Ok, I've been absent again, but if you remember I'm moving again, this time to the UK... been really busy.
I have some questions kinda personal in nature, however to be sure I don't break any forum rules I'd like someone that lives in the UK to PM me. Not personal as I'm afraid to share it, but it may have some adult themes that may not be suitable for all audiences :). (wink, wink, nudge, nudge, say no more) It revolves around alternate relationships.
In the US you can, if you have the nerve, walk up to a random girl on the street, after making eye contact, or even just if you find her attractive, and start talking to her, attempting to get a phone number or what have you. Does it work the same in the UK? I would assume it would, but it may be different.
Like I said, there are more questions, but they revolve around the first part of this post.
Also, I'ld like to thank all of the UK folks that have helped me out already and answered the questions I have had to this point. With my move only a month away it's eased my mind and gave me an idea of what to expect.
So, please, if you would PM me so I can ask my questions :). The reason I ask here is one of the few message boards I frequent that has a high concentration of UK people.
Thanks again.
Alynn
Am I the only one thinking this post, or perhaps even the author of it, is sick..
if you are such a player who just walks upon girls on the street, you aren't scared of gettin a blue, as we Dutch guys say it, what means getting dumped off..
So what keeps you from just trying it out..
..by the way i don't think that way is alternative.. more nature instinct!
And i can assure you.. the making-eye-contact-walk-upon-her-and-get-a-date-out-of-it tactic works all around europe..
soz if i sound rude.. but this thread is very, very odd..
Such has the moral fibre of this nation decayed that you can now do this before you have been formally introduced, even if the young lady is unaccompanied by a male relative!
Quote from: Alynn on Sat 28/01/2006 07:02:02
In the US you can, if you have the nerve, walk up to a random girl on the street, after making eye contact, or even just if you find her attractive, and start talking to her, attempting to get a phone number or what have you. Does it work the same in the UK? I would assume it would, but it may be different.
You can always try ... I find totally original lines like "do you believe in love at first sight, or should I walk past again?" work best :P
However in reality if you start talking to a totally random girl on the street then you're likely to get either CS-sprayed or a large bill at the end of the night, depending on what street it was.
I don't know...
I always thought that there are better ways to meet someone (boy or girl), not just find someone random in the street and start talking.
I mean at least find her/him in a conert, pub, cinema, something that points out that you have at least 1 thing in common. At least for me,with music it always works... Actually this is how I met my wife, in a conert... I don't know if this is good or bad but... ;)
Well the personal part isn't what I want the PM about, the part I asked about is the part that I am sure I can post here....
I ask this because you can do this in the US, in Germany you don't walk up to strangers on the street since they value their privacy, however in a club (or just outside getting some air) is fine. Although there the girl is most likely going to talk to you first, in my experience anyway.
When I mean on the street, it doesn't nessicerily mean walking around out in public, it's talking to any female you don't know.
DonB:
So I'm sick because I'm interested in what is cultrully accepted in a society that I am alien to, so I do not embarass myself or any individual of that culture? I'd like to think smart enough to ask the question before I do so.
CJ: Thats what I was looking for, seems trying to do so may be asking for a pepperspray eyewash, as for the second scenerio, I always look for the red lights just to be sure ;).
While I do appreciate the commentary, I don't ask these questions to be cute or funny, these are things that I and my wife want to know. That last sentence might clue you in on the alternate relationship part. So, again, the question is still open I'd like more opinions, just none on how sick I am, or if what I'm asking is "right" or "wrong", I'm asking is is generally socially acceptable to talk to an unaccompanied (because I'm certain if a girl is walking around with any male you should assume that is her significant other, and should not be approached for any reason except maybe fore directions) female. I would like you to stick to the realm of the question.
Thanks again.
BTW: If you are married the info below is mainly for those that are looking for a friend, future wife, etc. But some of these things still can be used even after you are married. (I misread your post and didn't read the latest one before this.)
If you really are 28 years old, (as your info states,) you shouldn't have any problems communicating with girls. Just be a gentleman. Open doors for them, let them pass before you if they are going in the same direction, say "God Bless you" if they sneeze or cough, offer napkin/handkerchief if they need it, always look at their eyes when you speak and never stare at her imperfections... (or perfections...nudge, nudge.) Try to find things you have in common...and work with it. If you meet her in a certain place, try to figure out what brought the two of you there, which gives you a common interest to start a casual conversation. Don't pressure yourself with outrageous goals or expectations. If you are a gentleman and respectable, you will attract the right girls. If you are handsome...definitely a plus. If you are a smooth talker, yet another good bonus. If you plan to make jokes, to lighten up the conversation, keep them clean and conservative. Be inquisitive but don't ask too many questions... try to talk about what she likes, dislikes, etc. If she wants you to open up first, do so with basic things. Don't give too much at the beginning...this will scare her away. Obviously, these tips won't work for everyone. Just remember, if she's not interested don't annoy her with your persistence. Remember, be a gentleman.
Well, it's all about location really, I mean if you're in a club or to a lesser extent a pub, people will expect you to 'randomly' talk to them, it's sort of why they're there.
On the other hand if you're just walking down the high street or in the supermarket, you'll tend to get strange looks.
If you're into swinging-type stuff, it might even be easier just to look up some local 'clubs' on the internet than to start approaching random girls about it :P
Come to Essex. It's difficult to not get laid here.
I, of course, am the exception to that rule.
Well, see from what I have been reading, you are quite a bit more free to express your alternate lifestyle. Here you are liable to get slapped or publicly embarassed since, generally speaking, that sort of behavior is frowned upon by my society.
My only Euro experience before now is Germany, and you could be much more expressive about such things. Asking a female if shw would be interested in such a meeting would be turned down as if you just asked about yourself, they didn't think twice or look down on you for what you did.
Generally, the internet route is what we have to do here, as the places to post about such matters people are looking for such things to begin with, so I wasn't so much concerned about the internet side, as I expected that. This is more concerned about the real life meeting type things.
The biggest obsticle to us is the fact that we have children, which here is usually a deal breaker here. I'm hoping there are some more open minded people out there.
Closest bigger city to where we will be located is Huntingdon in Cambrigeshire, so I'm guessing we will be in Cambrigeshire as well. Which is about an hour away from London (northward).
I've been doing some searches here and there, just nothing largely serious since I'll be computerless as of the end of this week, but I'm just trying to avoid any "international incidence" if you will :).
