Game of Thrones (and the gratuitous nudity therein), split from Oblivion thread

Started by selmiak, Tue 14/05/2013 06:43:36

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selmiak

Quote from: wisnoskij on Tue 14/05/2013 03:58:30
Or maybe we could have a TV series.
you mean like game of thrones? Or do you mean with less boobies?

Anian

Quote from: selmiak on Tue 14/05/2013 06:43:36you mean like game of thrones? Or do you mean with less boobies?
I never thought I'd be angry at boobies, but last episode of GoT was a such a freaking filler, friend of mine missed it and when I tried to remember what he might have missed, I realized the whole freaking episode had actually no character or story progress (except maybe 1 thing, but even that would be clear without explanation). Just a couple of sex scenes at random with completely no effect on anything and it's not the first time in this season either.

Btw Elder scrolls in a movie would be rather lame imo, most of the appeal is in the expansive mythology, atmosphere and the fact that it's happening to you, but if you put that in a movie you'd be a passive viewer of only 1 story. You can read very cool short stories, ride a dragon, fight the Daedra, explore the deep forgotten dungeons of the dwarf civilization and assassinate the king...you can't really put several days of playing content into a 2h movie or even into a series...well you might, but it just would feel like a rip off of something.
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wisnoskij

All TV shows have loads of boobies now, so I guess it would have to have lots as well.

Andail

I agree the last episode - and the one before that too, I would say - haven't been that eventful, and yes, lots of filler nudity. But I seem to recall that in both previous seasons, somewhere around episode 7 or 8 the pace slows down a lot and the plot becomes basically about transporting people from A to B.

I usually don't mind the sexual content of GoT, but I think it has to be done with some tact lest it appears cheap. If there's nudity because they choose to depict people having sex, which people have, then I don't really mind. But if it comes to the point where they just take a couple of young girls and let them strip for no apparent reason, I as a viewer will start to feel uncomfortable. It's at times like that I'm glad I haven't managed to persuade my girlfriend to watch it with me - I simply would have no good answer if she'd ask me the purpose of it all.

Apart from that issue, I still enjoy GoT, although I must say the last two episodes in season 1 remain the strongest parts for me.

Crimson Wizard

I've commenced reading the book after watching these series, and to my surprise it has much much fewer episodes mentioning nudity than the movie :).

Even before that I couldn't stop thinking that they put the nude scenes there simply because they could. Looks like some kind of daring act to me, as if producers wanted to prove they are brave enough to show, umm, content on TV.

But I know little about situation on TV around the world, maybe it is common nowadays?

Anian

Quote from: Andail on Fri 17/05/2013 13:55:35I usually don't mind the sexual content of GoT, but I think it has to be done with some tact lest it appears cheap. If there's nudity because they choose to depict people having sex, which people have, then I don't really mind. But if it comes to the point where they just take a couple of young girls and let them strip for no apparent reason, I as a viewer will start to feel uncomfortable.
Exactly, there's line where it's a show for adults and there are scenes that then don't need to be censored, but when you cross that line, then you're just insulting my intelligence and kind of indicating that you don't know why I am watching your show. And yes, sex sells, but this series should have a wider audience than porn addicts.

Quote from: Crimson Wizard on Fri 17/05/2013 14:19:37
I've commenced reading the book after watching these series, and to my surprise it has much much fewer episodes mentioning nudity than the movie :).
Actually Martin is much more interested in depicting food than sex scenes in the books.
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Monsieur OUXX

It's funny because my dad watched that episode, didn't say a word during the whole episode, except ONE word during the scene with the two girls: "gratuitous!".
The title of this thread proves he wasn't the only one to experience that feeling :)
 

Snarky


Andail

Yes Snarky, you just have to look hard enough! And use your imagination.

