hi guys :D long time since i last posted, anyway they have started showing james bond all of the movies in tv, i am now wathing the first one and it really suprises me how movie effect have changed ;)
anyway i am a big fan of james bond(mostly the old movies)
This will probably turn into a thread about who plays the best James Bond.
If that happens, i pick Roger Moore
(http://www.klast.net/bond/images/moore.jpg)
Quote from: Dark of Night on Sun 05/09/2004 22:58:54
This will probably turn into a thread about who plays the best James Bond.
If that happens, i pick Roger Moore
sean connery ;D
man i forgot who is who, can you put a photo ofeach person because i got one actor in my mind
also, these series will NEVER end
but thw worst actor would be the elf in tvo towers
man i am starting to forget things
Mothafuckin Sean Connery. (Mothafuckas)
I take that dalton back, Sean or Pierce
Sean's the original gangsta, and the best. Dalton is the no!
Roger Moore did the most (he did, right?) but Sean Connery was teh best.. Even though he was Scottish, and all the others are straight up British.
Or maybe Sean Connery IS British... And I'm just an asshole.
Peter Sellers ;D
They started showing them all here as well. And it pisses me off.
I decided to watch one, and it totally surprised me! I mean, I would never have guessed what was gonna happen in the end: He beat up the bad guys and got the girl!
Wow, I'm still totally surprised by that ending.
Why are you pissed tho?
why did you expect? Him to die in the first film?
for favorite actor it has to be Moore or connery
Quote from: [lgm] on Mon 06/09/2004 05:03:14
Roger Moore did the most (he did, right?) but Sean Connery was teh best.. Even though he was Scottish, and all the others are straight up British.
Or maybe Sean Connery IS British... And I'm just an asshole.
Scotland is in Britain, darling.
If we briefly ignore the Casino Royale bunch, Moore was the only English Bond (which I'm guesing is what you meant); George Lazenby is Australian, Timothy Dalton is Welsh and Pierce Brosnan is Irish.
Anyway, I don't know why everyone wanks on about how non-wanky Sean Connery was, as he was utter wank; not a patch on Barry Nelson - the original, and the best.
Not that I've ever seen the one with Barry Nelson, but that's still my opinion.
Sean Connery. That man is sex on legs!
Barry Nelson....?
Barry?
Nelson??
?!?
Played 'James Bond' in Climax!
imdb entry
"Climax!" (1954) playing "James 'Jimmy' Bond" in episode: "Casino Royale" (episode # 1.3) 21 October 1954
wasn't that just a spoof rather than an actual bond film?
It was a spoof but was based on one of Ian Fleming's actual Bond novels.
The Casino Royale movie was a spoof, the episode of Climax! was not.
SO THERE.
Hotspots reply was probably down to my original post, where i just stated 'Casino Royale', not knowing there was a later movie with the same name.
Boy is my face red!
Pierce Brosnan is the best Bond. Reason being, He captures the complete bastard side of him that is addressed in the novels. The only real time it's been done elsewhere was Connery's "Because I had to" when he shot the man in the swamp in Dr. No.
People claim Connery because he IS Connery, the great actor and the original Bond. However, Brosnan captures Bond perfectly, the nuances and style. His films have also been some of the best. Tomorrow Never Dies and TWINE were decent if not spectacular, but Goldeneye was a stunning Bond flick, easily one of the best. DAD had good elements (the imprisonment start was a great touch) but wasn't nearly as accomplished as the others in his reign.
Best Bonds:
Pierce Brosnan
Connery
Dalton (OHMSS was awesome!)
Best Films:
The Man with the Golden Gun (irony, I know)
Goldeneye
On Her Majesty's Secret Service
From Russia With Love
Live and Let Die
*Stamps with 'OFFICIAL'*
Indy's dad is the best, IMHO. When Bond Connery enters in a place, you know there are going to be kills and deaths, whereas Moore uses more charm. Pierce is very good too. Timoty was ok... Good lord, I like them all, except that Aussie, I know he preformed Bond once, but I can't remember the film.
And Peter Sellers was very good to. I liked when he disguised as a Indian support actor to investigate the parties of the cinema stars. I loved the scene with the donkey.
the early movies are by FAR better than the later ones.
Quote from: Flippy_Unplugged on Mon 06/09/2004 12:37:13
Dalton (OHMSS was awesome!)
OHMSS was Lazenby
Dalton did Living Daylights and Licence to Kill
The real question is, which was the best bond song?
