Adventure Game Studio

Community => General Discussion => Topic started by: Gemmalah on Tue 16/12/2003 10:36:34

Title: Is it just me or do most teachers not understand adventure games...
Post by: Gemmalah on Tue 16/12/2003 10:36:34
OK apart from the adults who play games all the time most don't have a clue.

For example i brought my game to school on a CD (finally) and my teachers were really impressed when the charactors could walk and talk, let alone all the other, nifty things i put in, like animations and a secret room!

I recon If i made a one room game where the charactor walks on the sky they would still be impressed.   :P
By the way saving another post do you think that if i say
"sorry as this is only a demo you cannot save"
Like in flight of the amason queen demo, it would be acceptable as my gui just isn't working and there isn't much to the gameplay yet.

and how do I get people to review my game! I need them to do it to finish my project for school! I would be very grateful and would review some back over christmas if mum allows.
Title: Re:Is it just me or do most teachers not understand adventure games...
Post by: Nacho on Tue 16/12/2003 12:08:02
I don´t really see your point... your teachers are amazed by... nothing really impressive? Well, here we are to help you with good criticism! :) But the teacher´s way of behave seems quite polite, I wouldn´t really be annoyed by that... ???
Title: Re:Is it just me or do most teachers not understand adventure games...
Post by: Femme Stab Mode >:D on Tue 16/12/2003 12:26:35
I gave my friend a game I made, Slime. He couldn't work out a way to move the character.
Title: Re:Is it just me or do most teachers not understand adventure games...
Post by: Gemmalah on Tue 16/12/2003 12:58:37
WEll i'm not annoyed at the reaction but i did get a little annoyed when they were so enthralled by talking to people and walking about that i couldn't show them the REAL good stuff that took the longest. I really wanted to show that stuff off. And ok i'll leave it to the forum to give big crits yay.

dragon slayers on a forum near you soon. (just when I get that bug fixed!)
Title: Re:Is it just me or do most teachers not understand adventure games...
Post by: Interference on Tue 16/12/2003 13:39:12
I think your teachers were impressed with the fact you made the game, not the game alone. People just don't realise you don't need to be Eidos to release a game these days, believing games creation is shrouded in some dark veil of complex programming and fiddly artwork.
Title: Re:Is it just me or do most teachers not understand adventure games...
Post by: SSH on Tue 16/12/2003 13:43:17
Speaking as someone whose game will have fiddly artwork and complex programming, I demand you take that back!  ;)
Title: Re:Is it just me or do most teachers not understand adventure games...
Post by: on Tue 16/12/2003 14:22:06
I remember me and my friend made an interactive Church thing on QBasic for Religious Studies once, basically it drew a few lines and said "Alter" and then "Organ" and the teacher was like OMFG!!!11 A+ !11

So yes, it seems that teachers can be easily impressed.

Then I made a Martin Luther King thing in Delphi and got another A+.

God bless the ability to program crap!
Title: Re:Is it just me or do most teachers not understand adventure games...
Post by: SSH on Tue 16/12/2003 14:36:42
Quote from: m0ds on Tue 16/12/2003 14:22:06
and the teacher was like OMFG!

your Religious Studies teacher swore and blasphemed in the same expression?!!?!  I'll just email HM Inspector of Schools...
Title: Re:Is it just me or do most teachers not understand adventure games...
Post by: Interference on Tue 16/12/2003 14:42:37
You made an electric Martin Luther King? Genius! Think of the possibilities: your very own cyber-Ghandi, scouring your e-mails for spam! Replacing that bloody MS Paperclip with Mother Teresa. We could even bring back Elvis as a password memoriser!

An electric Martin Luther, on the other hand, would be crap. You'd never get a PC to cut down Christmas trees.
Title: Re:Is it just me or do most teachers not understand adventure games...
Post by: SSH on Tue 16/12/2003 14:55:25
I googled to find out if anyone had already done these, and I came across this. I really can't work out if this is a joke or not. I CAN'T believe this is for real!

http://www.cstones.com/html/luther__the_reformation.html

However, you could get Luther-themed Post-It notes?
Title: Re:Is it just me or do most teachers not understand adventure games...
Post by: Meowster on Tue 16/12/2003 19:19:58
Yes, that is PRECISELY why I sold BR for my mini company project. Even though all the people who bought it couldn't even move the character or pick things up. It was awesome.
Title: Re:Is it just me or do most teachers not understand adventure games...
Post by: on Tue 16/12/2003 19:41:40
All teachers just don't get adventure games(well neither does my mother)
Title: Re:Is it just me or do most teachers not understand adventure games...
Post by: Eggie on Tue 16/12/2003 20:05:03
I recently discovered that my IT teacher was an Animé fan...You wouldn't expect it.

So, I'm just going to assume that a fair amount of teachers 'get' adventure games and I'm also going to assume that a fair amount of techers have a gherkin fetish because there are lots of teachers and lots of different people who happen to be teachers.
Title: Re:Is it just me or do most teachers not understand adventure games...
Post by: MrColossal on Tue 16/12/2003 21:20:37
I thought it was quite cute when I found out one of my teachers played Metal Gear Solid on the playstation. He even asked my friend and I for help [beating Psycho Mantis that is].

My parents played adventure games and I'm sure tons of teachers played them too. You just have to remind them that at one point in their life they held the Wishbringer stone and wished for a hint on how to get past that damned poodle.

eric
Title: Re:Is it just me or do most teachers not understand adventure games...
Post by: AGA on Wed 17/12/2003 08:31:34
It was my mother who introduced me to adventure games originally, so she definitely knows how they work... :P
Title: Re:Is it just me or do most teachers not understand adventure games...
Post by: Domino on Wed 17/12/2003 08:37:56
my father is a retired teacher and introduced me to the wonderful world of adventure games. He bought Kings Quest 1 many years ago, and showed me it when i was a kid.

