What do you think of the Holy Bible?
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I think that it's a topic that will create a lot of controversies in AGS, starting a controversy from the to you... Could you please elaborate the posts more? Do you think threads are like grenades that can be thrown with a two-lines post?
(I mock you because I've told many times before what do I think of the bible, and I don't wabt to hurt the feelings of old friends here who are believers! Ã, ;D)
The philosophy is top notch, but the superstition is very bad.
Jesus said a lot of great things... However, none of them new...
Now, how about you do like Farlander said and elaborate on your own post before I just go ahead and lock this as trolling.
The answer is simple. Only see The passion Mel Gibson. Its a good start.
8)
I adore the wacky jesus...
I've only got one thing to say to you ...
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Quote from: ggss on Tue 07/12/2004 22:43:51
What do you think of the Holy Bible?
It's missing a bunch of books. (The Gnostic Gospels) And most of the stories were stolen from many other places.
Kind of reminds me of a Jerry Bruckheimer film....................
Bt
It drags on in a lot of places, and the ending was a letdown. They should have jazzed it up with some car chases, maybe akung-fu fight.
Santiagarro hath returnéd!
I think the Old Testament is awesome, but the sequel wasn't as good. Not nearly enough wrath.
Quote from: ggss on Tue 07/12/2004 22:43:51
What do you think of the Holy Bible?
Nothing is any good if everyone else likes it.
What a good place to wish everyone a Happy Chanukah!
-MillsJROSS
Quote from: ggss on Tue 07/12/2004 22:43:51
What do you think of the Holy Bible?
Very handy next to your bed.
1. When you're cold, you can lite it.
2. When you've had an little "accident" in bed, you can use the bible to dip in dry.
3. When there's a burgluar in your house you can kill him with the bible. It wouldn't be the first time someone dies because of the bible.
It has very nifty stories that make good cartoons. Though I never saw Sodom and Gomorrath in a cartoon... ???
Quote from: Rui "Puss in Boots" Pires on Wed 08/12/2004 09:10:51
It has very nifty stories that make good cartoons. Though I never saw Sodom and Gomorrath in a cartoon... ???
I saw them in a movie... ::) The title included words like "babes" and "hot"... ::)
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Quote from: Gilbot V7000a on Wed 08/12/2004 00:46:31
I adore the wacky jesus...
Hehehe
http://photos1.blogger.com/img/137/1496/1024/ThatWackyJesus006.jpg
Also, I don't want to spoil The Passion of Christ for anyone, but the guy dies in the end.
QuoteAlso, I don't want to spoil The Passion of Christ for anyone, but the guy dies in the end. /quote]
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooo........
...however will they make the SEQUEL? <whimper>
Quote from: Rui "Puss in Boots" Pires on Wed 08/12/2004 13:08:21
QuoteAlso, I don't want to spoil The Passion of Christ for anyone, but the guy dies in the end. /quote]
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooo........
...however will they make the SEQUEL? <whimper>
Fans are waiting millenia for the sequal but Jesus doesn't feel much for it.
Jesus isn't making a sequel because he's been arrested and placed in rehab after police found him sitting naked in large pile of cocai... No, wait that was Robert Downey Jr! My mistake!
I heard the movie 'The Passion of Christ' was based on some book.
QuoteJesus said a lot of great things... However, none of them new...
Actually he said two things worthy of note:
1. God is within you.
2. You may have trouble reaching God within you, but you can get there by forgiving everyone including yourself.
Point 1 was not new. As far as I know point 2 was original with Jesus.
As for the Bible, it's the idolatrous god of fundamentalists. :)
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Judas did it.
I really have nothing to do with anymore... They threw me out of the show right in the start... atleast what I've heard.
I'm so damn slow reader that I haven't even started a book with that many pages...
Quote from: Zooty on Wed 08/12/2004 14:11:43
Judas did it.
Hehe, actually Pontius Pilate did it. But Judas spilt the beans.