Mati256

Apparently Spartacus has a lot of gratuitous nudity. If you want medieval-ish combat and no nudity, then Vikings would be a great choice.
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Gamescluby

Boobies everywhere
I'm boring about tv series now
Boobies for rating

Jaffles

I've only read the books, but have been chastized for liking the series on multiple occasions. "You like GoT? You perv! That show is like a porno!" I'd hate for that to be the defining feature of such a great story, but I haven't seen the show so I can't really judge.

Love the books though!
   

Crimson Wizard

Quote from: Jaffles on Sat 18/05/2013 04:18:57
"You like GoT? You perv! That show is like a porno!"

...did anyone mention murder and mutilation? I so like how people find nudity offensive and happily watch how characters slay and torture each other.

Anian

Quote from: Crimson Wizard on Sat 18/05/2013 13:56:55...did anyone mention murder and mutilation? I so like how people find nudity offensive and happily watch how characters slay and torture each other.
But that's just it, there was basically no violence in the last few episodes, maybe a short scene or two, but definitely not that much.
I'm not all that for violence either, it can take away from the story as much as the nudity/sexual scenes can. Great example might be Spartacus series which I find basically unwatchable.
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Crimson Wizard

Quote from: Anian on Sat 18/05/2013 15:17:09
Quote from: Crimson Wizard on Sat 18/05/2013 13:56:55...did anyone mention murder and mutilation? I so like how people find nudity offensive and happily watch how characters slay and torture each other.
But that's just it, there was basically no violence in the last few episodes, maybe a short scene or two, but definitely not that much.
I'm not all that for violence either, it can take away from the story as much as the nudity/sexual scenes can. Great example might be Spartacus series which I find basically unwatchable.
Oh, well, sorry, I did not mean GoT in particular, that was just a ... generic statement. :)

But the scene of flaying a pink finger was enough for me, haha (maybe I have vivid imagination).

Snarky

Quote from: Anian on Sat 18/05/2013 15:17:09
Quote from: Crimson Wizard on Sat 18/05/2013 13:56:55...did anyone mention murder and mutilation? I so like how people find nudity offensive and happily watch how characters slay and torture each other.
But that's just it, there was basically no violence in the last few episodes, maybe a short scene or two, but definitely not that much.

Actually, I don't remember the episode before last ("Climbing the Wall," I think it was called) having any nudity, but it did have:

Spoiler
... A bunch of Wildlings falling to their death, Theon's finger being stripped to the bone and cut off, and Ros's dead body after she was tortured and murdered by Joffrey.
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This last one had the two naked girls, obviously, but that was just leading up to:

Spoiler
... Chopping of more of Theon's body parts; and then later there was the bear.
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So maybe there's some selective memory going on?

Crimson Wizard

Quote from: Snarky on Sat 18/05/2013 17:12:25
Actually, I don't remember the episode before last ("Climbing the Wall," I think it was called) having any nudity, but it did have:
There were prostitutes hired by Tyrion to repay his steward the service. That was one of the first episodes, don't remember which one.

Quote from: Snarky on Sat 18/05/2013 17:12:25
This last one had the two naked girls, obviously, but that was just leading up to:
BTW, unlike some other similar moments, this one serve the purpose, IMHO, to provide more contrast to what has followed.

waheela

This thread popping up now is so eerie. I was having a really in-depth conversation with a friend about this last night while we started re-watching the series (she was seeing it for the first time more or less). What actually surprises me is how much they've reduced the nudity since the first season. There have been at least 2-3 episodes in the third season where there's been no nudity at all, and besides the whole thing with the two women getting naked, and Robb boning his lady, I can't really think of anything off the top of my head that's been too gratuitous. I'm actually really enjoying the third season a lot more than the other seasons so far.

Igor Hardy

Quote from: waheela on Sat 18/05/2013 18:26:24
I can't really think of anything off the top of my head that's been too gratuitous.

The poses Pod's prostitutes did to the camera were the very definition of gratuitous.

waheela

Quote from: Ascovel on Sat 18/05/2013 18:45:00
Quote from: waheela on Sat 18/05/2013 18:26:24
I can't really think of anything off the top of my head that's been too gratuitous.

