Jack Thompson: a bit confused

Started by Vince Twelve, Thu 13/10/2005 04:47:02

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Nikolas

Well, back to the topic, which from now on is, who wants to make a game and is willing to help making it:

I'm in!

I can writte music, and throw ideas around the story/puzzles!

I can't script at all, though...

Maybe before we start messing around with these kind of things we should check with CJ? Just a thought...

Chicky

But isn't there a catch to all this? From what i understand if some fool does recreate something from the game created (ala Jackass)  then cant this thompson guy sue the hell out of the creator?

Nikolas


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modgeulator

If you write an outline for a game, say "please make this game," and then somebody does - can you really turn around and sue them for taking your idea? This is something that would need to be determined before the game can be made, I suppose.

One solution might be to give up on trying to make him fulfill his charity donation proposal by not actually selling the game. Just create it as a freeware, perhaps?

Vince Twelve

1) I would not worry about someone acting out the events from a point and click adventure.  And as modgeulator said, he can't sue us for making the game he told us to make.

2) As nik mentioned, $10,000 is not going to bankrupt the guy.  He probably won't even feel it.  BUT, it's a bruise to his very swollen ego.  The point is to point out his ignorance and idiocy.

3) When writing this game (and you know what, I volunteer to do it if no one else is into it) we have to make sure to keep it smart and clean.  You can't prove someone wrong just by insulting him, you CAN prove someone wrong by pointing out all the flaws in his argument.  But we don't need to result to mud-slinging and name calling.  Facts and parody, that's where it's at.

4) That ctrl-alt-del comic was hilarious.

modgeulator

Looks like somebody's already made the game!

http://www.technical-difficulties.com/osaki/


Still, I'd like to see something a bit better that this...

Quote from: Vince Twelve on Fri 14/10/2005 03:50:59
...he can't sue us for making the game he told us to make.

I didn't say that, I'm not sure if he could sue or not.

Vince Twelve

Errr... sorry I mis-commented on your comment.  I don't believe he could sucessfully sue, and I know he can't sue without looking like a complete tool.

And I knew some other people would certainly have the idea to make this game.  But Jack, being the lawyer that he is, could easily weasel his way around that one by quoting his proposal:

Quote...if any video game company will create, manufacture, distribute, and sell a video game in 2006 like the following...

the game may have to be made, manufactured, distributed, and sold in 2006.  Also, this game wasn't really manufactured, which is why I propose using cafePress.

Finally, these guys did a great rush job here, and the game is probably very funny, but I doubt that they get across the point that they should be expressing here.

Heh.  It's still pretty funny that a game has already been made.  I wonder what Jack was smoking when he wrote and mailed that proposal... what a nutter.

esper

Well, that's unfortunate. Ah, I guess I have nothing to be zealous about now... ::sigh::

Still, the virtual destruction of ol' Jack is tremendous. I think the point he completely fails to see is that violent video games do not make violent players, but rather quite the opposite: violent players make violent games. I bet the people that make games like Postal, Manhunt, and GTA are all pacifists. The only reason they make the games is because it makes them money.

Why is it that there is no 800 number you can call to complain about idiocy?

So, going back to the game. We could probably still make it, more to JT's specifications, and win the bet, as it seems that the people who made "Osaki" were only interested in it for a gag. A serious attempt at this game might horribly cripple Jack's ignorance. I still say we do it :P
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I can honestly say that I am thoroughly dissapointed with him.  I mean, aren't lawyers supposed to be charismatic, clever, and able to twist words like none other?  This moron's essentially saying, "Yea, about that... I was joking 'cause I don't want to pay the 10 grand."

Even though, of course, he's making a bigger ass of himself now that he said that.  To put it simply, all of the video gamers gave him a big FU, so he ran off like a coward.  We won.  Be happy.

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Quote from: King_Nipper on Tue 18/10/2005 02:17:35
I can honestly say that I am thoroughly dissapointed with him.Ã,  I mean, aren't lawyers supposed to be charismatic, clever, and able to twist words like none other?Ã, 

I would say that of all the classes lawyers are the worst class. Not in matters of attributes, but certainly I would never pick a class who is able to twist words like no one!

I think really that while in training and education, lawyers are taught to lie, and generally to be bitches and not to care about anything.

Ok. before I am misunderstood, take the word lawyers from above and replace it with the workd Jackass!
;D

PS. And certainly not clever!

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Awesome! Someone tell Yahtzee I love him, because I can't be bothered.

Nikolas


Ashen

Lately, I 've been thinking "I wish Yahtzee would stop with these half-arsed, not particularly clever or funny updates, and make a new Chris & Trilby comic." But that's neither here nor there.

Did anyone seriously expect Thompson to make good on his offer? OK, I admit I thought he'd weasel out of it by claiming none of the games that got made met his critera, actually use his lawyerin' skills (like Nipper said) rather than just saying "Ooops, didn't actually mean it" when it inevitably backfired on him. But then I tend to expect the best of people. Which opens up the arguement: "Does Jack Thompson count as a person?"
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Quote from: Petteri on Thu 13/10/2005 16:11:29
When I saw the whole thing about anyone being able to make the game I instantly thought about a silly joke game a la DGMacPhee.

Yeah, haha! DG makes his jokes games! Pfft, all my games are 100% serious! In fact, I will give 1 gajillion dollars to Chris Jones' favourite charity (which is called MPNFAHCJ: More Pot Noodles For a Hungry Chris Jones) if anyone can produce and mass market a joke game where a scrappy and incredibly handsome young man named MGDacphee writes an AGS game that turns out to be the BEST GAME EVER! I challenge you! oh boy, do I ever chalenge you! Consider all of you challenged!

o wait it was all satire. teh joke is on you lol.
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