How do you see the world around you?Are you a believer?what do you expect from your future?Do you see a reason and do you find sense in the things you do?
Or rather,how does the universe affect you and how do you affect it?
Its a rather wide area of discussion,but i was just wondering how people see their life
in a modern world.
42. ;D
42.
I have no idea what the hell the world even is since I'm both lacking information and have no way to check the nature sensory input I'm receiving, same for "being a believer" and "seeing a reason", there's virtually no way to predict my future because there are too many variables involved that are way beyond my ability to influence them, and I have less of an effect on the universe as a whole than a gnat's hair on a hurricane. That said, I think life is pretty awesome and I'm looking forward to what surprises my future holds for me.
Also, 42.
To sum it all up: The universe's a bugger. A pretty large on.
And yes, 42 indeed.
I see my existence as completely pointless and without meaning [universally speaking] ... so I just try to have fun and enjoy my limited time of existence.
If you think of it in the perspective of the sheer vastness of space and time; one tiny, little, meaningless speck of life [me] on a back-water planet in the far reaches of an arm of a non-descript spiral galaxy out in the middle of nowhere has absolutely no meaning what-so-ever (sure you matter to those around you but that's not the point). Universally speaking you are totally and in all ways insignificant.
However! If my theory of me saving the planet by stubbing my toe is true then I suppose I do have some meaning...
How I see my life:
I humbly provide continuous amusement to higher forces and people around me by swallowing every bucket of crap life can throw at me. With an optimistic, masochistic smile I greet the tide turning things even worse than they were day before. I wake up every day, straighten my back and walk towards next obvious trap with pure intention of making me miserable.
Even if life doesn't have a trap for me for some day, it makes it up with me realizing that I suffer alone, I will never find a brave and caring soul to accompany me in this sick game, nor be really accepted among others like me. But that's okay, because -
- my ambition is to top this game by reaching point where things could not get any worse. I have a long way to go through, and the life has final ace still in it's sleeve - death. But it seems that the game is too good to end it so abruptly, which means that...
...the game is still on.
I suffer, therefore I have a reason to exist.
I believe it is all about your mind. I have come to discover that if I want something REALLY bad and I think about me getting it enough, things in the universe fall into place around me for me to reach that goal with ease. All my life, my luck has been uncanny and just downright hilarious, ALWAYS winning monopoly from dice rolls, scratchy tickets = 1/2 win for me, green lights 9/10 times when I drive. It is just a gift I was born with and I embrace it.
I discovered this weird thing in life when I was 15 and then my Mum told me to read "The Secret." I stopped about 1/4 of the way through the book because I was doing everything that the book said. If you are interested in the universe and all that I suggest reading The Secret. A great deal of it is very over the top but I suggest taking what you want from it and leaving it at that.
Anyway I could write 20 pages of this but I do not wish to bore you ALL. Life is effin easy if you are doing what you really love and what you were born to do. Whether that is raising your children, building a business or creating awesome adventure games. Things seem to just click.
Love it!! ;D
What is the 42 thing?
Nacho, it's from a series of books called the Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy, if you haven't read it, I recommend you do!
Universally? I am irrelevant. So are you. There is no God, only us and animals and books and frogs and chopsticks and all of the other things. Nothing I do can affect the universe, nothing anyone does.
I prefer to enjoy life now, than think about what it might mean.
Thanks Zoot :)
I guess my me vs. world attitude can be summed up in some kind of "rules" I follow, that is mainly:
I am always aware how good life is and I realize every second that there are people with troubles I don't even think about, lying in hospitals everywhere awaiting their death and so. So I pretty much enjoy every single second of my life and take my problems as easily as I can.
I believe in a great deal of subjectivity, so I am aware that no one has right to judge what is good/bad and who is an idiot or a saint. Thus I take my own opinions (and also others' opinions) lightly.
I believe in some kind of higher force (call it God, Allah, whatever you want). Why? I don't know. I just do. Sometimes I simply cannot accept something as a coincidence or process that can be done without a "help" of higher force of some kind.
I don't care much what others think (to a healthy extent - see subjectivity above) and do what I believe is good, wear what I like to wear, listen to what I want to listen etc etc. I don't categorize myself into some kind of "style". And I won't alter my habits that I believe do no harm to me or others just because someone tells me that for example it's weird to have the top button on my shirt closed, when I don't feel comfortable like that. That doesn't mean I'm totally inadaptable and stubborn.
I am always trying to enjoy the present and live the life as enjoyably as I can, because the moment I am now living will not happen again, and, life is short. Often shorter than you think. So I try to fully enjoy what my life has to offer.
I guess that's it in short...
It's all bollocks. :P
I like it here.
