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Title: Is this something that should upset you...?
Post by: Dualnames on Thu 10/04/2008 08:51:11
Ok read my ol favorite about the olympic games..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Titor

If you get to search google more you'll find a number of events he said that will happen one of them is that the last olympic games are those of Athens. What if those Olympic games don;t happen..what will you say..?


(This is a very stupid post mind you.)
Title: Re: Is this something that should upset you...?
Post by: Andail on Thu 10/04/2008 09:35:31
I'm so majorly unimpressed by "future-tellers" like this one.

He and his followers claim that if events don't turn out like his predictions, it's because we're in a new, parallel timeline and the events he spoke about instead will take place in another time-line (just to make sure he can't be proven wrong).
So if events that fail to take place cannot prove that he's wrong, why is it interesting to talk about the events that actually take place?
Not that they actually do take place, but still.
Title: Re: Is this something that should upset you...?
Post by: Stupot on Thu 10/04/2008 12:30:45
Sounds like an interesting guy... He's probably hoping that some of this stuff will come true on the off chance.

If The Beijing games don't happen (and I can see no reason yet why they won't), then that still won't make Athens the last... Britain will be hosting the games in 2012 2013 2015... whenever they sort the fucking public transport out and actually start building London to look like the pretty pictures they drew ages ago.

If Heathrow Terminal 5 and Wembley are anything to go by, we probably won't be holding the Olympics... but still... I'm sure Athens won't be the last... that's a really bold statement.
Title: Re: Is this something that should upset you...?
Post by: SSH on Thu 10/04/2008 13:02:05
Didn't they have a winter olympics in 2006?
Title: Re: Is this something that should upset you...?
Post by: Radiant on Thu 10/04/2008 13:20:34
Quote from: SSH on Thu 10/04/2008 13:02:05
Didn't they have a winter olympics in 2006?

Yes. Turin, Italy.
Title: Re: Is this something that should upset you...?
Post by: Lionmonkey on Thu 10/04/2008 13:50:09
I've noticed one rule of the Universe, which I often exploit nowadays:

"If something is predicted, then after a month, after a year, maybe after a century, it's going to happen"
Title: Re: Is this something that should upset you...?
Post by: Akatosh on Thu 10/04/2008 14:11:04
Really?

Well then, I think I'm going to be a god, then.  ;)
Title: Re: Is this something that should upset you...?
Post by: Stupot on Thu 10/04/2008 14:16:42
Quote from: Lionmonkey on Thu 10/04/2008 13:50:09
I've noticed one rule of the Universe, which I often exploit nowadays:

"If something is predicted, then after a month, after a year, maybe after a century, it's going to happen"

What about those who predicted the world would end in the year 2000... they were wrong... and we'll never have a year 2000 again.

My old form tutor predicted that I would wind up being a lawyer... he was wrong aswell.
Title: Re: Is this something that should upset you...?
Post by: SSH on Thu 10/04/2008 14:48:38
I predict that a forum member will be eaten by a giant kitten
Title: Re: Is this something that should upset you...?
Post by: MrColossal on Thu 10/04/2008 15:07:39
Stupot, the number 2000 is just an arbitrary thing humans decided on. We could at some point decide to start counting over again when we get to like the 10,000's. Then there will be another year 2000. Or another religion will pop up that says that god counts years every 1000 years so in the year 2,000,000 is when the world will REALLY end.

dun dun DUUUUN!
Title: Re: Is this something that should upset you...?
Post by: Buckethead on Thu 10/04/2008 15:10:23
OR... the world has already ended and we are just living in the aftermath.
Title: Re: Is this something that should upset you...?
Post by: MrColossal on Thu 10/04/2008 15:13:17
OR the world hasn't even started yet and we're still setting up the stage for the real players...

Ia ia Cthulhu fhtagn!
Title: Re: Is this something that should upset you...?
Post by: SSH on Thu 10/04/2008 17:28:26
Quote from: MrColossal on Thu 10/04/2008 15:13:17
Ia ia Cthulhu fhtagn!

That was the sound of MrC being eaten by said kitten
Title: Re: Is this something that should upset you...?
Post by: Akatosh on Sat 12/04/2008 15:08:50
Gadzooks, it's all true!  :o
Title: Re: Is this something that should upset you...?
Post by: Stupot on Sat 12/04/2008 15:13:18
Quote from: MrColossal on Thu 10/04/2008 15:07:39dun dun DUUUUN!

Yeh but the chances that the world ending on a year 2000 on any given calendar are still pretty slim.
Title: Re: Is this something that should upset you...?
Post by: Gord10 on Sat 12/04/2008 15:34:05
Or another theory:
Whatever happens, it was already predicted by someone.

Let's say that the world will end on 2016. Someone must have already predicted this; while others were predecting it to be earlier than 2016 or later than 2016. And when the world ends in 2016, he can say "Look! I had predicted this, I was right. LOL!".