The poses Pod's prostitutes did to the camera were the very definition of gratuitous.

That didn't spring to mind, but now that you bring it up, I wouldn't disagree with you.

I'm not here to argue that Game of Thrones doesn't have gratuitous nudity. It's the number one thing I do not like about the show, and almost turned me away from watching it in the beginning. I don't have an issue with tasteful nudity, or nudity when it's in the show for a reason. I do have an issue though when the nudity (as a lot of it is in GoT) is degrading and unnecessary. All I wanted to say is that going back to the beginning of the series after at least a year, it was shocking to me how much more nudity there was in the first season.

A couple days ago, I had this conversation with someone else who is currently reading the books. He was actually surprised at how the books were more gratuitous than the show in a lot of ways. One of the examples he gave me was an army raiding a town and a soldier raping a girl on top of a pile of dead bodies. I know the show probably walks a fine line of wanting to follow the source material as well as titillating their audience, but at the same time not wanting to chase away people who would find this distasteful. I personally want to hope that them toning the nudity down in the third season compared to previous seasons may be a sign that they're taking the show in a better direction. Maybe I'm naive to think so, but I'll hope all the same.

Crimson Wizard

Quote from: waheela on Sat 18/05/2013 19:21:39
A couple days ago, I had this conversation with someone else who is currently reading the books. He was actually surprised at how the books were more gratuitous than the show in a lot of ways.
I might be misunderstanding the meaning of the word "gratuitous", for I did not find anything gratuitous in the book. It describes horrors of war as seen by certain characters, why is that gratuitous?

waheela

Quote from: Crimson Wizard on Mon 20/05/2013 12:40:02
Quote from: waheela on Sat 18/05/2013 19:21:39
A couple days ago, I had this conversation with someone else who is currently reading the books. He was actually surprised at how the books were more gratuitous than the show in a lot of ways.
I might be misunderstanding the meaning of the word "gratuitous", for I did not find anything gratuitous in the book. It describes horrors of war as seen by certain characters, why is that gratuitous?

I've actually never read the book, so I can't really argue the point. It's nice to hear your differing perspective though.

Retro Wolf

I love the books and the show. I also love the female body, I am a man after all!
But when I'm watching Game of Thrones I can't help but think it can be a bit too much sometimes, I don't watch shows like these to be aroused.... that's for Paul's private time later on...

arj0n


Snarky

I always find it fascinating how when you set on-set photos such as this, the sets, props, costumes and make-up all look incredibly fake. It's only with the right light and camera lenses that it seems (more or less) "real."

arj0n


Baron

OK, so I read through this thread and I still have no clue what this game is about OR (more importantly) the quality of the nudity therein.  That guy in Arj0n's screenshot looked pretty clothed to me (although he might be exposing his crotch... it's hard to tell with his hands placed as they are).  And what's this Posse Pod's Prostitute thing that Ascovel keeps talking about?!?  Basically I demand screenshots if I'm to believe there is any gratuitous nudity out there for entertainment purposes.  Otherwise I'm going to have to assume that your debate is merely theoretical and you might as well be arguing how many angels can fit on the tip of a pin.

Andail

Quote from: Mati256 on Sat 18/05/2013 01:20:00
Apparently Spartacus has a lot of gratuitous nudity. If you want medieval-ish combat and no nudity, then Vikings would be a great choice.

I don't think anyone in here has expressed a desire to avoid nudity, full stop.

I want to make perfectly clear that I'm all for all sorts of nudity and sexual content, as long as it's not sexist objectification. I hate it when people accuse others of being prude or conservative (not that it's happening here and now, just saying) for voicing criticism when it comes to these questions, instead of understanding the real issue.

Showing people perform consensual sexual activities = fine. In my book, there are no limits here. Go crazy - as long as they're adult and everyone's aboard, I don't care if they dress each other in duct tape and have poop sex. I may not enjoy watching, but that's another thing.

