how much more (the simpsons)?

Started by Nikolas, Fri 02/05/2008 10:42:25

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Nikolas

Season 19. It's SO boring, SO awful, this thread is such a deja vu experience, but still (where's fluke when you need him? ;D)

at some point it just feels like too much greed. 19 bloody seasons! Family guy is at 6th and it shows signs of tireness! Futurama stoped and I think it's best that it did!

All real actor series become crap the minute they start season 2, and especially the new ones (Lost, 24, Heroes) will be totally beeped next season, because they ALL have to remedy the writters strike (hihihihi! ;D)

For the record, this does connect to J.K Rowling greed thing. Although somewhat different, if she kept on producing books until the 20th book, I would have to vomit! :-\

Lionmonkey

I don't think, it's about greed or season number. IT's about what inspires author. If there's alot of funny stuffy, he/she sees around him/herself, the project maces a success. If there's none, or very little of it, then the author has to think about  something him/herself, turning it into a hard-working process, which gradually becomes frustrating and the author tries to finish it as fast as possible. Quality loses then.
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DoorKnobHandle

Simpsons stopped being funny around the 11th season... Futurama lost some quality with the 5th season (but it still didn't fall nearly as far as The Simpsons did)... Family Guy, yeah, can't quite pinpoint that, it never was THAT great, although the series has its moments, but it lost some quality in the two latest seasons as well... Southpark's new, 12th season isn't nearly as good as the rest either so far (with small exceptions) although all Southpark seasons have their ups and downs... That 70's Show's 8th season is unwatchable with the exception of the final episode, 7th season isn't very good either... Malcolm in the Middle slightly fell in the last three seasons with the final one being the worst by far...

That means the only shows I watch that didn't lose any quality in time are Rocko's Modern Life and Tom and Jerry.

Nacho

I didn' t like the Simpsons since, let' s say, season 7 or 8. Maybe since they focused on Homer... why? He makes so stupid things that it is obvious that he has some mental dissorder or something. Is it fun to laugh with that? It is like laughing of the animated gif of that retarded fat kid, the one resembling Andy Pen15... Pathetic. I liked Futurama a lot, maybe it had indeed a little loss of quality, but I would liked to see a "final".

I tried to see Family Guy. I swear. I gave it 5 or 6 opportunities, it had to be good if many people liked it and if it had so good critics...

I really hated it.

It not only didn' t succeded in making me LAUGH, but also failed on it's attempt to make me SMILE. A bad copy of a character that was not good (Homer). Total floor (opposit to "top"?) humour. I hope it' s cancelled soon.

24 never catched me.

Lost and Prison Break have to finish soon, because, since I could stand a couple more seasons of Lost, I think Prison Break needs a grand finale before turning (too) boring.

And I love Dexter, as my avatar shows, but I think they should do the third season and stop.

Somebody likes "How I met your mother"?
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Tuomas

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Quote from: Nacho on Fri 02/05/2008 13:16:30
I didn' t like the Simpsons since, let' s say, season 7 or 8. Maybe since they focused on Homer... why? He makes so stupid things that it is obvious that he has some mental dissorder or something. Is it fun to laugh with that? It is like laughing of the animated gif of that retarded fat kid, the one resembling Andy Pen15... Pathetic. I liked Futurama a lot, maybe it had indeed a little loss of quality, but I would liked to see a "final".

I completely agree, was about to post the same opinion too :) My favourite of Simpsons is still the 2nd *season*[EDIT]. And they show them on 3 channels here, weekly, some daily. Everyone has seen every episode at least twice, but i guess it never sieges to amuse the majority. I think in the past years the Simpsons humour has become repetative and obvious. Of course you often laugh and say, didn't see that coming, but when you think of it, it was really obvious. And yes, I can't stand Homer, though I guess it's fun and acceptable, to laugh at a fat retarded person.

I never enjoyed Family Guy either. I don't think it ever got very big in the Finnish television, just some random episodes at 11 in the morning or something.

Then the rest you pointed out Nacho, I can't stand any of those shows. I tried to watch Lost with my mate, we would gather all the flaws into a booklet but got bored after a few episodes, now it's gone 2 seasons and nothing has happened. Though people who watch it insist that that is the whole point of it, nothing makes sense and nothing happens. That's not something I'd wish to watch.

Anyway, with Simpsons, I think the movie said quite a lot of what they've got in store for us, used jokes and Homer. Perhaps it would have been a good place to end the series huh? Perhaps try something new for a while. I mean, Friends ended before they got all crap, there's a time and a place for everything, I've though for a while, that that time has passed for the Simspons.

InCreator

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Simpsons? not my thing. Watched it when I was younger, but now all this stupidity simply irritates me.

Family Guy? Actually, a season or two wouldn't be so bad. IF they could keep content fresh.

Heroes indeed died at the start of second season. I stopped watching and caring anymore.

South Park's high point was somewhere between 6th and 11th season. I don't like first 3 seasons at all, and 12th one is getting too boring too.

24 is a thing that could go on. Since every season is separate story, I always watch it like a long, good action movie. It takes usually 2-3 days for me to go through whole season, I don't like waiting a week to see only a hourly bit of it.

