Recently my best friend's sister uploaded some of her new pictures, and when I saw them I realized something. She's not a little girl anymore. She's almost 17 years old now, and somewhere in there she found the time to become incredibly hot while remaining completely under the radar. Most likely because I've known her for eleven years.
The pictures got me thinking...and the more I think about her...the more I want to think about her. But now I'm becoming pretty conflicted. She is my best friend's younger sister. I've known her for 11 years. She's still underage. Flags are going up saying STAY AWAY! but it seems the harder I try not to think about her, the more I do.
I keep rationalizing with myself. Telling myself that I can't possibly have feelings for her. I don't really know her all that well. But that just makes me think that in the 11 years I've known her, I've really never gotten to know her. I know basically about her personality and whatnot, but I don't really know her. Then thinking along these lines makes me want to. I want to get to know her. What she thinks about, what she feels, what she cares about in life, what makes her happy, what makes her sad, what she loves, and what she hates...
But she's my best friend's sister! I'm not supposed to like her! Suddenly life for me has become much more awkward. I live with two of her brothers (my best friend and his brother ;)) and I'm terrified they'll walk around the corner and see me staring at her picture, lost in thought about her.
I'm not saying I love her. I don't. But I think I may have a crush...on my best friend's sister.
So... where's the link?
I say go for it. If he's really such a good friend he should be ok with it. Just treat her well. I dunno why her being under age should be an issue. If you are not planning to have sex you should be alright I guess.
Move to the UK where 16 isn't underage.
@Tuomas: Lol but no. ;)
Buckethead, I guess it wouldn't be a big deal really, it just makes me nervous. All it would take would be her saying that I did something...I'm not saying she would (I honestly doubt she would), but it just makes the situation all the more awkward.
Honestly I think my friend would be okay with it. I also have to think about her parents. They know me and seem to like me and get along with me pretty well, but that doesn't mean they would necessarily want me dating their daughter. And then who's to say she would even be interested in me anyway?
If I do decide to pursue it (which I think I already am very, very cautiously and slowly), I think I'll have to proceed very carefully. Especially if she's not interested, mentioning that I am could make things quite more awkward than my life already is. :-\
SSH and/or Flibble: Loan me $5000 ($2k for flight, $3k for moving, and "getting started" expenses). :-*
Quote from: SSH on Fri 16/05/2008 16:38:33
Move to the UK where 16 isn't underage.
Listen to this man.
I once dated a good friend's younger sister ... he actually gave me his blessing to do so. I called him and told him I was interested but that I wouldn't proceed without his consent. He was totally cool with it and even said he couldn't think of a better guy blah blah blah ...
So it really depends. The very best thing you can do is be up-front and honest (with your friend AND with the sister).
Don't "date" her behind his back because he WILL eventually find out and if you've been hiding it from it you've immediately lost because you're admitting you were doing something wrong (or you'd not have hidden it in the first place!).
My famous quote:
"No skirt is worth losing a friend..."
But above all ... if you think your friend would NOT be okay with it (IE might ruin the friendship) make sure that it's not just lusting over some young hottie!! I have found, through bitter (BITTER) experience that often we lust after an object that we can't have.
Search your feelings ... this is a very touchy subject!
Best of luck!
Pfft, since when did everyone become so sensitive about this crap?
I tend to take a "flirt with them until someone tells you not to" kind of attitude, and it works out pretty well. You just have to have a sense of when people are getting upset, and when they don't care. Maybe it's just me, but you can see it in their eyes when someone's uncomfortable...
My friend has actually taken this "having a crush on your friends lil' sis'" to a new level. I can count 4 friends whose little sister he's had a crush on, and there's always a new one :) He's made it clear to the friends, it's not a secret in our circles, but he hasn't made any moves towards the sisters. He though he'd better just leave it be as it is.
But I can't really give you advice on this. In a reproductive sense it really doesn't matter who your mate is, so you don't have to go hurting their feelings. What you could do is hang around with her and see if she even acts a bit interested. If so, then I think you should go for it. I would.
You should have been on Stickam I was showing everyone there pictures of her. :=
Oh well...I'm afraid to approach her brother about it. We've been best friends for 11 years...and I'm pretty sure it's not a big deal to him...but...I just don't want to make things awkward...but then I find myself, almost coming out of a trance...realizing I've been staring at her picture and thinking about her again. I've got to do something...I think I'll bite the bullet and talk to her brother.
