Listened to the single 'There There' -- sounds damn cool.
Edit: Just listened to Sail to the Moon -- very beautiful -- I'm definately buying it!
Been itching to get hold of this for ages. Me and my friends managed to grab some advance tickets to see them in Nottingham in August... apparently they sold out in 15 minutes.
There There = :o
Speaking of great bands Deegee, have you heard the new Elbow track yet? It's officially great.
Ooo - I've heard about the new album but haven't heard anything from it!
What's the name of the track?
The track is called Ribcage... they're not releasing it on single, they're just selling it for download on their site (http://www.elbow.co.uk)
I'm really looking forward to Radiohead's newest. I haven't heard a single second of any of the tracks (even whatever was released as a single), so hopefully hearing it all at once on release day will be great.
I was half asleep and I though I heard something on the TV.
Are Liberty X covering a Radiohead track?
Please tell me it was a dream.
Liberty X were on a program called 'Re:Covered', where bands do cover versions of songs that they like - they did a Radiohead song.
But it was just for that program, so you'll never ever hear it again. Ever. Ever.
We hope.
Currently listening to them live on Jools Holland. With this and the tracks from the album i've heard on the radio, it seems like their best work yet. One of the tracks appears to end with the most amazingly glitched out guitar solo ever... it officially wins!
Right on, so i've been listening to this album obsessivly since wednesday. It's downright bloody amazing. Even though Kid A and Amnesiac were perfect albums in their own right, I think this is just a little bit better as it combines the 'Kid Amnesiac' sessions sound with that of OK Computer and The Bends. Sort of a midway point if you will. There isn't a single duff track on the album, but my personal favourites are Sail To The Moon, We Suck Young Blood, There There and Wolf At The Door (it's an ace closing track, but not quite as ace as Life In A Glass House). Thom's lyrics pack the same emotional punch as they always do... the only person that captures the mood of the words and paints them so beautifully on to musical canvas better than him is Guy Garvey from Elbow. The mood of the album is a perfect reflection of the mood of the world in general.
Blah, anyway, BUY THIS ALBUM NOW! IT ARES WIN0R!
Some many things I want to buy this month.
Spirited Away was also released on DVD.
But first, I have to buy Nae a birthday present.
After all, what kind of boyfriend would I be if I didn't get her anything?
Okay, bought HTTT before I bought Nae's pres, but it was worth it.
Stalkey, you're right -- this is a must buy.
Loved Yorke as usual, and especially love O'Brien and Johnny Greenwood when they work their charms.
Favourite tracks: 2+2=5 (Good opener, though not as good as Airbag), Sail to the Moon (Very beautiful and mysterious, like How To Disappear Completely or Pyramid Song), Backdrifts (good beats, like Idioteque), Where I End and You Begin (Has a very Stone Roses-inspired sound, only darker), There There (Obviously), and Wolf at the Door (Stalkey, you're right -- good closer, though I lean towards to The Tourist as a perfect close for an album).
Also, I dig a lot of the subtle Bush/Iraq political references in the album -- Like the title 'Hail to the Thief' (Obviously a reference to George W. Bush at the presidential election) or songs like 2+2=5 (Possible reference to election results) and Sit Down Stand up (The line "We can wipe you out anytime') as examples (There are plenty more).
OK Computer is my fav Radiohead album (in fact one of my favourites period), and HTTT rates just half a notch lower.
Great album, not the greatest, but challenging and emotive nevertheless.
However, I'm guessing their next album will be their biggie (diverting from OK Computer but succeeding twice as much at the same time)
I also guess their next album will establish a new genre and place them, without a doubt, amidst rock-god legends like The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, The Who, Pink Floyd, The Doors, etc
In other words, the album they will be remembered for when decades pass.
However, I have nothing to base that upon except a hunch.
I think your hunch is going to be very, very accurate.
Aye -- although OK Computer is my fav, I'm sick of people who want Radiohead to go back to OK Computer or The Bends territory.
I want them to make an album that blows them away.