Thanks for the serious replies I need to get all my questions in before my computer goes poof on a moving truck.
Quote from: Alynn...The biggest obsticle to us is the fact that we have children, which here is usually a deal breaker here. I'm hoping there are some more open minded people out there...
Some one educate me here... what the hell is he talking about!? I'm missing something here. ???
Quotein Germany you don't walk up to strangers on the street since they value their privacy
Believe me.. you can..
QuoteSo I'm sick because I'm interested in what is cultrully accepted in a society that I am alien to, so I do not embarass myself or any individual of that culture? I'd like to think smart enough to ask the question before I do so.
It sounds rather sick to me that you wanna pm with UK guys about adult themes you could just find out yourself..
unless.. you are really the kind of guy who first plans some years before talking to one single girl.. if thats so.. i didnt knew that kind of guys existed.. except for in the movies
;) i had no need for offending you tho.. xcuse me for that..
For some reason this makes me think of my car....
(http://www.stencilsandstripes.com/images/Dodge_Plymouth/DartSwinger_Decal.jpg)
(Not really a pic of my car, can't find my camera, but mine is the same...except it's tan....)
Ok, now I get it! That's disgusting!!!
Nevermind that I even wrote anything in this thread... that's just plain wrong!
Alynn: Don't ask CRAP like that here in these forums, you should be ashamed of yourself! This where people talk about game design and other things CLOSE to that nature. Leave your sexual fantasy-shit out of these forums. This is not an adult link!
My lord, I seriously thought you were just trying to find a way to make a friend. *shakes head in disbelief*
Mods: Why wasn't this thread locked???
We were too busy waiting for the inevitable "rharpe gets it" post :D
Oh and you know, we aren't you.
rharpe, you are not here to criticise other people's lifestyle choices, that is their own choice and theirs alone.
Rharpe!
I have very loyal values when it comes to being with a girl, and for me to even look at another girl sexually, would be a disgrace upon my own beliefs.
But that is how i feel, if a married couple want to have sexual relations with other people, and it isn't hurting anyone else, then what's the problem? And they shouldn't have to cower in fear at the thought of talking about it to anyone! So you may think it's disgusting, and I may not understand it, but you should be more open minded that our ways are not the only ways.
But at least it gives Alynn an idea of what some of the opinions people will hold.
Yeah, my wife and I are looking for help with our golf swings too...
I am not going to sit here and pretend all is fine-and-dandy...it's not! I could care less what people do with their lives: gay, trans, lesb, etc. That's not the issue. The issue is he wants to get advice in a place where, I feel, is inapproriate. An adventure gaming board of all places??? Does anyone see anything wrong with this?!
Go to your adult sites/forums and ask these questions... not here! There are kids here that don't need to know or even be introduced to things of this nature.
I.E. Becky! She is a 17 year old that is now defending this behavior... she's only 17... I'm sure there are people that are even younger.
Obviously I have made a name for myself when it comes to opposing immorality... this is fine by me. I like that everyone knows where I stand on certain issues. But flaunting your sexual desires, tendancies, or inclinations to a bunch of yound game-designers is WRONG!
Quote from: rharpe on Sat 28/01/2006 23:26:26
But flaunting your sexual desires, tendancies, or inclinations to a bunch of yound game-designers is WRONG!
Is it the fact they are game-designers that makes it wrong?
Anyway, we all know really that swingers are a fabrication of porn mag letters pages to give lonely young teenage guys hope...
Rharpe, do not use this thread as a soapbox for your personal views, and please take note of the first sentence of the second golden rule of posting.
Do not patronise Becky either.
Shut up rharpe.
You seriously have no clue about who I am, what I think and what I know.
The minimum age for this forum is 16.
The legal age of consent is 16.
Neither of these facts are really relevant, however, since this is hardly a sexually explicit thread -- why aren't we allowed to have a mature discussion about an adult topic? If a thread doesn't interest you, you're free to ignore it.
I don't remember there being strong objections to a recent thread about contraception ... but surely discussing that was flaunting sex in front of impressionable, innocent young minds?
Rharpe,
Alynn did not "flaunt" his sexual desires. Ã, He asked very discreetly, so discreetly in fact that you didn't know what he was even talking about at first. Ã, :P
Had he started a post titled "MY WIFE AND I WANT SEX!!!" and then graphically described his lifestyle, his intentions, etc I might see your point, but as it is, he hasn't harmed anyone. Ã, Let's just leave it at that please.
Oh, so it's about sex? I didn't even think about it that way until you people with dirty minds mentioned it.
o_O
Yes, do not patronize Becky IF YOU VALUE YOUR LIFE.
But yes, just because you find it morally reprehensible doesn't mean everyone does, and it's almost insulting that you impose your morals on us all by telling him to not talk about this sort of thing here.
I, for one, have no problem with his lifestyle and I find his approach to getting information about it to be tactful. It wasn't as if he came in and made a post like "ME AND MY OLD LADY WANT TO HAVE SEX WITH PEOPLE! TELL THE CHILDREN!".
Although it'd be awesome if he did!
Surely, though, Alynn, there's easier ways of finding a babysitter...
Alynn, you lucky, lucky man. :) I need to get married so i can try it out too, but i'm not doing anything with the guy. :)
Quote from: PumamanThe minimum age for this forum is 16.
The legal age of consent is 16.
Neither of these facts are really relevant, however, since this is hardly a sexually explicit thread -- why aren't we allowed to have a mature discussion about an adult topic? If a thread doesn't interest you, you're free to ignore it.
I don't remember there being strong objections to a recent thread about contraception ... but surely discussing that was flaunting sex in front of impressionable, innocent young minds?
Maybe you should bump it up to 21. Most people aren't mature until then.
Quote from: rharpe on Sat 28/01/2006 23:50:15
Maybe you should bump it up to 21. Most people aren't mature until then.
Shurely, you mean 31 ;)
btw, spot-on for getting most of the AGS demographic on your side!
Quote from: Becky on Sat 28/01/2006 23:31:13
Shut up rharpe.
You seriously have no clue about who I am, what I think and what I know.
No I'm sorry I don't. All I know about you is by the responses you make. I'm not trying to be mean. I'm trying to help keep the children on this board innocent... with no help from others as you can clearly see.
QuoteNo I'm sorry I don't. All I know about you is by the responses you make. I'm not trying to be mean. I'm trying to help keep the children on this board innocent... with no help from others as you can clearly see.
