Hello all! I'm like completely whoring the internet up for a Google Wave (http://wave.google.com/help/wave/about.html#video) invite like some ravenous mental man. Whore whore whore!
Has anyone seen this thing? I'm getting a little obsessed. Help! :'(
I sent countless emails from my gmail account using the words Google Wave over and over and over in the vain hopes I'd get an invite ... alas, it wasn't meant to be! I, too, am very anxious to try this out.
There was a Google Wave (http://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk/yabb/index.php?topic=37920.msg498301#msg498301) thread a few months ago about the subject (if you missed it back then).
Has anybody on the forums here received an invite?
Whoops sorry should have searched. I'm just too darn crazy about this whole invite business! I'm currently on a massive whore campaign across twitter to try and convince/trick or otherwise cagoule someone into giving me an invite. ;D
This is just like GMail in the early days. Pretty soon, it'll be public. What's so great about it anyway? Other than the fact that it references Firefly a million times. ;D
What's great about it? All the sexy sexiness and the fact that it pretty much reinvents everything we use on the internet! :D
I must admit, things like this don't generally excite me too much, but when I watched that Google Wave demonstration a few months ago I was blown away... Its such a powerful tool*. Almost overwhelmingly so.
*[Edit] 'tool' is the wrong word... it's a veritable toolchest... a shed even... a shed brought from the future by beautiful cyber-nymphs and filled with wonderous things.
Haha awesome. I somehow managed to blag an invite from one of the google programmers by sending him this picture:
(http://theindiestone.com/guitardave.gif)
If you got an invite does that mean that you have invites to share? And as for the "Pretty soon, it'll be public" comment:
Quote from: Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gmail)Gmail was launched as an invitation-only beta release on April 1, 2004 and it became available to the general public on February 7, 2007, though still with beta status.
It was nearly three (3) years from initial launch to public release. And thanks to the kind members here at these very forums, I've had my Gmail account since 2004 (the very year it was released mind you).
So if you consider ~3 years to be "pretty soon" then sure. :P But I wouldn't object to giving it a try prior to 2012 (the end of the world mind you haha :-*).
Not sure yet, will let you know! :D either way I'm sure in the coming weeks / months invites will keep getting added on as gmail did.
It was three years until gmail became technically public ... but it had millions of users before that because everybody that got an invite, had invites to share. It was just a clever marketing ploy by Google (who are masters 1st class at marketing). By making it "invite" only it makes people feel like it's a big deal to get an invite and thus they are "elite" and we weak-minded humans just love feeling like we're more important than others!!
I am very excited for Google Wave (Firefly references aside). It feels like the next [r]evolution in digital communication. If the only thing Wave did was cut down spam by 1% that would be enough for me to use it.
To restate my earlier point... meh. This glorified blog/chat client does, in fact, not really add functionality. It's basically stuff we've been using before, only that it clumps it together in one place. Slightly more convenience at the price of making data-mining quite a bit easier... that seems to be kinda Google's modus operandi. ;)
So, yeah, it's G-Mail 2.0. Inform me when something interesting happens.
Yes, it was nearly 3 years before GMail went public. And I lived just fine for 3 years without GMail. In fact, I don't really GMail all that much, as I seem to have a problem with received emails being delayed. Otherwise, it's great. Google Wave isn't "just another" anything, so it's a different story, but I repeat Akatosh's sentiment: "meh".
I got one nomination to give away to a lucky AGSer. It needs to be someone who's been REALLY itchy to get on it, and is super excited about being on it and simply CANNOT wait and has been tearing their hair out about not being in the first 100,000, as I only have this one spare and don't want to waste it on someone who's just curious or could gladly wait and deny someone who wanted it more. :)
Also bear in mind nominations are not instant and are not a direct invite, they simply make you a priority for Google when they send the invites out, a queue jumper if you will. Whoever it is will then be able to invite more AGSers as they will have nominations themselves.