IMHO:
1. Goldeneye (duh-du-du-du na-naaah)
2. We have all the time in the world (OHMSS)
3. Goldfinger
4. Live and let die
5. Tomorrow never dies
6. The Man with the Golden Gun
7. The World is Not Enough
This isn't a very interesting opinion, but... I say Brosnon is the best Bond, but he's unfortunatly been often wasted in what are basically fun, but generic modern action movies.
Having said that, I do think that for pure entertainment value Golden Eye and Tommorow Never Dies are close to the top of the Bond heap. TWINE was a godawful mess, though. Haven't seen DAD yet.
And I'm pissed off that this Tarantino/Brosnon/Casino Royale thing isn't going to happen, given that the Bond producers appear to be the only people on this planet of ours that don't think it's a great idea.
Best Bond song? You Only Live Twice, of course!
I can't really put Pierce in the top because the last film has been so so so lame... It's been kinda "Riddick" with all that "Iceberg surf" stuff and all that... It annoyed me a lot.
Pierce's Bond films have always been going downhill, but all of the first three were good.
James Cameron gave the Bond franchise a kick up the bottom when he came up with True Lies. Goldeneye was a great movie as it had to compete with that. But when was the last non-Bond decent spy action movie? XXX maybe... Bourne? These movies still lose out to a TV series in terms of excitement and I think its "24" that the Bond producers should be taking notes on.
And who should be the next bond? Bloom, Gruyffd and Farrell are too skinny, Bale and Owen are too bulky, Jackman and Dougray Scott both look awkward in posh suits, Eric Bana possibly, but I think Ewan McGregor has the suaveness required better than any of the others. I actually think that Robbie Williams could do a good job, too.
Quote from: [lgm] on Mon 06/09/2004 05:03:14
Roger Moore did the most (he did, right?) but Sean Connery was teh best.. Even though he was Scottish, and all the others are straight up British.
Or maybe Sean Connery IS British... And I'm just an asshole.
Sean Connery was British. They all were.
I think what you MEAN is that Connery was Scottish, whereas the rest were English.
Anyway, my favourite Bond's were Connery & Brosnan (surprise surprise). Although I often wonder if as many people would like Connery if he weren't the first Bond, he was the one to set the trend.
I think if Lazenby had done more than one he could have been a good Bond, & certainly more memorable. But he quit after doing one because his agent told him "there was no future in this type of movie"(apparantly). Man, I hope he fired that agent.....
I think my least favourite Bond was Roger Moore. He played the part too camp in my opinion, and went for the comedy side rather than the action, which is not the direction for the films in general. I mean, you wouldn't expect Leslie Neilsen to play Bond would you?
I can hardly remember individual films though, apart from who played Bond in them. I think they're great n all, but they do all follow the same basic formula. There's nothing paticularly wrong with that, it just makes them harder to distinguish.
Quote from: SSH on Mon 06/09/2004 14:05:42
These movies still lose out to a TV series in terms of excitement and I think its "24" that the Bond producers should be taking notes on.
I don't think the bond movies should take a leaf from 24's book. Part of what makes 24 work is the main character (Jack Bauer, for those keeping score)'s shade-of-grey type personality, in that he won't always do everything......erm.....'by the book' (for want of a better, less cliched phrase). Also, Bond has no normal, civilian life to cope with, no family to protect, etc etc, so the same sense of drama & tension could not be achieved, in my opinion.
But hey, if you're at work/school right now, try this:
Get your colleagues to name as many of the Bond films as they can, what year they were released, who played Bond & who sang the theme. 20 films (not including Casino Royale), kudos to anyone who gets all 20.
Also, best theme = Live & Let Die. 'nuff said.
YOU'RE ALL WRONG!!!
Corey Burton was the best James Bond!
(http://www.klast.net/bond/images/jr1.jpg)
(http://users.tinyonline.co.uk/reo/James_Bond-jr.jpg)
(http://www.sierraplanet.com/~ugarte/Features/HMS/hms-coreyburton-3.jpg)
(http://www.virtualtoychest.com/jbjr/jbjrregcrop.jpg)
(http://www.atarihq.com/tsr/nes/jamesbnd.jpg)
omg James Bond Junior -_- I used to have the little car from that, it used to be like my favorite toy, it had the wings on the roof and everything
I remember that show. It was über awesome. Much like Transformers and Masters of the universe.
Quote from: SSH on Mon 06/09/2004 14:05:42
I actually think that Robbie Williams could do a good job, too.
Surely you mean Robin Williams.