It's time for Lost to wrap things up. I think that ratings sink either at the end of this season or start of next one. It's getting so illogical, annoying... with all the agendas and questions, no character really cares anymore. Each one knows something and they never share knowledge... which is awfully stupid and unbelievable. Everybody's lost track for all the mysteries already...
A Jack Bauer on the island is what this show really needs, beating all the answers out from everyone until puzzle is complete and there's no confusion anymore.

Nacho

Which is the second episode  from the Simpsons, Toumas? Bart, the General?
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Oliwerko

I like to watch Simpsons from time to time, because it is funny, but that's all. It isn't the best series, but I kind of like seasons 2 to 10. Pretty funny stuff.

MASH is my favourite and I keep it watching over and over. Some episodes are a bit hard to watch, but I feel relaxed when I watch it.

And Law and Order is my favourite. No, not the new ones (criminal intent), but the good ol' 80s-90s when you could see the whole process from the beginning 'till the end of case and featuring that sarcastic humour and well-chosen actors.

Tuomas

Quote from: Nacho on Fri 02/05/2008 13:32:46
Which is the second episode  from the Simpsons, Toumas? Bart, the General?

season, not episode, sorry. :P

Nacho

No probs, I didn' t know you goofed, I was not trying to be a smart ass...
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Quintaros

The Simpsons is no longer sublime but it's still enjoyable.  I don't go out of my way to watch it but if I happen to catch an episode it's fairly reliable at inducing a few laughs.  

All time favourite episode (I don't know the titles):  Lisa's new classmate becomes a rival for academic praise, culminating in Lisa sabotaging her entry to the Diorama-Rama.  Meanwhile Homer has found an overturned sugar tanker and is trying to corner the market in a bizarre Scarface parody.

Stupot

I still love the Simpsons, but it is an entirely different show than it used to be... once upon a time it was a charming commentary on the minutiae of family life... As it's gone on it has got more pointless but it as always remained funny.  I love it.

In a way I think greed is a factor.
Fox are especially guilty of this... look what happened to The X-Files...  They should have ended it after season 5, which is what Chris Carter wanted, but Fox said 'no, we want to milk this show for as long as possible , keep going'... so by that point it was never going to be how Carter had envisioned and they churned out some pretty poor episodes thereafter.

The same thing won't happen with LOST.  ABC have given the writers an exact cut-off point so they can now go away and use the time they have to structure the story in such a way that will have a definite and solid climax, instead of having to tiptoe around it, leaving all kinds of cliff-hangers and questions open incase ABC turn around and tell them to make 4 more series.. which, thankfully, they won't.

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Timosity

Don't mind the Simpsons, It's interesting, They have stopped running the Simpsons every night on free to air TV since the start of this year (in Australia), which is good, as it has been on every night for who knows how long, at least 12-13 years (since they had enough series to run it every night) I think they are even playing the new episodes on pay TV so not everyone gets to see them.

So it's really the first time it has not been thrown in your face and if you are a fan you can still see it if you have pay tv, though they have replaced the simpsons with reruns of Friends, which is I guess better than running that Raymond show.

Nostradamus

I don't agree and I hate all that internet wave of nonsense that says "Simpsons have stopped being funny after the Xth season". Internet people, you guys are bitching way too much. Nowadays it seems people on the internet aren't satisfied by anything and rant about everything. IMO the 18th season is one of the best if not the best Simpsons season ever, and I watched the WHOLE series TWICE. In the 18th season almost every episode was hillarious and amazing in its concept. The 19th season so far isn't as good as the 18th but it's still good and has generated some great episodes, for example the one where Homer lost his memory. The concept and the way it was built was brilliant.
Why would you like a season you like so much to end???  Why the hell do people call for series they love to end???   It's better to have some average episodes and some great episodes in a season than not have it at all. You gotta realize in two decades, times change, humor changes, writers change, a series can't stay the same for 20 years. The Simpsons has survived so greatly for 19 seasons because it adapts to the times, because they refresh their writers so it won't get stale.
I say they've been here for 19 seasons and I'd like them to ahve 19 more, if you don't like it now just stop watching, but why ruin it for everybody else?



Nikolas

Oh Sorry nostradamus for having an opinion. I'm sorry I ruined your day! :p

No really, as you noticed my point is on how long a series can go on, and I do bring the simpsons as an example, but also have many other series in my post.

Relax!

Dualnames

It's about that we want more... so they keep bringing more. Ask Red Dwarf fans if they got enough..
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Nostradamus

Nikolas, a series can go as long as it remains good and it has a demand. And The Simpsons is still very highly watched and it's still been kept fresh and relevant.

You can't compare animated series to regular series like Friends, X-Files or whatever. In regular series actors get older and settings gets old. There's only so much time people from That 70's Show can play teenagers, there's only so much time those 6 friends can live in the same place, without children, and there's only so much relationships they can do between them (and they really did have almost all possible relationships between them, well except with Phoebe), There's only so much plots a Sci-Fi series can have before either it gets too complicated or every major plot gets resolved, and etc.
But with animated series like Simpsons, South Park etc, people don't get older and settings can change according to the changes of society and technology, an animated series can innovate and re-invent itself all the time and still be relevant. That's why Simpsons can go for 19 years and many more.



Stupot

Quote from: Dualnames on Sat 03/05/2008 15:53:02
It's about that we want more... so they keep bringing more. Ask Red Dwarf fans if they got enough..

We're still waiting for the film...
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