But you see, this post is HARDLY adult. The minimum age on this forum is SIXTEEN. The legal age of consent in quite a few places is SIXTEEN. No one is being "corrupted". No one is being deprived of their "innocence".
Quote from: rharpe on Sat 28/01/2006 23:50:15
Maybe you should bump it up to 21. Most people aren't mature until then.
If it was up to me, they'd raise the drinking, smoking and driving age to 21, and all teenagers would be forced to sit at home and watch good wholesome family drama shows on the telly, whilst occasionally having a break to sing songs round the fireplace.
QuoteI'm trying to help keep the children on this board innocent...
Then you'd better get to it and start blaming Canada.
Quote from: Becky on Sat 28/01/2006 23:57:16
QuoteNo I'm sorry I don't. All I know about you is by the responses you make. I'm not trying to be mean. I'm trying to help keep the children on this board innocent... with no help from others as you can clearly see.
But you see, this post is HARDLY adult. The minimum age on this forum is SIXTEEN. The legal age of consent in quite a few places is SIXTEEN. No one is being "corrupted". No one is being deprived of their "innocence".
No it's now
Everyone post cracks at rharpe time.
Searching the internet for folks of high moral fiber? Not the best place truthfully....
One word:
(http://koti.mbnet.fi/tk-/img/RTFM.gif) n00b
If some little children read adult content in these forums, do they feel offended, or filthy or something? Nah, I don't think so. They just think: "Hihi, sex. *giggle*" and go on searching for some good freeware adventure games.
Just chill out, rharpe. :P
Was that in response to Alynn, Ishmael? I didn't know there was a manual.
Esseb, it's called the Bible, didn't you know ;)
Anyway, don't forget folks that it's not too late to get your nominations for Worst Troll/n00b i this year's FOREGOs. Don't know why I mention that...
Quote from: Squinky on Sat 28/01/2006 22:59:07
For some reason this makes me think of my car....
(http://www.stencilsandstripes.com/images/Dodge_Plymouth/DartSwinger_Decal.jpg)
(Not really a pic of my car, can't find my camera, but mine is the same...except it's tan....)
Dart swings? awesome. Ã, Now if onlt she was desperate, too.
And, rhape. It's pointless trying to discipline the little folk in here. If you're going to go on a crusade of almost biblic proportions, you'd better widen your target to the internet as a whole. Ã, If the internet was sodom and gamorra (sp), then ags would be one of the innocent people living on the outskirts who had never ever heard of buggery.
Esseb: No, it was not. Badly addressed, I admit. It was to rh-wotwassit, whose name I cannot be arsed to check for correct spelling.
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Ok, enough off-topicism, I think we've got the trolling out of the way. Please keep things relative to the original post, I don't want to see this turn into 80 pages of unnecessary nonsense.
Quote from: Petteri on Sat 28/01/2006 23:38:39
Oh, so it's about sex? I didn't even think about it that way until you people with dirty minds mentioned it.
o_O
Yes, yes it is... it took me like 5 minutes of careful re-reading to figure out the clue to the real topic.
I have to say that it's a strange question to ask. For example, it's kind of like asking if you accept having an affair. Well, of course you do if you're having one yourself! but I don't think the wife would approve, you know? My family is famous for having their secret ladies, and there are even some interesting stories, though I don't think it's either accepted or frowned upon, at least from my point of view. Maybe the women in my family think it's wrong.
The best way to find out about your situation is just to be out in the field and talk about sex with people that you will meet and your future friends, to understand how they think about the topic. Maybe even mention your situation as a joke first (like SSH is doing) to see how they react. Doing research beforehand is going to be hard because it depends on the exact location in the UK where you'll live. I'm guessing that in the city people are sexually more open than a small city/town. Same thing here in the States.
Finally, asking for a phone number on first sight is one thing (and I haven't tried it, I do some talking first...), but asking for an intimate relationship, of any kind, on eye contact is another story.
I came on this morning, saw this topic and thought, "How on earth did it get to 3 pages already? It was moving so slowly yesterday".
Ah.
Like CJ said, if you don't like the subject of the thread and just want to attack the poster, don't post on it. I was rather bored with it yesterday but now that I know what it's about, it's interesting ;D (Not in... that way... I just mean it's fun to read).
I think this is your answer right here though, if you were wondering about people's reactions to your lifestyle. Mixed, so you still have to be careful in unknown circles.
My own two cents on the subject, since it's been raised... heck, I wish kids weren't so innocent! One of my students asked me on Friday, "What does 'turn me on' mean?" and I was so embarrased to try and explain it to him. He's gonna be 18 next year so there should have been no reason for it. If kids weren't so silly about sex, it wouldn't have been so difficult for me. I'd rather we made efforts to make them maure about the topic, rather than keep them innocent... the only -reasonable- reason I can think of for keeping kids innocent is because keeping them at home watching TV all night would make it more fun for the rest of us when we wanna go out. No annoying teenagers out ^_^
The day I can say 'fuck' around a kid without fear of some angry mother getting narky at me... well, I guess it's already come because they don't have a concept of swearing in Japan (and if I say "fuck" in English, they usually don't understand anyway). Although I wish the language had stronger words for expressing anger, I admire that they don't just taboo certain words. It's so senseless...
Holy Cow look what I started...Ã, ::)
And Rhape's reaction is EXACTLY why this topic is hard to approach people about here in the states, as most the populus react in that way. I've been threatened online, been slapped, in all of the attempts to talk to an individual on this subject only 3 reacted without anger (and 1 was because she was too young but she was interested) of the other two one was married, and the other just "didn't swing that way".
How the last 3 reacted is the mature mindset I'm hoping exists where I am headed, I know in Germany it happened quite often. I just don't see why people have to react so violently, Rhape seems the type of person that if (assuming rhape is male) another male hit on him he would get upset and possibly violent. I've had that happen a few times and each time it's nothing more than while flattering, not my thing.
And I wasn't asking if they accept having an affair, the question was (in more words), "Can you approach someone in the streets in the UK and talk to them in an effort (if chemistry is there) to make an interpersonal connection."
I did my best to be discrete on the full extent of my question, so much as to be enigmatic, so when I gave more hints as to what exactly I was asking I suddenly get attacked for trying to corrupt the youth.