** raises hand while just barely resisting jumping up and down shouting "me me me!!" **
I'd like it, but I think Darthy deserves it.
Consequently, I still have 94 gmail invites if anyone wants one? :)
EDIT: If there is anyone else out there who has a nomination, I am dying to get hold of one. I can't believe uncle larry forgot about me again :'(
EDIT2: for the rest of us waiting for an invite: http://googlewaveinvites.com/
LOL, so it's not even an invite, just a nomination for a queue-jump? Jesus. So much hype... I know it'll be worth it, but I despise hype nonetheless. I'm taking myself out of this thread unless there's more news about it. :P
They can't possibly be proper invites because Google want a controlled number of people in the system at the moment for testing, so if everyone had invites to invite others then ultimately the system could bloat to millions of users before the servers are known to be able to handle it. Remember it's not a beta, this is a alpha preview thingy.
I would also be interested in any extra invites anyone has laying around.
I probably already use google for way too much. Might as well provide them with the remainder of my internet soul. They make the process so fun.
I wonder if that is really the difference between Microsoft and Google. Microsoft makes the whole soul stealing process painful and leaves you feeling bitter and used in the end. Google makes it feel good and in the end it buys you a dress and tells you that it thinks you are pretty.
I want to feel pretty.
later,
-junc
Okay, sorry chaps but it's gone. Mr. Darth has been nominated since he very clearly fit the brief of 'obsessed about getting in' ;D, so at some point in (hopefully) the not so distant he can start spreading AGS Google Wave love across the boards and nominate up to 8 more as he sees fit. And so on and so on until AGS is all Waved up! :D
Hey Darth just remember how much I love you when you come round to getting your nominations/invites etc ;D
Quote from: Stee on Fri 02/10/2009 17:35:50
Hey Darth just remember how much I love you when you come round to getting your nominations/invites etc ;D
Hey Darth also remember your fellow Browncoats :D This would fulfill my dream of sending or receiving a wave sometime in my lifetime, not letting my descendants getting the first crack at it!
Quote from: Disco on Fri 02/10/2009 21:18:04
Quote from: Stee on Fri 02/10/2009 17:35:50
Hey Darth just remember how much I love you when you come round to getting your nominations/invites etc ;D
Hey Darth also remember your fellow Browncoats :D This would fulfill my dream of sending or receiving a wave sometime in my lifetime, not letting my descendants getting the first crack at it!
Hey Darth also remember that I am a person who has expressed some remote amount of interest. :P
Quote from: juncmodule on Fri 02/10/2009 10:00:22I wonder if that is really the difference between Microsoft and Google. Microsoft makes the whole soul stealing process painful and leaves you feeling bitter and used in the end. Google makes it feel good and in the end it buys you a dress and tells you that it thinks you are pretty.
I want to feel pretty.
Brilliant. But only coz it's true. :)
Quote from: Disco on Fri 02/10/2009 21:18:04
Quote from: Stee on Fri 02/10/2009 17:35:50
Hey Darth just remember how much I love you when you come round to getting your nominations/invites etc ;D
Hey Darth also remember your fellow Browncoats :D This would fulfill my dream of sending or receiving a wave sometime in my lifetime, not letting my descendants getting the first crack at it!
Somebody get this guy a gorram invite!
Haha you guys are crackin' me up!
First, BIG thanks to lemmy! I really appreciate it!
Second, IF I get the invite (and have invites to share) we'll figure something out to make sure everybody can get in there!
I've signed up to the forums.
How are you supposed to go about getting an invite?
Just linger and hope somebody decides they like you?
Invites are fun. I wish I had one. :=
Wait, that was an awful way of putting my name down. Bugger...
- Huw
I haven't tried it but..
http://googlewaveinvites.com/
Don't bother. Scammers I'll bet.
Quote from: lemmy101 on Sun 04/10/2009 23:08:49
Don't bother. Scammers I'll bet.
