Well I sugest all of you to visit www.mafia-thegame.de
Anyway I love that game and those dozens of mods for it(a few is made by Hungarians!!).
It has a special feeling that Gta dosen't have (but GTA Vice City had a pretty good feelin' too).
Wel what do you think 'bout it
Ps.:I'm currently playin' it(To be more precise I play Alive mod)
I think you're too young to be playing it. :P
Otherwise, I quite liked it. Preferred it to GTA, to be honest.
As far as gangster games go, I like Godfather:Blackhand edition (Wii). I'd say I'd rather play that than GTA most of the time. Its really quite awesome.
I've only played the mafia game a couple of times, it seemed alright.
Meh.. Your average sandbox game. I'd choose GTA over that any day. :P
That game is horrible man, HORRIBLE!
I reviewed that game for a little DIY magazine company we have here, and that game is bad.
Slow cars? Check. Crappy collision detection? Check. Frustrating controls? TRIPLE CHECK!!!! :)
I played it on Xbox, so it might be different. Sounds cool to have mods, but I'd play GTA over it anyday.
i played through Mafia just to complete it, i got hardly any enjoyment out of it at all.
it did have a few neat features though, such as being able to pay a fine to get the cops to stop chasing you, and the cars requiring petrol although i never actually managed to run out of it.
but the story and voice acting were pretty terrible and it just felt like the actors were reading their lines and not actually acting.
i also spotted a possibly copyright violation which i emailed the publishers about but never got a reply, there's a sound clip that's taken from the movie Leon used as an ambient sound in some areas of the game near buildings (it's the part of the movie where Matilda's dad is shouting at her about smoking and tells her to get inside and do her homework outside of their apartment), it's slightly muffled but highly recognisable.
the final mission was infuriatingly difficult too, that coupled with the really crap ending earned it a "bleh" on my rating scale, it would have got a "hmm" perhaps if all the playing areas had been one, but then there wasn't much to do in free roam anyway.
Mafia?
The game?
How can I say no to that?
Quote from: Mr Flibble on Tue 12/06/2007 23:58:10
Mafia?
The game?
How can I say no to that?
And after playing:
Quote from: Mr Flibble
Forget everything I said about mafia, because this changes everything.
I wouldn't say that this game is anywhere near "awful", though it has its flaws and some weird bugs.
I've played through three times and quite liked what I played. It's a bit too limited, linear and difficult. But it isn't a bad game and offers nice change to GTA. Also, it doesn't have this maniac humor GTA characters have. Like main character being a really nice guy and smiling and wasting 600 people in very gory way while being supposedly sympathetic and humorous.
This is dark fun, but a bit too sick for my taste. Luckily, Mafia didn't have this sick twist, the characters were serious from the start to the end.
I hope GTA 4 will lose this crap also, and what I read from reviews, there's slight chance for it to be so.
Mafia is quite average game with nice story and great atmosphere. Well, and horrible gameplay. Then again, GTA:SA PC controls weren't much easier. And difficulty neither (flying school, eeek!)
I seriously can't say similar for Godfather (for PC), which actually is the worst GTA clone ever.
Man I hated this game! I usually hate most of direct console ports, but this is best worst example of how NOT to port a game. Aren't games made on PC first anyway? Cars without transparent windshields... in 2006 game... omfg.
I only played The Godfather on PSP but if it was an indication of the overall quality of the series, than that was enough for me. Truly awful.
As to slow cars in Mafia, well...more realistic, imo.
I haven't enjoyed a GTA game since Vice City, on PS2. San Andreas left me cold, as did the two PSP installments.
Mafia is a good game, the plot isn't juvenile like the GTAs, it has some well designed levels, the Freeride Extreme mode offer a lot of fun, challenging and original missions and it catches the feel of the 30s very well, even if there are a few things that are out of place, like turbo cars and the like.
But it's an extremely linear game where you simply chain one mission after the other until the game is done because the sandbox mode offer very little to do other than driving, kill gangsters/cops and taxi fares and as soon you are out of ammo/health you must drive 7 minutes, often more, to reach a weapon shop/hospital since that's the only way to refill those.
In my book the GTAs remain the best, with Vice City at the top of the list with its great atmosphere, great soundtrack, lot of freedom and lot of things to do. Plus it has this subtle little thing, also present in the MI games, that make it so you don't know anything about Vice City until you watch Scarface and Miami Vice up 'til half of the third seasons, because it is to those what Spaceballs is to Star Wars and scifi movies.
QuoteAlso, it doesn't have this maniac humor GTA characters have. Like main character being a really nice guy and smiling and wasting 600 people in very gory way while being symphatetic and supposedly humorous.
