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Title: Game music...Mp3 or midi ?
Post by: foz on Wed 07/04/2004 02:55:00
I Was wondering what people prefer.....

A game that is bigger in file size..MB but has mp3 music...

Or a smaller file and has midi...


I am thinking of doing mp3 for sound quality but would like some feedback....

I suppose doing both as the midi track used for making mp3 track is easily implemented...

I dunno....what do you guys think.?
Title: Re:Game music...Mp3 or midi ?
Post by: Moox on Wed 07/04/2004 03:02:15
ogg, instead of mp3 if u want quality
Title: Re:Game music...Mp3 or midi ?
Post by: auhsor on Wed 07/04/2004 03:04:51
Yeah ogg instead of mp3. Smaller filesize for the same quality. Having both is a good choice cos then if people don't want to download the music pack they don't have to.
Title: Re:Game music...Mp3 or midi ?
Post by: Raggit on Wed 07/04/2004 03:36:46
Speaking of OGG, where might I find a free program (besides Winamp) that will convert sound files to OGG format?
Title: Re:Game music...Mp3 or midi ?
Post by: shbaz on Wed 07/04/2004 03:37:46
I'd prefer the better sound quality- but people with slow connections wouldn't like it, so I wouldn't recommend it.
Title: Re:Game music...Mp3 or midi ?
Post by: auhsor on Wed 07/04/2004 03:51:06
Quote from: Raggit on Wed 07/04/2004 03:36:46
Speaking of OGG, where might I find a free program (besides Winamp) that will convert sound files to OGG format?
Search for 'ogg covnverter' in google. I can't try any of the programs atm cos I'm at uni, but theres quite a few there.
Title: Re:Game music...Mp3 or midi ?
Post by: foz on Wed 07/04/2004 04:38:18
Cheers guys......i`ll try this OGG you`ve be talking about......


Or was that GROG
Title: Re:Game music...Mp3 or midi ?
Post by: LGM on Wed 07/04/2004 04:58:00
www.vorbis.com (http://www.vorbis.com) Should have a converter..if not, google for OGG Drop Vorbis or something to that extent

But yes foz, use ogg if you go that route.. And even then, have it as a seperate download.
Title: Re:Game music...Mp3 or midi ?
Post by: Gregjazz on Wed 07/04/2004 05:22:04
Here's the XP version I use: http://www.vorbis.com/files/1.0/windows/oggdropXPd.zip

Nice handy quick link. The program's only 300k, too!
Title: Re:Game music...Mp3 or midi ?
Post by: Las Naranjas on Wed 07/04/2004 06:49:13
I think [unless you have done already, then my apologies] that it'd be best to give an exaple of the music you're going to use as mp3 just to make sure that there's a definate benefit in having a higher quality and file size.
Title: Re:Game music...Mp3 or midi ?
Post by: modgeulator on Wed 07/04/2004 09:57:08
If you're just working with a standard general midi sound source then there isn't a huge benefit from going with digital music. If you want to use ogg format music you might want to judge if the music justifies the additional download requirements against the improvements.
There's also a couple of benefits with midi music: you can get the music to loop more cleanly (there's always a pause with digital background music in AGS.) And you can create pseudo-interactive music using a few tricks with music queues and position seeks that glitch too much when you're using mp3/ogg.
But to just answer your question: I'd prefer bigger filesize if it had significantly better music.
Title: Re:Game music...Mp3 or midi ?
Post by: Vel on Wed 07/04/2004 10:04:13
I use winLAME(don't remember the website, google it). It gives you fully customizable quality of the ogg/mp3 sound.
Title: Re:Game music...Mp3 or midi ?
Post by: AGA on Wed 07/04/2004 11:21:51
Goldwave (http://www.goldwave.com) does OGG recording and batch conversion. There's a free, limitless (iirc) trial available on the site.
Title: Re:Game music...Mp3 or midi ?
Post by: Kinoko on Wed 07/04/2004 12:42:21
So an OGG file will be smaller in size than an mp3? I'm currently in this situation myself. I've created all my music as MIDI (that's what I prefer in most cases, by the way!) but it just sounds terrible on different computers and I really need it to sound the same as the way it does on my own computer.

I've converted all my files to high quality wav for now, and was just about to mp3 them but... should I go OGG for the smaller filesize? I don't really need high quality.
Title: Re:Game music...Mp3 or midi ?
Post by: AGA on Wed 07/04/2004 12:46:46
OGG are higher quality, and lower file size. Plus OGG is free, which means should you decide to sell your game, you wouldn't have to pay the MP3 people anything.
Title: Re:Game music...Mp3 or midi ?
Post by: foz on Wed 07/04/2004 12:58:03
I intend to use a friends studio to record the tracks..if he`s not busy.

So the quality will be a vast improvement over midi`s...using a soundcard..

And the music style will be set pieces....short sharp and concise......no looping required.....

I hope to do both options......



Can i make it so the game d/load runs with midis.....

Have an additional d/load link....when added the game plays OGG..?
Title: Re:Game music...Mp3 or midi ?
Post by: AGA on Wed 07/04/2004 13:33:05
Yes, if music.vox (the compiled MP3/WAV/OGGs) isn't in the game folder, the MIDIs will play.
Title: Re:Game music...Mp3 or midi ?
Post by: Vel on Wed 07/04/2004 13:53:26
As much as I like midi, nothing can compare to digital audio.
Title: Re:Game music...Mp3 or midi ?
Post by: foz on Wed 07/04/2004 14:46:00
AGA:  so if i got a midi file and an ogg file both called music1

When compiled it will give me a music.vox which contains the ogg and
i can have this as an option addon..?
Title: Re:Game music...Mp3 or midi ?
Post by: Moox on Wed 07/04/2004 23:08:39
Audacity is free ware and makes ogg files
Title: Re:Game music...Mp3 or midi ?
Post by: shbaz on Wed 07/04/2004 23:23:08
Audacity is a great mixer too - just wish it had more plugins.
Title: Re:Game music...Mp3 or midi ?
Post by: foz on Wed 07/04/2004 23:40:08
Ive got sound forge that does ogg........cheers everyone ..


The music is sounding very good.....
Title: Re:Game music...Mp3 or midi ?
Post by: Totoro on Thu 08/04/2004 01:18:45
So how big would a ogg sound file be compared to an mp3 of equal sound-quality?
Title: Re:Game music...Mp3 or midi ?
Post by: AGA on Thu 08/04/2004 13:35:56
foz: yup, that's how I understand it works...
Title: Re:Game music...Mp3 or midi ?
Post by: foz on Thu 08/04/2004 14:14:16
Cheers for your help everyone....

Aga: thanks......

The teaser demo will be here shortly....with OGG music...