He was found yesterday in his apartment with a bottle of sleeping pills, cops aren't ruling out suicide or accidental overdose.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heath_Ledger#Death
http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/01/22/actor-heath-ledger-is-found-dead/
I saw that when i came home and went online. I was shocked by this.
R.I.P. Heath Ledger
Yes, I just found out about this too. It was very shocking and unexpected.
I wonder how this will affect the new Batman movie. Maybe his last performance will become a thing of legend.
No!? What the hell? Fuck...! :(
Right there with you, victor, all I could think was "what the bloody fuck?".
RIP dude. You shouldn't've.
Such a [not shocking] tragedy. What a waste.
I just don't know why celebrities are still, in this day and age, dying of drug overdoses. You really think people would learn. I guess that's putting too much faith in humanity.
And of course Hollywood will still release the new Batman movie ... and they'll even use his death to hype it. This is Hollywood we're talking about.
They will Darth, and it'll become the biggest seller of the year. Some could say that's a cynical view, but it's how Hollywood will use it.
I got a huge shock. He's a seriously underrated and underappreciated actor. And he's got a fairly clean image so I didn't expect him to go down the usual Hollywood drug-ridden way.
I suspect that the fact that celebrities are still dying of drug overdoses just highlights how dependent we (as a society) are on drugs. I mean, normal people already are; I'm quite alarmed at how some people pop painkillers at the slightest sign of a headache. So I don't blame the celebrities; just this general idea that drugs can do everything.
Shocking loss.
RIP
This is truly awful. The guy didn't have any history of substance abuse as far as I know, so to me it's quite shocking. I was gutted when I opened up my daily news aggregator this morning and saw "Heath Ledger dead" right at the top. The guy really was a fantastic actor.
And the worst part of it, to me, is that he's leaving behind a two year old daughter. Having one of those myself, even though he was separated from the mother of the girl, I can't imagine that anyone but the most selfish person would ever do that on purpose, so I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt for now and assuming that this was a terrible accident.
And of course they'll release the new Batman, movie, Darth. No studio is going to can a 90% complete hundred-million dollar project for any reason, and you'd be silly to think that Heath Ledger would want that. As for using his death to hype a movie, yes, the fact that his death is going to be reported by all the news sources is going to spread word of the movie a little bit further, and yes, I'm sure the director, producers, and co-stars will release some statements of grief and consolation which will get some attention from the media as well, but it's not like there are going to be commercials that say "Heath Ledger is dead! Be sure to see his last movie, The Dark Night!"
I'm first and foremost sad for his daughter, and way way lower on the scale of worry lies Terry Gilliam's new film The Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus in which Ledger was playing the second lead and was somewhere in mid-filming. Gilliam's pet projects have historically been plagued with terrible luck and tragedies that get them canceled mid-production.
Quote from: Vince Twelve on Wed 23/01/2008 03:27:27And of course they'll release the new Batman, movie, Darth.
I never said they wouldn't ;) Never even entered my mind.
In fact I said nearly the same thing you did:
Quote from: Darth Mandarb on Wed 23/01/2008 02:00:53And of course Hollywood will still release the new Batman movie ... and they'll even use his death to hype it. This is Hollywood we're talking about.
I was referring to how your post seemed to be be expressing shock or disgust that Hollywood would do such a thing. Like "And of course those money grubbing bastards will still release the movie, thereby shitting all over Ledger's grave." But maybe I interpreted it wrong. ;) :P
I still disagree with the statement about using his death to hype the movie.
Gotcha!
Wasn't my intention ... just expressing the obvious that they would still release the movie. That part I don't blame them for (or have shock or disgust). Business is business.
And while I don't agree with using his death to hype the movie they will almost certainly do just that. It's disgusting ... but they will do it.
In what way?