Quote from: Doctor Oakroot on Wed 08/12/2004 14:08:55
2. You may have trouble reaching God within you, but you can get there by forgiving everyone including yourself.
I forgive all of you. Really. I am big hearted enough to do that. I just hope you accept it was your fault
I liked the bit in Corinthians 8:43 "And he looked upon the AGA and said, 'thou art of a different culture, my son. Willst thou be shepherd to my flock?'. And he did, and it was good."
Quote from: ggss on Tue 07/12/2004 22:43:51
What do you think of the Holy Bible?
dude, I completely agree with your topic title and I love the Holy Bible, but this is not the right place to ask this :P. People here are crazy (no offense) and they tend to like making fun of religion ::)
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I just love the story about the guy who got banned from a library for moving all the bibles to the fiction-part of the library.
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I know many of you are athiests but that's beside the point. Many people are very fond of the Bible and all the Truths in it (which I'm sure you consider pointless little sayings that you would love to make fun of) and you just make ridicule of everything in the Bible a cheap terrible way.Ã, Ã, Ã, :-[
I know many people who would be offended by many of the things said here, but as the majority of the forums are (non believing in God types) it doesn't seem that anyone was offended by anything yet.
The Bible is the greatest book in the universe though I see some of you don't regard it that much.
I know you guys are all joking and stuff but it seems like some of you have gone a little far.Ã, :-\
Somehow I just feel these words will be meaningless to you and that you won't have a change of position but I just felt like getting this off my heart to you guys.
I don't mean to offend anyone and I'm sorry if I did. I hope you guys can see this from a different point of view, until then cya.
That's all from me now...Ã, :)
I know religion, to people who don't believe in it, seems stupid. But I guess my question is, why torment the people who accept the Bible as truth and Jesus as their Savior?
If you really have an issue with christianity, can't you be respectful and mature about it.
What about that little rule # 2, which says:
Post in a mature manner. Remember, the minimum age here is 16 - if you're unable to act that age, don't post.
What did christians ever do to you to make you so bitter? Remember just because somebody says they're a christian doesn't mean they really are one. If they cut you down, criticized you or tried to force their religion and beliefs on you, they aren't much of a christian.
IBTL!
Heheh, just kidding around, sorry.
Half of the teasing in this thread is based on the fact that the original post is completely random. It states two articles of faith (I'm not going to start an arguement by calling them either "facts" or "opinions") and a question.
If ggss had actually put a little effort into the post--"I am a Christian, these are my beliefs, this is why I believe them, this is what other people say, what are your thoughts?"-- we could have had a discussion. As it is, we would have written similar responses to a thread called "My puppy is awesome! My puppy can do tricks!" with the entire post consisting of "What do you think of puppies?"
Yeah, the original post wasn't exactly elaborate, but it seems that some people here are more than ready to leap on anything dealing with religion. This isn't the first time this has happened.
Quote from: OmJay on Thu 09/12/2004 00:59:45
The Bible is the greatest book in the universe though I see some of you don't regard it that much.
That's because it's not the greatest book in universe. That title is reserved for 'Kloblartz and Prejudice' from the planet Nebulon. Second place goes to 'Green Eggs and Ham'.
As much as it's noble for people to start a topic on the bible, it's probably better if they started a post like this in, say, oh I don't know, a Christian forum. I think you'd get a more productive discussion there. We make fun of the bible -- that could be okay for people to handle and I'd like to think any direhard Christians wouldn't judge us for doing so. After all, we are only human as much as anyone. If you prick us, we bleed too. If there are Christians who are offended by our comments, then adopt a Christian view of this: forgive us and maybe visit someplace else. We (and by we, I mean mainly CJ) run our forum this way. We joke and have fun. We try not to be too serious, or else God gets angry and makes it snow lizards on our screensavers or whatever crazy plague he's thinking of. But saying that we've "gone too far" only distances us, and thus we argue/make fun/whatever it is we do around here.
As for seeing the other point of view, yes we do. We always have. But we see the OTHER OTHER point of view too -- the one where we can be light-hearted on such matters. We hope you, as guests to our forum, understand our point of view.
And while on the topic of other points of view, why is it always the Bible? How come no one asks what we think of the Koran?
