I make this to say I'm sorry for my stupid behaviour. I apologise in sincerity. I respect the members
opinions much and I admit I'm not very smart, infact i'm known for being a bit on the slow side between
my friends. Please accept my apology. I got irritated at Jozef's comment which i still think is
completely unfair. Though that is my problem. I like making AGS games and even more playing AGS games
and have enjoyed some great games in recent times. I feel embarresed at my outbreak and I was wrong on
everything i said.
I'd like to apologise to Grundislav, SSH, MrColossal (especially - like your games), Nikolas, Squinky, Snarky, Helm, pablo, ishmael
and the other members I offended. As well as the general community that finds me idiotic and childish.
I was.
I don't know anything about what's going on here so don't take my commands seriously (those directed
towards older members). I have come here to make games and play games, and that's all. I act to quickly
in stupid little things which doesn't really even exist.
Please don't see anything into what i have said: I don't think I'm a particulary great artist I have
never implied that I should win any contest, i'm new to making adventure games so I don't know what I'm
talking about. Eveything said about my game is most likely true and i will try hard to improve. I have
great respect for all the great artists here and I am learning constantly from them as I am such a
newbie (yes, please call me noob, as that is what I deserve).
So please don't hate me, I'm not very smart, thus I'll stop posting opinions, I will accept anything
said to me (even if it's Jozef himself). Everyone has an opinion and mostly that opinion will be
smarter than mine.
So please forget my recent stupidy and let me enjoy these forums and the company here as I have
recently. I have met some great people here and some exceptionally nice ones.
I will refrain from posting too much in the future from embarressment and I change my avatar to what it
is now so people can remember how silly and stupid I was and possibly am.
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I am making a Ben Jordan Fangame and hope i haven't offended anyone, hopefully I can use the fangame so
people can tell me if I have improved and how I can improve even more so i may make better games for
myself.
Grundislav, I again apologise to you. and to CJ since I'm causing disturbance in his community.
You're not an idiot, you just got a little overzealous defending your game, which is perfectly understandable.
Also, you don't have to believe what anyone says to you to be more valid than your own views. But a little forethought before diving head first into an argument will save you a lot of hassle.
The fact that you've swallowed your pride, and brought an end to this, shows you to be a decent sort, and I'm glad you've decided to stick around.
Now, let us never speak of it again. ;)
yes never ;) thanks.
You can't be afraid to express your opinions man!
I read the whole thread in question and I don't think you're an idiot. You just took deep offence and I can understand that. I'd probably have reacted the same way myself.
I'm not saying it was the right way to go about things, nor do i think this guy should be reviewing AGS games like they're on the shelves with a pricetag. I wouldn't dare tell someone what i really think of their game, I'd just give them constructive critiscm instead.
You've still got a friend here Bulought, and I'm sure squinky etc will forgive you or get over it whatever.
Like I said in our PM discussion, it would have been considerate if you had asked me before doing a Ben Jordan remake, and I think it would show improvement and give you more "credibility" or "acceptance" in the community if you released your own game, but at this point, I'll just wish you luck and say that I'm intrigued to see what you've done.
You really do have talent, and I expect to see awesome stuff from you.
josef should be apologing!
*off to make a ben jordan remake* ofcourse, i first have to finish my chris quest remake.
I have been target of your ultra deffensive posture, but remember the final? Friends. :)
You are not an idiot. People here has been 1000% more offensive than you and haven't even attempt to apology. You are just a little bit too enthusiastic and deffensive toward your stuff, but that's my opinion. Some people will think that this is good.
So, I am sure that the involved people will accept private apologies. There's no need to make an official humiliation IMO. Take care and go on with the good work.
:) thanks.
I will make many more (and am working on) original games, but first i need a lesson in interface and a I think I want to give you with a fangame for your awesome serious hereby hopefully improving.
Hey, apology accepted for my part. Actually, you had no need to apologize to me. I wasn't offended. As I said, I think your posts were damaging only to you. Hope you don't take anything anything I said personally, either. No hard feelings, eh?
I don't think you were being stupid, either. But maybe there's something a bit like stupidity when it comes to emotions, which causes people to overreact? None of us are perfect.
Anyway, a public mea culpa with attendant self-flagellation does wonders to restore your image, you'll see. I don't think anyone will hold a grudge or make it difficult or awkward for you to continue to participate in the forums here, if you were worried about that.
Looking forward to the Ben Jordan fan game! Might tide us over while we're waiting for BJ5 (*meaningful look at Grundislav*).
Quote from: buloght on Mon 27/02/2006 23:05:23
I think I want to give you with a fangame for your awesome serious hereby hopefully improving.
Huh?
sorry, i meant the BJ series.
Hey!
I have already told you that I don't get offended through the internet that easy. I'm of course known for being a little hot blooded at some threads (while debating with Helm... anyway...), but still it is very difficult to get offended by someone you don't really know.