I somehow prefer playing a nice and smiling guy while wasting 600 people in a very gory way, than play a very serious character who confess, in a serious tone, his crimes to a cop while these crimes include several hundreds, if not thousand, of roadkills and pedestrians killed in cold blood, and expect a lighter sentence. It would be like a Hitman game where 47 gets remorses for accidentaly killing an innocent, while the player could stabs every bodyguards, cops and civilians in the face during the previous mission. I somehow prefer protagonist with blank personality in sandbox games, this way the main character may be a maniac, but at least, it's a consistent maniac. ;)
Mafia. PS2 version. Crap.
The buildings looked like carboard cut outs, maybe they watched Dick Tracy for inspiration. The
AI was mind reading, the enemies would KNOW where you are all the time and shoot you precisely the moment you move from cover, like as if they had x-ray vision. The loading times were one of worse I've endured in a ps2 game. (Another game would be Commandos 2)
There you are, driving a car which is in a mission where you must not damage it, under a time limit, and you drive over a bridge. The road is clear of any cars, so you go fairly fast. The game goes to a loading screen to load up the next part of the city. Five minutes later the game loads up and your car is still travelling at the same speed, except a car has been spawned right in front of you which is impossible to avoid. CRASH! MISSION FAILED!!! Fantastic.
As for the personality of a character in GTA. In GTA3 they gave him no character, but when in a cutscene someone shouts at him, he doesn't ever say anything. But an inaction is an action too! It looks like he has no back spine. So I don't see how you can make someone have the character of the player unless the player has 100% output in the actions of the character. I presume Rockstar didnt think it worked, or people asked for a person with personality.
Quote from: R4L on Tue 12/06/2007 23:02:46
That game is horrible man, HORRIBLE!
I reviewed that game for a little DIY magazine company we have here, and that game is bad.
Slow cars? Check. Crappy collision detection? Check. Frustrating controls? TRIPLE CHECK!!!! :)
I played it on Xbox, so it might be different. Sounds cool to have mods, but I'd play GTA over it anyday.
Slow cars coz the game placed in the 1930s You YOU YOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!!!!
Oh an MM as far as i know there is only PC an XBOX version of th game.
And finally th game came out in 2002 and just match th Gfx with Harry Potter 2s Gfx!!
I love mafia! The game where everyone gets dealt a card and that determines what type of character you are, and then you have to figure out who's the mafia? Oh, it's not the same game? Meh... I don't wanna play it. :)
Mafia is a biog breakthrough in game development industries, it was probably the best game in its time. While GTA is just a bunch of graphics whooped together into some city, Mafia actually has some well thought gameplay and a great storyline. GTA is just boring.
Actually the game is readily available on PS2, XBox, and PC, although the PS2 and XBox versions (ported two years after Mafia's initial PC debut) are generally considered to be inferior.
Thankyou, LimpingFish.
Wtcq: For the record, I manage a videogame store. I should think I know what I'm talking about. :)
I have Mafia for the XBox. Bought it used, played it for a few hours, returned it back to my games shelf and haven't touched it since.
If i can remember correctly, there was a free roam mode or something like that. All i did was look around and explore. Even on the XBox, the graphics didn't look that great.
I tried a few missions and realized i wasn't having much fun. I would give it a 5 out of 10. Sorry. ;)
I got Mafia for the PC in 2004 or so. I hadn't played any of the GTAs, so I had nothing to compare it to. I enjoyed it, actually. I enjoyed the characters and the storyline was excellent. Driving around the city was never fun, but the individual missions were great.
Quote from: BOYD1981 on Tue 12/06/2007 23:28:45
and the cars requiring petrol although i never actually managed to run out of it.
You didn't ran out of it coz you only played missons and until now haven't ran out 'o it too
but after replaying the "You Lucky Bastard" misson I realized you can. I was driving back
to Salieri's Bar when I noticed a flashing red light at the bottom of the speed meter
then in front of the bar th car stopped an Tommy sad: "Damn I ran outta gas".
After this I tried Freeride and rean out of it several times but since Freeride is a crap
without mod I sownlaoded alive mod and it is the best it offers you millions of things to do and its only 5 megs!!(in Alive mod you can even see UFO and call repair trucks if you ran outta gas!!!!!!!!!!!)
Mafia (PC) is one of the best games I've ever played. What made it stand out was of course the realistic city, good graphics, free-roaming, but most of all the story. They even had a real film director to direct the cutscenes. Apparently the console version (that came a lot later) was a lot crappier. The PC version was great, though. And the soundtrack for the game is probably one of the best soundtracks ever for a game.
Coincidentally, when Godfather came out (2006), a lot of comparisons were made, and what surprised many was that the graphics in Mafia (2002) are actually quite a lot better than those of Godfather:
Mafia:
(http://www.mafia-game.com/scrshots/release14.jpg)
Godfather:
(http://www.trustedreviews.com/images/article/inline/2540-one.jpg)
That's 4 years of progress for you. But what made the difference wasn't even the graphics. Mafia had class, atmosphere and an actual story, and a good one at that. You could walk down the streets and actually feel like you're in 1930's Chicago. Godfather has nothing on that with it's repetitive and simplified story, premise and gameplay.