I see what Darth's saying, really. Something similar happened with Brandon Lee and The Crow. He'd only attained a mid-range status in Hollywood at the time of his death, but they saw to it that the mystique and the wonder surrounding his family, supposed mafia connections, and the film itself turned him into a cult icon almost overnight. I'm not going to lie and say I thought Heath Ledger was an awesome actor; truth be told, I thought he was average in most of the films I've seen him in, but that doesn't mean I don't feel sympathy that he's dead -- no more or less than I would feel for any human being that died under tragic and troubled circumstances. Celebrity meltdowns serve, if anything, to remind the 'average' person that having all that fame, money, and popularity really isn't as wonderful as some think.
ProgZ - it's funny 'cause I was talkin' to a friend of mine earlier and that's the same example I used with him (about Brandon Lee and The Crow). It's not even that great of a movie (terrible acting) yet it now has this cult following 'cause of Lee's untimely death while filming.
I remember really wanting to go see it when it came out because I saw some press for the movie hypin' up how they used new computer technology to "fill in" for Lee in scenes they hadn't filmed before he died.
Quote from: Vince Twelve on Wed 23/01/2008 05:05:38In what way?
There will be press for it that will say, "See Heath Ledger's last movie before his tragic death..." or any number of other combinations of using the fact that he's dead in relationship to the movie. I've seen it countless times before. It's just the way it goes.
This is very sad news, indeed. Ledger was a young man with a promising career ahead of him, a father of a young daughter, and by all accounts a respected and well-liked actor by his colleagues. To see all that destroyed in a single stroke... It is of course first and foremost a tragedy for his family. :'(
The reason this is getting such attention, though, has to be that a truly promising talent has been lost. Ledger was just starting to realize his potential, and after Brokeback Mountain and his much-buzzed-about role in the upcoming Batman sequel, looked set to turn into a major star as well as a remarkable actor. And his private life was not constantly in the tabloids, he was not known for stints in rehab or self-destructive behavior, so this comes as a complete surprise.
Darth, the press is going to talk about TDK being his last film, of course. How could they not? He's one of the main co-stars, if not the star of the movie. All the publicity has been focusing on his character. Even if the studio would rather people forget he's dead, they couldn't do anything about it. So yeah, they'll try to spin it so it won't hurt the box office. I don't think they'll make a huge deal of it, though. That would just seem crass and put people off. The reason it became such a big part of the hype for The Crow was that the film was pitched at the goth kids, and that all the morbid imagery in that film resonated so much with the death of Lee (which by itself reminded people of the untimely death of his father). Although the Joker is also a morbid character, the Batman movies aim more for the mainstream. As I recall it, the studio line (at least in public) is usually much more tasteful.
Interesting as it may be to gossip and speculate about the cause of death, it doesn't serve a lot of purpose now. The reports talk about drugs (sleeping pills, which doesn't necessarily indicate a drug habit), but no one really knows. Whether suicide, accidental overdose, some sort of drug interaction, or a completely unrelated cause, there was no reason he had to die. No matter if he was troubled or just unlucky, an end like this is senseless.
RIP Heath Ledger
Man, with Adrianne Shelley murdered, Owen Wilson attempting suicide, Brad Renfro recently OD'ing and whatnot, being a Hollywood star is starting to look like a job likely to kill you. At least this time we were spared the slow-motion trainwreck that was Anna Nicole Smith, and is Britney Spears, Lindsey Lohan, Amy Winehouse, et al.
Snarky said what I was trying to get at here. I don't think that the producers are going to do anything more than what amounts to acknowledging that this is perhaps Ledger's last film and that is far from the crass exploitation that you seem to be suggesting will be taking place.
A stupid death... ergo, double sad. :'(
The Joker. :(
And you cannot go anywhere with an online community without reading about "how selfish actors and hollywood types are", and "of COURSE it was an OD...all actors die for ODs". Not that I read that here, mind you, but still. If anyone read the artiles in all the papers, he had pneumonia (sp?). I've had it, it sucks, and taking normal amount of household meds can make you much, much sicker. Forget sleeping pills. It sucks, and it's so sad. I've been looking foward to the new Batman flick. It's gona be great to see Bale and Ledger onscreen together. They're two of my favorite actors in their generation, and the fact that I won't be seeing them together on film again afterwards just sucks.