I'm not sure. I got this message:
"youre invited to join to google wave http://googlewaveinvites.com/invite/humanCheck.php?viewType=fcfs
"
but somehow it seemed a little dodgy. Following my previous post, I'd actually recommend against this site. Anyone can see your email so proceed at your own risk
The link came from lifehacker.com so take that as you will
http://lifehacker.com/5371489/google-wave-invites-is-a-web-site-dedicated-to-sharing-wave-invites
I have some invite "nominations" to give away. Does anyone still need one?
later,
-junc
I'd like one =)
So I'm in Google Wave now... And I can't for the life of me think of what to use it for... Me and some friends from work talked on it for a few minutes, went back to work and forgot about it
anyone actually using it?
This seems like the kind of thing that would only be useful for business purposes. Otherwise, it's like putting a toddler in a full-sized video game arcade; there's only so much the toddler can do with what he sees.
I actually agree. I think once it becomes more developed (extensions) it may appeal to people for more reasons. In it's current form it only seems to be collaborative tool.
I think for a team working on an adventure game it could be really useful. Instant feedback and modifications to images, documents, code, etc.
Setting up an AGS "wave" where we use it like a giant interactive chatroom could also be interesting.
I'm hoping to use it to expand networks at my job. I'm a web developer in a university with possibly hundreds of other web developers and I work with and collaborate with no one. It is not a very productive environment for me or the university.
I think it is one of those tools a lot like "twitter". Either you get it or you don't get it. However, I think "get it" is a weighted term in this case. I think "get it" means it is actually useful to your workflow. I use twitter as a micro RSS feed and very seldom tweet myself. I imagine Google Wave will eventually fill this kind of adapted role for many people.
I see it more as a extension of google docs in a way. With a lot more features than an office suite could ever provide.
EDIT: Nomination sent Khris. If you get in you have to repay me by going to Berlin and giving all of the Ableton developers a hug. :)
later,
-junc
I use Digsby currently to "pull everything together". It may not be GoogleWave, but it works well for me to keep track of my multiple email accounts, Facebook, Twitter, and (hopefully soon,) Skype account.
Still, I think I'd like to have a GoogleWave account and GoogleVoice account to play with. I love trying new things... (That's how I found Digsby.com) ;D
I was a bit overwhelmed with Google Wave ... it appears to have so many features that I kind of got lost. I can see it as a way to sort of replace IM, ICQ, MSN, etc (maybe; people are resistant to change). I have to agree with those who've already said it the most practical application I can see for it is for work purposes. A public AGS wave would be cool too.
I am usually skeptical about new things that claim so much "future changing" ... but Google hasn't let me down before so I'm still waiting to see where this goes. My brother and I enjoyed a nice game of competitive Sudoku. Surely that counts for something?
I've been curious about Wave since the first video was released. If anyone's got some invitations left, I'd love to get one ^_^ At Gmail I'm also Ptraci.
Everyone's saying it's so great for project management and collaborative work that I'd love to test it with some of the translation projects I have going at the moment.
I don't like the system they've been using to give invitations in exchange for ReTweets based on the number of times people posted the same thing on Twitter. It generates a lot of noise.
Nomination done Ptraci. Just a note to clarify. These are nominations that invited people can give out, not actual invites. So, there is no guarantee that you will get an invite. It just greatly increases the odds I imagine.
I would still recommend signing up here:
https://services.google.com/fb/forms/wavesignup/
As far as I know I was never nominated for an invite. I only used that form.
My gmail name is juncmodule, so if anyone else on here has an account, "Wave" me :)
later,
-junc
I signed up months ago, but I haven't heard from them yet.
Thank you for the nomination! I hope it works ^_^
What's weird is that a friend asked me if I wanted an invite and then the next day I was in. Maybe he's magical?
Wow finally someone has said about Google Wave.
It LOOKS INCREDIBLE.
Wether it will actually be useful, only time will tell. Ill definately use it when it comes out.
