Elder Scrolls - Discussion

[Mati256]

I have only played Skyrim. Got a bit tired of it, but thanks to this discussion I'm playing again. I'm following the Civil Wat quest with the Imperial Guard and it's awesome.
I'm not very good with this kind of games, but Skyrim got me hooked for a long time, some times just riding my horse and killing random bandits and sometimes completing quest after quest.
I found the story to be really interesting, with all those books and tales. As for the landscapes, I haven't find anything memorable. Maybe I have been too long in the northern shores.

[Ryan Timothy B]

Another odd glitch. I won't give away the quest I was doing and who's house I was breaking into for anyone who hasn't done it yet.

Anyway, I was breaking into a house who had guards inside that would kill me on sight. I went to pick up the coin purse when I accidentally picked up up a mug. I decided since I was nearly over encumbered that I would just drop the mug right away. So I did. Next thing I knew a guard runs towards my room from behind me so I quickly moved behind a stone pillar just in time where he couldn't see me. I guess he ran into the room because I had dropped the mug. He picked it up and gave it to me through the pillar, saying "You should be careful where you put your things". lol

The Elder Scrolls games have the oddest glitches. I'm assuming they programmed that for when you're in a town or something and drop an item from your inventory - but to me it's an annoying feature regardless because I had to drop the mug again. I guess they just forgot to check whether the person handing you something you dropped was on alert to kill.

[Mati256]

Just found a Choose Your Own Adventure book in Skyrim, while doing a bedlam job for the Thieves Guild. I took a screenshot, but looks like the my "prt sc" button does not work with the game.
http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Kolb_and_the_Dragon

[InCreator]

I fail at Elder Scrolls. There's not a single new character playthrough where I wouldn't resort to cheating for 999999 gold.

It just makes no sense to me. I've travelled over enormous land to find a merchant with weapon I like and now I have to grind dozens of dungeons with crappy sword just to acquire gold needed to get this gear..
Strange, never had such dilemma in other RPG-s. Maybe because ES dungeons are more or less predictable, very long and rarely bring anything new and exciting to the gameplay.
I preferred Ayleid ruins (with cool lights and traps) in Oblivion strongly to much more boring dungeons of Skyrim, but with Oblivion, there was rarely any point to spend hour exploring the dungeon just to get 30 gold and inkwell or whatever useless crap chests had. Skyrim sort of improved on this front, but still, I guess I lack the patience to play fair.

I still prefer Oblivion to Skyrim, because I sort of enjoyed my virtual walks in pretty always-summertime forest. And cared more for the NPC's and their problems. Skyrim has shitty landscape (counts double since I live in as cold country I guess) and boring factions everywhere so no fun in that. They even managed to make crafting boring and tiresome...

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Also, Oblivion had none of GODDAMN SPIDERS

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[Ryan Timothy B]

Also, Oblivion had none of GODDAMN SPIDERS

Really? As a fear that you dislike them or are they a challenge to you? I have only had one spider attack me up close but that was because I was sent to prison for a quest and temporarily lost my bow and sword. I find them to be quite easy and not scary in the slightest. A single shot with the bow in sneak mode and they're laying on their backs - the big guy might need 3 shots, but he's generally dead before he even realizes what hit him.

I actually found the spiders in the LIMBO game to be creepy, and I don't even have a spider phobia except to the ones that can kill me in real life.

As for the dungeons, I agree. In both Oblivion and Skyrim I find them to be quite copy/paste. After your 5th or so dungeon you're left saying: I've done this before but it's different. Oblivion was worse for that. I've been to a few dungeons lately that actually surprise me with a little combat. Where I enter a room to have a dozen dead guys coming out of their sarcophagus to greet me with a fun battle. Other than that, I find the average dungeon experience to be quite unentertaining. I like a little combat mixed in with my exploring. Maybe that's something I'll look forward to once my bow reaches its max limit - I'm at 90 I think and my one handed sword is like 72. I definitely use the bow a lot. Once it maxes out I'll start using the sword only.

[Crimson Wizard]

Spiders! they were the reason I seriously considered not playing Skyrim (well, for few minutes, that is ).

As for merchants, I think I have a problem with them in nearly any RPG (perhaps except only Fallout games). When having not much money I always feel too stingy about spending them, and when I get enough, often there's nothing in the store that would match my level.
I think important reason is also that in TES games victory in combat could be achieved by clever tactics (AI is dumb anyway) and reaction.

[InCreator]

Really? As a fear that you dislike them or are they a challenge to you?

I cannot even explain this. Selective/virtual arachnephobia?

IRL, I'm not that afraid of spiders, just not very comfortable around them. Probably because spiders where I live are generally tiny and non-poisonous. I don't even kill them -- people say it's bad luck -- even though close encounter with me means death sentence to most other insects - unless they pose zero threat. I would freak out if one landed into my hair though.

However, in games, I really, really despise any encounters with spiders. Especially if in the dark. And if they jump. And are big and hairy. I almost got heart attack in Penumbra: Overture at the section where you crawled under floor or something, pitch dark and spiders EVERYWHERE making noises and attacking... OH GOD OH GOD

Skyrim spiders weren't as awful as I feared from trailers, but still I tried to dispose them as quickly as possible and not look at them.
But spider tunnels in Half-Life 2: Episode 2 (i think) were quite bad, even despite heavy weapons to deal with them.