I hope that it's something innocent. I'd be beyond happy to keep all this respect for him.
RIP
I called my buddy to wish him a happy birthday and he tells me this story. Wow just crazy. And another good friend of mine has been anxiously awaiting the new Batman film. I expect them to dedicate that movie or the other film he finished recently to his life, they're editing it into the opening scene right this very minute...or at least they probably should be.
Really liked this guy, very sad to hear that he died.
There's now a baptist church who are going to picket his funeral. They have stated that he was punished by god for appearing in Brokeback Mountain. Those cooky christians, I never tire of their antics :(
Hmm.
I've always said and I'll say it again.
Whenever people have something to promote they get themselves in the papers.
Britney's recent escapades with her children happened on the eve of the release of a single. Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie get together to promote Mr n Mrs Smith.
When Katie Holmes and Tom Cruise got together they both had films coming out (coincidentally, hers was 'Batman Begins'). And now this...
There are examples of this every single day and I've probably mentioned it before elsewhere on these boards. Now I don't really think Heath Ledger killed himself to promote the movie... but what's to say it wasn't a murder planned by the distributors of the Dark Knight... The movie and music industries (especially in America) go to some great lengths for the sake of a publicity.
[Disclaimer - I'm not making any allegations, just speculating].
Heh, I just got out of the tub and while still in there I was wondering how long it'd take until some conspiracy nut brought up exactly that theory. := Seriously!
Like killing off one of their leads, who they could have used to promote the film further upon its release?
Its a sad loss. I've not seen Brokeback Mountain, but I thought he was a pretty good actor in his other films. Still, I'm with Vince, this is a tragedy for his 2 year old daughter.
I was shocked when I read the message on CNN. RIP Heath.
Quote from: Stupot on Wed 23/01/2008 11:09:10
There are examples of this every single day and I've probably mentioned it before elsewhere on these boards. Now I don't really think Heath Ledger killed himself to promote the movie... but what's to say it wasn't a murder planned by the distributors of the Dark Knight... The movie and music industries (especially in America) go to some great lengths for the sake of a publicity.
[Disclaimer - I'm not making any allegations, just speculating].
Are you serious about that? Do you really "speculate" that this "american film distributors" hired someone to kill a 29 years old guy with a 2 years old daughter just to promote a movie?
If you are rally serious, you must be really sick, man. :P
Why So Serious?
Maybe the pills didn't work. I did read he was having alot of trouble sleeping. Apparantly quite disturbed after doing the joker. Take a few sleeping pills. Not sleeping... take a few more, still not sleeping, take a few more, body cant take it and shuts down.
It could have been an accident. Actors cram a years worth of work into 3 months sometimes, it's not suprise some burn out, develop issues, and after playing such a psycologically disturbed and insane character for 3 months, something in the brain might go, hey what the f**k, this isn't me, cause nightmares or the like. And he went straight on to film another film.
Stress can do some pretty fucked up things to your body.
From the NewYork Times (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/23/movies/23ledger.html?_r=2&hp&oref=slogin&oref=slogin)
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The police said Mr. Ledger, 28, was found naked on the floor near the bed in an apartment in SoHo that he had been renting. The chief police spokesman, Paul J. Browne, said the police did not suspect foul play.
“There was no indication of a disturbance,” he said, adding that there were no signs that Mr. Ledger had been drinking. Nor were any illegal drugs found in the loft, which takes up the entire fourth floor. Neighbors said Mr. Ledger had occupied it for several months.
Police officials said that a bottle of prescription sleeping pills was found on a nearby night table, but that they did not know whether the pills had anything to do with Mr. Ledger’s death. Officers who checked the apartment found other prescription medications in the bathroom. A spokeswoman for the medical examiner’s office said an autopsy would be conducted on Wednesday*.
Mr. Browne said no obvious indication of suicide, like a note, was found in the bedroom.