But my father never really cared about adventure games then, or even now. So i guess (in my case) that most teachers don't understand adventure games.

Even when i used to program adventure games in BASIC many years ago on my old Tandy computer, he never really cared for them (games i made) and would criticize them to the point that i just wanted to give up. oh well.

Shawn  :)
Title: Re:Is it just me or do most teachers not understand adventure games...
Post by: FruitTree on Wed 17/12/2003 11:02:32
my choirmaster is a mad adventure game fan,
as a matter of fact me and him are probably going to make a game someday  ;D
Title: Re:Is it just me or do most teachers not understand adventure games...
Post by: remixor on Wed 17/12/2003 12:52:08
My secret to success in high school?  PowerPoint.
Title: Re:Is it just me or do most teachers not understand adventure games...
Post by: Trapezoid on Wed 17/12/2003 14:53:26
AGA's mother introduced me to all sorts of adventures, and games.
Title: Re:Is it just me or do most teachers not understand adventure games...
Post by: shbaz on Wed 17/12/2003 15:41:48
Powerpoint is the secret to success in college presentations too, if you can use it well.  In my engineering class we were told to bring transparencies in to detail our missile designs and explain them to the class.  The lecture hall had two projectors and screens so I used them both and made models on blender, the other guys drew on the transparencies with markers!
Title: Re:Is it just me or do most teachers not understand adventure games...
Post by: on Wed 17/12/2003 22:00:01
Quote from: shbazjinkens on Wed 17/12/2003 15:41:48
Powerpoint is the secret to success in college presentations too, if you can use it well.  In my engineering class we were told to bring transparencies in to detail our missile designs and explain them to the class.  The lecture hall had two projectors and screens so I used them both and made models on blender, the other guys drew on the transparencies with markers!

Funny, I've been in classes where you can be heavily penalized for using Power-Point.  Power-Point is a good way to say nothing with a big projection screen and animated bullets.

Though of course, your presentation sounds better than that.
Title: Re:Is it just me or do most teachers not understand adventure games...
Post by: remixor on Thu 18/12/2003 04:26:47
When I was in high school, my friend and I made the most exploitative and ludicrous PowerPoint presentation ever.  It had the Jurassic Park soundtrack in the background, there was stuff exploding and flying around everywhere, there were crazy sound effects all over the place, it was absolutely nuts.  I don't even remember what it was about, but it was for a biology class.  It was probably a presentation on DNA or something.  Completely absurd.
Title: Re:Is it just me or do most teachers not understand adventure games...
Post by: Gemmalah on Thu 18/12/2003 12:56:50
man, you don't need to be a genious to use powerpoint, oh and i like the point that they liked the fact I made the game, probably true.
cos i'm not some glasses wearing braces wrearing nerd who has no tan and bad breath (most likely male but none can tell) who cannot like without a computer they think i probably can't programme, that is so wrong isn't it guys?  ???I don't have bad breath or braces.  ;D
Title: Re:Is it just me or do most teachers not understand adventure games...
Post by: SSH on Thu 18/12/2003 13:15:23
To quote Scott Adams, creator of Dilbert:

Your co-workers (or cow-orkers) are very similar to cows. Here's an example:

1. Cows eat grass and produce manure
2. Your co-workers eat donuts and produce Powerpoint slides

Of course, it isn't the perfect analogy because donuts have sugar and fat added to the flour (that comes from grass), but it will do...
Title: Re:Is it just me or do most teachers not understand adventure games...
Post by: Meowster on Thu 18/12/2003 18:18:13
That's where Info Cow got his name! Goddamn!!!
Title: Re:Is it just me or do most teachers not understand adventure games...
Post by: TerranRich on Thu 18/12/2003 18:54:55
Maybe a tad bit off-topic, but I remember my dad introducing us to adventure games with SQ4 and KQ5 when they first came out. Then when I told him about AGS and how I could make my own games in that style like a year ago, he said "Space Quest 4? Rick, that's old, nobody plays those anymore!"

I should've said, "Dad! You listen to crap 70's rock! You're old! Nobody listens to you anymore!"

:P
Title: Re:Is it just me or do most teachers not understand adventure games...
Post by: LordHart on Thu 18/12/2003 19:20:28
I listen to 70's rock... :'(
Title: Re:Is it just me or do most teachers not understand adventure games...
Post by: remixor on Thu 18/12/2003 19:44:42
Quote from: terranRICH on Thu 18/12/2003 18:54:55crap 70's rock

For some reason, my brain is having trouble processing this arrangement of words  ???
Title: Re:Is it just me or do most teachers not understand adventure games...
Post by: MillsJROSS on Thu 18/12/2003 19:47:45
PowerPoint can be usefull for organizing a speech, if used correctly. I see two misuses of it by my professors, often times, though.

They sometimes get sooo discriptive on them, that they might as well just use Word and scroll down. They lose the concept of what powerpoint is for. The don't organize it well enough so the student can see the main idea and than the elaboration of that idea without having to look for it for a while.

The other mistake, is they underuse the powerpoint. They simply put up a topic and DON'T elaborate enough. So that the Powerpoint is rendered useless. The points don't bear any meaning what-so-ever, as they have so many possibilities as to what the point might mean.

The last problem of a Powerpoint is that some people use it to substitute note taking. This is actually the opposite of what powerpoint is for.

I don't think PowerPoint is crap. I think it's a powerful utility, that most people don't know how to use effictively. A powerpoint should give you your main points and then eleborate enough on where you should spend your time studying within those main points, but not eleborate too much. A powerpoint presentation should mix audatory and visual learning combined.

-MillsJROSS