The live translation sounds promising since many of my friends speak different lingos it will surely help out
Im just still bummed that I didnt get an invite haha
I've just joined up with this today, but it was for having signed up for the updates on the website so dunno if it's just the next step for release or not. Anyways, this thing looks quite cool and I am already thinking of neat ways to use it :)
I got 30 invites now, yay! (well nominations, may take a few days to come through)
pm me your email address if you'd like one. :)
I want one and you know my address! ;) So let me have it! ;D Thanks ^_^ (Will catch you on chat laters at some point, once I get back from the Internetless studio! :@)
Haha already did yours, Nik! :D
I just got quite a few invitations to Wave. If anyone still wants some, send me a PM with your Google account address.
Edit: I just read back on the thread and noticed that lemmy101 also got a lot and is giving them away. Sorry for the noise :)
Just wanted to leave (leaf) a big shout out to jkohen coz his invite he gave me for "t3h wave" is awesome. Not that anybody's around to see it. :=
Quote from: monkey_05_06 on Wed 11/11/2009 22:37:12
Just wanted to leave (leaf) a big shout out to jkohen coz his invite he gave me for "t3h wave" is awesome. Not that anybody's around to see it. :=
I expect you got some invitations as well, but if not, feel free to ask me for a couple more invitations for your friends/colleagues/etc.
Cheers,
I PMed Lemmy, but he doesn't seem to be around at the moment.
Does anyone else still have some available?
Never mind.
Thanks Lemmy!
If anybody still has a Wave invitation, I have Google Voice invitations and would be willing to exchange. Send me a PM.
EDIT: Thanks Lemmy!!
Google Wave is NOT as good as I was hoping it would be. To me it's an over glorified e-mail/IM app that has a long ways to go before it is public ready. People say it's revolutionary... I guess I just don't see it.
Google Voice is MUCH better in my opinion...
Quote from: rharpe on Sat 14/11/2009 06:58:03
Google Wave is NOT as good as I was hoping it would be. To me it's an over glorified e-mail/IM app that has a long ways to go before it is public ready. People say it's revolutionary... I guess I just don't see it.
Google Voice is MUCH better in my opinion...
Oh it is. It will change the internet. If you're focussing on the wave client in your browser you're kinda missing the revolutionary point.
I could explain, but happily this guy will do it for me ;)
http://www.jasonkolb.com/weblog/2009/09/why-google-wave-is-the-coolest-thing-since-sliced-bread.html#more
Quote from: lemmy101 on Sat 14/11/2009 14:40:12
Oh it is. It will change the internet. If you're focusing on the wave client in your browser you're kinda missing the revolutionary point.
I could explain, but happily this guy will do it for me ;)
http://www.jasonkolb.com/weblog/2009/09/why-google-wave-is-the-coolest-thing-since-sliced-bread.html#more
Sorry, I couldn't make it through the full article... I think I fell a sleep.
This guy sounds so excited he must have peed himself. I'm not interested in the nuts and bolts that make this thing tick, I want to know more about how the interface will make a difference. (Because that is really the only thing that I, or anyone for that matter, can play with, right?)
Still not impressed...
Like I've said before, this thing will only be useful to certain types of people... people who will have a need for such communications tools, such as people working on collaborative projects (hell, even game developers collaborating on a project with AGS could find Wave useful). But to the average IMer or web user? Hardly.
QuoteI want to know more about how the interface will make a difference.
The
whole point of the article is that if you're focusing on the interface you're missing the point of why it IS revolutionary. Since you asked why it's revolutionary that was my answer. :p
it's kinda like 20 years ago saying 'I don't see what's so revolutionary about HTTP. All there is is some weird gaudy coloured HTML pages people have done with what their favourite bands are. What's to be excited about?' And now you're replying on the AGS board, buying books on Amazon, booking flights, doing your weekly shopping, finding directions on google maps, connecting to people on facebook, practically everyone in the western world has a PC on the internet now, and
none of this would have even existed without HTTP. Now doesn't the guy who wasn't impressed with HTTP and didn't see that as revolutionary look a bit silly?
