King Kong

Started by LGM, Wed 14/12/2005 04:24:24

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Nikolas

*****

Five stars!

I saw King Kong. I went to the cinema in order to see Narnia, but there was also King Kong, and to me there wasn't a question! King Kong. I'll see Narnia some other time!

Now about CGI.

Visually perfect! Judging from a dvd I had rented of "Gorillas in the mist", Kong was perfect. All the king size creatures in there were perfect! No argue!

But

The reason I don't particularly like in CGI, is not the visual part. It's the logical part. And I don't mind the existance of monsters, demons, Kongs, vampires (saw a trailer of Underworld Evolution), it is the freaking thing that after 2 hours of chasing in the jungle Naomi Watch (sp) doesn't have not even a scratch. Not ot mention that her make up is still there. And while resting on the *huge* arms of King Kong she's also clean!

You see I really liked the movie, but seeing Naomi being uterly crashed in his hands for half an hour and then not having not even a scratch! That's the problem. There are no limits to what a director want and can do and the put no limits to the action also, which would probably be too much.

*****

LGM

She gets beat up a little, but you're right she shouldn't have been so clean at night. Unless he gave her a bath.
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Potch

Ok, here's my opinion on CGI and films and the like, take it or leave it.  So many people complain about CGI and unrealism and not enought CGI, too much CGI.... then people complain about films not being deep enough, or enough action or... well... blah blah blah... the thousand other complaints I hear about movies.  What I think is that people have forgotten how to just sit back and enjoy a movie without analyzing everything.  I personally think people have gotten too picky.  I love movies, and I can usually find something great about almost any movie.  Granted... there have been a few that I just think are absolute crap, but they are few and far between. 

Remember people.   When you agree to watch a movie about a giant gorilla, or talking lions, or hobbits, or wizards, or galaxies far far away... you've already had to suspend a bit of disbelief to see the movie itself.  Use your imagination to suspend it a little farther, and you might find that you can enojy so many more movies. 

Just my two cents... I hope I didn't offend anyone.  :)
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Joseph DiPerla

I really like it! I just came back from seeing it. In all honesty though, I dont remember much of the original one since I havent seen it in ages. I have to see it again to see which is better. But it looks like this one might be the better movie. Jack Black was awesome.

As far as the CGI... I expected a fake movie, which is what Kong is. So the CGI did not disappoint me. It was as real as CGI gets.
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Pet Terry

Woah I'm late.

Hello, I just saw the movie. I can't really say if it was good or not, so I'm just going to say it was okay. The plot was very detailed, I liked that. I also liked how some of the backdrops (like the snowy park in New York or the valley where Kong beat Rex) looked like they were actually made in the 30s. They didn't look real, but they looked... magical? I don't know if that was intentional or not, but I liked it. The movie also made me feel like something I haven't felt in years when watching a movie. When Kong kidnapped Ann and ran through the jungle. The shaky camera and stuff made it look painful and nightmarish, something I would never want to feel. I haven't felt like that since I watched a creepy UFO movie when I was a kid. Another parts that made me feel strange were when
- Ann was inside the hollow log and those creepy bugs started approaching her.
- When some of the crew members fell to the bottom of the canyon and all those giant bugs and worms appeared.

I seriously wanted to look away. It was like a nightmare and I wanted to wake up, but I couldn't. I wanted to close my eyes, but that would have been silly. It was icky! I hate that kind of critters. There were some kids watching the movie too, I just wonder how much they got freaked out when those worms ate... Herb? Or whatever was the name of the cook.

The characters were well made in my opinion. I didn't like Carl at all, Jack Black was an excellent choice to play him. Carl was so big asshole, shame he didn't die in the end.

Jack was your average hero, but also very good character. I wanted Ann to escape Kong, but she fell in love with him! What a fool! Though the final scene with them on the roof of Empire State building was very nice.

I didn't quite get Baxter. He wanted to save his own ass everytime, and all of a sudden he wanted to save the crew from the bug ridden canyon! And in the end he suddenly wanted to save his own ass again when it looked that Kong was very pissed off. Baxter was a nice character though, snobbyish and exactly like some selfish actor star would probably be.

As for the minor characters, I liked Jimmy, but I don't quite get why he changed so much during the movie. I mean, at first he was like some small thief, a no good youngster, then suddenly he was all heroish and stuff. Hayes was probably my favourite character though. He was like Jimmy's father or big brother, and the wisest man of the whole crew. Since from the beginning I was hoping he would survive all the way to the end, but somewhere in my mind I knew he was going to die. I swear if the actor would have been white, Hayes wouldn't have died.

Overall, not bad movie. I really liked the idea to have dinosaurs, though I don't think it's fair to compare the first movie with this new one because so much has changed in the movie industry during the years. Go figure.
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ManicMatt

Quote from: Potch on Fri 16/12/2005 23:31:17
Ok, here's my opinion on CGI and films and the like, take it or leave it.Ã,  So many people complain about CGI and unrealism and not enought CGI, too much CGI....

With me, and king kong and say spiderman, the CGI on the humans just looks stupid! They look like ragdolls! I audibly laughed whilst watching king kong when Kong shakes the woman around. This over-reliance on the CGI (Which is fine for Kong himself) ruins the immersion and reminds me I'm watching a film. (Akin to the old computer games where you'd go around collecting floppy disks and joysticks etc)

evenwolf

Hey guys,

I hadn't seen this before so I'll post briefly about King Kong:

Mucho respect for Peter Jackson.  His work with Naomie Watts and a CGI gorilla was outstanding.  For the first time the reactions were real and believable.

Much of that has to do with Andy Cirkis's job standing in as Kong.  Another great performance.

However, the movie was a giant ball of CHEESE.  Sure the 1930s was full of fast -talking and high hopes, but jesus- this movie had ridiculous dialogue!!!

Case in point: the black sailor and the young castaway.  The WORST dialogue I've heard in a movie this year.   My friend and I were literally laughing at the line "It's not about bravery."

The characters simply did not hold any weight.   That's my biggest gripe.  My second is that many of the FX shots looked bad.   NOT Kong at any point, or the fight with the T-Rexes.    But the establishing shots of New York, the sweeping shot of the crow's nest of the boat, and of course THE DAMN DINO STAMPEDE IN WHICH A MAN JUMPKICKS A VELOCIRAPTOR.    People looked they were standing in front of a green screen and not actually running side by side under dinosaurs.    But i digress,  overall a good movie.

No arguments further from me, thanks.
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rharpe

So far only two people I know went to go see it and almost left because their behinds were starting to go numb. I'm not sure if the version everyone in Europe sees is the same as it is here in the US... who knows? I'm still interested in seeing it, but I probably will wait for it to arrive on DVD... if it runs for 3 hours, I want to be able to pause the movie for a potty break and more popcorn!

They said that the fight scenes were drawn out too much and the feeling you got was "when is this movie going to end?" They insisted that I watch the "Polar Express" over this dud.  :-\

Still want to see it... need more good reviews please.  ;)
"Hail to the king, baby!"

ManicMatt

I didn't regret watching it by any means, but yeah, wait for the DVD, it's very long!

It was probably the last time I go cinema in a long time, at least in my local warner (or as they foolishly call themselves these days, vue) because it just costs too much now for what you're getting.

=The=Brat=

Peter Jackson Rules, I havnt actually seen king kong yet or the old one coz i dont stay up late waiting for it to come on ABC or BBC but after seeing LOTR and the new potter films i bet its awsome, Peter Jackson kicks snail butt! w00t!

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