Quote from: veryweirdguy on Mon 06/09/2004 14:13:53
Quote from: [lgm] on Mon 06/09/2004 05:03:14
Roger Moore did the most (he did, right?) but Sean Connery was teh best.. Even though he was Scottish, and all the others are straight up British.
Or maybe Sean Connery IS British... And I'm just an asshole.
Sean Connery was British. They all were.
I think what you MEAN is that Connery was Scottish, whereas the rest were English.
This issue has already been addressed by someone smarter and more attractive and more charismatic and considerably more correct then yourself.
TO REITERATE, FOR FOOLS:
Even if we ignore both versions of Casino Royale and James Bond Jr, not all the bonds were British: Lazenby is Australian and Brosnan is Irish. Ã, Moore was the only Englishman.
Quote from: Haddas on Mon 06/09/2004 16:36:25
I remember that show. It was über awesome. Much like Transformers and Masters of the universe.
Blasphemy! Comparing James Bond Jr to Transformers and Heman? You...very young person!!
Quote from: Andail on Mon 06/09/2004 17:23:46
Quote from: Haddas on Mon 06/09/2004 16:36:25
I remember that show. It was über awesome. Much like Transformers and Masters of the universe.
Blasphemy! Comparing James Bond Jr to Transformers and Heman? You...very young person!!
Yeah, I wouldn't actually say it was uber awesome. Just he was the best of the Bonds. The show itself wasn't very dazzling, much like The Karate Kid cartoon.
Quote from: Shattered Sponge on Mon 06/09/2004 17:10:57
Quote from: veryweirdguy on Mon 06/09/2004 14:13:53
Quote from: [lgm] on Mon 06/09/2004 05:03:14
Roger Moore did the most (he did, right?) but Sean Connery was teh best.. Even though he was Scottish, and all the others are straight up British.
Or maybe Sean Connery IS British... And I'm just an asshole.
Sean Connery was British. They all were.
I think what you MEAN is that Connery was Scottish, whereas the rest were English.
This issue has already been addressed by someone smarter and more attractive and more charismatic and considerably more correct then yourself.
Sorry, Sponge, I just skipped your post because I don't like you very much. :P I read the bit where you said you didn't like Connery & then dismissed the rest of your post as 'ptosh' (yes, ptosh) as anyone who doesn't like Connery is
clearly dilousional.
Holy poop on a stick - As an old James Bond fanatic who's interest recently awoke again, I cannot do anything but answer to this.
First of all, the best Movie Bond to me is both Sean and Roger. When the two of them are at their best, the compliment each other perfectly. Connery as the ruthless macho agent who spits out onliners as he knocks out the henchmen, and then there's Moore, as the perfect english gentleman, who always keeps his cool.
I'd call it a draw. Comparing Connery's best scenes to Moore's best scenes just ends up in me being confused and torn...
Lazenby wasn't all that bad as he's been reputed to be either, his job in OHMSS was good, methinks - I f he hadn't jumped off the series, I think he could have grown into the part nicely.
Dalton is a hard one - He's brilliant in TLD, and captures Bond perfectly, with both humour and a cold Fleming-ish chill, although he fails to reach those heights in the far worse LTK, which feels like an ordinary, run-of-the-mill action movie with a main character whose name just happens to be James Bond.
Brosnan is perhaps even harder to judge. He felt a bit stiff and unaccustomed to the role in GE, but got better and better in TND,Ã, TWINE and DAD. (Which is on the whole one of the worst Bond Movies, in my opinion...) If it wasn't for the announcement of his "resigniation", I would definately like to see him go on for another one, not just for his improvement in the role, but also for the sake of continuity.
Oh dear, this turned out to be a longer rant than I expected... Oh well... :)
You only live twice, after all.
Bond Quote for the day:
"Ah, Mr. Bond... You appear with the tediousness as that of an unwanted season."
Quote from: [lgm] on Mon 06/09/2004 05:03:14
Sean Connery was teh best.. Even though he was Scottish.
What's THAT Supposed to Mean, eh? heh,
Connery all the way, you foreigners! He was the original Badass Bond!
When did the Bond films stop being Fleming Creations?
Quote from: veryweirdguy on Mon 06/09/2004 20:32:34Sorry, Sponge, I just skipped your post because I don't like you very much. :P I read the bit where you said you didn't like Connery & then dismissed the rest of your post as 'ptosh' (yes, ptosh) as anyone who doesn't like Connery is clearly dilousional.