You know that you don't need to apologise to me, and you know how much I value our connection.
Now get back to do what you do best (and much much much much much much better than me): AGS Games.
And please, do keep posting.
We do need some drama in the forums from time to time (I'm joking.... I would n't want you to take it personally. lol) ;D
Aww buloght :( *big hugs!*
It's okay, noone cares! We all still love you. Heck, I agree with you too, you just got a bit wound up about it, which has NEVER happened to me on ANY subject EVER on these forums, let's all be sure of that fact right there.
*ahem*
Don't worry about it dude ^_^
Buloght, your art is really the best art I've seen on AGS.
I only read a little bit of the argument, but, anyway, that's my opinion. Keep up the good work-you're a good artist.
I know what you were upset about, too-the whole game was extremely easy for me. No pixel-hunting here.
And I got really super mad on my critic's lounge thread too, x_X so I know how you feel.
But whatever-let's get to work on more games and forget about this.
Quote from: Grapefruitologist on Tue 28/02/2006 00:11:28
Buloght, your art is really the best art I've seen on AGS.
IMO, this sort of things are the ones that cause conflict. There is a group of 5, 10 AGS artist who are the olympus. (I am reluctant, because I could miss one, but I think that, as an EXAMPLE I could mention Helm, Eric, Loominous, DanClarke, Miez, Prog, Big Brother, 2ma2, Ignac (which has his nickname?) Notice I am quoting the graphic artists) Note that most of them are professional.
And after this we have the good ones. IMO InCreator, Sektor13, Kinoko, Andail, Darth Mandarb, Grundislav, BULOGHT, maybe me... this grup is huge, allow me not to mention all of them... maybe they are 50 or 100!
Well... Having a group of accollites that follow Buloght's work despiking the efforts of the others, may make him look "antipathetic", and the worst of this is that he hasn't really claimed for that recognision.
Maybe I am the only on and I am severelly goofing here, but I want to help... and I got to admitt that I really feel bad when I see LJUBI's (and some other people) total submission to an artist which is not the best. Envy? you could think that, but I think we could be talking of envy if that recognision was given to people in the "olympus", but when someone who is not clearly "the best" is constatly being refered as so, I just feel it's unfair.
Hope to help. And if I am wrong and that only happens to me, sorry for the goofe.
I agree Farlander, and I'm sure buloght would too (and thankyou for mentioning me!! o_o)... but let's not make an issue out of that too. Best thing to do is just make a comment to LJUBI or whoever does it when they do it and leave it be.
Dude don't go too far with the self-flagellation. I don't need your apology, I wasn't insulted in any way. You called jozef an idiot and that's the only thing I believe warrants an apology. You did go too far with your complaint, and it grew wearisome but now you seem to understand this, so I don't see what's left to say. Good. Onwards.
Hey where'd that lil guys cute smile go to? (Buloghts avatar)
You did nothing to offend me at all. We had different opinions and they were discussed. I am only upset at pesty for mocking my dearest departed dead non-smelly mother.
Oh yeah.
Your bloody avatar gave me a huge fright when I saw it. It was like... IT!
mmm, lewks good maybe a lil adjustment here n there...
(http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/5057/buloghtnothapvb27kw.gif)
edit: hehe what does it remind you of know Kinoko ;)
I agree, the only person who you really insulted was Jozef.
As for me, I just hope you stop thinking that new people are for some reason hated by people who have been here longer. If anything it's the other way around! The people who have been here longer usually don't make any games and just sit around taking up all the spaces on the couch and scratching themselves... Places.
It's the new people who make games. Now... Make games.
Quote from: MrColossal on Tue 28/02/2006 01:34:58
The people who have been here longer usually don't make any games and just sit around taking up all the spaces on the couch and scratching themselves... Places.
Are you talking about me?
I'm angry now and I order you to take that back! >:(
:= Just kidding of course, sometimes it's good to accept critics from people (if the critics are reasonable they help you improve, even if they're not reasonable, they may give you good opportunities to think about why people would think about it), everyone can have his own opinions, whether they're good to you or not, they're actually all helping you.
QuoteI could mention Helm, Eric, Loominous, DanClarke, Miez, Prog, Big Brother, 2ma2, Ignac (which has his nickname?) Notice I am quoting the graphic artists) Note that most of them are professional.
Wait, when did I enter this secret society of whackos? And who said I wanted in? ;D
The best advice anyone can ever give you is this, buloght: Don't let people who buff up your games and skills constantly affect your ego, because once that happens, forever a slave to the dark side you will become...Remember what you have learned, save you it can!...Buloght...Bulogghht......There....is another...beer...in..the...friiiiiddgggee...
Hah! I predicited on #ags yesterday that you'd be kicking yourself soon, buloght. I'm glad I was right, because it shows that you've got the balls to admit when you are wrong. I hope that you make more games and enter more coding contests! Make a remake of the classic Ghostbusters C64 game with Ben Jordan and Percival Q Jones in it...
