Louise Abbema

dbuske · Tue 26/07/2011 14:11:06

I have started a new documentary.
It is about the woman artist Louise Abbema. 1853-1927
It shouldn't take too long, because I don't have to do the interface and all that.
I already have all that set up from other documentaries I have done.

http://www.mediafire.com/?mzs773bn5gfctdi
Here is the link to the finished Documentary

ddq · Tue 26/07/2011 14:18:16

Hi dbuske! If you have two screenshots of your game, you should start a thread in the Games In Production forum rather than General Discussion, following these guidelines. If you don't yet have two in-game screenshots to show, you should wait until you do before posting, and then post in the GIP forum. Thanks for your interest in AGS for making your documentaries.

Atelier · Tue 26/07/2011 14:36:55

You're a stubborn bugger aren't you. This is beyond a joke THIS BOARD IS NOT FOR ANNOUNCING YOUR GAMES.

GO HERE TO ANNOUNCE YOUR GAMES WITH TWO SCREENSHOTS

YOU NEVER NEED TO POST IN THIS BOARD IF YOU'RE MAKING A GAME

I'm not a mod but you're really starting to piss me off. And another thing stop making your posts in fucking enjambement.

WHAM · Tue 26/07/2011 14:44:06

This is getting ridiculous.
Also: I learned a new word in this thread! Never heard of enjambement before!

Phemar · Tue 26/07/2011 18:53:29

Quote from: Atelier on Tue 26/07/2011 14:36:55
Stop being an idiot.

+1

Matti · Tue 26/07/2011 18:55:42

You all seem to have forgotten the story behind this.

dbuske already announced quite a few games in the GIP and CGA threads. I guess since nobody replied to the last one he doesn't want to start those threads anymore. Also, due to all the forum nazis here, he left the AGS scene only to come back two weeks later. As for Dumbledore and Grindelwald, the last thread was already the second one.

With the incredible amount of info and the superpolished graphics in addition to the extra-nice attitude and genuine consideration of what other people have to say I wonder why so few people give feedback or even play the games?

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LimpingFish · Tue 26/07/2011 19:56:41

General Discussion has a lack of moderators, which is probably why dbuske has decided to start posting here instead of in GiP.

cat · Tue 26/07/2011 20:08:28

Can we force dbuske to play all Icey games and vice versa?

arj0n · Tue 26/07/2011 20:13:24

Quote from: cat on Tue 26/07/2011 20:08:28
Can we force dbuske to play all Icey games and vice versa?

*grin*

Guybrush Nosehair · Tue 26/07/2011 20:31:37

Quote from: cat on Tue 26/07/2011 20:08:28
Can we force dbuske to play all Icey games and vice versa?

I've actually got a conspiracy theory that dbuske and Icey are one and the same. Contact the president, some shit's going down!

WHAM · Tue 26/07/2011 20:33:53

Quote from: cat on Tue 26/07/2011 20:08:28
Can we force dbuske to play all Icey games and vice versa?

This would be awesome, though I think the Geneva convention has something on torture...

Guybrush Nosehair · Wed 27/07/2011 03:08:26

Quote from: grim107 on Tue 26/07/2011 20:31:37
Quote from: cat on Tue 26/07/2011 20:08:28
Can we force dbuske to play all Icey games and vice versa?

I've actually got a conspiracy theory that dbuske and Icey are one and the same. Contact the president, some shit's going down!

And here's another theory. dbuske and icey are actually both video game geniuses, and we're all just too dumb to understand there awesomeness... Of course if we're using this theory in conjunction with my initial theory, we're all just too dumb to understand dbicey's awesomeness...

Wait, now I'm just getting confused.

Bror_Jon · Wed 27/07/2011 06:21:21

Quote from: grim107 on Wed 27/07/2011 03:08:26
And here's another theory. dbuske and icey are actually both video game geniuses, and we're all just too dumb to understand there awesomeness...

YOU ARE ONE OF THEM!!!

Bailey · Wed 27/07/2011 09:01:42

:o i think some people need to chill out and not take forums so seriously! And whats wrong with enjambement?! Although isnt that end stopping and not realllly enjambement?

LUniqueDan · Wed 27/07/2011 09:08:48

Come on guys, please cut Dbuske some slack.

He is serious at making documentaries. He's just taking time to understand the Forum way-of-life and some of our [maybe too] high standards.

@dbuske : when a fellow AGSer tell you about : download links, folder stuff or furum rules : please listen humbly to their advices. Most of them cumulates many years of AGSing.

WHAM · Wed 27/07/2011 09:15:00

The standards are not too high, and they are clearly stated when you join the forums and your understanding of them is confirmed upon joihin. Failures to follow the standards and rules will lead to negative feedback from those forumites who take the time and effort to comply.

Bror_Jon · Wed 27/07/2011 10:04:28

Quote from: WHAM on Wed 27/07/2011 09:15:00
...and effort to comply.

It's not really an effort though, is it?

All you have to do is to use common sense and when unsure, look it up in the forum rules.
That is not an effort for being allowed to be in this awesome forum.