Didn't you have a similar problem in the past, Monkey?
Or is this the same girl. :-\
You go Monkey. :) Talk to her brother. And try not to be creepy while you're at it ;) and you should be fine. The worst that could happen is that your friendships become strained if he thinks it's weird that you like his sister. But if you work this out just right, he shouldn't find it weird - after all you haven't actually DONE anything yet besides think of her, right?
Good luck, and let us know how it turns out.
Quote from: LimpingFish on Fri 16/05/2008 23:57:38Didn't you have a similar problem in the past, Monkey?
Or is this the same girl. :-\
Actually it's a different girl, and the situation is rather different in itself. Though I would like to think that I've learned from my past mistakes, and certainly plan not to remake them! ;)
Quote from: auriond on Sat 17/05/2008 01:06:57You go Monkey. :) Talk to her brother. And try not to be creepy while you're at it ;) and you should be fine.
I'm a rather awkward person to have to listen to when it comes to something quite like this. For two hours I stalled with discussion of physics, time travel, the multiverse theory, even trigonometry! Finally in the end though I was forced to admit while holding a small pocket knife to my wrist:
"If I were dead then it would be pointless for me to have a crush on your sister. That
would solve my problems!"
I wasn't being serious about the knife and he knew it, but at least I finally blurted it out. He assured me it wasn't a big deal and he doesn't care. I knew he wouldn't, but the situation still made me wretchedly nervous. The hard part I imagine would be trying to approach her about it. Girls always did terrify me.
It's still terribly awkward crushing on her like this...but at least phase one is over...but wait...isn't phase two the one with the lasers? Dammit! :=
Just give us the link Lebowsky!
It's not like there aren't other humans with breasts out there to be interested in. If you really think it's an issue, find another one to obsess over.
Problem solved!
According to Helm's age difference rule of thumb you can date her.
Don't!
You'll only fuck everthing up.
Now where are those pics.
pics plz
pics plz
Well I guess it couldn't hurt to post one little picture...I'm such a fool for peer pressure!
(http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/4788/smallmk9.png)
The full-size image on her MySpace is one of my favorite pictures of her.
I have been told that I have overexaggerated the hotness of this chick...but the fact that I find her attractive at all threw me for a loop in the first place. I've known her for most of my life, and gone most of my life without ever really thinking of her like that. It's just kind of a kick in the head when I saw this picture for the first time and had to say, "Holy hell your sister is hot! :o"
So what happened to just talking to women (women, not skirts or humans with breasts, thank you very much) and finding out how THEY feel?
Quote from: monkey_05_06 on Sat 17/05/2008 21:20:26
I have been told that I have overexaggerated the hotness of this chick...
Not by me, though. :o
Quote from: Becky on Sat 17/05/2008 21:45:21So what happened to just talking to women (women, not skirts or humans with breasts, thank you very much) and finding out how THEY feel?
Wait a second? It's possible to initiate a conversation with a female without going into anxiety-based cardiac-arrest? :o Since when?
;D Oh by the way monkey:
(http://www.intternetti.net/~jiri/motivation/anonymity.jpg) (http://www.intternetti.net/~jiri/motivation/anonymity.jpg)
P.S. Did you just refer to yourself in third person to post that image?
P.S.S. Yes.
Go ahead, tell her brother that you are starting to really like his sister.
I don't see why he should be upset about this. If he's okay with it, and you get
anywhere with her...
...there's few changes about your life and friendship:
Cons:
* if you ever get into fight with her, hurt her, etc, consider your friendship over too
* her brother should realize that he's getting between you two, you (and her) both bombarding him with questions and messages. That's a crappy position to be in... :(
* he could get jealous. That's a family thing. Simply realize the possibility.
* he probably wouldn't feel comfortable if he knew you bang her, beware of random acts of aggression
Pros:
* hard intel! Your friend can solve loads of problems with intelligence, so you'd know really well how to hit right buttons with the girl. Also, you are able to find out rough edges of hers without loads of scandal and mistrust.
* your friend would likely trust his sister with someone he knows and trusts, so he wouldn't be so protective as brothers usually are
* she probably trusts a good friend of his brother much better than a random guy, so it's good too
Overall, that's a game with uncountable pros and cons. Are you sure you can take it?