Anyway, now all you need to do is confess to being Mordalles's alter ego and that your real name is Jean Fourie...
Quote from: SSH on Tue 28/02/2006 09:26:53
Anyway, now all you need to do is confess to being Mordalles's alter ego and that your real name isÃ, Jean Fourie...
you know, I always suspected that there is something fishy going on with these two/one/split personality creature...
Do you have any proof of what you're saying mr. Hero? Let us have it!
Nay buloght, you're allright.
And you make good stuff.
Quote from: Nikolas on Tue 28/02/2006 10:19:48
Quote from: SSH on Tue 28/02/2006 09:26:53
Anyway, now all you need to do is confess to being Mordalles's alter ego and that your real name isÃ, Jean Fourie...
you know, I always suspected that there is something fishy going on with these two/one/split personality creature...
Do you have any proof of what you're saying mr. Hero? Let us have it!
By that rule of three, SSH and you are the same person. I am quite sure that Andrew puts him a big plastic nose and disguises the two girls to publish photos with another nickname. Come one, prove I am wrong!!!!1111!!!!one!
Quote from: Farlander on Tue 28/02/2006 10:46:34
By that rule of three, SSH and you are the same person. I am quite sure that Andrew puts him a big plastic nose and disguises the two girls to publish photos with another nickname. Come one, prove I am wrong!!!!1111!!!!one!
That's a total lie!
Nikolas (oopps), I mean me, does not have a big nose!
Hey, buloght, I have no idea what's going on but it can't be that bad so that you should apologise in front of the whole forum(I'm not saying it's wrong). But that's just me in my whole noobiness. I hope you are forgiven...
Quote from: SSH on Tue 28/02/2006 09:26:53
Anyway, now all you need to do is confess to being Mordalles's alter ego
that means i must be working on atleast 6 games at the moment? just so you guys know, we both are from south africa, and we both are from the university of stellenbosch and i do know him personally.Ã, ;)
Quote from: ProgZmax on Tue 28/02/2006 02:22:02
QuoteI could mention Helm, Eric, Loominous, DanClarke, Miez, Prog, Big Brother, 2ma2, Ignac (which has his nickname?)
loominous is way above anybody else mentioned here, and then i'll place bigbrother and danclarke next (although i don't know ignac nor 2ma2 nor miez), and then the rest. sorry progz and eric and helm,.Ã, Ã, :o now i've gone and done it.
hmm. . . although, it would be nice to be a MAGS winnner. hmm. and maybe i should say i do all his sprites for him. 8)
I think lots of people on AGS make a common mistake of thinking art can be "good" or "bad", when really, it is neither "good" nor "bad", only "popular" or "unpopular". There are the few whose opinions differ greatly, depending on whether they personally like it or not.
I suppose I'm one of those people, who think of "good" artwork as being "regular", and "regular" artwork as being "good". I just like buloght's style, personally, it's the best I've seen in adventure games.
But I like the picture that guy did on MS Paint (in the thread below), but I think Picasso's art looks like random scribbles.
I think this depends on how we look at it-some people see the overall picture, some people judge it on the feeling you get from looking at it, some people judge it on how realistic it is, some on how surrealistic it is, some on how original it is, some on how artistic or colorful it is...
Lots of different ways. That's why we all have different tastes.
I seem to have completely opposite opinions in art than most people on here. (Errr, no offense, buloght, your art really IS good.)
Ok, better stop rambling now and try to improve my OWN artwork... xD
Quote from: MrColossal on Tue 28/02/2006 01:34:58
The people who have been here longer usually don't make any games and just sit around taking up all the spaces on the couch and scratching themselves... Places.
Yeah, what's up with that? As an outsider, I've noticed that the people who seem to be the most popular and respected on these forums (and in the community in general) aren't necessarily the ones who have made the best games.
Well, being a good artist or popular doesn't mean that you hacve to be productive also. Productivity takes creativity and imaination at a very specific area, and maybe not all people can do that...
Quote from: The Inquisitive StrangerYeah, what's up with that? As an outsider, I've noticed that the people who seem to be the most popular and respected on these forums (and in the community in general) aren't necessarily the ones who have made the best games.
Not a big mystery. There's much respect for those who make great games. But the ones who are very socially active here are not always the same people. The forum is very much a social beast, not always and completely about the AGS games that are produced. Those who are charismatic are popular, like in any other internet community.
That's because that people who make great games are too busy making them to be lazy and chat, heh.
Speaking of which, I really ought to stop chatting and get to work on my game if I ever want to finish it... heh
I'm not popular here and I haven't made any great games...
Don't worry about being popular on an internet forum too much. I think this place is mostly about having fun, so go have some! \'3'/
HAVING FUN?!!
I'm in the wrong forum completely! I have to go find the "work-a-holics" forum.