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Let's wait for the autopsy...and hope for the 'best' (that is: no OD, no suicide, but an unfortunate accident)
I don't really think there was any foul play involved... at least not for the sake of promoting Batman. But I was using this extreme example to bring up a point I've been making for years but that nobody else seems to have picked up on. The fact that every celebrity marriage, divorce, pregnancy, rehabilitation programme and drunken brawl with photographer nearly always occurs in the run-up to a major single, album, movie release.
I'm not even exaggerating, if you look out for it you'll see it. Recently Britney had that turn-out where she went bonkers because she didn't want to give her kids back after having them for the day... police were called and the whole event was worldwide "news" for days... then I hear her new single on the Radio... I was not surprised.
These things could well be coincidences, but they always occur and if you start to notice them you will really be amazed at this phenomenon.
My (perhaps ill-thought-out) post earlier was just my way of expressing my lack of shock whenever someone is in the news on the run-up to a major release... A sad death it is, and to suggest it was a promotional stunt may have been a step too far, and maybe I should take it back... but not yet... I wanna see how the autopsy pans out first.
I'm pretty sure I've ranted about this phenomenon before... and I reckon everyone should look out for it. It really is amazing. When the day comes that Brad and Angelina decide to divorce, I guarantee that they will both have movies out within the following month or so.
It' s curious that people who launches conspiranoid theories allways claim something like "I don't really think that there was something odd involved there, actually, but think of it!".
You throw the stone, and hide the hand.
Attitudes like those are the ones that make the idiots believe that there was not a plane in the Pentagon on 9/11 because "You know? There are no photos of a plane crashing into the building! :o I am not saying that the US government launched a missile, but... think of it! :o" Yeah, I thought of it, and, wanna know what I think? There are millions of evidences that a commercial aircraft crashed there, and, shit; If flight 77 did not end in the Pentagon... where the hell it ended? Do you claim that the US government kidnapped a plane, and in spite of crashing it into the Pentagon to blame the terrorist, took the plane to Area 51 and launched a missile painted with the AA colours into the Pentagon?
Sorry, but I think that it is more likely that the event was not recorded than believing that shit.
And I preffer to believe that Heath pissed it if with the dose, or that he suicided, that Warner Bros killed him.
Conspiranoids are not only naive enough to believe that crap, but also coward... A real shame. :P Please, think twice before spreading that kind of things.
AGS new word of the day "conspiranoid"
I love it!
Thanks Farl! ;)
I was reading an article, and apparently the autopsy has been claimed "inconclusive." They are performing a more in-depth autopsy now, but I feel like there is more to this.
Let's look at the factors, shall we? Ledger's personal life was not widely proclaimed in tabloids and second-rate news syndicates. Who knows why? There are some celebrities that are just lucky with the press, I guess... But that doesn't mean Ledger wasn't struggling with vices of his own.
Does nobody remember that Ledger was booted by his wife? And that that meant he probably never spent time with his daughter? He's an actor who just spent a long span of time creating an evil villain and giving his entire self to the role. How much time did that leave him to be a good father? Especially when his wife apparently didn't want to be around him.
I don't know if this is true, but I was reading, and apparently they split because Ledger was suffering from a heroin (or some other harsh drug) addiction. That is alleged, of course, but I would not be surprised. Quotes from Ledger have suggested that he was not happy with his career choices. He felt like he was being pushed around by studios because they were determined to turn him into a "brand." Only recently has he been pursuing roles of his own choosing, but perhaps it was too late. Perhaps he just wasn't happy, so he turned to other vices. Typical celebrity sob story, no?
I'm not saying he died of an overdose here, nobody can say that except the one performing the autopsy. And even then, that's not always clear. It took weeks to figure out why Anna Nicole Smith died, and in the end, it didn't matter. She was dead.
All in all, I'd say Ledger, because he is a method actor, confronted some dark places in his soul when bringing out the character of Joker... And I feel like perhaps he went a little insane doing it. That is the dramatic interpretation. He could very well have just been sick and took too many medications because they weren't working.