Wave, or rather the XMPP underlying it, has the potential to have that huge an impact on the internet, that far far trancends what's visible in that one web client called 'Google Wave' that we've got at the moment. It's the nuts and bolts you're not interested in that could change absolutely everything we do on the internet today,
that's revolutionary.
To compare Wave to MSN or to Google Mail or Hotmail or Facebook, is rather like comparing two web pages with each other. Irrelevant. All you've seen is the first implementation of an MSN like Google Mail like thing
using a more far-reaching technology. It's that more far-reaching technology that's revolutionary, the MSN like and Google Mail like thing are just the first uses of that technology. The technology that is capable of much much more, and
that's why people are excited.
If you're not personally interested then that's cool, but to say you don't think it's revolutionary, not read the stuff offered that explains exactly
why it is revolutionary, and yet still deny it's revolutionary is blinkered and a little annoying and somewhat akin to creationists bleating 'show me the evidence' yet refusing to look at any of the evidence when it's offered. :p
Also as Rich says, as a collaborative tool it is already immensely useful. We're using it on a project right now and it makes a huge difference in how you can communicate on a project over stuff like MSN / email.
It will not be revolutionary for the average, ordinary web user who just IMs for fun and uses Facebook maybe.
A better analogy would be questioning how revolutionary hybrid cars are. In theory, they're the next generation of cars and should, by right, replace all the cars on the road. But in practice, hardly anybody I know has bothered to even get one, even if they're in need of a new car.
In theory, Google Wave looks insanely revolutionary and you'd think that everybody would be stampeding to use it once it's released to the public. But in practice, that might not be the case.
Quote from: TerranRich on Sun 15/11/2009 18:25:30
It will not be revolutionary for the average, ordinary web user who just IMs for fun and uses Facebook maybe.
I disagree. The whole point of XMPP is it breaks down barriers between these things, so in 10 years time receiving a phone call / SMS on your mobile, chatting on facebook, chatting on MSN, posting on AGS could all be things using XMPP.
Therefore instead of sending something to a facebook server to post on your wall, sending something to the AGS server to post in GenGen, sending something to your mobile network to send an SMS to someone's phone, sending a request to PayPal to pay for something, sending a message to Steam to invite someone to a game. All these things and many many more can communicate directly with each other without a server needing to get involved.
This means the entire internet could(and probably will) transform
wildly and massively into something you wouldn't even recognise today. In the same way HTTP transformed the bulletin board based internet people who used that knew into something they now wouldn't recognise. And what is possible with it, even for a casual user you describe, will be massively improved and somewhat akin to
the future we see on sci-fi films where everything computery from your TV to your phone to your computer is connected in a such profound way that is not possible today.
Just off the top of my head, surely a gamer, who wouldn't care about Google Wave in the slightest, would appreciate the technology that allowed him while walking home from the train station, to get an alert pop up on his mobile phone saying 'so and so has invited you to play L4D5' and pressing a button and suddenly being in the voice channel with the guys playing and saying 'hey guys, will be there in 10 minutes when I get home, save me a slot!'
This stuff isn't possible as things stand without some company writing a specific app for it, but this is just an off the top of my head example of the kind of free connectivity I'm talking about where these things just work because they are all XMPP clients, and XMPP clients
just know how to communicate with each-other no matter what they are to an XMPP client a 'text communication' or a 'voice communication' are just that. Imagine if every app, on your phone, on the internet, on your desktop, on your console, on your stereo or fridge, had this kind of power to connect blindly to anything else. That's revolutionary for everyone who uses any of this technology in any way. And Google Wave is step one on that road.
For me, personally, I'm already drowning in the flood of ideas in my head for applications I could create using "wave" technology (XMPP). Maybe it's a case of where it's mostly web developers seeing the future of the tech? I don't know what rharp does for a living so I'm just speculating.