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Quote from: Pumaman on Wed 08/12/2004 18:52:46
I liked the bit in Corinthians 8:43 "And he looked upon the AGA and said, 'thou art of a different culture, my son. Willst thou be shepherd to my flock?'. And he did, and it was good."
"And He didst tell the AGA, 'please, for the love of Me, stay away from teh sheep!'. And he did, and it was also good."
I see your point.
I'm sorry if I crossed the line in my post which I think I did.
I just read the whole thread from the start and in myself I thought that it just turned into a mock the bible and make fun of it thread.
I know you guys are just joking around and having fun but it just hurt me somewhere, so I just posted what my feelings were.
Once again sorry for over reacting in my post.
The bible is a bunch of bullshit made just to get people to think I'm a nut. You're probably going to hell, deal with it - no so-called bible is going to save you.
Quote from: Jesus on Thu 09/12/2004 03:00:11
The bible is a bunch of bullshit made just to get people to think I'm a nut. You're probably going to hell, deal with it - no so-called bible is going to save you.
I smell troll.
Hmm, we better be careful not to feed the poor attention-starved thing.
To everybody:
God doesn't get angry when you mock the Bible and ridicule him.
He isn't sitting on his throne just waiting for you to mess up so he can scream "Eternal condemnation on you!" Ã, However, that doesn't mean he'll tolerate it forever. Ã, You have to choose whether you except him or not. Ã, So don't get too defensive thinking that God hates you. Ã,Â
God wants us to know how much he loves us and that we can be forgiven for anything, if you're really sorry. Ã, Really, the only thing he can't forgive is what you won't confess. Ã, It's obvious he loves us, or else he wouldn't have sent his son to be nailed to a cross for us. Ã,Â
I accept Christ as my saviour, and I wish you all would do the same. Ã, God never forces, and I can't force you to accept him either.
Quote from: Raggit on Thu 09/12/2004 03:15:45God doesn't get angry when you mock the Bible and ridicule him. He isn't sitting on his throne just waiting for you to mess up so he can scream "Eternal condemnation on you!" However, that doesn't mean he'll tolerate it forever. You have to choose whether you except him or not. So don't get too defensive thinking that God hates you.
Coming from a different Christian perspective, I have to say, I don't really agree. Yeh, I'm buddies with many of these AGSers who're mocking my religion. I don't like what they do, but I don't preach to them every time they get carried away. Also ... I don't think God has a magic number that he uses... I mean, if he isn't going to tolerate what they are doing later, he shouldn't now either. God doesn't change, and neither do his views on sin. Those who mock him are still sinning, whether it's their first time or 500th time, he doesn't like it. He loves them, mind, but he doesn't tolerate what they are doing. And, if they don't repent ... they'll end up paying for it in the end. Now, I do not think he's up there yelling "Eternal condemnation on you!" either. Mostly because we were all born sinners. These AGSin' folk didn't just become sinners when they typed their 'witty' replies. They've been them. I am a sinner. Besides, he doesn't want us in Hell, naturally.
Quote from: Raggit on Thu 09/12/2004 03:15:45
However, that doesn't mean he'll tolerate it forever.
But God's son taught tolerance forever. Plus God is supposed to be perfect, and perfection does mean a wholly tolerant being. Besides, I think if God is perfection then he's got the best sense of humour in the world. I know this cause he once played a prank on me by setting my pubic hair on fire and telling me it was a Burning Bush. Har har har. Luckily, he healed my third degree burns so no harm done. I can look back and laugh now.
Quote from: Raggit on Thu 09/12/2004 03:15:45
To everybody:
God doesn't get angry when you mock the Bible and ridicule him.
He isn't sitting on his throne just waiting for you to mess up so he can scream "Eternal condemnation on you!" Ã, However, that doesn't mean he'll tolerate it forever. Ã, You have to choose whether you except him or not. Ã, So don't get too defensive thinking that God hates you. Ã,Â
God wants us to know how much he loves us and that we can be forgiven for anything, if you're really sorry. Ã, Really, the only thing he can't forgive is what you won't confess. Ã, It's obvious he loves us, or else he wouldn't have sent his son to be nailed to a cross for us. Ã,Â
How dare you believe that you know thing one about GOD and what he thinks. How egocentric.