It's a tough life sometimes, and yes I am completely irrelevent on a cosmic scale. But I'm here... and I'm here because of a string of beautiful coincidences stretching back to the beginning of time. I'm a miracle... you're a miracle. I don't feel one has to believe in God to believe in miracles. I mean, look around you. What do you see? Who cares?! The simple fact that you can see is just one of millions of amzing feats of evolution that have made you who you are
I think the fact that I'm alive is what makes life worth living.
I like it here.
Life = Fame + Fun / Random Events + BOOBS/2 - (fandom) (http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=vzpD6OogahQ&feature=related)
There is some sense in it all at least :)
I am currently enjoying co-incidence. I don't think it's future related necessarily, but there are definitely patterns.
Thank you for asking :=
In terms of God, the world is all a horrible joke and we're the punch line. This is because God in only thing that has the final word, if the word is horrifying.
However, the world, and the universe, can be manipulated. Ever heard of Group Theory (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Group_theory)? Ever heard of the Hundredth Monkey Effect (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hundredth_Monkey_Effect)?
It's not too difficult, but it's not a cakewalk either. Such manipulation and ulterior motivation is source of corruption, not that many will believe it's even possible, or plausible. They don't have to.
I also believe that some people are destined to do things, and others aren't necessarily constrained to a particular destiny and have a little more freedom. It's a bit complicated. What I believe is ... think of life as a canyon you have to cross, you can see the other side and the only way to cross is by crawling along your large tree branch. Now, you can go down the main tree branch and gurantably reach the other side. Or, you can go down one of the many branches that divert off your main branch, but with the risk of not reaching the other side of the canyon and falling off. The further you go, the thinner your main (thickest) branch becomes and the less diverting branches are on it. In relation to point about manipulation, that is like (while sitting on top of it) grabbing your main branch and slowly heaving it to the left or right, altering where it ends up and changing whether or not the diverting branches reach the end or not.
I hope that all made sense.
There is absolutely no point in the idea of destiny.
What difference does it make if someone is following a predetermined path or not? Even if they are they don't know it, so what's the point in thinking about it.
Imagine if I honestly belived that I was destined to win gold in the olympics, but then I only won silver... I would have to say 'hmm, maybe I was only destined to win silver after all'... The only way you can truly know that something is going to happen is when it has already happened, in which case that's not destiny, that's history.
Personaly I am looking forward to 2012.
You know when the earth ends and we all get sucked off.......... into outer space!!
That's gonna be one hell of a party and one that, frankly, I look forward too.
I hope my digital camera has enough charge to take a few pics!!
Personally, I'm looking forward to January 2013. Maybe some esoteric nuts will finally come to their senses... and if not, at least I get to make fun of them (even more than usually).
I am waiting for February 14th, in the year 2016
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwe1L2mHhZY#t=1m21s
The first dude on the show was right, why can't she be right?!
I'm waiting for the next mass genocide, which I believe is probably just around the corner. Al Q'aeda or whoever will probably slip something dodgy into a water system sometime in the next five years, causing mass deaths and waking the world up into a new age.
Either that or the "we die in a black hole" or whatever comes true in 2012...lol...yes, fun.
Quote from: Dudeman Thingface on Mon 26/01/2009 22:06:33
In terms of God, the world is all a horrible joke and we're the punch line. This is because God in only thing that has the final word, if the word is horrifying.
However, the world, and the universe, can be manipulated. Ever heard of Group Theory (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Group_theory)? Ever heard of the Hundredth Monkey Effect (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hundredth_Monkey_Effect)?
[snip]
I hope that all made sense.
Well, not really. Group theory is a mathematical theory (useful for talking about how to solve a Rubik's cube, among other things, but nothing to do with manipulating the universe) and the hundredth monkey effect does not exist, according to the Wikipedia article. So I'm afraid I don't see how they are at all relevant to the point you were making.
Life is empty and meaningless - just ask an existentialist. But the good thing, as Darth Mandarb says, is that this means you can just go ahead and enjoy it.
Quote from: Akatosh on Tue 27/01/2009 07:54:25
Personally, I'm looking forward to January 2013. Maybe some esoteric nuts will finally come to their senses... and if not, at least I get to make fun of them (even more than usually).
They won't take any notice, unfortunately... these people don't experience cognitive dissonance (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_dissonance). When they're proved wrong, they'll just say, "Oh did we say 2012? We really meant to say 2102," or "We all held hands and prayed really hard and everything turned out OK, which just goes to show we're right."
Quote from: paolo on Tue 27/01/2009 18:37:21
Quote from: Dudeman Thingface on Mon 26/01/2009 22:06:33
However, the world, and the universe, can be manipulated. Ever heard of Group Theory (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Group_theory)? Ever heard of the Hundredth Monkey Effect (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hundredth_Monkey_Effect)?
[snip]
I hope that all made sense.
Well, not really. Group theory is a mathematical theory (useful for talking about how to solve a Rubik's cube, among other things, but nothing to do with manipulating the universe) and the hundredth monkey effect does not exist, according to the Wikipedia article. So I'm afraid I don't see how they are at all relevant to the point you were making.
