Making a psi-ball; a thread about the supernatural

[MrColossal]

That gives us a little over 2 weeks to find a cure for you!

[vertigoaddict]

When I was a child about 4 years old, I'd get dreams and sometimes, I believe I have premonitions; but in a small scale...

Before I had correct view, everything was blurry and I saw this fast foward blurry video-like thing; after that I got my first visual memory (I was lying on the floor at the time holding a rubber snake). Now that I lived most of my life, some of those blurry images look familiar; a jade poster in my old school, helping the maid make the bed, etc.

I had a dream that I was having a test and I looked at my paper, all the answers were there (although the whole dream was kinda blurry). The next day I had a test (I passed it, this was me at 4)

I also had a dream I was singing in this black room with an audience. I didn't remember this dream until I actually performed in the school's singing contest; it was in the drama room and the walls were painted black ( I sung very well, I was the only person who's name was chanted before and after my peformance...sadly I sang a song which did not require me to dance, so I didn't win cause I didn't do much action - the students think otherwise, the person who won, only won cause she took an audience into the stage! Her voice wasn't even that strong, plus alot of people don't like her cause she's bossy. NB. I'm just pointing out what others had said, truthfully the girl was my friend so I couldn't really feel bad about it)

nowadays my dreams are either freaky or abstract, well, more like freaky cause it's abstract. I just woke up from a dream about me and a teacher, we were looking for this woman. My teacher happened to have psycic powers ion this dream with food or cookies (I don't know why, I'm just describing my dream) and there was this part where she made the image of the woman with cookie dough and I had to kiss it for some reason (that was disgusting...) and then she ate it, somewhere along he way we met with an old malay guy with no pupils in a wooden hut who said stuff lke "they are comming" in malay...

wierd, what did that mean?

In my country's superstitious religion, we believe that baby's are able to see demons. My sister saw them more than once as a child and my mum had to purify her (rituals and all) in fact everyone in the family experienced it at least once or in a small scale... my sister was the only one really bothered by them (she'd often end up in tears). My mom performed a ritual to me too, cause of insomnia (apparently I'm in the dreams field and the demons disturb me there)

I think in some cases psychic powers work according to age and deterioates and may work again by some conditions. Maybe it works according to belief?

I think I'll try this psi ball thing....but I'm kinda scared to...

Albert einstine said that the human uses about 14% of their brain and he use about 10. A few people believe that if you are able to use more brain activity, you can do stuff like telekenisis. Maybe this whole psi ball thing is one of the methods to practise your minds so you'll be able to use more...?

[MrColossal]

vertigo addict:

http://faculty.washington.edu/chudler/tenper.html

we use all of our brain.

"Maybe it works according to belief?" This is more true than you know. If you believe in something you will accept all sorts of dumb things. If you strongly believe in psychics you will never question why supposed psychics are constantly getting things wrong and making false predictions. If you believe in demons you'll accept that children can see them even though a child having nightmares is as common as a dirt.

Record yourself doing your psi-ball training or whatever. Please. If you ever create one I want to see it on film. It would be amazing.

[arthur.com]

ask him to make a psiball in front of you.

I'l ask i'm.
But i once tried to make a picture and it failed.
The psi ball (and his concentration) dis appiered.

I can describe what he was doing. ( from my view)


1. He was kinde freed. not moving.
2. he started to shake his arms like if he was shaking something off.
3.He put his ands in front of his face ( like this  ( !@@! ) )
4.He looked like he was lifting an elephant
5.Face turned red.

And there was a little  flashing of a that-ball-thingie-that-moves-your-computers-cursor sized light.
The light very dark. You could consider it bright in a pitch black cave.

[space boy]

arthur, if you wanna test your friends abilities properly you should read this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_method

you should also look for these names on google and youtube: james randi, michael shermer, penn and teller.