QuoteSo what happened to just talking to women (women, not skirts or humans with breasts, thank you very much) and finding out how THEY feel?
And risk with a lie? :)
Anyway, I figured this thread is about starting a hunt. And considering if putting friendship on plate is worth it.
What's to ask from girl? If she feels same way, only thing to lose is friendship. If not, no damage done.
QuoteI have been told that I have overexaggerated the hotness of this chick...but the fact that I find her attractive at all threw me for a loop in the first place.
You're young. The term "hotness" is actually that's not important variable. Unless all you want is an adventure, in which case if you care about your friendship, it's better not to do it.
Lemme tell you one thing: I'm currently dating this girl for 8 months now actually. In the beginning it was a bit awkward. Basically because she was the ex-girlfriend of my best friend, and the best friend of my ex-girlfriend. But we talked about it, and it's all cool now. I'm not sure if this is related to thematter at all, but I just thought I'd tell you.
Quote from: monkey_05_06 on Sat 17/05/2008 21:20:26
I have been told that I have overexaggerated the hotness of this chick
Bullshit!
No one can tell that. "Beauty" is a subjective feeling. I don't find her attractive at all for example. But you do much. See? Now on topic: Glad you pushed yourself to tell that to your friend. I have known at least one case that was similar to yours. These cases have advantages: 1. You perfectly know your friend and so does he know you. 2. Usually, the her parents and her brother/your friend is glad that she is dating with someone like YOU, because they know what kind of person you are.
That is the best thing that can happen to you.
Now with the phase 2, I can't help you much, this is my weaker side :-\
I would...
But does she know you've posted her picture in a forum full of sex-starved internet geeks?
(I'm assuming we're all in the same boat)
Hey!
I am not a geek ;)
Monkey, do you know how she feels about you? If you got permission from your mate, then how would it feel to be rejected by her?
Ah, another monkey_05_06 Thread About A Girl thread.
At least we get a picture ;).
Let's see... she's a pretty girl, you're a male with eyes and you've known her for ages. Perfect match for people looking to spend time together. Sure, it might not be true love but that sure as hell doesn't mean you can't have some fun together just being people. I don't see anything wrong with this situation at all.
With regards to the brother issue: if she is interested in you and you guys want to spend time together I don't feel like your best friend should be bothered by it - but then again all people are different. At least seeing as you've been best friends with this guy for a while he knows you're not a complete jerk and therefore will probably have some confidence in your ability to treat a girl nicely. This seems to be something in your favour, no?
I remember in high school one of my really good friends came up to me and told me he'd gone reading through his sister's diary (as bored males tend to do) and found an entry in which she'd confided to her Dear Diary that she had a crush on me. He suggested that her and I get together, which I found interesting considering the girl in question was his sister.
Bottom line is - your friend probably trusts you more with his sister than with some stranger he's never met before.
Good luck, fella. As far as I've been able to tell, you've not hooked up with the other girls you've posted so I'm hoping that this will be 3rd time lucky (this is the third, right, counting phone girl at work (we all knew you wanted her ;D ) ?)
Quote from: monkey_05_06 on Sat 17/05/2008 21:20:26
I have been told that I have overexaggerated the hotness of this chick...
I think she's cute. Then again, people always say I have weird taste in woman. I tend to find 'cute' far more attractive than 'supermodel gorgeous'.
a big thing to think about also is if you want a relationship OR just to have sex with her.
your friend will probably be ok if you want to have a relationship but dont try to just get her in bed (unless you want to ruin your friendship).
also think about her age. if her parents dont want you being with her I'm pretty sure they can press charges.
Quote from: monkey_05_06 on Fri 16/05/2008 16:15:35I want to get to know her. What she thinks about, what she feels, what she cares about in life, what makes her happy, what makes her sad, what she loves, and what she hates...
Sounds like you really like her. I'd say try to find out how she feels about you, or (worst case scenario) tell her you like her ;)
If you really have a crush on her you'll be kicking yourself forever for not trying to find out if it's mutual.
