I know it's a bit early to be asking, but are there any plans for next years Mittens? So far we've been to Britain, Sweden, New York and Greece. Alright. So what about the Midwest?
I'm not just saying this because I live in the Midwest and it's a cheap way for me to attend, but I also say it because it is quite a unique place to visit and the area I am in is a rather popular tourist area.
There are 2-3 pristine camping areas within an hour of the metropolitan area (one is actually only 20 minutes.) There is tons to do in the cities, and the camping spots are clean and fun. The one camping site even has many caves to explore!
This is just a suggestion, but I urge everyone to seriously consider it. I will be 18 by then and more than happy to arrange everything!
Yep, just a thought.
I wouldn't mind a mid-west Mittens ...
However, I think Austrailia has been decided? If I remember correctly.
Maybe it has. I dunno. I never read the threads anymore because it just makes me want to go when I know I could never afford it.
The "official" rule is that the location of the next year's Mittens is decided at Mittens. It's kind of like Fight Club in that respect, except it's more like Sex Club.
Uh oh, I think I just broke rule #1...
I thought we were all going to Gilbert's apartment in Hong Kong.
I've already started walking to Gilbert's! See you there!
Yeah, around here there is a LOT of tourist attractions. More then a week of stuff to do. Plus, because we aren't an extreamly popular tourist area outside of the casinos, everything is really cheap.
Wasn't Mittens supposed to be in Australia this year but the only people who could go were the Australians?
I've mentioned it before, we impovershed americans who can't make it out to Greece or England or upstate New York should have an insurgent Amerittans ourselves.
And don't forget that the Mittens in USA rule is still that you have to be at least 18 years old to attend.
Freedom isn't free.
We had it in USA last time, so chances are we're gonna pick some other nations before returning there.
Australia is still a hot candidate, if only the aussies who'd organise it could start announcing it a bit earlier and with more passion!
Last time it was like
May
DG: Hey mates, we could have mittens in australia, right?
Las: Sure, why not.
Laya: Good, we could visit a nice bar I know of and drink beer together.
June
Las: So are we gonna host mittens or not?
DG: I dunno. It'd sure be swell.
Laya: Yeah, we could drink beer.
July
DG: So, mates, is it mittens australia or mittens USA this summer?
Las: Not sure. Seems like USA.
Laya: Yeah. Well, I'm going for a beer anyway.
Next year, I demand a full-time working comittee, mortally dedicated and with only one goal in their minds; to make mittens australia happen! Then I would consider spending 1500 $ on a ticket.
Quote from: Andail on Wed 06/07/2005 18:29:36Next year, I demand a full-time working comittee, mortally dedicated and with only one goal in their minds; to make mittens australia happen! Then I would consider spending 1500 $ on a ticket./quote]
How much does a ticket usually cost (USD)? I'm only 17, but I would like to attend next year...If I can get the funds.
Yay, Mittens Australia! Ah, the Aussie AGS army is growing!
I'm as you all know either a nOOb or a newb, but i'd probably be going....i think....
speaking of Australia, OH YEAH NEW SOUTH WON STATE OF ORIGIN XXV!
Well, I wouldn't say no to hosting an Amerimittens. I WILL be 18 by then, Andail.
Quote from: Anarcho on Wed 06/07/2005 17:44:24
I've mentioned it before, we impovershed americans who can't make it out to Greece or England or upstate New York should have an insurgent Amerittans ourselves.
Yeah, why not have a simultaneous Mittens in the US?
The mid-west sounds good. Or you could go a little further south... say, Texas? :)
Well, I'd say the midwest would be most fair, as it is in the middle. Iowa isn't quite the middle, but it's the most popular area of the Midwest (Chicago, St. Louis, Milwaukee) all within 3 hours from here.
Nebraska would be the middle, but who the hell wants to go there?
isn't nebraska incredibly cold?
Hey! I'm from Nebraska! Bite me!
Quote from: Flukeblakeisn't nebraska incredibly cold?
no
Vince I was just joshin'. I know Nebraska is perfect for when you want, well.. When you want .. Oh crap, I can't think of an insult.