Letting a girl strip while her brother eyes her up as some kind of perverted cattle inspection for absolutely no conceivable reason = not fine. It's gratuitous and calculated, just meant to garner attention. It's objectifying and we don't need it.

Snarky

I would argue that although it's clearly calculated and exploitative, it's not gratuitous. The nudity in that particular scene served a very definite narrative purpose:

If I remember correctly, it's in the very first episode, before viewers know much about the universe where the series takes place. One important storytelling task at this point is to make viewers understand how this world works, and to establish contrast between the different players.

The scene establishes Viserys as a creep, giving associations to Caligula (which creates a sense of the former Targaryen dynasty as depraved and decadent; helpful at that early point for viewers to grasp the extensive backstory). His callous ambition and ruthless exploitation is portrayed through many different scenes, but this is surely one of the most striking.

Treating his sister as a piece-of-meat bargaining chip demonstrates the status of noblewomen in this society, their most important role being for political marriages and breeding (which is important to keep in mind so that the decision to marry Sansa to Joffrey doesn't seem incomprehensibly cruel), while at the same making it clear that she is actually a very valuable asset (if only, at first, for her beauty and ancestry): in fact, as we gradually come to realize, far more valuable than Viserys himself. The incestuous overtones foreshadow later revelations (Cersei and Jaime; and, as we later learn, the earlier Targaryens), and also provides dramatic tension by setting up a potential conflict between Viserys and Khal Drogo, though this isn't really developed further.

But most importantly, it serves to anchor Daenerys' character development. Her evolution from terrorized victim and instrument of men's will to a strong-willed leader in her own right, Khaleesi and Mother of Dragons, is the backbone of the whole Dothraki arc in Season 1. The effectiveness of that arc depends on her being as meek and vulnerable as possible at the outset, and her passive acceptance of this shameful treatment is a vivid demonstration of that. Also, few things establish sympathy as strongly as seeing someone unjustly mistreated. It's not a coincidence that Daenerys starts and ends the season naked: the callback makes the contrast between who she was and who she has become all the more striking, and satisfying.

TL;DR version:

Quote from: Andail on Mon 27/05/2013 10:59:46
It's objectifying and we don't need it.

The objectification is the whole point, since it establishes important plot points, character traits, information about the setting and tone. Maybe that doesn't justify the shock value, given that the show is ultimately still pretty frivolous, but there's definitely a reason for it beyond just titillation and attention.

Andail

Well, if it's not gratuitous as long as you can find any kind of explanation within the narrative, it'd be hard to find something truly gratuitous. Even if every darn woman in the show was depicted nude all the time (and let's not forget super fit and always with make up on), you could just say it's to demonstrate what a patriarchal and sexist society they live in.

Isn't it odd that no matter where they go, no matter how dirty or remote or run down a place they visit, there'll always be a female character there who's improbably sexy and just a cut-scene away from dropping all her clothes?

And, if you don't think the qualities you ascribe to Viserys would come across while at least letting his sister keep her undies on, I think you're trying too hard to defend it.

Snarky

What I was trying to get across was that I don't think you have to "try" very hard at all to find compelling storytelling reasons for that particular scene. I think Game of Thrones has a lot of gratuitous nudity, but in this instance, the nudity is used to help communicate a lot of fairly important information. So no, it's not gratuitous for telling this story. (I get the impression you're conflating "tasteful," or "portraying nudity/sexuality in a healthy, positive, non-objectifying way" with "gratuitous" as opposites, but they're in fact quite independent of each other. "Showing people perform consensual sexual activities" is probably more likely to be gratuitous on this show, since it will usually have less bearing on the story or characters.) Whether we find that story worth telling in this way is another matter.

I'm actually not all that keen on Game of Thrones, in part because I think it's ultimately a bit too frivolous to support the ugly stuff it dwells on (murders, rapes, decapitations, massacres etc.). And upholding Hollywood/fantasy tropes like practically every woman being gorgeous, impeccably styled and frequently scantily clad (or in this case naked) is one of those things I think undermines its "seriousness."