And Rhape last I checked this was the general discussion forum, in which one can bring up any topic that is not covered in the other forums. This thread applies. This is one of the few forums that I know of that has a high concentration of European and more importantly UK'ers. Most of my other message boards have only a handfull (that I know of).
And really, he must have not been on these forums near as long as I have because there have been far worse topics on this board.
If anything it was quite amusing, however I do like to see that the acceptance list is quite a bit larger than the "Back to the depths of hell you demon!" crowd.
Oh and this is for Pesty "ME AND MY OLD LADY WANT TO HAVE SEX WITH PEOPLE! TELL THE CHILDREN!".
I accept you Alynn, although now my image of you has changed. Before you looked like that avatar of yours in my head....Now I see you wearing a burgandy turtle neck and smoking a pipe....weird eh?
Weirdly enough, I used to be in law enforcement, and I happened to move next door to a co-worker (A deputy). I then found out he was real big into swinging...I didn't mind except that his kids knew about his and his wifes lifestyle (I guess that is better than pretending and finding out later) and would talk about it with my kids. It was....odd....
Alynn, why don't you make a game about your situation?
He he?
--JJ
PSÃ, At the end of it, make a script where you ask the reader to PM you what they think you should do in that situation. Lol...
:D
My son is 18 months old and my daughter is 8. She has no idea about our lifestyle. And until we have the "talk" or until she figures it out on her own, then we'll explain it to her. However she is fully aware of what "gay" and "lesbians" are. It's hard not too this close to Seattle, and gay, lesbian, and homosexual are floated on the evening news and talk shows.
It's a personal decision, hell my wife approached me with this, and I damn near choked to death on my subway sandwich (I was midswallow when she told me). I just wish people would be open minded enough to say "While I don't agree with it, I'll accept your choices."
Hrm... No pipes and I hate turtlenecks... and actually I do look similar to my Avi, except for the glowing eyes part... that was a slight embelishment ;D
Yes jfrizyb, I shall, and the evil group of censors trying to destroy me!!!! i wil wen dis battel! :D
Quote from: Ishmael on Sun 29/01/2006 00:14:12
Esseb: No, it was not. Badly addressed, I admit. It was to rh-wotwassit, whose name I cannot be arsed to check for correct spelling.
I figured as much.
It was, however, nonsensical. What manual should rharpe read?
Quote from: Edmundo on Sun 29/01/2006 01:05:04
I'm guessing that in the city people are sexually more open than a small city/town.
Oh I dunno -- the City is full of stiff upper-lip suit types; move into the country and the people are at one with the animals... I'm sure AGA can fill you in on that...
Quote from: Alynn on Sun 29/01/2006 03:00:52
I just wish people would be open minded enough to say "While I don't agree with it, I'll accept your choices."
Do you mean, perhaps, "While I don't agree with it, I'll
tolerate your choices"? Acceptance requires agreement, after all.
Also, I don't think open-mindedness has anything to do with acceptance or tolerance. Having an open mind requires a person to take an idea that is given to them, consider it carefully, then make an educated decision as to whether to agree with it or not. It does not require you to accept the idea, nor does it require you to tolerate it.
For the record, I'm completely against your lifestyle as well; however, I'm not your mommy, and therefore can't make moral decisions for you. Unfortunately, I also am not in a position to give you any advice. Good luck finding what you are looking for.
Hahah, man, just stumbled on this thread and boy was I missing out.
I loved Rharpe's original post with his advice on picking up women... I think I may have shit myself reading that. Maybe just a little.
What are women? :-\
They look a bit like men, but they clean stuff and make dinner and babies. And sometimes they work on adventure games.
After that description, I can't help wondering if you have one, big brother ^_^
Yea I keep them in bags in the closet.
Actually, I'm lying. I've never been out of this room. But sometimes I see them walking on the street outside my window. And of course, they post here sometimes.
Women... On the internet?! HAHAH
Eric, I was surprised to learn this, too. Did you know that they even drive nowadays?
Quote]Obviously I have made a name for myself when it comes to opposing immorality... this is fine by me.
No, you haven't made a name for yourself as one who opposes immorality. You've made a name for yourself as the resident fundie with an assorted collection of chips on your shoulder, always eager to condemn and criticize with a bible at hand.
QuoteI like that everyone knows where I stand on certain issues.
See, this is the problem. Nobody asked you to pass judgement. It's one thing to present an alternate viewpoint for the sake of discussion, which is welcomed in a message-board, and completely another to get on your soapbox, preach, condemn and also rediculously claim you're 'doing it for the innocence of the kids'. Nobody asked you. You're not a moderator. It's not your job. You are not Becky's dad. Do in your own house as you desire. Here, it might be a better idea to treat dissenting opinions and lifestyles to your own with respect. We are NOT all American fundamentalists like you, nor do we all believe in your god, or adhere to your morality of choice. We may all discuss things that you therefore might find insulting or deviant if we so desire. If this leniency offends you, then leave.
Quote
I.E. Becky! She is a 17 year old that is now defending this behavior... she's only 17... I'm sure there are people that are even younger.
That's extremely condescending, and I think you owe Becky an apology.
I've met Becky and she's very mature and thoughtful, and strikes me as a person more able to deal with things of this nature than your obstinate narrow-mindedness will ever allow you to be.
Quote
it's now Everyone post cracks at rharpe time.
It seems to be that time quite often. You can do something about it, but you sort of need to realise it yourself. Good luck.
Sex--is it bad or great?
Sex is great!
Who do you have it with?
Your wife...
Why your wife? Why not just anybody?
Well, just sit back and think about it: You have this child who doesn't even know who his father is and is very angry and rebellious towards his mother--even going so far as to contemplate killing her! One day, he does...and is found out by the authorities and serves time for it.
He gets out of prison--and looks around and observes how a lot of people around him act. What does he do? He goes around and copies them--having sex with whomever he pleases. The result? More children are born who, one way or the other, turn out just about like their father--THEY go around doing what their father did. And soon, most of the world is filled with angry kids--PURPOSEFULLY making other folks pregnant in order to make life miserable ON PURPOSE mind you!
My dad works for a humanitarian society that takes care of women who PURPOSEFULLY inflict men with AIDS because they are so angry with the man who gave it to them, that they desire to exact revenge against any males that they seduce! Thank God that most women, who have their children at this humanitarian facility, realize the value of life and decide that they will QUIT seeking revenge against the men and take care of their children as BEST as they can!
