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Title: Larry 8 without Al!!!
Post by: on Sat 26/07/2003 23:53:54
Hi all! This is coming from Al Lowe's site!!!www.allowe.com
Apparently there has been recent speculation that Sierra is making a new Larry game but without Al Lowe. If you could please come sign this petition to Sierra it would be very helpful. The petition makes it clear that we want a new larry game but with Al involved. Thanks.
http://www.PetitionOnline.com/lsl1134/petition.html

Title: Re:Larry 8 without Al!!!
Post by: on Sun 27/07/2003 00:36:59
Get over it! It's time for a new game, not a twenty-billionth sequel! :p

m0ds
Title: Re:Larry 8 without Al!!!
Post by: scotch on Sun 27/07/2003 01:12:42
Yep, new is good.  Wonder how Larry will work in the 3d it'll inevitably be :/ polygonal women just aren't as nice..
Title: Re:Larry 8 without Al!!!
Post by: on Sun 27/07/2003 01:26:15
Sierra released a 3D animated Larry 8 pre-production trailer thingie a few years back I believe. Google would know where it is. It didn't look too bad. No women in it though, just Larry. Looked quite good.
Title: Re:Larry 8 without Al!!!
Post by: rodekill on Sun 27/07/2003 02:08:10
It really stinks when the creator of a character gets shoved aside by the company that 'owns' the property.
At least guys like Steve Purcell protect themselves from this corporate madness.
Title: Re:Larry 8 without Al!!!
Post by: Trapezoid on Sun 27/07/2003 02:15:01
It's often because the creator doesn't want to continue with that property. That was the case with Ron Gilbert, I dunno about Al Lowe though.
Title: Re:Larry 8 without Al!!!
Post by: on Sun 27/07/2003 03:10:15
The 3d demo you are talking about was actually made when Al was still doing Larry. It was cancelled though when Sierra was sold and everyone was fired. Actually, Al has said many times that he would jump at the chance to make another Larry game if he was offered.
Title: Re:Larry 8 without Al!!!
Post by: AGA on Sun 27/07/2003 06:36:06
Get the trailer from www.allowe.com
Title: Re:Larry 8 without Al!!!
Post by: Dmitri on Sun 27/07/2003 08:22:33
All Lowe also said there'd never be a Larry 4... so they scripted the plot, trashed it and rehashed Larry 1 then they went straight to Larry 5

That info comes from the back of a Larry Anthology box
Title: Re:Larry 8 without Al!!!
Post by: Las Naranjas on Sun 27/07/2003 09:00:19
Larry 4 was also attempted multiplayer, which they couldn't get to work.

But No. 8? That represents alots of what Sierra did wrong. Too much Franchising.
Title: Re:Larry 8 without Al!!!
Post by: Leisuresuitpim on Sun 27/07/2003 12:40:22
I loved larry(not him but the game :P)
I think AL lowe should be involved in this project. He invented it >:(
Title: Re:Larry 8 without Al!!!
Post by: on Sun 27/07/2003 12:46:41
That's not strictly true is it? What about the Softporn textadventure?
Title: Re:Larry 8 without Al!!!
Post by: DGMacphee on Sun 27/07/2003 12:51:33
Aye, Larry was just a rehashed Softporn.
Title: Re:Larry 8 without Al!!!
Post by: Pumaman on Sun 27/07/2003 16:16:38
I'm just worried that this thing will turn out like KQ8. I wish Sierra would just drop the franchise now and don't ruin it like they did to KQ.
Title: Re:Larry 8 without Al!!!
Post by: AGA on Sun 27/07/2003 16:28:52
Have you played Softporn Adventure? The going to a bar and trying to score is where the similarity ends.
Title: Re:Larry 8 without Al!!!
Post by: Las Naranjas on Sun 27/07/2003 22:32:09
several of the puzzles were lifted. But it was elaborated on to some extent. Actually having a player character being the most important.
Title: Re:Larry 8 without Al!!!
Post by: LL Notorious B.I.G. Will C-H on Sun 27/07/2003 22:48:11
ive just downloaded lsl5, i`d forgotten how crap it is. nice animations and everything but the mofo walking deads! my god!
i used to love lsl2 when i was about 13, but i think that was because it was the closest i got to actually chatting up girls at that time :)
(now i am the mack daddy of course)
Title: Re:Larry 8 without Al!!!
Post by: Esseb on Mon 28/07/2003 00:04:45
As Las said AGA, many of the puzzles and locations were lifted. Yes I've played it to the finish. I was just being picky mind you :).
Title: Re:Larry 8 without Al!!!
Post by: Nostradamus on Mon 28/07/2003 08:44:21
I would love to see a new Larry game. Larry 7 was grat. One of the funniest games I've ever played. But without Al Lowe it would be crap. It's his creation. Why don't they want him in the project?
Title: Re:Larry 8 without Al!!!
Post by: on Tue 29/07/2003 03:01:38
Actually the reason kq8 turned out to be crap is because Roberta was not given complete control over the game. Ken William's explains a lot about it on his site www.sierragamers.com. If Al was given control over Larry than it would most likely not be like Kq8.
Title: Re:Larry 8 without Al!!!
Post by: Las Naranjas on Tue 29/07/2003 06:50:27
I think KQ 8 also suffered in the smae way as 7. It was just too old.
6 was saved by the lack of influence Williams had, who, despite being a pioneer, isn't a particularily good designer and is a dreadful storyteller.
Title: Re:Larry 8 without Al!!!
Post by: MrColossal on Tue 29/07/2003 09:02:06
Quote from: blastbeat on Tue 29/07/2003 03:01:38
Actually the reason kq8 turned out to be crap is because Roberta was not given complete control over the game. Ken William's explains a lot about it on his site www.sierragamers.com. If Al was given control over Larry than it would most likely not be like Kq8.

