well, have u listened to this new metallica song? i think it was released yesterday or today (or maybe before that)...
What do u think? will the old days come back? (btw, i don't think so)
New song?! Old days style? I really have to hear that!
Edit: WTF! I can't recognize any of the songs on Kazaa! "Invisible Kid"? ""Frantic"? HAS THE NEW ALBUM LEAKED OUT?
I dont think that they'll go back to what they were, although i've heard that its a bit heavier than their load stuff.
well I sure hope that is true aushor
I was a huge metallica fan a while ago, but it jibbered away a bit - I still love the music though
I hope the new album rox just like Master of Puppets and And justice for all
Well I actually always much preferred the 'new Metallica', unlike almost everyone who listens to them. I like their more melodic side, stuff like 'The Unforgiven II', 'Nothing Else Matters', and the kind of middling-heavy stuff, 'Whiskey In The Jar', 'Fuel', 'Enter Sandman' and stuff. Apart from a few songs, the earlier thrashy stuff doesn't do a lot for me...so for me, a Metallica return to the roots is probably more a bad thing. Although I always appreciate their kickass guitar solos, hats off to that Kirk dude, he is a damn fine player.
first: Metalica rock
second: There last best album is black (S&M rocks but it dont count)
third: ST. anger has no guitar solos in the entire CD(and i hear you can bearly hear the guitars when they are playing)
ERGO: new album can be as heavy as it likes, but this album will suck.
final thoughts: if metalica dont go back to the good old days of black, ride the lightnig and reload they will loss a lot of fans
good old days of reload??? that was their last original album. Although it wasnt that bad, it certinley didnt compare to puppets and black. I like their heavier stuff better, but i do love black.
Have heard some 30 seconds of teaser off St.Anger. Will post an oppinion when the album's out.
If they make a good album, I will eat my hat. Of course, I won't know anything about their new album since I'm not gonna buy it. Why? Because their albums have a long 13 year sucking tradition. Ride The Lightning rules, and everything they made since 1990 (including the Black Album) is crap.
Well, my favourite is Ride the Lightning, but I do appreciate most of the 'older' songs. Heck, my favourite one is Unforgiven II.
The new album is called st anger and the single (is that how u call it?) or teaser is called the same.
Where i live (in Argentina), there's one radio that passes every 2 hours or so, and not illegally, they received the single from the company (universal?)
The guy who presented the song for the first time said that a couple of hours before he, it was released in the US.
so probably u can download it from Kazaa.
The song is heavier than load and reload but it has nothing to do with ride the lightning or master of puppets... it's nice... that's the word. Nice song, but not for metallica.
Ah, and i think it's also possible to download "frantic" (another song from the new album), which was recorded live from Mtv Icon
(u can also download "Fuel" performed by avril lavigne, hahahaha. (it's true, i'm not kidding)
sorry to post again, but they have just showed the st. Anger (the song) video on MTV...
After hearing both St. Anger and Frantic, I am very disappointed. Can this be the first Metallica album I won't own?
i really liked metallica back when i was a kid, it's been one of my favorite bands ever.
but seriously... some people don't seem to understand when it's time to quit. i honestly doubt they're just doing it for the music.
i know this issue is old and over-discussed, but just because they wrote excellent albums in the past doesn't exempt them from having to prove their worth again, just like any other band... and i don't want to judge the whole album before i hear it, but i'm highly sceptical
I may be one of the few people who really thinks that Metallica sounds more vicious than in a long time...(As you can see, my Avatar has already been influenced by the record...) I've listened to the soundclips on www.metallica.com, and the only thing that sounds bad to me is the sound of the drums. But otherwise, it sounds better than both Load and Re-Load. Appearantly they will have more progessive elements in the songs as well, which pleases me - Being a lover of "...And Justice For All"... ;D
Still - I doubt they will ever return to the "good ole' days". But they might be going a small step in the right direction, though...
If you want to have a listen, check out the St. Anger Player here. (http://metallica.com/stanger/stanger.asp)
Quote from: Rincewind on Fri 30/05/2003 10:52:24
listened to the soundclips on www.metallica.com, and the only thing that sounds bad to me is the sound of the drums.
That is quite a big thing, as we all remember how much Ulrich added to the earlier albums.
Yeah, I suppose that is true. It sounds more like he's beating on some oil-barrels, instead of that fat, thrashy, drumbeat we're used to...