...So, just thought I would add that to all this.
...Next question is, "How do we stop children from being so bitter?" The answer is, give them love. Give them a home where they have a father and a mother. Give them a home that can provide them with love from both of their parents. And finally...give them a home that can provide not only with their physical needs but also spiritual fulfillment.
Do you see that if we start giving children this kind of a home, that we can actually reduce all kinds of crime? Do you see that with the aforementioned love in the home, children will learn to love and get along with each other instead of fighting and quarreling with one another daily?
As for Alynn...well, he did an interesting job with hiding what he was really trying to say. But it failed near the end... ;D Look Alynn...this bit about only having sex with your wife, isn't something only the Christians practice--around the world, people are practicing it because they know that it works! Most people aren't even Christian and yet, they adhere to this principle.
So, when all is said and done, everything boils down to this: will YOU follow that advice? Are YOU patient enough to wait until you're married before having sex? (And remember...you will reap the consequences of the choice you make...)
--JJ
Let's all stop our moral lectures and let Alynn, who is I am sure experienced with his alternative relationship and full aware of the importance of contraceptives, just get on with things.
So as long as the kid knows who the father is everything is okay?
/me enters a polyamorous relationship with two women
So by this logic, children in a one parent house hold don't get enough love or may be bitter against all repair until they have another parent in the situation?
But the parent has to be a different sex than the original parent because you say Mother and Father, what about transgendered parents? Gets a little tricky there!
On top of that hundreds and thousands and millions of people have sex without getting married, some people never get married by choice! And funnily enough Hundreds of thousands of millions of people are doing just fine emotionally, physically and spiritually. So if the consequences that they will reap is, on average, some really good sex with consenting adults who can make decisions for themselves, then rock on with the reaping!*
Funny thing about human beings, they don't give themselves enough credit as a race.
Eric
*no I did not mispell "raping"...
Who are we to judge, Alynn or Rharpe or anybody in the end?
I don't feel like it.
But I could judge the judgement...
The world is a dangerous and ugly place my son... blah blah blah bullshit!
All I know, is that we do own our own fate! I don't believe in luck, I do believe in a masterplan but this does not allow me to blame anybody for my own actiions.
Actually I find a lot of "illegal" and "sinfull" things rather intriguing and interesting. No situation is alike but I wouldn't go baming my parents cause my life might suck (which doesn't but anyway)...
Of course on the other hand I wouldn't do anything bad to hurt my children (and jfritzyb I have two of these, in case that you don't know...)
Now, Alynn, I'm sure you will find a way to get what you and your wife want. And I'm pretty sure that there are better ways than stoping random women on the street. As I'm sure that there are other ways to enjoy your life (nothing to do with better or less sinful or anything). As I know for a fact that Brittish are pretty liberal so you won't encounter any problem.
Now dont get me wrong on anything. This is all purly theoretical.
Maybe it is better for a child to not have a father that could be a bad person, either by influence with drugs, abuse, or just all around *sshole. Also, if people would just use the f*cking condoms and birth control, we could have fun without such a risk.
Condoms take the fun out of sex! ;D
Quote from: Nikolas on Mon 30/01/2006 23:06:24
Condoms take the fun out of sex!Ã, ;D
well pull out then my friend. Whatever makes ur boat float
You're kidding right? Did you check my avatar! LOL
Note to small children: Always use a condom! Always! Even when masturbating
*Nikolas get's ready to get his post deleted*
Quote from: jfritzyb on Mon 30/01/2006 21:31:47
Why your wife? Why not just anybody?
Well, just sit back and think about it: You have this child who doesn't even know who his father is and is very angry and rebellious towards his mother--even going so far as to contemplate killing her! One day, he does...and is found out by the authorities and serves time for it.
He gets out of prison--and looks around and observes how a lot of people around him act. What does he do? He goes around and copies them--having sex with whomever he pleases. The result? More children are born who, one way or the other, turn out just about like their father--THEY go around doing what their father did. And soon, most of the world is filled with angry kids--PURPOSEFULLY making other folks pregnant in order to make life miserable ON PURPOSE mind you!
You've certainly convinced me with that story 8)
I didn't think this thread could get any preachier but that new guy, whoever he/she is, has done the impossible.
I'm rather with Nik on this one :) Condoms make sex less fun, and we all know it.
But yeah, kids, use them!!
Your story is rather ridiculous, I could point holes in it til Tuesday (wait, it is Tuesday...). But I won't. I think anyone who reads it will see how ridiculous it is for themselves.
I'll say a couple of things anyway; condoms are not 100% infallible, neither is any birth control save for getting your uterus removed. Even abstinance isn't 100% because people get raped sometimes. The point is, there will never be a world where everyone's happy families with a perfectly heterosexual mother and father.
Neither will there ever be a world where people only have sex within their marriage. The main reason being that sex is one of greatest things on this earth, and people are not gonna stop doing it. Ever. Not for babies either, but for fun. It's fun, fun fun. Fun!
However, marriage is not the holy bond is was for religious types a hundred years ago (and some people today). More and more people today don't place that great emphasis on marriage. We're recognising more and more that a relationship with a person is more important that a piece of paper and a piece of jewellery. For MANY people in this world, marriage is just that; a legality. For some people it's more, but it's completely up to the individuals in question the importance they place on marriage. Many couples never get married but still live a beautiful and happy life together.
I think it's ridiculous to place any kind of value judgement on someone that revolves around whether they're married or not (or heterosexual or not).
Let's shift this discussion a little further, since Alynn is probably covered...
I find that marriage, as well as baptism and the rest of holy stuff (communion and so on) that have to do with the community and not with jewellery and a piece of paper. IT's not this that's important but the declaration that "this boy has a name", or that "This woman is my wife, and this places here besides me for as long as we both can (!!!!)"
I think that I'm going to listen to a little Madonna now (Papa don't preach...)
bye bye
now that i know what women are, thx to big brother . . . what is sex?
Quote from: MrColossal on Mon 30/01/2006 22:17:59
On top of that hundreds and thousands and millions of people have sex without getting married, some people never get married by choice! And funnily enough Hundreds of thousands of millions of people are doing just fine emotionally, physically and spiritually. So if the consequences that they will reap is, on average, some really good sex with consenting adults who can make decisions for themselves, then rock on with the reaping!*
Actually, you missed an important consequence: an increased risk of breakups. They hurt like hell!