And that's where my hunch comes in -- their lucky number 7th album will be the one
However, (to quote Yorke) I might be wrong. ;)
I agree that this new album is terrific, and of course, there's no point in comparing anything to OK Computer because there never will be another OK Computer and hardly an album in the world can even begin to compare to it.
But in response to DGMacPhee:
Quotetheir lucky number 7th album will be the one
Thom Yorke recently said this may be their last LP ( :'(*sniff*) I guess he wants to focus on shorter length EPs because making a thematic statement for a whole LP is hard work or something along those lines. Wish I could remember where I saw the article. Hopefully, he's full of shit.
- Bryan
Quote from: undergroundling on Thu 19/06/2003 16:21:37
But in response to DGMacPhee:
Quotetheir lucky number 7th album will be the one
Thom Yorke recently said this may be their last LP ( :'(*sniff*) I guess he wants to focus on shorter length EPs because making a thematic statement for a whole LP is hard work or something along those lines. Wish I could remember where I saw the article. Hopefully, he's full of shit.
- Bryan
He is full of shit.
He does this so often.
He told fans after Kid A that the band were going back to OK Computer's style.
Then they released Amnesiac, which was a great album but nothing at all like OK Computer.
But that's part of the band's charm -- they continually surprise.
Quote from: DGMacphee on Thu 19/06/2003 15:47:00Also, I dig a lot of the subtle Bush/Iraq political references in the album -- Like the title 'Hail to the Thief' (Obviously a reference to George W. Bush at the presidential election) or songs like 2+2=5 (Possible reference to election results) and Sit Down Stand up (The line "We can wipe you out anytime') as examples (There are plenty more).
i might be wrong, but i think they named the album in reference to some anonymous guy who stole their early unfinished tapes for their new album a while ago. it seemed to piss them off a lot, which is understandable.
and 2+2=5 reminded me of 1984, but it's probably a coincidence.
the album itself is great of course, i don't really have comments right now.
He did say they were going back to OK Computer's style, but Amnesiac wasn't truly a new record, more like outtakes from the Kid A sessions. The next completly new and orginal material was HTTT, which does seem to veer back into OK Computer-esque territory.
But, yeah, he probably is full of shit.
At least, we can hope so.
On the plus side, tickets for the Radiohead show in Massachusetts go on sale Saturday and I am totally getting them :D :D
- Bryan
The fact that the 'outtakes' has some of the best Radiohead material they've ever produced (Pyramid Song, Like Spinning Plates) is a testament to how great they really are.
And speaking of live shows, we got the first five advance tickets to see them in Nottingham. Woo!
Big fan of Radiohead myself, I got 5 or 6 songs from the new album from imesh, altough their cool I think the best Radiohead albums were Pablo Honey and The Bends,
anyway my favorite band at the moment is Kings of Leon, pretty cool stuff :)
Miguel: Go out and buy the album, it's worth the $15!
If I had to rank the Radiohead albums in any order, I guess it would go something like this:
1. OK Computer
2. Hail to the Thief
3. The Bends
4. Amnesiac
5. Kid A
6. Pablo Honey
I dunno...I like Pablo Honey, it's a good album, but in comparison to the rest of their stuff, it lacks a lot of the inventive goodness of their later albums. It's more standard rock fare, but still much more innovative than any other rock album that came out around the same time. OK Computer is untouchable in my mind for its all-around terrific songwriting and for containing perhaps the greatest song ever written, Paranoid Android. Oh yes, it's that good.
- Bryan
Looks like I'll be a lone dissenter on this one. I got HTTT the first day it came out in the States, listened to it many times, and came to the conclusion that it's certainly good, but not great. It sounds pretty much like what I'd expect from an album that combines their older sound with the likes of Kid A and Amnesiac. There's nothing really wrong with that, per se, except that I was hoping for something a bit more surprising. The thing for me is that, while I appreciate that they're using new instruments and electronic mediums and so forth, I don't see that as particularly innovative. There are bands that have been doing that for years now. Radiohead doesn't actually do much in the way of song structure or arrangement that's particularly out of the ordinary (at least, not since OK Computer, which was most definitely exceptionally incredible). Let's be honest; most of their songs are still verse-chorus or in the case of their new albums quite often simply chorus-chorus-chorus-chorus or verse-verse-verse-verse etc. etc., depending on how you want to look at it. This is no slight agains the band; Radiohead is still one of my favorite recording acts today, but I honestly do not believe that albums like HTTT really deserve a lot of the praise it gets for being all that "new" and brilliant. Just because they use drum machines instead of drums in some parts or sythesized things instead of acoustic instruments in other parts doesn't mean they're geniuses.