Pictures don't work for me (I need to see someone in person to form a real opinion) but I'd say she's cute. And she's got green walls (if that's her room) so she can't be that bad ;D
Yes it does seem that every time I start thinking about a girl I have to go and post about it on the internet. I'm sure there are plenty of people out there tired of hearing about my failed attempts with the lady-folks. I guess in a lot of ways, as I've been known to say before, I sort of feel like this is a "home" in ways for me. This is where I spend most of my time online, and I'd like to feel that I have some "friends" here.
One thing I feel pretty adamantly about is that I'm not just looking for sex. There have been a lot of chicks in my life that sure, as "a male with eyes" I would have liked to "hooked up" with...but I think there may be something more here. Of course it doesn't say much for me that the thing that caught my attention was realizing how beautiful she is...but maybe it was just enough to really make me see that there are so many other things I like about her. The more I think about it the more I feel like she might just be everything I ever wanted.
I'm sure I've probably said that before and made an ass out of myself there too...:=...but this is completely different than any crush I've had before. Not just because she's my best friend's sister, but also because we've known each other for so long.
I've been talking to some (offline ;)) friends about this, and they say that perhaps it would be best for everyone involved if I just take things slow and try to get to know her before I start trying to actually get into a relationship. It seems the best plan for a number of reasons. I would get to know her myself and see if my feelings for her develop, I could find out if she feels the same about me, the longer I wait to get into a relationship the less awkward the age difference becomes ;), and it's less likely for anyone to get hurt if we don't actually start dating until we know each other better. So for now at least that does seem the best course of action.
Yet the awkwardness of crushing on my best friend's sister remains when he pipes in with comments such as, (him) "If you married my sister..." (me) "DUDE! SHUT UP! ;D"
Quote(him) "If you married my sister..." (me) "DUDE! SHUT UP!"
That has to be one of the funniest things I have heard in a while.
QuoteI'm sure there are plenty of people out there tired of hearing about my failed attempts with the lady-folks.
I enjoy reading these. They are quite interesting.
If you really like her, then you should get to know her first, then as you grow better aquainted, then you could try asking her out.
Good luck.
The more posts like these here, the more I feel comfortable here. I am sure no one is tired about it.
The slow approach is imho a good choice, you can't mess things up. Also, after some time, when you are no more "blinded" by the first shock, you can think more reasonably.
Ok, I'll post sth . Sorry Monkey.
"She's hot baby night and day and there's no doubt about it"
"I wanna give her all I've got!!"
"Christine"
"Sixteen"
*guitar riff*
"Christine"
"Sixteen"
*guitar riff*
What ever you do, don't sqeeuz before it's yours :=
Quote from: monkey_05_06 on Mon 19/05/2008 03:08:10
...but this is completely different than any crush I've had before.
Of course it is.
Quote from: terrorcell on Mon 19/05/2008 07:34:39Quote from: monkey_05_06I'm sure there are plenty of people out there tired of hearing about my failed attempts with the lady-folks.
I enjoy reading these.
Gee, thanks for that. :-[
:= Oh by the way:
(http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/2692/aw3sm03postarvm2.png)
Recognize the poster?
Spoiler
http://www.officialhalo3cheats.com/img/H3_EmotionLandscape.jpg
And yes, it is her room. ;)
She likes Halo? Must be some special girl. Such an obscure underground game and everything.
Indeed. Very few people know about Halo it seems.
I know enough to never have its poster on my wall, but hey, you marry into what ever you like.
So she likes Halo. That means that she probably likes gaming aswell. This could work to your advantage monkey.
Why don't you make her an AGS game!
Thats an interesting idea Jon. Give it a try Monkey. If she doesnt like it then you will just look a bit wierd but you will still be in the game.
On the other hand, if she does like it... ;D
...you'll get laid. Pwnage
... or ask Ali for the Nelly Cootalot source code and just change the names ;D
I would advice against this. Halo is such an overrated game.
She looks much better in the second photo. She's more human in it.
I'd rather date a girl who plays Halo (or video games in general), than one who doesn't. Just make sure you aren't stepping on her brothers toes.
Ryan I'll quote sth from Hitchhiker's Guide since you need guidance(and I want to laugh that is)
Love: The hitchhiker's guide has this to say about love.
AVOID
That helped i hope. Now to business!!
To business!!
I know if I found a thread on the internet from a girl I kinda knew raving about how awesome I am and posting my picture on the internet I'd be thrilled. Just think about it!
Brrr, now THAT would be a thing I would remember forever!