Quote from: Kinoko on Tue 31/01/2006 00:04:55
...sex is one of greatest things on this earth, and people are not gonna stop doing it. Ever. Not for babies either, but for fun. It's fun, fun fun. Fun!
I find that one of the biggest problems with modern Western society is that it tends to place sexual pleasure as the highest goal one must strive for. (Don't believe me? Go pick something random off your local magazine rack.) In my opinion, sex is overrated. Sure, it's fun, but it pales in comparison to many other higher pursuits. To give an example that some of you may be able to relate to, I find that releasing an adventure game I made all by myself and having hundreds of people all over the world play it and tell me they liked it to be infinitely more fulfilling than being physically pleasured.
Also, I find that the having kids part of sex is something that I, personally, look forward to more than the fun part. I'm always amused at how many people think of babies as a sexually-transmitted disease, when in fact, they're a lot more useful than that. After all, once they reach a certain age, you'll be able to make them do all your household chores. What's so terrible about that?
Quote from: Mordalles on Tue 31/01/2006 00:55:30
now that i know what women are, thanks to big brother . . . what is sex?
Well, when a husband and wife... er, I mean, a man and a woman... er, I mean, two consenting adults... er, I mean, n consenting adults, where n = 1 to infinity... er, I mean, n consenting human beings... er, I mean, n consenting organisms... okay, that's enough; my brain hurts.
I was told that someone after having heard my music had a musigasm!
does this qualify instead of sex?
I find sex much much fun but it doesn't last very long. At least in my case it lasts around 2 minutes (with the pre-stuff nad the undressing). Am I doing something wrong? ;D
btw, do you have kids?
Sadly, I don't have kids. Nor do I have anyone to have kids with. :'(
Quote from: CoveredInSLUDGE on Tue 31/01/2006 01:21:07
I find that one of the biggest problems with modern Western society is that it tends to place sexual pleasure as the highest goal one must strive for. (Don't believe me? Go pick something random off your local magazine rack.) In my opinion, sex is overrated. Sure, it's fun, but it pales in comparison to many other higher pursuits. To give an example that some of you may be able to relate to, I find that releasing an adventure game I made all by myself and having hundreds of people all over the world play it and tell me they liked it to be infinitely more fulfilling than being physically pleasured.
Also, I find that the having kids part of sex is something that I, personally, look forward to more than the fun part. I'm always amused at how many people think of babies as a sexually-transmitted disease, when in fact, they're a lot more useful than that. After all, once they reach a certain age, you'll be able to make them do all your household chores. What's so terrible about that?
All true, but that doesn't take away from my original point. It's still one of those things that people will never stop doing all the time for fun. I kind of went through a 'meh' period of a couple of years in regards to sex, but it's been rediscovered ten fold. Everyone's different but you have to accept that sex IS highly valued by people, in general, and no amount of education or segregation or over-exposure will ever get rid of the fact. I just think we all need to acknowledge man's and woman's desire for sex as a constant.
I always liked the way Homer put it; "Son, a woman is like a beer. They smell good, they look good, you'd step over your own mother just to get one! But you can't just stop at one, you wanna drink another woman!".
Nik: I think maybe you're doing things a little too right if it's happening that fast ^_-
I think that it is good that sex is fun!
Can you imagine that it was painfull. There would be no human kind...
Well break ups hurt if you want to go out with the person, casual sex doesn't have to hurt... Well, depending on what you're into, prrowww!
And I agree with CoveredinSquinkySludge [somehow fitting to this topic!] sex is cool [OUT OF WEDLOCK SEX TOO! LOOK OUT GOD!] but running around on the beach and going swimming and getting all tired and taking a noon nap with my girlfriend is better. Or watching a really good movie with her... Or playing with stuffed animals with her... It's more memorable...
"Sadly, I don't have kids. Nor do I have anyone to have kids with."
Oh no! that comment even made Roger sad! Hey, I think he's single! Too bad you're a SLUDGY McHatesChrisJones!
"Nik: I think maybe you're doing things a little too right if it's happening that fast "
You can't do something too right if it's only half way... "Well, we built half of the building perfectly, the other half well.. We got tired and rolled over and went to bed..."
"Can you imagine that it was painfull. There would be no human kind... "
And yet there are tons of cats! Go fig!
Quote from: MrColossal on Tue 31/01/2006 01:37:50
You can't do something too right if it's only half way... "Well, we built half of the building perfectly, the other half well.. We got tired and rolled over and went to bed..."
Well, I guess we're assuming girls don't like a quick one either then :) (I was kidding though)
EDIT: I was JUST about to mention cats!! God damn it, that's three times today I've been about to post some facts and have been beaten to it >_<
Also, thanks a lot Eric, now I have "We built this city" stuck in my head.
So was I, but more often than not, no matter how quick a girl likes 'em, a guy can be quicker!
Damn our hides!
In the Wild West of Sex, we'd be kings!
True, true. Speaking only for myself through, and trying to be as ambiguous as I can, for me... it's not that... that does that... it's before... so if that's quick... I'm okay with that...
Ah, so if Mars is in Virgo before the equinox then you're alright with it, you frisky little pussycat.
Perhaps. I'm not sure I know what's being said anymore. :-\
Quote from: Kinoko on Tue 31/01/2006 01:34:10
All true, but that doesn't take away from my original point. It's still one of those things that people will never stop doing all the time for fun. I kind of went through a 'meh' period of a couple of years in regards to sex, but it's been rediscovered ten fold. Everyone's different but you have to accept that sex IS highly valued by people, in general, and no amount of education or segregation or over-exposure will ever get rid of the fact. I just think we all need to acknowledge man's and woman's desire for sex as a constant.
Do I HAVE to accept it? Can't I just tolerate it?
By CoveredInSLUDGE:
QuoteIn my opinion, sex is overrated. Sure, it's fun, but it pales in comparison to many other higher pursuits.
Marry me. But no kids, ok? Can't stand 'em!
But who would do your chores Prog?
I have three kids, one is eight, four and a year old. They're all boys, and a handful, but at the end of the day I tell myself someday, someday I will be sitting in my lawnchair drinking lemonaid while they mow the lawn/wash the car.
And I too, have We built this city stuck in my head. But is that a bad thing?
I leave this thread alone for a day or so, and it grows upwards like some unwanted vine pushing through the broken glass on a greenhouse roof. Soon ignorance is crawling in through the window like a jungle viper, ready to unleash its venom of absurdity upon every occupant in the entire skyscraper we call the AGS forums!