Wrong, bitch; those who fawn over the man are the delusional ones. Ã, As you said yourself, people wouldn't be so enamoured with him if they knew he wasn't the first to play the role; this is why I made the 'original and best' crack about Nelson, to prevent people making the same boring statement about boring old Con... oh, let's just stop arguing about this and have some nice makeup sex - I bagsy top!
Quote from: SSH on Mon 06/09/2004 13:40:06
Quote from: Flippy_Unplugged on Mon 06/09/2004 12:37:13
Dalton (OHMSS was awesome!)
OHMSS was Lazenby
Oops.
Quote
The real question is, which was the best bond song?
IMHO:
1. Goldeneye (duh-du-du-du na-naaah)
2. We have all the time in the world (OHMSS)
3. Goldfinger
4. Live and let die
5. Tomorrow never dies
6. The Man with the Golden Gun
7. The World is Not Enough
Unquestionably You Only Live Twice!
1. You Only Live Twice
2. From Russia With Love
3. A View To A Kill (Duran freakin' Duran!)
4. TWINE
5. Tomorrow Never Dies
6. The Living Daylights
7. Live and let Die
8. For Your Eyes Only
9. Moonraker
10. The Man with the Golden Gun
And the worst by far... Thunderball. Absolute tosh.
QuoteI mean, you wouldn't expect Leslie Neilsen to play Bond would you?
SPY HARD.
------------
Incidentally... I believe I can do that, except the year.
Dr. No | 'James Bond' - John Barry Seven Jazz Group
From Russia With Love | Title - Matt Monro
Goldfinger | Title - Shirley Bassey
Thunderball | Title - Tom fscking Jones
You Only Live Twice | Title - Nancy Sinatra
OHMSS | 'Do You Know How Christmas Trees Are Grown?' - Hal David
Alternatively, 'We Have All The Time In The World' - Louis Armstrong
Diamonds Are Forever | Title - Shirley Bassey
Live And Let Die | Title - Paul McCartney & Wings
The Man With The Golden Gun | Title - Lulu
The Spy Who Loved Me | 'Nobody does it better' - Carly Simon
Moonraker | Title - Bassey once again
For Your Eyes Only | Title - Sheena Easten?
Octopussy | 'All Time High' - Rita Coolidge
A View To A Kill | Title - Duran Duran :=
The Living Daylights | Title - Ah-ha
License To Kill | Title - er... Gladys Knight? I could be wrong about that.
Goldeneye | Title - "Not lace or leather..." Tina Turner
Tommorrow Never Dies | Title - Sheryl Crow (awesome song, too)
TWINE | Title - Garbage
Die Another Day | Title - Madonna
Phew... I hope I got those right.
Timothy Dalton was the best Bond. He was truer to the Bond of the books, and he was a better actor. He was also in what I thought was the best film, The Living Daylights.
Roger Moore was far too comic and wooden, and George Lazenby was crap. Pierce Brosnan looks like he's sucking a lemon all the time, and Sean Connery... he was good, but not as good as Dalton.
What about the best bond-girl? A too malist topic?
Anyway, my vote goes for Goldmund's neighbour Isabella Scorupco, from Goldeneye.
Then, Basinger and Ursula.
All the Bond girls... (May contain some soft nudity)
http://home.zonnet.nl/w.de.bruin/007-the%20Girls.htm
(http://i.imdb.com/mptv1.gif)
(http://www.oriflame.com/gn1/opencms/system/galleries/pics/img/about_izabella.jpg)
mmmmm...
DAlton, hmm, Living Day Lights is good but to me Dalton doesnt look (or feel) like James Bond (but thats due to earlier Bonds rather than the books)
Does anyone else find it strange that Bond gets younger as the years go one :D
Quote from: Shattered Sponge on Mon 06/09/2004 21:20:42
oh, let's just stop arguing about this and have some nice makeup sex - I bagsy top!
What does that leave
me with?
Flip, I hate to tell you this, but Spy Hard SUCKED.
Well, it didn't SUCK exactly, but there have been better Leslie Neilsen...things. I got bored with Spy Hard rather quickly when I saw it.
But it looks to me as if you did pretty well on the name game, so, as promised:
(http://www.blm.gov/utah/vernal/kudos.jpg)
James Bond rocks, but the best film is by far GoldenEye
"For England, James?"
"No Alec, for me"
Splat
Excellent
with GoldenEye coming in close second fo me
Goldeneye followed by Goldeneye?
VWG: Awesome, Kudos. I want karma next time, though.