This applies for the whole predictions; an event happens and someone will say he knew this.

dun dun DUNNN!
Title: Re: Is this something that should upset you...?
Post by: space boy on Sat 12/04/2008 15:56:39
I knew you'd say this Gord10.
Title: Re: Is this something that should upset you...?
Post by: Klyptomaniac on Tue 15/04/2008 01:57:18
Wow, that's epic. That could've led to an alternate reality game, but I don't think they were around then.
Title: Re: Is this something that should upset you...?
Post by: MrColossal on Tue 15/04/2008 04:29:52
Jon Titor kind of was an alternate reality game thing kind of...

Dude posted on a forum "I am a time traveler, ask me questions" so people did and he made up a bunch of stuff and photoshopped some pictures and people fed him questions and theories and he fed the people supposed answers to the future and such.

As was stated he always had an "out" that we could avoid everything he predicted because of *reasons reasons* but it was quite sensational in certain internet circles when it was going on. The same amount of discussion about that happened with other early alternate reality games before people got savvy to them as marketing, I would guess. Jon Titor just wasn't selling anything, just doing it for fun.
Title: Re: Is this something that should upset you...?
Post by: Gilbert on Tue 15/04/2008 04:39:05
No need to speak for yourself, eric!
Title: Re: Is this something that should upset you...?
Post by: Ishmael on Tue 15/04/2008 14:28:06
I think it is possible to predict the future. The catch is, things have to be the same way as they are at the moment of the prediction at the moment of the whatever is going to happen. If something changes, the future changes. It's occasionally wery subconcious too: we're thinking "Oh no this is going to suck for sure" and just wait for it to happen, and what do you know, it does suck. But if you realise you can do something to make it not suck, it most likely won't if you really are doing something and not just thinking you are yet still believing it will.

This works two ways: if someone predicts something people start looking forward to it, which keeps things the same as people want to see it happen and don't want to stray away from it, or people want to avoid it and do things that lead everything on a different course of events.

Almost the same as the alternative timeline explanation, with the little difference that in this case we haven't actually strayed anywhere, but instead made a difference.

There's on prediction that'll stand, though. There will always be a fool to take the place of one stepping down. :=
Title: Re: Is this something that should upset you...?
Post by: Stupot on Tue 15/04/2008 14:41:43
I'm a bit boring when it comes to this kind of discussion... I believe that anything that hasn't happened yet simply hasn't happened yet, and the future will only be decided when the time comes... by which time it won't be future anymore, it'll be present.

Sure we can affect the future... and it's of course possible to make a good educated guess at certain future events (such as weather forecasting and the like... If I buy a loaf of bread in the morning, I can predict that I'm more likely to have toast in the afternoon.  If I chop my balls of on the Thursday I can make a good guess that I won't be able to make babies on the Friday.  But as far as fate and fortune-telling go, I don't believe it's possible, because they kind of suggest that the future has already been played out and, we are just going along for the ride.

I guess I like to think I have more control over my free-will than John Titor would have me believe.
Title: Re: Is this something that should upset you...?
Post by: passer-by on Tue 15/04/2008 15:51:12
Quote from: Stupot on Sat 12/04/2008 15:13:18
Yeh but the chances that the world ending on a year 2000 on any given calendar are still pretty slim.

Tell me when the worlds ends and I'll fix the calendar  :P
Title: Re: Is this something that should upset you...?
Post by: Klyptomaniac on Tue 15/04/2008 17:35:12
Have any of you ever heard of the 2012 conspiracy, that the world will end in 2012?

Quote from: MrColossal on Tue 15/04/2008 04:29:52
The same amount of discussion about that happened with other early alternate reality games before people got savvy to them as marketing, I would guess. Jon Titor just wasn't selling anything, just doing it for fun.

I think the first one that gained a lot of attention was The Beast, but I don't know what year that was. I think it was for the AI movie.
Title: Re: Is this something that should upset you...?
Post by: Emerald on Tue 15/04/2008 19:20:05
I agree that future predictions often arise from your subconscious. Only about 10% of the things we perceive are consciously processed by our brains - the rest is stored in the subconscious for a little while, until it eventually gets wiped out.

I think the so-called 'psychics' are simply people who are able to access parts of their subconscious (i.e. observations which you've made without consciously realising).

To take Stupot's example - you might see a new loaf of bread sitting on your friend's counter, but barely notice. Then, later on at lunchtime, you inexplicably get a feeling that your friend is eating toast. And, sure enough, he is. One might say it's a psychic premonition, but really it's just a subconscious observation rising to the surface...
Title: Re: Is this something that should upset you...?
Post by: miguel on Wed 16/04/2008 10:33:28
Hello to all,

There is a conception of 'time' that we have learned to believe. That 'time' is like a river that constantly runs its direction and we live our lives along with that river. Actually there is no river, we mark past events and therefore believe 'time' is passing.
'Time' is a collective thought, a human collective thought. On a microscopic level, the notion of 'time' would be impossible to assimilate by us, such are the random events that occur.  On a gigantic level, the notion of 'time' would crumble into bits at the same time we would inhale huge amounts of oxigen, walk large distances in seconds, eat amazing amounts of food, etc...
'Time' as we know it, is just a developing stage of our brains, if our brains are still developing. Studies indicate that large growing civilizations tend to lose their culture and inteligence levels as they absorb other cultures and at the same time corrupt their own.