So, I guess I'm saying... Nobody knows what went down that day, but Ledger is dead and his family is mourning. The country is mourning. It's sad, tragic... yes. But it happens. Every day. The human body is frail and susceptible to many dangerous things that can kill us in an instant. Just because Ledger was graced with the talent, fame, and life he was given... Doesn't mean he was any less vulnerable than the rest of us.
This is indeed sad news. I am looking forward to seeing his performance in The Dark Knight... And I hope it will be just as brilliant as anyone could imagine. May he be remembered for his talents, and may this all be a lesson to the world that life is fleeting... And we must embrace it for the time we are giving, because for some it is very, very short.
Quote from: Stupot on Wed 23/01/2008 17:01:26
The fact that every celebrity marriage, divorce, pregnancy, rehabilitation programme and drunken brawl with photographer nearly always occurs in the run-up to a major single, album, movie release.
If there is a pattern, maybe you're looking at it the wrong way? Perhaps its because of the stress involved in the run up to major singles, albums and movie releases that causes these breakdowns?
Conspiranoic is the English version of a word that we use often in spanish skeptical communities... Not common in the rest of the world? ???
Quote from: Nacho on Wed 23/01/2008 22:25:43Conspiranoic is the English version of a word that we use often in spanish skeptical communities... Not common in the rest of the world?
It might be common elsewhere ... but I've never heard it before!
I thought it was a combination of Conspiracy Theorist + Paranoid = Conspiranoid!
Either way, it's now a word in my vocabulary :)
I should also add that some douchebag made the news by asking Jack Nicholson if he'd sign a photo of him as the Joker, right after Nicholson heard the news of Ledger. Nicholson's response to Ledger's death? "That's awful. I warned him."
I've never said 9/11 was a conspiracy... I have a wide interest in conspiracy theorism, but I scarcely believe in them.
But it's naive to think that there aren't any conspiracies going on in this world. Of course there are... However they would be crap conspiracies if we all knew about them.
There should be a new word in our vocabulary for people who dismiss everyone as 'paranoid' or 'a nut' just for suggesting that something fishy might be going on.
Heartwarming tributes from Best Buy
(http://www.bestweekever.tv/bwe/images/2008/01/HEATHLEDGEMEMORIAL.jpg)
and the Westboro Baptist Church
(http://64.111.216.18/ul/5755-heath.jpg)
Ugh, I hope that's just a local Best Buy having a sale like that.
And the WBC disgusts and scares me at the same time. Those people have a lot of nerve calling themselves Christian.
Quote from: MoodyBlues on Thu 24/01/2008 01:53:52
Ugh, I hope that's just a local Best Buy having a sale like that.
And the WBC disgusts and scares me at the same time. Those people have a lot of nerve calling themselves Christian.
Those people are known everywhere at this point, and they're 100% insane and ignorant of their own religious literature. They don't even have an ounce of a clue, so I wouldn't listen to anything they say and do your best to ignore it. They probably won't get within a thousand feet of the funeral, but if they keep up the way they're going, it wouldn't shock me if somebody decided to put an end to their freedom of speech...and that somebody would be my new hero.
Stupot, I think there is a word for people who does not tend to believe that there' s something fishy going on everywhere, specially if no further evidences of that have been shown: Intelligent.
:-*
Quote from: MoodyBlues on Thu 24/01/2008 01:53:52
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And the WBC disgusts and scares me at the same time. Those people have a lot of nerve calling themselves Christian.
hmm, I think there is something "fishy" going on here. Too provocative.
Fuck you, Phelps. Hope 'yall rot.
That baptist church thingie seems pretty fake to me. Not that it doesn't nail the typical bible-belt hillbilly mentality quite well, but still...
no no, Westboro church is very real, and they are protesting. But it's important that they be distinguished from the rest of the Christian world. They are insane, and they practice a religion that defies logic, the Bible, and human nature. They're, in a sense, Evil... But I'd rather just say horribly misled.