Bt
Blackthorne:
I didn't claim I knew what God was thinking. Read the Bible and find out what I'm talking about, don't take my word for truth.
I really don't want to argue if you're just trying to get me all worked up. That won't work.
Tiki:
I probably used the wrong words. I don't believe God has a counter either. What I meant was that when the judgment day comes, God isn't going to be very tolerant. Nobody will have room to say "I didn't mean it" or "nobody told me it was wrong."
But now is the time to accept him. The Bible says he casts our sins to the very bottom of the sea and never remembers them. Satan is the one who remembers them and uses them against us.
DG:
You're very right, God created humor and I believe he has a sense of humor. However, like everything he has created, there is corruption in it. Everything good that God gave us has a side which Satan corrupted. God doesn't really appreciate a corrupted sense of humor.
I hope that people can understand I don't mean to preach a sermon. I'm not looking down on you, and I hope you all know that. I make mistakes, I commit sins, I am guilty of making dirty jokes. But, I believe God is always there and that I'm working my way towards him.
I'm not going to force you to listen to me or accept my beliefs.
Hey, what's this? Serious discussion? Are we really going to allow this thread to devolve into rational debate when we could go on making wiseass comments instead?
Let's get back on topic, (God)dammit!
Oh, shut up. All of you. This is precisely why we avoid talking about religion on these boards. Someone always gets offended, and someone else always ends up preaching.
Quote from: QuantumRich on Thu 09/12/2004 05:04:28
Oh, shut up. All of you. This is precisely why we avoid talking about religion on these boards. Someone always gets offended, and someone else always ends up preaching.
Heh. I'm not really offended. I just wanted to hear the typical "read the bible" response!
As if that book was written by the hand of God herself! That book is no more written by a diety than the last isssue of Penthouse I read was.
Bt
The second day of Chanukah has come!
As far as religion is concerned, why not just agree to disagree? People have been arguing about it for thousands of years, I'm fairly certain we won't come to a ground breaking conclusion. Nor is anything said on either side going to convince anyone that their side will be wrong.
I could pass witty comebacks all day about what I actually think of the Bible. But I think it's better to just accept that my beliefs are different from you beliefs, and that way no one is offended, and no one feels attacked.
-MillsJROSS
You know what? Jesus was buried in the tomb preppaired for Joseph of Arimathea...
Joseph was a rich man of Jerusalem.
The tombs of the rich men in Jerusalem had in many ocasion big niches to bury something else...
The jewish law tells the women must preappair the corpse.
But the bible says Joseph and some other men were in the tomb the first day... what were they doing? Let me tell ya... They were hiding Jesus body in the niche... There was no resurrection, just a big hoax. of course the romans did not find the body... Oh, wait! the apostles saw him after his dead some times, yeah! (Great witnesses, we can say... they had no kind interests in ressurect the leader of the movememnt they had in his hands, no... :P).
How can you believe? Do you make it democratic? Christians are 3,000 millions, 1,000 millions more than the muslims, we win!!! Is that the trick? It's been the judeo-christian God himself, Yahvé, who came from heaven, touched you, and told "believe in me, the buddists are wrong, the sinthoists are dumb... and don't believe the Jews, He was my son, indeed he was!" I see more plausible that this Gods are just a invention of the weak human creatures to avoid in some way their feeling of lonelyness.
The life has been in earth for 5,000 milions of years, and we're celebrating soon the 2005th anniversary of our religion, the human creates Gods, not the opposite. The history of the universe, of the earth and its life is that lovely that the idea of simplifying it with a powerful God making it all spares...
Do people REALLY sit around and contemplate the bible as often as it's sounding? :o
I'm an eskimo, (native people of the North American continent for Old Worlders), and I wasn't raised around the bible so maybe I can't understand. Ã, However, no one says "Did you like Cantabury Tales" on a Doom 3 mod site. Ã, Is there some engraven law that forces someone to "stitch" the bible to EVERY aspect of his/her world?