Quote from: Mordalles on Tue 31/01/2006 00:55:30
now that i know what women are, thanks to big brother . . . what is sex?
Normally, I would tell you that it's an activity that happens to women at gas stations before (and sometimes after) the trucker strangles them. Or that it's a number in German. However, since sex is a broad topic, and I think we can learn something by analyzing several opinions of those less-educated.
Quote from: Nikolas on Tue 31/01/2006 01:25:00
I find sex much much fun but it doesn't last very long. At least in my case it lasts around 2 minutes (with the pre-stuff nad the undressing). Am I doing something wrong? ;D
Yes. Never pre-stuff nad the undressing! Leave that to the Japanese.
Quote from: Nikolas on Tue 31/01/2006 01:36:21
I think that it is good that sex is fun!
Wrong! All sex is not fun. Even if it were, this would not be good. A little carefully applied critical thinking will keep us from falling into logical pitfalls like this one.
Quote from: Nikolas on Mon 30/01/2006 23:06:24
Condoms take the fun out of sex!Ã, ;D
Oh, so not ALL sex is fun. Maybe you should add that to your previous assertion, you little hypocrite!
Quote from: Kinoko on Tue 31/01/2006 00:04:55
Condoms make sex less fun, and we all know it.
Wrong and WRONG. Think of a condom as a lifejacket for the penis. Now you may watch Olympic swimmers compete in goggles and trunks on the television, and think “Wheee, that looks fun. I bet I could do that!†The answer, of course, is no. These athletes have spent a lifetime of training to be able to swim without a lifejacket IN A CONTROLLED ENVIRONMENT. When swimmers grow accustomed to their lane, they learn their limits (their own stamina, the depth of the pool, etc.). This is very different from the neighborhood snot who jumps headfirst into the creek behind your house, breaking his rotten neck and offering his brain as amoeba-fodder.Ã,Â
Now the Olympics don't air a disclaimer before the segment. Why, you ask? The reason is simple: no one in their right fucking mind watches the program and, in a fit of inspiration, dives into the English Channel without protection.
Quote from: MrColossal on Tue 31/01/2006 01:37:50
...casual sex doesn't have to hurt...
Are you honestly suggesting that, in spite of your “Colossal†name, you can have intercourse (casual or otherwise) without causing your partner pain?
So why does sex = pain then? Pain communicates dominance over a partner. It reinforces gender roles. Watch some old movies or sitcoms carefully. You'll notice that when the man arrives home from work, the wife flees to the kitchen. What is she afraid of? She could take refuge in any room of the house, so why the kitchen? These questions all point back to the function of sex as conditioned stimulus (in this case, as either positive or negative punishment, where positive is the addition of a negative stimulus as the consequence of an undesired response, while negative is the removal of a negative stimulus as the consequence of a desired response).
Or in layman's terms, “I'm going to bone you because you didn't make me a sandwich†versus “I'm going to bone you until you make me a sandwichâ€.
Quote from: jfritzyb on Mon 30/01/2006 21:31:47
Sex is great!
Again, this is not true. I had sex with you last night, and I'm sorry I didn't say it then, since you seemed so proud of yourself, but it was like boning a pillow. Boring and lots of feathers. And the pillow will never be the same…
Quote from: CoveredInSLUDGE on Tue 31/01/2006 01:21:07
In my opinion, sex is overrated. Sure, it's fun...
You are probably doing something wrong. Please re-read my answer to Nik's first question. The fun part seems to be a common misconception.
Quote from: CoveredInSLUDGE on Tue 31/01/2006 01:21:07
...when a husband and wife... er, I mean, a man and a woman... er, I mean, two consenting adults... er, I mean, n consenting adults, where n = 1 to infinity... er, I mean, n consenting human beings... er, I mean, n consenting organisms... okay, that's enough; my brain hurts.
Math has little to do with sex, unless you're talking about my second definition. We can confidently add this jibberish to the list of other widespread myths like: the Grafenberg spot, punk music on the radio, and female politicians.
Quote from: big brother on Tue 31/01/2006 06:11:39
Quote from: MrColossal on Tue 31/01/2006 01:37:50
...casual sex doesn't have to hurt...
Are you honestly suggesting that, in spite of your “Colossal†name, you can have intercourse (casual or otherwise) without causing your partner pain?
I didn't say with a woman!
Quote from: CoveredInSLUDGE on Tue 31/01/2006 01:21:07
In my opinion, sex is overrated.
Whenever I hear someone say that, I tend to think they're doing something wrong... ;)
I'm impressed by how consistently not funny big brother was on his post above.
QuoteDo I HAVE to accept it? Can't I just tolerate it?
You've made an effort twice in this thread to present this distinction, whereas I see it, I'm not sure it's all that important. Acceptance does imply a degree of agreement, but it can be an agreement to the basic fact that humans are different and do a startling range of things. In that sense, agreement with this observation can lead to the acceptance of practices you might find personally immoral, without the danger of hypocrisy, but at the expence of the 'objective' quality of your chosen morality. If it is and I hope it is that you think your morality is subjective, then no loss.
Example, although quite a fierce moral relativism one: I might not ethically condone murder under any circumstances, but I choose not to extend my moral principle to other people, and therefore I accept that there might be people who consider murder under specific circumstances (like in wartime, or in protection of property or kin) to be ok. I don't passively tolerate them for it, I accept them. The big issue of this approach though is, that such moral relativism sort of neuters much of the effect morality as a social construction, is supposed to have. That's though, a whole different discussion.
Now about the sex side of things in this topic, I have to add: I fuck goats.
Quote from: Helm on Tue 31/01/2006 07:09:15
Now about the sex side of things in this topic, I have to add: I fuck goats.
Try to be more original. Everybody knows you fuck goats!
But of course it's not about originality, but about LOVE! Yeah! ;D
Ah. Finally, someone replied.
"Look, just because you have to tolerate something doesn't mean you have to approve of it! If you had to like it, it'd be called the Museum of Acceptance! 'Tolerate' means you're just putting up with it! You tolerate a crying child sitting next to you on the airplane or, or you tolerate a bad cold. It can still piss you off! Jesus Tapdancing Christ!"