Yeah, I don't know what Lars was thinking but he took a large metal snare and tuned it like you would a picallo. Which if it is a large wood snare doesn't sound all that bad but when it is metal you get a horrible ring that I think he somehow thinks is cool...Maybe his drum tech convinced him of it I dunno.
Anyways if they are trying to sound like there older metal days then it is pretty sad because all they are saying is metal is nothing but fast double bass rolls and ANGER!!! Which is incorporated a great deal into metal but is not what makes metal, metal.
Rincewind, it isn't a fact of intensinty and aggression alone. Fuel is a pretty intense song but it doesn't change the fact that it has song structure that has been used Five hundred thousand times. As well brings nothing interesting, new, innovative, creative, interesting to the floor. It is just GIMME FUEL GIMME FIRE GIMME THOU WHICH I DESIRE RAAAH! These new songs in style are much like the older days but music goes a lot deeper then just what is on the surface. The structure, the attitude, the message and the deeper signifigance of the song in a current artistic and cultural way are thhhpt in metallicas effort. Times when they would write music about horrible war crimes, self reflection when you are screwed up or those confusing feelings when you hit THE BOTTOM! Are replaced with blind shots of anger at nobody, Fast cars and just general empty hallow music.
It is what seperates an abstract painting from an amazing work of art and just splatters of paint on a canvas...It is the deeper emotion inside and behind it that makes or breaks it.
Though I admit I have not heard the full cd yet so it is wrong of me to say it is good or bad yet but what I have heard has left me none too impressed.
You know, I can stomach most of Metallica's music. But when I heard "St. Anger" on the radio the other day...I could barely stand it. It was horrible. Like others have said, it sounds like they're beating on oil barrels and I just can't get into it. I can get into most of their songs, but not this one.
I liked a lot of Metallica's songs before this new stuff, partly because I'm a guitarist and I quite appreciated their technical ability and capacity to cook up some nice solos. But now that seems to have gone out the window and besides that their new sound is not pleasing to my ear. It really grates to hear what they have done to their sound now...I won't be touching that album.
I never liked matallica a whole lot, thought I liked the Dave Mustane songs (he's with Megadeth now,obviously). I allways thought the singer ( James Hetfeild, I think..) was a horrible singer.
Well I saw the second half live show of the live show on MTV yesterday (and intend to catch the first on a rerun), and enjoyed it.
The songs, even the older ones, really do not sound as good as they used to to. But, fuck me, it's still Metallica, and it's still Ulrich, and it's still One, and it's still Puppets, and it still sounds well. Very very well, in fact. My only two real points of criticism is that Hammet's lead guitar sounded much too high at times, and that Hetfield's vocal performance was way below average.
My friend got the albim when it came out. He thinks that its cool, but i guess he is a bit tryhard. I'll borrow it off him and see if i like it.
I downloaded some songs, and I do not like what I hear. Will give more comments when I hear them all.
By the way, there's a short instumental in the new ablum (Invisible Kid).
oooh
I love instrumental music
I don't really think the new CD is anything like their old stuff, like "ride the lightning", "For whom the bell tolls", or "One". But if you want my personal opinion... I didn't like it (granted I haven't had time to listen to the entire CD) I kinda thought the first song was a little too repetetive... kinda like that song by Kiss... "I wanna rock n' roll all night, and party every day" <repeat>
Quote from: N3TGraph on Tue 10/06/2003 14:41:17
oooh
I love instrumental music
Don't set high hopes. It's very short,
nowhere near Call of the Ktulu.
Edit: I think I heard all now (or almost now). I am afraid that St. Anger is the best piece from that album.
:'( :'( :'(
Yeah, I wasn't too impressed either with St. Anger. Heh, and to think how much they hyped it up to be there best album yet.
I tried giving it a chance twice, and I still don't really like it that much. They've said that they are going back to their roots, but to me it really doesn't sound like their old stuff...there was no kick-ass guitar and totally kick-ass solo, it stunk.
Any of you listen to Eddy Trunk? Heard of him on the radio?
Anyway, he plays a lot of old metal and last weekend he played St. Anger for the first time. Before he expressed his views on it, he wanted to hear what the listeners thought, so he took calls. I guess the operators took 20 calls and Eddy asked what the results were. Out of the twenty callers, none of them liked it. One of the callers was even an album producer and he hated it, he thought it shouldn't even had been recorded, lol.
In any case, I don't hate the song, I just don't like it. Who knows, it might grow on me after a long time, but I doubt it :)
--Snake