Oh, so this has got serious? What a pity. I always enjoy making fun of things that have always been taking too seriously (seriously enough to start the damned [pun intended] Inquisition, for instance, as well as adopting some ridiculous positions against some things in this day and age).
Ok, some of you may say this has more to do with the INSTITUTION that the actual RELIGION, I know, I know. But really, what is SO different about all the religions there are? They all say there's someone out there who wants us to love each other (except for some other religions who say that's just common sense and the person "out there" is another form of us, and some more complicated stuff). I don't want to offend anyoone, but I truly believe religions are useless, because they are, 1) common sense stuff that everyone should abide to anyway (basically, be a good sport in this great soccer game called Life), and 2) based on a book which brings nothing new.
As far as I can tell, the bible and its stories make a nice way to bring up children and teach them morales. But other than that... well, let's put it like this. Raining sulphur? Turning into salt? Woman from man's rib? That's got to be metaphorical, but so many people just INSIST to read it literally that I go "God, God, give Thy children a brain" and give up.
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No-one has ever changed their religious beliefs one way or another based on an an internet discussion thereof
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I don't understand why you want to discuss the bible. There are too many religions in the world and I think you should discuss them all, 'cause they all could be true (who knows). I'm a Christian myself but I don't belife. Sounds a bit strange, I know. But how could you beliefe in something that was responsible for so many bad things (I mean every religion by this, not just one specific). You can beliefe in god or in the ideas of the religion, I can even imagine to beliefe in the bible, but it's still the morals of it that are important.
BTW, did anyone read "Nathan the Wise" (I'm not sue if it is called this in english) by Gotthold Efraim Lessing? The main thing this book says is that you can't say what is the right religion (which is my opinion as well), and you can't say if the bible or the existens of god is true, in my opinion.
God is like Santaclaus except that your parents forgot to tell you he's not real. Think about it.
When I was 4 I believed in Santaclaus. How could I not, his face was on tv, my parents sais that he gave the presents, he has magic power. But when I got older, I started to think for myself and stopped following. The awnsers didn't mix up with my questions. And then my mother said he wasn't real, and suddenly EVERYTHING made sense.
I'm not religious. My complete familie is not religious. That doesn't mean that we're all anarcists. I still give small change to homes people, give directions to strangers and visit my grandmother. Not because I want to secure a place in heaven (what most religeous people want), but so people will remember me as a good person when I'm gone.
Before the Wright brothers, there was a frence guy who jumped of the Eifeltower with two sticks with feathers glued to it. He made a hole in the asfalt half a meter deep. He jumped because he believed in his invention but died because in reality you can't fly with feathers on a stick, no matter how much you believe in (god or) yourself!
There is not god. When you're dead, you're dead. I simply want you to see the truth, because you deserve the truth.
Religious beliefs aside, you can't really make fun of what someone believes in - with (what you to believe to be) witty quotes, pictures and signing up as Jesus and telling everyone to go to hell - and then when they reply - some screaming in indignation, some trying to reason - you tell them to stay away from your freedom of speech and to accept their sense of humour as God would as well.
Whew... That was a long sentence.
I mean if someone posts telling you their mother is the greatest person alive, and you would all love her (something as wacky as how this thread started), and you started insulting her, involving sheep and making pictures etc, they wont like it. You can't exactly tell them that if their mother was so great, she wouldn't mind their humour.
The only reason I can think of such a vehement "funning" is religious insecurity. I mean, accept it that there are many religions out there that don't agree with your "I am an athiest, because it is the most logical thing to be" ideas, and they never will. As suggested, just agree to disagree.
I am not really advocating religious mania either. I am sure it is very annoying to have people push their beliefs on you, but just tell them that this is not the place to discuss such things. Lock the topic if need be. Making fun will just fuel there mania.
When some adult man believes the things that are told in Bible... some of us just can't avoid make fun of it...
I hope that in 2,000 years there will be another similar discussion in a virtual café with a bunch of guys telling "Yes... he sacrificed his life, but he came stronger as ever to fight the evil!" "There are something in the universe that we can't see, but it moves it all"
And some of the other guys will say "No, Lucas was just trying to tell a tale! He was not telling real facts!"
