Kill Bill

[Las Naranjas]

Having seen neither Reloaded or Kill Bill yet, I can probably say that I'd prefer the latter because it has not pretences about baing anything more than it is, which I can dig.

[Sylpher]

I am going to see Kill Bill tonight so I will return with my thoughts on that later..however I read an article yesterday about the Wachowski brothers and what interesting facts this article revealed.

1. They give a list of influences. Amoung the top being..George Lucas, John Woo and Stanley Kubrick. Opinions on these people aside what about the more then dozen sci-fi authors who have brought up the exact same philosophical questions brought up in the matrix? Hey..yeah maybe they stumbled upon some of the ideas on there own but fuck them if they think they rock that much..

2. They claim Andy is the Sci-Fi fan and Larry is the philosopher. With that combination and enough time and study you would think they would bring something new and interesting to the idea of "What if we were living in a fake world"...Well you know. Besides Sun glasses and camera effects.

3. They retained all creative control on the movie except casting. Warner Bros. choose Keanu to play as Neo and they weren't very happy about it. Warner Bros. say they choose him for "demographical appeal".

After the success of the matrix they are very please to work with him:

'"Now they feel so grateful they have him." The Matrix went on to generate more then $440 million in worldwide ticket sales.'

yeah..

I liked the matrix...as a movie. However compared to much better Science Fiction/Anime/Philosophers before it. It doesn't even compare.

(Not that I am trying to turn this into a matrix discussion. I just figured this was better said in here then making a new thread.)

[DMonkey]

I like how it had better fight scenes than the Matrix while using almost no CGI.

[DGMacphee]

I saw the first Matrix and enjoyed it, but the second one was a bloody bore.

It dragged on and the climax was so fucked -- Neo meets the Architect, the Architect says some crap, and Neo finds out the real world might not be the real world.

Big fucking deal.

The way I see it, Neo and the Architect should have fought with bigass samurai swords inside a giant, metalic vagina.

That would have been cool!

Also, the Bride would kick the shit out of Neo, even if he has his "wuss-ability" to change the Matrix world.

Let me put it in perspective:


So awesome, I want to flip out!



Ponce.

[remixor]

Anyway, The Matrix Reloaded was a big pile of shit.  I almost walked out of the theatre.  I didn't even really think The Matrix was that great, but I was totally unprepared for the idiocy of Reloaded.

The way I see it, Neo and the Architect should have fought with bigass samurai swords inside a giant, metalic vagina.

Then that French guy could have made the vagina explode!

[DGMacphee]

Remixor, we should team up and make our own version that doesn't suck donkey's balls!

[remixor]

I'm tingling with anticipation already!

[Grundislav]

I didn't see The Matrix Reloaded, nor do I plan to, nor do I plan to see the 3rd one, but I did see Kill Bill Vol. 1, and let me say I have not had such a great time watching a movie in a while.  It was incredibly entertaining, and while I don't consider myself a Tarantino "fan" per se, my respect for him as a filmmaker has skyrocketed.  I can't wait for Volume 2 to come out, but I plan on seeing Volume 1 at least one more time, because it's just so good.

[Chrille]

Damn you! I couldn't two whole months for Kill Bill to open in Sweden so I downloaded it.

::weeps in shame::

It was still pretty good quality though and the movie totally rocked. Not calling it a best movie ever or anything, but it was very well done and very entertaining. Gonna see it when it opens in the theatres as well

[Andail]

There's one version circulating around the filesharers that I downloaded, but it had crappy quality and the text "property of Miramax" or something clearly visible on the screen the whole time...
So I decided not to ruin the experience, but wait for cinemas to show it

[FruitTree]

I'm gonna miss kill bill since I'll be in Nicaragua when it comes out here
I can't believe it I waited 6 F***** years to see this movie and now I'm gonna miss it, tough luck I guess

I will be back in time to see part 2 though

BTW I heard Quentin was planning a war movie called: the inglorious bastards, it's supposed to be a tribute to nam movies (wich he's also a big fan of, see true romance)

[remixor]

I'm gonna miss kill bill since I'll be in Nicaragua when it comes out here
I can't believe it I waited 6 F***** years to see this movie and now I'm gonna miss it, tough luck I guess

It's been in planning for 6 years??