But if you combine Group Theory with the Hundredth Monkey Effect, you get the Effective Hundredth Monkey Group, a terrorist organisation that will eventually blow up the world.
Quote from: paolo on Tue 27/01/2009 18:37:21
Well, not really. Group theory is a mathematical theory (useful for talking about how to solve a Rubik's cube, among other things, but nothing to do with manipulating the universe) and the hundredth monkey effect does not exist, according to the Wikipedia article. So I'm afraid I don't see how they are at all relevant to the point you were making.
I believe you yourself refuse to believe it because you are experiencing cognitive dissonance (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_dissonance). ;D
As you believe:
Quote from: paolo on Tue 27/01/2009 18:37:21
Life is empty and meaningless - just ask an existentialist. But the good thing, as Darth Mandarb says, is that this means you can just go ahead and enjoy it.
It has to do with:
Quote from: lipaoklipa on Mon 26/01/2009 16:06:03
How do you see the world around you?Are you a believer?what do you expect from your future?Do you see a reason and do you find sense in the things you do?
Or rather,how does the universe affect you and how do you affect it?
Its a rather wide area of discussion,but i was just wondering how people see their life
in a modern world.
My explanation of them:
Group theory is a set of mathematical functions and groups to define and solve equations. It's specifically to do with groups. What I meant by bringing it up is that unlike what Akatosh believed, there aren't too many variables to predict what a group of people will do. You can lessen the set of variables in human action by applying logic, such as the hundredth monkey effect. The hundredth monkey effect, on one side, states that a set number of similar beings, once performing an action, makes innate in all other similar beings. On the other side, it states that similar beings will imitate and learn from one another and slowly adapt similar traits and experiences as more experience that trait.
On either side, it states that by introducing one variable to a set of people, and due to human nature, a number of those set people, that they will adopt it in time. However, what it forgets to address is that, particularly in the human race, this variable must be something considered desirable. E.g. if you have ten people laughing in the middle of a public park, and a number of people walk through the park, you can calculate how many will start laughing for no definable reason other than those ten people were laughing. Hence the concept why laughter is contagious.
But, the question will arise "what has this got to do with this thread". Here:
Quote from: Dudeman Thingface on Mon 26/01/2009 22:06:33
the world, and the universe, can be manipulated.
I do not really care if the world ends for us in 2012, 2019 or 40,000.
I do not want the Earth to explode either.
I would like life to continue on this fantastic globe after we have been eradicated.
We have f****d it up enough. Give it time to heal from the s**t we have put it through and hopefully
a species will inherit a world that was once as beautiful as when we first appeared.
Also I hope it is populated by a species that disserve to be here.
I had a dream last night where I thought of a phrase that sums up my view of things, I guess: "Everything is made to love and be loved in return." I don't know if this applies to everything (how can a rock love, anyway?), but I think it applies to people.
http://www.google.gr/search?hl=el&q=answer+to+life+the+universe+and+everything&btnG=%CE%91%CE%BD%CE%B1%CE%B6%CE%AE%CF%84%CE%B7%CF%83%CE%B7+Google&meta=&aq=f&oq= (http://www.google.gr/search?hl=el&q=answer+to+life+the+universe+and+everything&btnG=%CE%91%CE%BD%CE%B1%CE%B6%CE%AE%CF%84%CE%B7%CF%83%CE%B7+Google&meta=&aq=f&oq=)
All we need is the question..
Quote from: Dudeman Thingface on Tue 27/01/2009 22:07:11
Quote from: paolo on Tue 27/01/2009 18:37:21
Well, not really. Group theory is a mathematical theory (useful for talking about how to solve a Rubik's cube, among other things, but nothing to do with manipulating the universe) [snip]
I believe you yourself refuse to believe it because you are experiencing cognitive dissonance (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_dissonance). ;D
Group theory is a set of mathematical functions and groups to define and solve equations. It's specifically to do with groups. What I meant by bringing it up is that unlike what Akatosh believed, there aren't too many variables to predict what a group of people will do. [snip]
Cognitive dissonance alert :) You and I seem to be talking about different types of group theory. Group theory in maths has nothing to do with how groups of people behave - that sounds more like behavioural science.
Quote from: paolo on Fri 30/01/2009 15:22:48
Group theory in maths has nothing to do with how groups of people behave - that sounds more like behavioural science.
No, not directly. But it can be used to, after applying variables to either people or their actions, mathematically correlate what will occur (by the group, that is) next.
Although I do agree that my personal application of it is more of a behavioural science thing.
I believe that the purpose of life is something that the individual must discover for themselves.
sometimes I am amazed to think that everyone on earth has their own perspective, that, like me, they are also experiencing the world first hand through their eyes, with their own minds ticking away. Geeze, it's just mind boggling.
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