Die Hard wasn't good, but it was just to show you that what he said had already happened.
Best Bond movie? From Russia With Love - no gadgets, no ludicrous supervillains planning to conquor the world, just pure spy business. How I'd love to see somebody (but I'm not so sure about Tarantino) remake Casino Royale in the same style.
Best Bond? I've always like Timothy Dalton because he was closer to the character in the novels, Lazenby was also pretty good - maybe because he was allowed to show emotion. Sean Connery was great, but I actually prefer him in his later movies, like The Untouchables and Name of the Rose.
Who should play Bond? Hugh Grant, obviously! No, just joking. There are two ways the movies could go to save the franchise. One would be making them much darker and more realistic in tone, like the original Fleming novels. Off-hand I can't think of any British actor (thanks SSH :)) who'd fit the bill, possibly Johnny Lee Miller who played Sick Boy in Trainspotting. Another way would be to camp them up - Roger Moore style, except it's no longer the seventies. I'd really love to see Rupert Everett do that type of Bond. I think he would be awesome - like a sexy Austin Powers :)
Best song? It's a toss-up between A View to a Kill and Live and Let Die, I think. Of the Shirley Bassey songs, Diamonds are Forever is probably my favourite.
BTW: The other day I found a dvd (region 1) of Casino Royale which has both the David Niven and the Barry Nelson versions of the movie on it. I have both on VHS already, taped from tv, but until quite recently the Barry Nelson version was very rare.
Quote from: Flippy_D on Tue 07/09/2004 18:40:23
Goldeneye followed by Goldeneye?
I like Goldeneye, sue me..
Quote from: GarageGothic on Tue 07/09/2004 21:02:41
I actually prefer him in his later movies, like The Untouchables and Name of the Rose.
hmmm? American names? do you know the numbers of them so we can compare (they aren't called that originally :/ and Im sitting under the full set right now)
Quote from: GarageGothic on Tue 07/09/2004 21:02:41
Off-hand I can't think of any Englishman who'd fit the bill, possibly Johnny Lee Miller who played Sick Boy in Trainspotting.
The one thing that this thread has shown conclusively is that some people are really ignornat as to the differenences between Scottish, English and British. JLM is Scottish, for goodness sake, wasn't Trainspotting a clue?
And Name of the Rose and Untouchables weren't bond movies... they were Sean movies
oh, right, makes sense XD ::)
Sorry SSH, yeah that was stupid. It's not that I don't know the difference, just that I was thinking "non-american" when I wrote Englishman. But him being Scottish is an ever better reason actually. And we KNOW from Trainspotting that he can do a Sean-accent ;)
I admit I'll always have a fondness for Moore because his films were the ones I grew up with on TV. And The Spy Who Loved Me is probably my personal favourate Bond film overall.
Aside from the campiness (which I can tolerate in small doses) Moore's main problem was that he just didn't know when to stop. By the end of his run, he'd reduced Bond to a late-fifties letch, doddering around in a cardigan, feebly chasing after 18 year olds and their mothers in truly wretched fashion. He was almost as bad as Lazenby in that scene where Bond takes a peak at a Playboy mag. Bond reading Playboy? For shame!
Timothy Dalton was okayish, but dispite having that nice hard edge, he just seems to lack a certain charisma. It doesn't help that Bronon pretty much made him redundant by clearly being able to do everything Dalton could do and more.
It's a real shame he missed out on the role back in the 80's, because Brosnon would really have had a chance to shine in the Dalton movies, in a way he's been largely deprived of in his own.
Like every sane person I have a very bad feeling about where the series is heading. Brosnon was so great in the role that you knew they could release any old shite and you'd still at least have a credible Bond performance to rely on. Without him, what's left?
If Brosnon's not coming back, they need to take a long break to reassess the situation. I can't believe they're being so stupid as to stick rigidly to a 2005 release date when no one involved has more then a vague idea what the hell they should be doing with the franchise.
Quote from: veryweirdguy on Tue 07/09/2004 17:30:07
Quote from: Shattered Sponge on Mon 06/09/2004 21:20:42
oh, let's just stop arguing about this and have some nice makeup sex - I bagsy top!
What does that leave me with?
Bottom!
IN MORE WAYS THAN ONE.
Ok, I understand somebody not thinking Dalton is the best Bond, but you have to be crazy to say Brosnan is a better actor.
apparently a lady I work with went to highschool with/best friends with Barbara Goldbach who later became Barbara Back who then was a bond girl...
crazy world