So to sum up, Mafia good, Godfather bad. On-topic: Yes, I remember Mafia and I loved it back in the day.
I was rather surprised reading all the nagative stories here. Hoewever checking gamerankings:
Mafia Xbox 68.2%
Mafia PC 89.8%
Mafia PlayStation 2 67.4%
you people played probably played the wrong version. :P Driving may have been slow, but it had a more realistic feel to it. Most people probably just didn't have the patience for that. In my eyes, it's indeed the more serious equivalent to GTA. Shooting may have been done pretty badly, I'll admit, but I loved the storyline and it had a great ending.
Quote from: InCreator on Wed 13/06/2007 00:23:17
Mafia is quite average game with nice story and great atmosphere. Well, and horrible gameplay. Then again, GTA:SA PC controls weren't much easier. And difficulty neither (flying school, eeek!)
I seriously can't say similar for Godfather (for PC), which actually is the worst GTA clone ever.
Man I hated this game! I usually hate most of direct console ports, but this is best worst example of how NOT to port a game. Aren't games made on PC first anyway? Cars without transparent windshields... in 2006 game... omfg.
The godfather wasn't that good, I wouldn't even call it free roaming, since it's walls built around roads (The driver complex) instead of roads built around actual buildings. However, if I look at city interaction it is a step ahead of gta, there wasn't a street which didn't have a business to take over. Though unlike gta it didn't invite you to just drive/fly around for fun, it was a lot of fun taking businesses over. And that didn't get repitive too quickly. It was quite clear they took a lot of inspiration from Mafia, though atmosphere was way better in Mafia. (Whilst typing this I see Ildu's new post and agrree mostly btw. I type too slow)
And GTA pc controls were hard, but the flying school was easy. We'll talk again when you try to get all gold in the driving school. (I did play the playstation 2 version and used a gamepad on my pc, but it could be controlled with 2 hands on the keyboard)
Godfather? Bleh. I bought it, because I enjoyed Mafia and heard it was along the same lines. Technically, I suppose it was better, but it got pretty boring very fast. The major problem I had with it was that all the missions looked the same, and the driving was a chore. The cars might have been slow in Mafia, but at least you could drive off the roads. :) The driving in Godfather was limited to very rigid paths, and you often had to go waayyy out of your way in order to reach your destination. I suppose it's because they based it on real NYC geography, which is not very fun to drive in.
The one cool thing about Godfather was that I got to drive up to my address and go "Hey! That's my building!"
Godfather probably has nothing that Mafia doesn't have, and there are many years between... Doesn't that say that Godfather is just a ripoff with no progress at all? Yes it does, case solved.
WRONG. Godfather doesn't have:
* Superior sountrack (the music in Godfather was much duller and didn't create that good atmosphere). Plus, Mafia features some very brave attempts at stepping on game music standards, like chinatown track for example? Find me a game with similar music! But with also as catchy one!
* Acceptable graphics. Scroll up to two screenshots and see yourself. Godfather looks like C64 game screencaptured to low quality JPG images and then ported to NES. Sure, Mafia geometry had less polygons. But just play and see how well they are used!
* Original solutions. Not neccessarily the best ones, but original. Damage handling on cars in Mafia? It's so cool! I can wreck cars with bare hands, and like in real life, this could take a furious half-hour. One mission, I remember, got alot easier when you shot a tire off from enemy car. <shao kahn voice> "Originality!"
* Pace control. In Mafia, tiresome driving around city offered sometimes nice break from furious shooting action. In other times, it was even more dangerous, because player attempted to drive faster and in case of a police chase, whole mission could be blown.
* Variety! Conquering things in Godfather took hell of a lot of time, retries, bullets, and body bags. IMO, too much. But that's a matter of taste.
* Ability to skip intros and cutscenes, plus this horrid intro/mainmenu music tune that went really old after 150th time!
Conclusion? Godfather is horrible attempt to reap cash from exploiting Mafia, GTA-like games' popularity and the movie(s) of same name. And its actually worse than any of named.
Quote from: Dave Gilbert on Fri 15/06/2007 13:45:03
The major problem I had with it was that all the missions looked the same, and the driving was a chore. The cars might have been slow in Mafia, but at least you could drive off the roads. :) The driving in Godfather was limited to very rigid paths, and you often had to go waayyy out of your way in order to reach your destination. I suppose it's because they based it on real NYC geography, which is not very fun to drive in.
They removed the driving sections from the PSP version. In fact, they removed the whole walking the streets vibe completely.
You simply went from mission to mission, in little squared-off areas of the city.
Brings new meaning to the word "Dull".
I'll say it again, Godfather on the Wii is an excellent game that deals with all of the critiques you guys have mentioned. Its well worth a play imo.