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Anian

Quote from: Mati256 on Tue 04/06/2013 00:17:00
No nudity in the last episode but it was mind blowing!!  8-0 8-0
Indeed, awesome episode, many awesome moments. And great hint in the previous episode:
Spoiler
Cersei talks to Marge about what happened to the Lord of Castamere who rebelled against the Lannisters, and that song was at the end of the 2nd season http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECewrAld3zw (song is called Rains of Castamere) and it's supposed to be like an actual song they sing in the actual world. Lyrics say it pretty much all.

So when the band started playing that song I just thought "damn, shit is about to go down".
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Snarky

Has anyone considered a Game of Thrones AGS fan game? What sort of thing would you want to do?

Anian

Quote from: Snarky on Sat 08/06/2013 13:03:28
Has anyone considered a Game of Thrones AGS fan game? What sort of thing would you want to do?
How about not making an AGS fan game out if? There's now an official RTS and RPG game, with I think a cards game (digital) in the production as well. The world is expanded as all hell, very well I might add, what kind of a contribution would an AGS adventure game, with limited to no budget, have in all this?

BUt, other than, that, you'd need somebody that doesn't actually fight that much, but talks his way out of things...so basically the narrow selection would fall on Tyrion. (I haven't read all the books yet, so I don't know if he is indeed alive in the end though, please no spoilers!)
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Snarky

Quote from: Anian on Sat 08/06/2013 13:18:09
How about not making an AGS fan game out if? There's now an official RTS and RPG game, with I think a cards game (digital) in the production as well. The world is expanded as all hell, very well I might add, what kind of a contribution would an AGS adventure game, with limited to no budget, have in all this?

Such an utterly bizarre argument! What contribution does an AGS fan game make to any of the other things people make fan games of? Star Wars? Doctor Who? Star Trek?

People make them because it's fun to explore a setting they enjoy, and play them for the same reason.

Quote from: Anian on Sat 08/06/2013 13:18:09
BUt, other than, that, you'd need somebody that doesn't actually fight that much, but talks his way out of things...so basically the narrow selection would fall on Tyrion. (I haven't read all the books yet, so I don't know if he is indeed alive in the end though, please no spoilers!)

Or Bran (or Bran + Hodor: I can see a lot of potential gameplay in that), or Varys, or Daenerys, or Sansa (or really any of the female characters apart from Brienne and Ygritte), or Jaime post-unhanding, or Petyr, or one of the Maesters...

Or you could make a game with occasional fighting. Or you could focus on one of the many stretches of events without armed struggle (I don't know why it would matter whether Tyrion makes it to the end; I wasn't suggesting that a fangame should try to adapt all seven novels). Or you could make up a new character in some less-explored part of the universe.

Has it occurred to you that one of the most popular adventure-fangame subjects is Indiana Jones, based on a series of action movies?

Anian

Quote from: Snarky on Sat 08/06/2013 14:11:56
Such an utterly bizarre argument! What contribution does an AGS fan game make to any of the other things people make fan games of? Star Wars? Doctor Who? Star Trek?

People make them because it's fun to explore a setting they enjoy, and play them for the same reason.
But GoT is so character relationship based. Unlike the examples you've given, nobody actually goes on "an adventure" (not the gameplay but an actual journey with a cause and such). I just don't think it's very compatible, unlike SW, ST, Doctor Who etc. Apart from SW universe (which gets bigger and bigger), all those (and Indiana Jones) have an episodic format where you can put any story in that this character might have done, while GoT is a story of several characters at a certain point in history.  :(

Quote from: Snarky on Sat 08/06/2013 14:11:56
Or Bran (or Bran + Hodor: I can see a lot of potential gameplay in that), or Varys, or Daenerys, or Sansa (or really any of the female characters apart from Brienne and Ygritte), or Jaime post-unhanding, or Petyr, or one of the Maesters...