Sollution bellow:
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He... And now... I think Babar is right somehow...
/me stops making fun...
We are only human.
Athesists/whateverists: Don't try to make the Christians "realise" there is no God. How could you possibly know there isn't?
Christians: Do not be shocked and surprised at the comments here. I'm sure you can see why any non-religious person might find it silly to think there's a guy up in the clouds that knows everything and chooses what to do with your soul after you die.
What are my religious beliefs then? I don't really believe anything, because there's no way I could know what's truth and what isn't, so I don't want to take a stand and argue for something that may not be true at all. I just acknowledge the different opinions and then move on.
well, you're so freaking diplomatic, Ghormak, it brings tears to my eyes.
Just last night you said to me over irc: "damn those christians, let's burn them on stakes!"
Quote from: Petteri on Wed 08/12/2004 13:58:40
I heard the movie 'The Passion of Christ' was based on some book.
No it's the other way around.
I'm Christian, but not extremist. I don't get upset about those comments. I kid and joke about religion, but if God's there he'll know I'm kidding.
You know, it's always amused me how most religious people hold the belief that without religion people are evil heartless bastards who become murderers and rapists and cannot control their urges and instincts and emotions.
I am an atheist. And I'm the nicest, kindest, most generous and giving person you will ever meet. I don't believe in anything. I just believe in my person morals and the belief that I should treat others the way I would like to be treated. The Bible does have some good advice, but to me, most of it is nonsense. I don't believe in God. I don't believe Jesus had magical powers. To me, God is a mythical being that is interesting to study and read about. But to believe God exists? Let alone worship him? That's a stretch of the imaginaton as far as I'm concerned and I prefer to believe in established fact. Don't be offended. Just like I'm not offended whenever somebody says "You must choose Jesus as your savior, because sooner he won't tolerate it anymore and start whooping your candy-ass." I'm just telling it like it is.
I mean, think about it. Really think about it. Does it make much sense for a perfect God to create a people, to give them free will, only to demand that they worship you every waking minute of their lives? It makes more sense to me for a God to only ask that his people be moral and good and do whatever they feel like doing. Indulgence shouldn't be a sin; it makes no sense for it to be. Why wouldn't God love us enough to let us do whatever we felt like doing? I never understood why I had to even attend church or pray to him every night. At that point, I believed he existed (much like I believed in Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny), so I figured why would he want me to take time out of the life he gave me, to waste it away standing, sitting, kneeling, shaking hands, eating crackers, bowing my head, singing, reading. It is not a productive use of one's time and to me it's a sin. I would be wasting time out of the life that God gave me to do whatever I wanted. I'm sure he wouldn't want me wasting it like that. I know he exists, and if he's omniscient then he already knows this. It is pointless and futile to actually act out my belief in him, if he already knows I acknowledge him.
Of course, I woke up eventually and saw that God is just a figment of our imagination. Is it any coincidence that the only records of people being contacted by God are thousands of years old? Oh sure, we can explain it away as the fact that God is saddened by us and he is disappointed and is sulking somewhere ini heaven. So why doesn't he just contact somebody and prove he exists? Oh! Because God "works in mysterious ways" and he expects us to believe in him regardless of proof. How...convenient. I saw through all these lies and convenient explanations and backing-out.
Sorry for that rant. It's just the way that I feel. I refuse to believe some paltry explanation of "we must have faith, regardless of proof" and "we must worship him because it is a way for us to control you all God expects us to". None of if made any sense to me.
So what I guess I'm really trying to say here is that people don't necessarily need religion to have morals. Morals can exist without religion. It's a ridiculous notion that without religion, morals either fall apart or don't exist at all.
Quote from: QuantumRich on Thu 09/12/2004 19:00:25
I figured why would he want me to take time out of the life he gave me, to waste it away standing, sitting, kneeling, shaking hands, eating crackers, bowing my head, singing, reading. It is not a productive use of one's time and to me it's a sin.
God makes people do all that?
"Eating Crackers" Does that make low-carb dieting a sin for Christians?
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