;)
We tend to not have simulateous Mittens gatherings, because then it would diminish the essence in several points
>key members, such as CJ would have to decide to which one he should spend his well earned money to just meet up with some goat society
>they're hosting it for a reason. Yeah, its hard to get to australia, but they didnt have an ausmittens when we had our Mittens 2005 in america.
>brittens, is well, brittens. it happens at a different time. so if you were to have an amerimittens, you could hold it at a different time, but I would say no to a simulatneous, but hey, life goes on if we end up having it at the same time, but the point is to go see a distant land or your own backyard and enjoy it with some new people.
Just because the olympics wont be in NY in 2012, we're not going to pull out and say, nah, we'll have our own olympics, and we'll call it the XGames, cause its like X better than the olympics, and we'll have kickass sports and not that "somehow hypnotizing" curling sport. ;)
We did test the water for this years Mittens IMMEDIETLY after last years Mittens, so there was a very very very long period for prospective candidates to give some indication they were coming. Just indication that epople other than AGA would buy a plane ticket and it could have gone ahead, but there was by far not enough reaction by the time we reintroduced it later on.
Mittens Australia won't happen unless the rest of you give some reason for it to be organised. If it's organised on vague promises of that's cool, most of the people who said they would come would soft cock out of it anyway.
Yes scumm, by Amerimittens I meant like Brittens.
And just out of curiosity, if Australia is out of the picture... What other countries are (prospectivally) left to visit? :-p
If it's Germany, I'd really try to get my ass over there.
I was just playing too, lgm. Perhaps I should have inserted a wink of my own. ;) Nebraska is boring. I wouldn't recommend it for Mittens unless you're looking for... you're looking for... aww crap...
i suppose the reason australia is definitely out is because it's too far away from everyone? damn.
I think the reason we haven't had an Amerritens or whatever one would call is, is because the immense effort it would take to organize it. Brittens works so well because Britain is a smaller country and it's less of a hassle for people to gather at some location. I'm not saying people don't go out of their way, but the United States is around forty times larger than Britain. I think the wisest thing to do, would be to split up into different regions. Anyone would have free range to go to a particular one, in case you really wanted to meet a particular member. But I think the point in an American get together, apart from Mittens, is to not spend a lot of money. It's more for those who can't afford to go the a Mittens event, or for those who can afford both. And if we looked at the AGS map, when it was up, there are plenty of people in the U.S. to go around. I know we wouldn't get to meet everyone, but I think this would yield more people showing up, and really if you want to meet everyone go to Mittens (at least you'll meet people from around the globe). How we'd split up the regions is really up to those willing to host.
-MillsJROSS
I always thought about having a Mittenstoberfest in Munich. What do you guys think? 8)
Quote from: [lgm] on Thu 07/07/2005 00:37:55
Well, I wouldn't say no to hosting an Amerimittens. I WILL be 18 by then, Andail.
Why was that age-thing aimed at me?
Oh, and Amerittens (or whatever) sounds like a good idea, nothing prevents you from seing eachother as much as you fancy. I just meant that the official "Mittens" meeting might want to visit other nations before going to america again.
The main reason why I'd like to see mittens australia is that it seems to be the only opportunity to meet DG and Las.
Well some of those suggested holland. In a hostel... near a coffee shop...
And beer...
Lots of beer.
...And coffee..........?
And Holland! I'll be 18 by then, so you're probably raising the limit to 19?
Holland and Germany both sound like good options to me. :)
But seeing as I live in Holland, that's a bit biased...
It would be convienient if it was in the MidWest, like Illinois or somethnig, because it's pretty nice out there, and there's a lot of great places to go to and all that.
QuoteYou have to be at least 18 to attend.
Grrr...just three more years until I can go. Three more years...arg...
Quote from: Webspider on Thu 07/07/2005 15:28:09"...like Illinois or somethnig, because it's pretty nice out there, and there's a lot of great places to go to and all that.
That statement could apply to absolutely any place imaginable.
I agree, Holland and Germany do sound good as I believe the majority of AGSers are European.
Australia is also another good idea but the prices of flights are astronomical and I doubt most people would want to pay for just a week.