Or you could make a game with occasional fighting. Or you could focus on one of the many stretches of events without armed struggle (I don't know why it would matter whether Tyrion makes it to the end; I wasn't suggesting that a fangame should try to adapt all seven novels). Or you could make up a new character in some less-explored part of the universe.

Has it occurred to you that one of the most popular adventure-fangame subjects is Indiana Jones, based on a series of action movies?
Again maybe some of them (I guess it depends on who you like in the GoT), except Sansa (again, I don't know what happens with her further down the road), who is one passive wallflower at this point. I think GoT world is a better setting for an "action" style game with deep story, than it is for an adventure game. That's about it.

And then there's Indiana Jones, well the character and the "world" of IJ is very much a adventure game turned to film (or the other way around), it has "built in" puzzles, mystery and action sequences.

It's not like you need my permission, fan away if you want.
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Igor Hardy

Quote from: Snarky on Sat 08/06/2013 13:03:28
Has anyone considered a Game of Thrones AGS fan game? What sort of thing would you want to do?

The Chronicles of Young Little Finger could be interesting. Or Tywin Lannister. Both seem to have changed a lot.

But to be honest I would prefer another Indiana Jones game with sprites from Fate of Atlantis or similar. I can't seem to forget that game and how fun it was.

Snarky

Quote from: Anian on Sat 08/06/2013 14:48:14
But GoT is so character relationship based. Unlike the examples you've given, nobody actually goes on "an adventure" (not the gameplay but an actual journey with a cause and such). I just don't think it's very compatible, unlike SW, ST, Doctor Who etc. Apart from SW universe (which gets bigger and bigger), all those (and Indiana Jones) have an episodic format where you can put any story in that this character might have done, while GoT is a story of several characters at a certain point in history.  :(

Again I have to wonder if you give these things any thought at all as you're writing them.

"Character/relationship-based": What other genre of computer game is better suited to incorporating that?
"No on goes on an adventure"... Well, let's just sit back and think about that, shall we? What are the current storylines?

-Jon Snow with the wildlings: an adventure
-Samwell & Gilly in the wilderness: an adventure
-Bran & Hodor & Rickon & Osha & Jojen & Meera: an adventure
-Arya & The Hound: an adventure
-Theon: not currently an adventure
-Jaime & Brienne: an adventure
-King's Landing crew: not an adventure
-Stannis & Melisandra & Co: occasional adventures
-Daenerys & army: an adventure (with a very large party)

I'm not suggesting all of these would make for good adventure game material, but it's absurd to deny that the show is chock full of archetypal "adventure"-type journeys and missions and quests.

But in any case, what does it matter? "Adventure game" is just a name, not a content requirement. I'd go as far as to say that most AGS games probably don't involve an "adventure" in this sense, so why couldn't you have a fan game set entirely in King's Landing, or Winterfell, or that inn everyone keeps visiting? (The Adventures of Hot Pie!)

QuoteAgain maybe some of them (I guess it depends on who you like in the GoT), except Sansa (again, I don't know what happens with her further down the road), who is one passive wallflower at this point. I think GoT world is a better setting for an "action" style game with deep story, than it is for an adventure game. That's about it.

Well, I think Sansa could have a lot of potential since there are so many "what ifs" in her story. You could do a game exploring all the different paths her fate could have taken had she done anything different. (I suspect most of them would have led to her death, which is sort of a vindication of her strategy of extreme caution. She's now married to the most decent member of the most powerful family in the realm, remember.)

QuoteAnd then there's Indiana Jones, well the character and the "world" of IJ is very much a adventure game turned to film (or the other way around), it has "built in" puzzles, mystery and action sequences.

Indy had a few elements that were suited to adventure games (a few puzzles and lots of exotic locations), and many that were much better suited to other genres: running from danger, arcade-type action sequences (on tank belts, the top of moving trains, mine cars, etc.), fisticuffs, almost constant life-and-death situations, killing Nazis by the dozen, and a "never look back" approach to storytelling. The adventure games made it work by emphasizing the elements that would work in the game, and including some of those other things in mini-games or cut-scenes, but it should be kept in mind that they are actually quite unlike the movies.