Misled my ass.
I'm not excusing the founder and leaders of this fucked up congregation, don't get me wrong. But essentially they are all mostly related somehow. So, kids growing up in this kind of surrounding are raised to hate pretty much anything. You can't blame those people, hence the misled. But there is no doubt that there are plenty in that church that are warped, convoluted, and ultimately insane. I really feel sorry for them. As a Christian myself (albeit a self-admittedly liberal and most-likely hypocritical one) I wouldn't wish death upon them... But I do wish someone would do something to shut them up, disband them, or make them disappear.
I can pretty much guarantee the world would be a better place without them.
The world would be a better place without a lot of people, but as Westboro seems to have forgotten, the Bible also includes this:
Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.
I am also aware that this sentence was not meant to be interpreted as 'you cannot judge anyone'; it merely means that you need to know yourself before you can step forward and cast judgment on others, and Westboro's use of 'fag' and other strangely inappropriate language for a religious foundation would indicate (to me) that they are passing some kind of judgment on a man for play-acting a role.
I do not agree with homosexuality myself, but their words seethe anger and hatred rather than disagreement. It's like watching America go to Defcon 5 in some 80's film because a dumb kid can't beat a really bad AI at chess; unfrigginbelievable.
I agree ProgZ. That is exactly correct. How can you judge someone without first judging yourself? They seem to throw that notion right out the window, which I believe myself to be one of the most important lessons to take away from the Bible.
The point of Christianity is to accept the world as it is, and offer your beliefs to those who want to hear it. Not judge them, condemn them to hell, and sit on your high and mighty horse. You can't force faith onto the unwilling, and I wish people would stop trying. All you can do is offer what you believe to those who ask. If they don't, just leave them alone and try not to judge them. That's God's job.
'God hates fags'...was it not that God hates the SIN but not the sinner? If you look at it in a different angle, why are these guys so obsessed with what other people do in bed? IMHO they're the perverts.
I most definately agree to judge oneself before judging others (probably why it's so easy for me).
Quote from: LGM on Thu 24/01/2008 18:45:09
--The point of Christianity is to accept the world as it is, and offer your beliefs to those who want to hear it. Not judge them, condemn them to hell, and sit on your high and mighty horse. You can't force faith onto the unwilling, and I wish people would stop trying. All you can do is offer what you believe to those who ask. If they don't, just leave them alone and try not to judge them. That's God's job.
Islam and Christianity isn't that much different, if only people would stop doing things like that and stop being so paranoid all the time. The world would be (dare I say it?) kinda boring, but better I guess.
(btw my drama teacher said that all of heath's parts in the batman movie was done...stupot's speculations may not be that far-fetched)
Good thing is, some of the family (referring to the f'd up church now) have forsaken the insanity and left. They're basically completely disowned, I don't think they're even allowed in the home or acknowledged in any way. But the whole thing stems from their father or whatever he is, who is just one of the most unsavory freakin' people you could ever hope not to meet. If you're a man in touch with his feelings, you're a sissy f**king queer (oh yeah, that's what he'd call you, I'm not exaggerating at all - very christian of him).
Seriously, people get in horrible car accidents everyday on their way to picket funerals, but it's always the wrong car.
The granddad is rumored to be gay himself, which wouldn't be a surprise. One fun occurance was the near-member of the family who actually started out as a documentarian doing a piece on the church, but apparently saw the light or something and actually joined the church and is now one of the most active members :D.
Quote from: ildu on Thu 24/01/2008 21:00:36
The granddad is rumored to be gay himself, which wouldn't be a surprise. One fun occurance was the near-member of the family who actually started out as a documentarian doing a piece on the church, but apparently saw the light or something and actually joined the church and is now one of the most active members :D.
You mean the documentary with the guy who was extremely skeptical throughout the entire process, basically showing the world how screwed up they were? THAT guy? Don't tell me he joined the church, because there must be some mistake...