As for America I think this is out of te question, as will be Britain, Greece and Sweden. I think global travel and jet-setting is a far better idea (Different place every year).
Hong Kong could be interesting but if Gil is the only HK member he would have to organise the whole thing.
Other countries / areas to explore : Carribean; I know a company that organises flights and everything so we could spend the week sailing the Carribean like real pirates. - http://www.tallships.org/
Tier did this for a couple of days in the Irish Sea, said it was good.
Another possibility could be Spain, Israel, Japan, Finland etc...
Best to see what is discussed in Greece and were people want to go, although usually someone there will say "I'll host it" but I'm not sure if any new countries are being represented this year.
Germany, please!
Well, if we were to split the US into regions, I'd think a Mid-Atlantic region would be in order. If I had a house, I'd offer it up as a meeting place (I live in DC) but alas I have a one bedroom apartment. Still, DC would be a good place to meet up, no?
Setting up a national Amerittens would be a serious undertaking and I don't know about many of you, but I've got a job and can't take a week off (though I might be getting laid off, so unemployment here I come) but a long weekend would be doable.
I guess people usually go the camping route because it's cheapest. There are a lot of camp grounds in the DC metro area...one is actually on this cool island just outside of the city.
Would there be many people that could make it to DC for a three or four day regional meeting? I would seriously consider volunteering to put something together if A) there were enough people to make it worth the trouble and B) we could plan for a date that would leave me enough time to make the plans and get time off work.
Quote from: magintz on Thu 07/07/2005 19:36:52
Hong Kong could be interesting but if Gil is the only HK member he would have to organise the whole thing.
Well, I've been residing in Hong Kong for the last couple of years now and as far as my plans go, I'll be staying here for a long time to come.Ã, Ã, Hong Kong is an exciting place and lots of stuff to see and do with such a mix of cultures as well.Ã, You could meet my Sifu (Martial Art Teacher) and I here and do Tai-Chi in the park with us, or if you're feeling brave come take a Jujitsu lesson from me as wellÃ, ;) .Ã, Also, my Sifu was a professional Tour-Guide for over 30 years, so if we knew a group was coming in, we could probably arrange a nice little sight-seeing kinda tour.
My apartment is rather tiny, (most prison cells would probably be larger), as are most apartments in Hong Kong, so I can't really offer to put anyone up (tough if someone was really desperate, parhaps I could throw out a foam-matress on the floor for someone to sleep on) , so, you would have to arrange to stay at a hotel or somesuch, or if I knew people were really interested in coming here, my Sifu and I could perhaps look into helping people booking a resonably priced hotel for anyone coming or we could find out more information in that regards. Also, Hong Kong can be a bit expensive, but, if you are budget minded and careful with your spending, you could still have a great time.Ã, There are lots of "street markets" to browse around and shop at too if you're looking to pick up things for a cheaper price (souvenirs and such).
Well, I just throw the idea out there for you to consider. Myself, I'm a bit tight on the budget now, so I can't much afford to travel any where outside Hong Kong for now, so it would be wonderful to see some of you come here.Ã, Ã, But hey, even if there is never a "Mittens" meeting in Hong Kong, if any AGSer happens to be passing through Hong Kong way sometime, you could always feel welcome to PM me a message and let me know you're coming and we could arrange to meet and hang-out for some fun.
Best wishes.
Quote from: Webspider on Thu 07/07/2005 15:28:09
You have to be at least 18 to attend
damn. better start work on my time machine :=
My parents would probably never allow it, but I have a fairly large yard...well, enough for the people who live within range to camp out on (4.5 acres), and I think it would be fun to have a little Tex-iteens...may have to work on that name though...
*Potential host for Texas Amerimittens*
But then I don't know how many people are from Texas (or possibly east Louisiana...o_0). I don't think it's that many is it??? *we need a members map...-_-*
I think anywhere in euope would be good... I'd like somewhere on the spainish coast. Or holland, or germany or any western european country. Perhaps we should look for the country with the cheapest beer and hold it there.
...because beer is the point?
