belled Ferangi due to drugs to re-grow his testicles, and a Harry Potter/spider man ninja who eats human flesh to get close to God, and a crooked cop.

Probably one of the worst made movies I've ever seen!
Title: Re: Frank Miller's Sin City - The Movie
Post by: Darth Mandarb on Sun 17/04/2005 06:11:39
Oddly enough, I too just went to see this movie today.

Quote from: stuh505 on Sun 17/04/2005 05:11:21Probably one of the worst made movies I've ever seen!

Actually I rather enjoyed it, but then, I wasn't expecting anything from it (so wasn't disappointed).  I must admit that there's a part of me that, from time to time, likes to induldge in a really violent movie.  And Sin City definitely scratched that itch for me.

While I admit it wasn't great, I have two words that made it worth my while: Carla Gugino

Sorry for being a male pig, but she's just a knock-out ;)
Title: Re: Frank Miller's Sin City - The Movie
Post by: stuh505 on Sun 17/04/2005 06:38:24
There were some hot chicks!  I don't know actresses though...which one was she?  The dancer or the psycho black one?  I must say I thought the girl who had the crooked cop ex boyfriend was the hottest...but maybe I only think that because she looks like my ex.
Title: Re: Frank Miller's Sin City - The Movie
Post by: Darth Mandarb on Sun 17/04/2005 17:01:08
Carla Gugino was the parole officer.  I would like to take a moment to thank God for making her.

The dancer (Nancy) was Jessica Alba, whom I despise with a strong passion.  She looks like the character from "In Living Color" who used to put her lips on a curling iron.

The psycho black chick was Rosario Dawson ... although, I don't think she's black, I think she's Hispanic?  If you think she's hot, watch Alexander ... you won't be disappointed ;)
Title: Re: Frank Miller's Sin City - The Movie
Post by: Haddas on Sun 17/04/2005 17:02:32
Quote from: Darth Mandarb on Sun 17/04/2005 17:01:08
If you think she's hot, watch Alexander ... you won't be disappointed ;)

Why thank you ;)
You're not so bad-looking yourself
Title: Re: Frank Miller's Sin City - The Movie
Post by: 2ma2 on Sun 17/04/2005 17:23:13
So, it's the usual result then. Those who've read the book/comic or seen/heard the play/heard the play/hatever is shaking their heads in agony whilst all others say "Uh, yeah, it was ok.. nothing I'll remember though.."

Blergh.

However, they are rumors about making a feature film out of (the acclaimed by some reason) "30 days of night", and that will totally be like the comic, since it's basically a Paul Thomas Wankerson-movie but drawn and lettered. Sucky comic, sucky film. "It's ok, but nothing I'll remember.."

Constantine, anyone? "Dangerous habits" is so much better in so many ways. Why oh why`?!
Title: Re: Frank Miller's Sin City - The Movie
Post by: Al_Ninio on Sun 17/04/2005 17:39:50
Quote from: 2ma2 on Sun 17/04/2005 17:23:13
Those who've read the book/comic or seen/heard the play/heard the play/hatever is shaking their heads in agony...

It's actually quite the opposite, from what I've seen.
Those who've read the comics like the movie, those who haven't, don't.

It's a direct adaptation of the comics...
A few examples: http://www.filmrot.com/images/sincity-comparisons/sincity.html

It's the comics with bad acting. :P
Title: Re: Frank Miller's Sin City - The Movie
Post by: LGM on Sun 17/04/2005 18:07:06
I like the movie, and I didn't set hands on the comics until after I had watched it.

Maybe I'm just in love with Robert Rodriguez, or perhaps the biggest badass in cinema history, Mickey Rourke.