Quote from: vertigoaddict on Thu 24/01/2008 19:25:46
(btw my drama teacher said that all of heath's parts in the batman movie was done...stupot's speculations may not be that far-fetched)
AFAIK his scenes were all finished, so it does seem like the movie's coming out as is. And I fucking well hope so! It would be a shame for this movie, Heath's last performance, to somehow not be released - or be released without him in it, the scenes with the Joker reshot. Why? Because at least this way his fans (amongst which I count myself) have one last thing to look forward to from him.
But I find it very, VERY preposterous that anyone would lump death of a movie actor together with publicity stunts. Sure, a divorce might be held off until it's financially interesting (i.e. shortly before a product is released) or going insane, hitting the news before your new single, but MURDER?
I really do think Stupot's speculations are far-fetched and the film's release as-is won't change anything to change that.
(http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/3412/heathledgememorialdw5.jpg)
Apparently from a Best Buy.
Obviously not a corporate move, probably just some local manger who typed it up.
If only Darth were a betting man...
If only Tiki was a thread reading man...
oh'snap
Quote from: Andail on Thu 24/01/2008 16:04:17
That baptist church thingie seems pretty fake to me. Not that it doesn't nail the typical bible-belt hillbilly mentality quite well, but still...
I live in the bible belt not too far south (in American terms) from where they are. They once wanted to picket a funeral of a dead soldier who lived in one of the small towns near where I grew up. (See: http://www.godhatesamerica.com )
Men bearing rifles and hundreds of death threats from locals made the highway patrol decide to intervene and not allow the church members anywhere near the funeral.
They are very much real, and too crazy for mainstream bible-belters.
Part of me wish they'd just kill/injure to the point of vegetation the picketers.
Violence is kinda harsh, but there is some justification for banishment from the US due to traitorship (picketing returning soldiers). Since civil rights are a thing of the past in the US these terror days, they could just throw 'em out and no one would care :D.
I'll defend free speech to my death, I think they should have been allowed to picket the funeral. They might have even won a Darwin award.
Hang 'em for being a traitor? I'm game.
Oh, my mistake. I actually didn't think it could be that bad.
Then after some research into the subject, I soon learned that I am to expect little mercy:
http://www.godhatessweden.com/index.html
I want one of the Phelps/a member of Westbro to die so I can picket their funeral.
I also need to register godhatesthephelps.com... :=
Good thing that only about 10% of swedes believe in God these days.
I wanna see how they picket the funeral when it's going to be held in PERTH, WESTERN AUSTRALIA! :o Not exactly a place the Westboro dickheads can get to without a plane ticket to Australia. I should know, I am Australian... and proud of it! Plus I've got more respect for the dead then that lot do apparantly.
Don't be so sure. They spend about 100,000 dollars a year to travel to these picket opportunities. I'm sure a handful will pay up to go, they are insane you know.
Quote from: LGM on Fri 25/01/2008 18:54:42
Don't be so sure. They spend about 100,000 dollars a year to travel to these picket opportunities. I'm sure a handful will pay up to go, they are insane you know.
Hmm, a bunch of insane holy rollers flying to picket a funeral.
Please let there be gremlins riding the wings...
Please let Australia take a fucking inititative and ban them from the country.
I've been reading a few things in the links in this thread and GOD! (haha, god)
Apparently God hates the world.
Isn't it funny how they use the word fag? It's so unprofessional.
Fag doesn't mean homosexual at all, it's like saying bitch (actual meaning female dog; info for people who don't know)
Faggot (definition, according to the dictionary, is a string or thread which got tangled often during sewing [in other words, opposite of 'straight'])
Fag is also slang for a cigarette
I don't remember what it was called, but it was an old movie that started it all (the use of the words fag, homo, poof, sissy, etc to define a homosexual) If I ever come accross a link to that information ever again, I'll post it here.
Trying to sound more professional by making up words like 'faggotry' or 'fag-enablers' (what is this? Grandma suzy's embroidery sew-off?). Who made it up in the first place? If anyone has any info on that, please show me.