Haha! Brittens was very boozy this year, the number of alcoholics has certainly increased since last time :P
As mentioned though, Mittens is decided at Mittens. If you can make a Mittens you can pitch a destination suggestion and we usually decide there and then if it's good or not. That way, we can avoid lots of squabbling over where its held...
Of course you can hold your own mini Mittens in any location whatsoever, but don't be surprised if not so many people attend. As said, people like CJ would probably only choose to go to one, and that is usually the main event. I was amazed though that 17 people turned up to Brittens!!!
It was once the intention that Mittens was a cross-engine gathering, not just AGSers. Someone asked me about that at Brittens, and I wondered - would it be cool to try that again, or host some kind of seperate event? There would be some room for great discussions there I think.
m0ds...if I can see you dress up in that bear costume and do the dance like your avatar...I'd listen to anything you have to say. I do of course mean, seeing it in person.
But yeah, the cross-engine idea could be cool. Kind of like a big game dev con. In the woods*. With tents.
*Based on Brittens pictures 2005. Probably not always the case.
Adventure X? :p
would be nice to meet some 'outsiders' but i don't know if id want to spend a week etc with someone i haven't really met on the forums.. i dunno
maybe 1 or 2 days for discussions and people to show stuff off we might miss out on normally
Aye, AdventureX is probably still the best option - I'll try and get that organised for Autumn/Christmas time. A couple of days would be fine, you're right it might get a bit strenueous* (sp) if its a week long.
And as for YOU monkey 05 06 07 08 0 999, I dance for no man! But a beat box in some kind of American suburb... :P Brittens wasn't in a wood, but a Mittens/Brittens/Whateverittens would be COOL in a forest! Only problem then is sanitation (sp, again)
*crap
Quote from: m0ds on Fri 08/07/2005 14:36:20
Mittens/Brittens/Whateverittens would be COOL in a forest! Only problem then is sanitation
Don't worry, we can employ AGA with a pooper scoop to take care of that.
I think we're going to have to talk and chit-chat a lot more in Adventure Developers and Adventure Gamers Underground in order to bring more non-AGS folks into the picture.
I'd still say Mittenstoberfest! But uh, not like I can see myself being able to go to it! :P
Hey.. I live in a suburb.. And I have friends who can beatbox... IT ALL FITS TOGETHER, M0DSH!
After Mittens, I was considering suggesting a few days meetup at Niagra Falls for the Midwest/Ontario/New York folks. There are plenty of AGSers from each of those regions, and I'd dare Dart to slap me with a trout in real life :D. I'm determined to get a Niagra meetup going before next summer. Does this sound neato? C'mon Arasan, DragonRose, Dart, Eric, BT, (I know there's more).
Why not just the upper penninsula of Michigan? There's LOTS of forests and campout spots there. Plus it's beautiful.
I'd be too afraid that NIagra would be a tourist deathtrap.
Amerittens will simply be held wherever someone is willing and able to host. Locations really arent important, unless two people are close enough to merge into one region. It's too late, at least for me, to organize anything this summer, and we have a year to decide where these regions might be. I think the emphasis of these events should be a low cost sort of week. As far as I'm concerned, I'm not going to go anywhere I can't drive to in a day. As for any guidlines, naturally, one would expect that these things be hosted by established members (in general a member we can trust). The age limit could change according to the host. But generally, I honestly think the age limit is a good idea just purely on a liability standpoint. We can nail out details as the year goes on. The only trouble with getting down specific hosts this early in the year is that while someone might volunteer to be a host in a year some unforseeable change in their life might prevent them from being one.
As for Mittens being held in different countries each year, I don't think this is feesible. The places selected for Mittens were chosen because there is a strong membership base in that country, and I think one of the major goals is getting more people to come, so while if we go to Hong Kong we might get new attendees, we might not get nearly the amount we had the last years (I'm not saying this is the case, for all I know Hong Kong is a ripe location for Mittens). After so long, it's only natural to come full circle back into other countries already selected. That and it must be hell on CJ's wallet to do this every year.
-MillsJROSS
Come to Ireland!
We have lots and lots of trees...and...green...things...
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On second thoughts...
I hereby express my liking for the Holland scheme, and I'm sure Mozesh would too.