hehe cause roberta and ken's games were amazingly written and wonderfly scripted.

granted one must appreciate the history of the game and the pioneeringnessocity of it all but when over 90% of the game is a direct retelling of fairytales, story books, and mythology... it was kinda hard for me to even find where the 5000 years of history ended and the Williams' began
Title: Re:Larry 8 without Al!!!
Post by: Las Naranjas on Tue 29/07/2003 09:21:24
They contributed the walking deads, duh.
Title: Re:Larry 8 without Al!!!
Post by: rodekill on Tue 29/07/2003 23:40:40
And Roberta had Scott sneak in all those raunchy sex scenes when Ken wasn't looking.
Title: Re:Larry 8 without Al!!!
Post by: on Mon 20/10/2003 05:00:04
http://www.computergamesonline.com/images/cgm/157cover.jpg
Title: Re:Larry 8 without Al!!!
Post by: remixor on Mon 20/10/2003 05:11:03
Quote from: blastbeat on Mon 20/10/2003 05:00:04
http://www.computergamesonline.com/images/cgm/157cover.jpg

I must say, that is extremely surprising.
Title: Re:Larry 8 without Al!!!
Post by: Timosity on Mon 20/10/2003 06:14:00
As much as I love the LSL series, especially 1-3 cause that's where Al Lowe intended it to be finished and completely wrapped up the series

That is another reason they skipped 4, as well as the trying to get the multi-player thing happening, begining again from 5 left it open to start another trilogy. I think all the info is on the website mentioned (allowe.com)

I don't like the idea of an 8 without Al, and I wouldn't want to force him to get involved either, it would be completely up to him if he wanted to and I still think would be a bad idea.

And for Sierra to make an 8 without him is quite rude, It's just a company that bought an already famous name, to make it easier for them to sell retarded products, Now they want to use an already legendary product that has enough sequels, And make some more dirty money (they could just sell crack, I'm sure there's even more dirty money there)

Somehow I think this is a really lazy company, what have they done since they stole the company, Half-Life, that's all I've heard about.

Hooray for fuckin capitalism, fucks everyone over, even the people that have the money, what can they do with all the spare cash, invest it, to get more, what's the point, you still die, then what's it good for, Ooh that's right, fucking up the next generation etc.
Title: Re:Larry 8 without Al!!!
Post by: rodekill on Mon 20/10/2003 07:48:56
I am very interested in seeing Larry trying to get laid in college. The amount of potential there is insane. Jocks and frat boys and the obligatory prude dean of the school + a young Larry = Whee!

However, my faith in Sierra is less than zero, so I'll just make up the game in my head.

...

::)(teehee!)
Title: Re:Larry 8 without Al!!!
Post by: remixor on Mon 20/10/2003 08:21:28
http://www.computergamesonline.com/cgm/200312-m1.html

Now that is interesting... "GTA with less violence and more sex"?
Title: Re:Larry 8 without Al!!!
Post by: Haddas on Mon 20/10/2003 13:56:47
I would never buy a LSL game without Al being involved. It's just not... LSL!

But IF they make Larry ONE STEP closer to looking like an cartoon, then I'm not buying. He just keeps getting shorter, and his nose keeps getting loonger, and his eyes keep getting bigger. Damnit!
Title: Re:Larry 8 without Al!!!
Post by: Anym on Mon 20/10/2003 17:02:50
Am I the only one for whom those links to cgm.com don't seem to work?

Also, how could you "win" in a prequel? Isn't Larry supposed to be a virgin at the beginning of LSL1?
Title: Re:Larry 8 without Al!!!
Post by: MrColossal on Tue 21/10/2003 00:23:01
"As to the many emails I've received stating, "They can't do this to you" and "It's your character" etc. I'd like to say this: my contract with Sierra was for "work for hire" and all rights to the characters and stories I created remained the property of Sierra. They have the right to do with those characters as they wish."

thanks Al...
Title: Re:Larry 8 without Al!!!
Post by: rodekill on Tue 21/10/2003 00:46:57
Well, in all honesty, there's nothing he can do.
Seems like he's accepted it.
Title: Re:Larry 8 without Al!!!
Post by: remixor on Tue 21/10/2003 02:25:06
For those who want to see the image, CGM changed the link address to stop the traffic they were getting, but I got ahold of the new one also.   I can post the new one if you guys want, but it would be easier just to go to http://www.adventuregamers.com/ and check out the news update from their front page.  They downloaded a copy yesterday and uploaded it to their own server.