While I'm not as convinced as the author of the article lemmy linked to that it will be a game-changer I definitely see it's potential to be one. You just never know what the masses will adopt. They adopted http and email ... and this is the next evolution of that so we'll see!
Personally; I have my adoption papers signed and ready!
Man, being a web developer is tough. I can already see I'm going to have to learn how to program web apps for XMPP. :-/
Quote from: TerranRich on Mon 16/11/2009 03:13:21
Man, being a web developer is tough. I can already see I'm going to have to learn how to program web apps for XMPP. :-/
It's not that hard. In fact the reason it's so awesome is its simplicity/extensibility. The core principal is just that any communication is represented as a chunk of XML with a from, to, message type and body, whether it's an IM, email, voice communication or a file or anything else that could be construed as 'conversation'. And that any XMPP client has their own name@domain.com address which you can send the xml directly to.
There's XMPP libraries for practically every language: http://xmpp.org/software/libraries.shtml
Quote from: lemmy101 on Sun 15/11/2009 17:47:25
If you're not personally interested then that's cool, but to say you don't think it's revolutionary, not read the stuff offered that explains exactly why it is revolutionary, and yet still deny it's revolutionary is blinkered and a little annoying and somewhat akin to creationists bleating 'show me the evidence' yet refusing to look at any of the evidence when it's offered. :p
Also as Rich says, as a collaborative tool it is already immensely useful. We're using it on a project right now and it makes a huge difference in how you can communicate on a project over stuff like MSN / email.
Sorry, I'm not trying to be an @$$... I read the full article and somewhat understand what it entails, but like anything new, more useful applications must be present before you see its true potential.
The tree has been planted but now we wait for the fruit!
Quote from: rharpe on Mon 16/11/2009 16:30:34
The tree has been planted but now we wait for the fruit!
Pfft! We clever people taste the bark! (Crunch) It's... it's... good (crunch) and high in fib- (drops dead)
Quote from: lemmy101 on Mon 16/11/2009 12:30:20There's XMPP libraries for practically every language: http://xmpp.org/software/libraries.shtml
The download for the AGS XMPP libraries seems to be missing... ???
:=
For the moment...
Oooh, I'm in!
Got my invite today and I'm in... but have no Google buddies to experiment with.
Anyone else got Google Wave give me a shout... my username is Stupot815
:-)
I haven't got a clue about all this XMPP balderdash. I just wanna play with what's available.
Um, OK. I got an invite, and I'm in. I didn't even have any interest in trying it out, but I suppose I should. I could actually have use for it in developing games with a team, or at least with one other person. Of course that doesn't help if I don't have anybody I work on BTS with, signed up.
I have no idea what my user name is, and I have no idea how this f***ing thing works. My GMail account is RichardJBrum@gmail.com so I might be under RichardJBrum.
Yep, all google things use the same account.
I have 26 "invites" so if anyone wants one start begging* ;D.
* All you need to do infact is send me a PM just saying WAVE
Also if anyone allready on there wanting to add me add "arnjeir@googlewave.com".
I've got 8 invites at the moment.
I wonder if this will change the way we cooperate while making games in a group. I got some invites anyways.
I have 12 invites (out of 16)... I started with 8 and have no idea where the other 8 came from... anyone get how that works?
Invites are no longer anything special ... it's just Google's way of making us all think getting onto Wave is something "elite" and/or "special".
It's their (admittedly brilliant) marketing ploy to draw in users. Make it seem hard to acquire and more people will want it :P
It is still in need of severe teething though... Although you're probably right about it being a bit of a marketing ploy, they wouldn't dream of leaving it wide open for everyone at this moment in time. Still way too buggy, laggy and unfinished.
I signed up for an invite but still haven't received one. So if someone has one to spare, I'd love an invite. Can't promise I will actually end up using Google Wave, but I'd sure as hell like to see it in action (so I guess their marketing ploy did work :)). Cheers.
Edit: Getting one from Darth. Many thanks!