BTW I heard Quentin was planning a war movie called: the inglorious bastards, it's supposed to be a tribute to nam movies (wich he's also a big fan of, see true romance)

Yeah, Inglorious Bastards is still in production last I heard.  It was originally going to be his next project before Kill Bill, but I'm pretty sure it hasn't been cancelled or anything.

[DGMacphee]

Aye, it's supposed to be a Dirty Dozen-style film.

I also heard at one stage Adam Sandler was going to be in it.

I don't know if it's going to be a tribute to 'Nam films, because it's set in WWII.

[mostly at work]

I really liked The Matrix Re-loaded, and in fact thought it was BETTER because of the poopyness of the CGI (at least it wasn't trying to trick us into thinking it was COOL PEOPLE doing stuff, but in fact showing us a cool puppet show... what irritates me is when CGI is used to make people look like they're doing clearly impossible things to such an extent that we say "sure it LOOKS like him, but I KNOW it's not because that's clearly impossible" because then I'm not thinking about the film, I'm thinking about the animation. Poopy animation is better in a lot of ways).

Also: Pulp Fiction is WAAAAAAY too boring to sit through more than once. I mean, it swings from pretentious to astoundingly dull so violently that it'd make you mostion sick if it wasn't so plodding. I really enjoyed Jackie Brown, but KILL BILL is nothing like any of them. It's also nothing like as mindless as I thought it was going to be, which was cool!

[Timosity]

I just saw it and I can say, I love the way Tarantino ads subtle humor to balance out the violence

Spoiler

the way Uma hides the knife from the little girl after she's just killed her mother (even though her mum is pissing with blood on the floor)
Uma spanking the Japanese boy with the sword, classic
The 17 yr old body guard chick - no more needs to be said
Buck Fuck
There are many more less obvious ones, but these things are what makes this movie great.

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Spoiler

The realisticness of blood spaying after cutting a head or limb off (although I don't think the pressure would last as long as it did in some scenes. [although I've never seen this happen in real life])

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It was actually a really funny movie, which I wouldn't mind seeing again just to find all the subtle bits I may have missed. It was entertaining from start to finish, although obvious what would eventuate.

Very much looking forward to Vol. 2

I can't believe people would even associate or compare any relationship between that shitty Decoded movie or whatever, that was filmed up the street

[DGMacphee]

Spoiler

Also, another subtle touch:

I saw it with my Dad and he said he saw in the huge fight Uma chop one guy's leg off but instead of blood spewing from the stump, blood was spewing from the limb.

Very subtle and very funny.

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[Shattered Sponge]

I saw it on sunday; it was at my local arthouse, and I attended a talk on Tarrantino beforehand.  Then, once I got home I found that Jackie Brown (still my favourite of his movies; anyone who found it 'boring' whilst claiming to enjoy his other films obviously only appreciated them on their most superficial level, and can't understand real depth) was on TV; I even got my mum to watch that one, and she really liked it.

So a fun time was had by all, then.

I was somewhat taken aback, however, by the tone of the film.  The mindfully constructed mindless fun aspect is definately dominant, but there were some moments where it was genuinely unnerving (particularly the opening, especially with the music in the following credits sequence), and I was also surprised to find myself getting rather emotionally attached to The Bride (rather than getting a mere 'She the man!' reaction I was expecting).

But then, maybe I'm just odd that way.

[Andail]

anyone who found it 'boring' whilst claiming to enjoy his other films obviously only appreciated them on their most superficial level, and can't understand real depth

Hey dude, be easy on the verdicts

[Breeta]

I just saw Kill Bill and I loved it. I haven't been to see a full price movie a long time cause I havent seen any that looked worth $15.. but Kill Bill definately was. I don't think it would be as cool on a small screen.
My bf told me that Q.T. was inspired by watching anime to make Kill Bill, and the whole movie seemed like a live-action anime to me. The dialogue and the character's personalities were perfect. I especially liked the blood spray-effect. Also showing the crazy 88 gang looking all tore up after the fight was a nice touch. I can't wait until vol. 2 comes out. And anyone who likes anime should SEE KILL BILL!!!

[Czar]

Ha ha. I laugh at all of you.
Texas Chainsaw massacre (remake) has a bigger box office... or something.. naah naah..