I'm not trying to put them down or anything, I just think people sometimes get slightly carried away when talking about Radiohead because of their reputation. They still make great music; don't get me wrong. However, I would be EXTREMELEY surprised if HTTT actually becomes Radiohead's greatest legacy over OK Computer. I just can't see why that would be the case. There's nothing wrong with anyone individually enjoying HTTT more, but I think it would be very difficult to prove that as an album or as a work of music it actually did more interesting things or paved the way for more avenues of musical expression that OKC.
I agree that HTTT isn't the most innovative of Radiohead's albums, and I don't think anyone would have the gall to place it above OK Computer in the pantheon of greatness, but personally, I find it a little more likeable than the cold, electronic soundscapes of Kid A/Amnesiac, and I prefer it only slightly over The Bends.
While compared to their other works, HTTT isn't wildly genius, if you compare it to most any other album being released now that is selling as many copies as this one, HTTT is far more innovative than any of the other stuff the record companies are peddling on the radio.
There certainly are more innovative bands out there than Radiohead, but Radiohead has brought innovation and expermentation to the mainstream rock world and has applied their own quirky twist to the pop-rock genre. HTTT may not be genius, but it certainly is pushing the envelope as far as pop music may be concerned.
On a side note, I disagree a bit about the structure of these songs. Since OK Computer, their songs have generally had a more free form structure. Breaking them down into verse/chorus or anything like that seems a little silly. The songs are broken down into what can best be described as movements, like in classical music, and break free from many traditional song forums. "2+2=5" for example builds up with a fairly generic structure but breaks into the explosive (and totally different) climax, which can't be really classified as a verse, chorus, or bridge or what have you. Their structures more resemble a band like Modest Mouse, playing out one motif until it breaks down or builds up into something else.
- Bryan
Quote from: plasticman on Thu 19/06/2003 17:29:15
Quote from: DGMacphee on Thu 19/06/2003 15:47:00Also, I dig a lot of the subtle Bush/Iraq political references in the album -- Like the title 'Hail to the Thief' (Obviously a reference to George W. Bush at the presidential election) or songs like 2+2=5 (Possible reference to election results) and Sit Down Stand up (The line "We can wipe you out anytime') as examples (There are plenty more).
i might be wrong, but i think they named the album in reference to some anonymous guy who stole their early unfinished tapes for their new album a while ago. it seemed to piss them off a lot, which is understandable.
It could be both.
Also, remember that someone in the studio leaked the tracks onto Kazaa a few months before release -- could also be a reference to that.
However, you can't ignore the political references in most of the songs -- a lot of the references also deal with surveillance society developments in the last few years (e.g. the Patriot Act).
And 'Hail To ThE Thief' is a well known reference to Bush election 'win' -- there's even a webiste that goes by the same name that's been operating way before the album came about.
Bryan:
I very much agree with your list - though I'm temped to interchange The Bends and Amnesiac.
remixor:
I agree that HTTT isn't a technically innovative, but the reason why I like Radiohead (and the reason why I like this album so much) is that it continues to represent humanity on another level.
Where OK Computer represented the ideology of 'being human', HTTT provides a human uncertainty in their songs this time.
This is exactly how I feel, and I think how most people feel these days -- uncertain and confused, yet hoping for a better future.
Then again, I'm looking at the album as a whole here, including the album cover.
Try and make sense of the whole thing -- it's really impossbile to understand it all (for example, try and find links between the two different titles for each song).
In the end, it's impossible to understand 100% of anything -- just like humanity as a whole.
I don't understand all of what their albums try to tell me -- but I have a wonderful time trying. :)
Check out this:
http://www.worth1000.com/view.asp?entry=49355&display=animation
Captivating, isn't it?