And like I said, first find out whether psychic powers exist at all before trying to move an object with your mind. otherwise you'll just be wasting valuable time staring at stuff. your friend might not be consciously lying to you but he might be deluding himself. You shouldn't jump to conclusions after seeing a random spark. If it turns out that psychic powers do not exist you'll have to deal with it as dissapointing as it might be to you. And honestly, if psychic powers were real we would stop calling them "paranormal" a long time ago. And don't get me started on conspiracy theories and "THEY don't want you to find out!". Don't hold on to a belief just because it's comforting. You might just aswell keep believing in santa claus. Besides there's enough awesome stuff in the universe which makes you go "wow!" and which is REAL. You don't have to make up silly stuff to make nature fascinating.

[MillsJROSS]

You've lost so much of MrColossal's respect.

I'd honestly like to believe in things like psi balls, but the unicorn told me they didn't exist.

-MillsJROSS

[MoodyBlues]

At first I thought "psi-balls" were balls of psychic energy that you hurled at your opponents.  What a disappointment.

Edit:  Oh, wait, I misread something.  I guess they could be used offensively, supposedly.

[evenwolf]

I love threads like these which get into arguments of the scientific method and the existence of the paranormal..  and all  the while the title of the thread includes the verbage usage "to mank."


James Randi's project alpha should be recreated for today's audiences.

[vict0r]

I love threads like these which get into arguments of the scientific method and the existence of the paranormal..  and all  the while the title of the thread includes the verbage usage "to mank."


James Randi's project alpha should be recreated for today's audiences.

Indeed! I'd love it if he chose to debunk Chris Angel! I hate that guy.. He is a poor magician who use cheap effects to get rich and famous. And some people actually think it's real magic.
David Blaine is awesome tho. That's the real deal. Street magic/illusions.

[LUniqueDan]

Everybody knows that Randi was cheating his testings. It was so easy for him to use his own magical abilities, like Houdini did before him, to hide the thruth.

It's like every time I'm creating Psy-balls. They get stole even before I    was able to watch it. The Engine says.  Must be a bug somewhere inside 'Player enters room before fadein'

:p

[space boy]

James Randi's project alpha should be recreated for today's audiences.

I'm pretty sure if someone made something like project alpha again the hype, lack of scepticism and shock after revealing the hoax would be just as big as back then. That's because of media sensationalism and the moronism of the general public. Voices of reason would be ignored as limited human rationalism that is not able to grasp "what's out there".  : Not much has changed during 25 years, but that's exactly the reason remaking project alpha is an excelent idea.

[evenwolf]

David Blain and Chris Angel make no claim to be supernatural, so far as I've noticed.  If David Blaine said "I'm the second coming of Christ"  i think Randi would take notice.

Randi doesn't have issues with illusionists being illusionists. That's how he became famous.

[Vince Twelve]

I love that half of Chris Angel's magic tricks have the same secret:

Chris: Ok, now, we've never met before, right?

Blatently-planted audience member: *crosses fingers* Right.

[arthur.com]

about Chriss Angel...i wached 'chriss angel puts lady in half''
That one i really cant figure out.

[space boy]

Hmm.... paid audience and editing?

[arthur.com]

Hmm.... paid audience and editing?

Could be.....         ...

[vict0r]

Indeed!

[Helm]

Hmm.... paid audience and editing?

Could be.....         ...

nononono please insist it's something considerably outlandish and extravagant so Occam can cry more.

[Ali]

The irony with illusions is that the real solution is often far more outlandish and difficult to comprehend than saying "he's just magic". Expositors often say that scientists have trouble seeing through the techniques of sham paranormalists. I think that's part of the reason.

That's all part of the misdirection though. If you apply Occams razer stringently it's often easy to start picking apart an illusion. Presume that the magician/psychic can achieve the feat they're attempting and look for anything they do that they wouldn't need to do were that the case.

Hmm.... paid audience and editing?

There's more than one way to bisect a lady.

[Sam.]

Alot of people say that it is a midget carrying an amputee, which I suppose is possible.

Arthur. Psiballs are impossible. Any kind of telekenesis isnt real. Grow up.