Similarly, I think Game of Thrones has some elements that would be very well suited for adventure games, and some that would be much harder to adapt. Since the books/show and the world are so sprawling, there are endless options for what to focus on. Plus there are already enough divergences between versions (I'm told) to justify modifying details to better suit your game needs.

How about playing as Ned Stark, investigating the death of your predecessor? A Conquests of the Longbow-style game about Zombie Robin Hood and his not-so-merry men? A game set north of the wall, playing a character kind of like Osha whose homestead is destroyed by White Walkers, and decides to seek a new life on the other side of the wall? Playing as one of Varys's spies, trying to keep on top of one of King's Landing's many plots? Or an assassin sent after Daenerys, having to decide where your loyalties lie?

QuoteIt's not like you need my permission, fan away if you want.

I'm not actually interested enough in the series to want to be involved in anything like that. I just thought it was a fun thing to brainstorm around, since it's a popular thing that isn't yet related to adventure games in any way, and where an adaptation could have (in my opinion) a lot of potential but also have to overcome some challenges.

Mati256

Theres also the path taken by the RPG. It's set before the king's death and it features two new characters that occasionally cross paths with the main characters of the books.
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Anian

@Snarky:
I meant that the show and books focus on the games played between characters, rather than any single adventure contained story, like say Indiana Jones. Some of those examples would of course work, there might be something there, but the rest pretty much include walk/travel and we're actually waiting to see what will happen when characters reach the place they're going to and in the process we watch basically a soap opera (not of course as bad). What are we gonna play a dozen sex scenes while Jon Snow goes with the wildlings to the Wall?

Those other ideas could be woven into an original setting and wouldn't really lose anything essential by not being in GoT universe. You understand what I'm trying to say? You can of course make a game out of everything, but I at least think GoT characteristics (what it is people like about it) would just be lost in the process.
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Snarky

I guess that depends on what it is people like about Game of Thrones. If it's mainly how sprawling and epic it is, with lots of loosely-connected storylines, then no, that's probably not something you can easily replicate in an AGS fan game. But if they think it might be fun to just play in one particular corner of the universe for a bit, I don't see why you couldn't capture in an adventure game a lot of what makes each individual storyline interesting.

Off the top of my head, with the Jon Snow storyline I think the biggest problem is that he's a complete doofus, and the wildlings never trust him, which limits gameplay scope. But what if you made Ygritte the player character? Protecting Jon, trying to keep the other wildlings on her side provides motivation for typical adventure-game doing-favors quests. Dealing with practical problems like equipment or hunting could be done as inventory puzzles. And you could weave in some more mysteries about the White Walkers etc.

If you don't see it, fair enough. But to me it seems much easier to adapt Game of Thrones than, let's say Fables.


Snarky

Reviving this thread because of this piece of news I came across on the Adventure Gamers forum: http://winteriscoming.net/2013/11/telltale-games-rumored-to-be-developing-new-game-of-thrones-video-game/

You know, my favorite part of GoT is the opening titles (this is true of a frightening number of TV shows for me), so as long as they make the travel map look like those mechanical miniature towns, I'll be satisfied.

selmiak

If this rumor is true this is good news. Game of Thrones has such a mean ending to the 3rd season and I want to know how it goes on, but I can't be bothered to read the books :-D

Igor Hardy

Quote from: selmiak on Fri 22/11/2013 23:25:01
If this rumor is true this is good news. Game of Thrones has such a mean ending to the 3rd season and I want to know how it goes on, but I can't be bothered to read the books :-D

No problem - I can spoil it for you in a minute or two.

qptain Nemo

Judging by The Walking Dead and The Wolf Among Us... well, they have some taste and skill but I highly doubt they'll do GoT justice.

selmiak

It is confirmed and a short trailer is out for the telltale GoT game.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ur1Q_tuvDRg
Sadly there are no ingame scenes yet...

The Meek Geek

I am excited about the continuation of the Saga...

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