Spoiler

An effort would be to merry Babar, bare his first born, then sale it to Snake all in the time of a week, just to comply to the forum rules.

[close]

Stupot · Wed 27/07/2011 10:29:59

In dbuske's defence he is making short documentaries, not games, so why should he put them in the Games in Production forum? Especially since whenever he has posted in the correct forum he has been flamed for not providing screenshots (which to be fair he should have learned by now).

Quote from: Bailey on Wed 27/07/2011 09:01:42
:o i think some people need to chill out and not take forums so seriously!

Threads like this come around once in a while, and they probably always make the AGS forums look like a place full of rules, regulations and uptight pedantic bastards, but that's really not the case at all. We just want to encourage people to use their goddam noggin before they post.

Welcome to AGS Mr. Bailey. You have been warned

monkey0506 · Wed 27/07/2011 10:36:46

Slack has been cut.

Sauce

MOAR Sauce

SOME MOAR

YUM! SAUCE!!

SAUCE Mk. 5

(etc.)

And in spite of that...

...this...

...and this...

...and this too...

...comprise what we get in return.

I understand that people want the forums to be a friendly place. I appreciate that fully, because I feel the same way. But how long do we have to bash our heads through the sheetrock before we're allowed a sarcastic post? I've asked this before rather recently and got no responses, so I won't expect too much.

The fact is, this is not an isolated case with dbuske. Help has been offered, ignored, and spat back in our faces. I can appreciate that this guy wants to make games. That's something I'm very passionate about. I spend somewhere between 75 and 98372047583145428.5% of my free time on game-related programming ventures. Right now I have several projects in-the-works involving AGScript modules, technical demos, AGS-related utilities (written in AGS), a couple actual game projects that I'm working on, making some revisions to the AGS Editor in direct relation to a tool I am programming in the form of an editor plugin, and I'm taking a serious look into the engine code to work on cleaning it up and refactoring it into a more manageable state. I have a lot going on right now in my programming ventures, but it's what I love doing. So yeah, I get that part, that this guy (not unlike certain others around here) is so passionate about making games that he will sacrifice whatever it takes (including quality and their own reputation) in order to ensure that the games are produced. I get that.

But there comes a point at which if what you're passionate about isn't reigned in, it can become more than a simple annoyance, and can actually become a rather grievous burden. Particularly, in this example, technical help has been requested. Several people have tried to oblige as best they can, and somehow this has lead to certain other members being openly assaulted by the person who was asking for help to begin with. This not only leads to issues between those kind helpers and the person with whom the conflict arose, but it can actually put a strain on the person's willingness or demeanor in dealing with other people. I'm speaking from my own personal experience.

I am all for welcoming those who are willing to abide by the forum rules and pay basic respect and dignity to the rest of us here by observing some common etiquette of such a forum, but things such as the present situation have to be taken with a sense of context. If a significant number of people are apparently being overly curt (or blatantly rude) with a particular member, there's a good chance that there's an underlying cause that you may not know about. If you are aware of the full context of the scenario and still want to voice an opinion, it is after all an open forum. And, as humans, we are fallible (and not to mention very keen to mob-logic and hive-mindedness).

So, in short, what I'm saying is 1) try to get the big picture before you go reprimanding people, and 2) if you do feel the need, try and make sure you actually have an argument. It's no fun arguing with people who stop responding because they realized they didn't have enough information to make a stand on the issue.

Khris · Wed 27/07/2011 13:05:02

Quote from: +monkE3y_05_06+ on Wed 27/07/2011 10:36:46I understand that people want the forums to be a friendly place. I appreciate that fully, because I feel the same way. But how long do we have to bash our heads through the sheetrock before we're allowed a sarcastic post?

I'd say there are clearly posts that warrant immediate sarcasm. Especially if the person already has a history of being an obtuse jerk. I'm aware though that it's usually not exactly the ideal method of conveying the underlying intention (make the person reflect upon themselves or their actions for a minute).

There's also another problem in this specific case: in the other thread dbuske posted a broken link. When people told him in a perfectly nice and non-confrontational way that the link was in fact broken, dbuske didn't realize that the link only worked for him because he was logged into the hosting site.
Due to how he got treated here in the past (whether deserved or not doesn't matter), instead of further investigating the situation, he jumped to the (wrong!) conclusion that we were intentionally lying about the link being broken.

This is a really unfortunate situation and a similar thing happened in this thread and this one.
In both cases, misunderstandings and/or technical incompetence lead to a situation that to dbuske's mind must have looked like we're intentionally trying to mislead him or brush him off undeservedly.

The important thing though is this: this is entirely dbuske's fault. Imagine any other member opening these threads and they would have taken an entirely different direction from the start.

If threads like those happened all the time with lots of people, that's the time where I would consider changing the attitude of my posts.

As long as there are people who always look for the fault in others first, things like this will happen, and not only is there nothing we can do about it, I'm not willing at all to cut those people more slack than absolutely necessary.