- Mr. Garrison, South Park
Why is tolerance "passive" and acceptance "active"? Both seem equally passive to me; acceptance being even more so. Acceptance, to me, seems to be more of a "whatever, do what you want" thing, whereas tolerance is more of a Voltaire thing. ("I may not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it.")
Doesn't a relativist view of morality undermine the need for morality altogether?
Quote from: Nikolas on Tue 31/01/2006 07:53:11
But of course it's not about originality, but about LOVE! Yeah! ;D
Grr... another thing I find irritating: mixing up love and sex, and also, considering romantic love to be the highest (if not only) form of love.
But this kind of love is what I'm talking about.
Helm is obsessed with goats and adores them... ;D
Now, you must now by now that most of my posts here are just ridiculous, but still it is funny... especially after the story of the new guy, this goten WAY out of hand and fortunately it was BBs turn to save the day! ;D
Well, I'll clear something up. Whether you want to call it tolerance, or acceptance, what I mean by "Accept the fact people wont stop having sex" (or whatever I said) is acknowledge it's a fact. Which is it :D
...Interesting that a lot of you agreed with the main crux of my issue. You all know that a child needs love and needs to be given love at a young age from their parents. However...you think that it doesn't really matter what you do in order to get the kid to begin with--or raising him. And that is astounding!
I thought you cared--I thought you had the best interests of the child at heart. I thought you wanted the child to have a happy home--where he does have a mother and father who love him enough to take care of him and tend to his needs. It's what a father and mother do best--provide for the child's needs while they grow up.
Why a mother AND a father? Because the father has a kind of authority that the mother doesn't have--and I'm sorry, but that's just the way things are. You and I both know it...and a child needs that kind of an authority figure in his life.
So, can we agree that yes, we should have the best interests of the child at heart? Don't you agree that a child should have a happy home where he has a mother and father to love him enough to take care of him and tend to his needs? And finally...don't you agree that this is one of the things these kind of parents do best--provide for the child's needs while they grow up?
....You know what? Maybe I should tell you about how I was raised so that you can see where I'm coming from with this...I had a mother and a father tend to my needs and take care of me as I grew up. My father loves my mother because I can tell and understand this fact of life--also, they're still together! And you know? I wouldn't have life any other way! The concept of two guys or two women "marrying" and "raising" children is foreign to me.
Something else...my dad and mom don't smoke, drink, sleep around with other folks, and shoot drugs. They don't physically or verbally abuse me (I regret the times I've argued and fought with them and yelled at them and whenever I do, I always apologize for it and try not to do it again.) And I do not say all this to be boastful.
.....
Unfortunately, these concepts are foreign to most people because most people don't have the kind of home I had. I don't look down on those kind of people; I love these kind of people.Ã,Â
...If you don't mind, I'd like to know what your background is as well. I'd like to know what aspects of your life shaped the way you believe and the way you think.
Oh, and one last thing...Have you tried the Are You a Good Person Test (http://livingwaters.com/good/)? I've taken it a few times and it's pretty interesting...
Cheers friends,
-JJ
Ok, JJ you've aksed for it!
You can ask anybody in here to tell you about me, but I'll spare you that and give you some info on my own.
First of all take a second look at my avatar. Guess what: That is my son. And guess what else: I have a second younger son. And guess what else: I don't smoke, and I don't drink (excpet for beer... ahhh Homer), and don't shot drugs, I don't sleep around. And guess what: My parents are still together after 40 years of marriage (they're older than 70 people!). And guess what: when my mother is here (we live in a different country), she babyseats every single day.
So this is my background.
I'm happily married as many member here are. And I'm sure that Alynn is too.
I hope you're not taking seriously that fact that Helm has sex with goats. Cause if you do then stop! And don't take too seriously that I last 2 mintues (I have a record breaking of 4! lol)
At least for me (and other people here, for which I'm sure, but I can't speak for them): I care.
So just drop it!
So after all this do you think that you can understand the way I (or anybody) think and believe... I doubt it...
But we have goten off the wrong foot.
Hi! Welcome to AGS Forums. This is one of the best and most loving internet communities you can find. We love adventure game and if you stick around you'll see professional people offering their time and experience for free because of love...
YEAH!
JJ, did you get that condescending prick attitude from your loving mom or your loving dad?
P.S. Since I am desperate for validation in any form in my life, I tried out your "Are you a good person?" test because I firmly believe that some guy on the internet will be able to, without having ever met me, give me a simple yes/no answer that will forever put the question to rest. But when the first page of the test posed the question, "Are you good enough to go to heaven?" I threw up just a little and had to stop. Must've been my broasted-fetus dinner.
P.P.S. I slept with your parents last night.
Quote from: jfritzyb on Tue 31/01/2006 09:09:49
Have you tried the Are You a Good Person Test (http://livingwaters.com/good/)? I've taken it a few times and it's pretty interesting...
I got a perfect 10/10 guilty. Cool. I want to go to hell. I hear it's just one big party and a lot like the depictions I've seen in music videos on television.
Squinky- But who would do your chores Prog?
Why my midget army of slave laborers, of course! The best part is that because they aren't my children and are legally adults I can claim reasonable wear and tear and even berate them when I'm feeling particularly nasty! I highly recommend everyone make/procure midget slaves.
This thread will self destruct in 5 posts.
(Commencing countdown) FOUR!
Shit I never thought of that!
Slaves! Now that's a good idea to follow. I'm going to sell my two kids and buy myself more than two slaves!
Sorry, according to the bible, you can only sell your daughters into slavery. Guess you're out of luck, Nick.
THREE
Quote from: Vince Twelve on Tue 31/01/2006 10:09:49
JJ, did you get that condescending prick attitude from your loving mom or your loving dad?
Vince, I love you SO much :D I'm gonna buy you ginormous Okinawan jug of beer, okay?
EDIT: Oh, TWO.
Quote from: Helm on Tue 31/01/2006 07:09:15
I'm impressed by how consistently not funny big brother was on his post above.
Humorblind. ;)
The swimmer argument is a serious parallel.
ONE
Quote from: jfritzyb on Tue 31/01/2006 09:09:49
...Interesting that a lot of you agreed with the main crux of my issue. You all know that a child needs love and needs to be given love at a young age from their parents. However...you think that it doesn't really matter what you do in order to get the kid to begin with--or raising him. And that is astounding!
Why is it funny that people think children need love?
QuoteI thought you wanted the child to have a happy home
A child that is loved is more often than not in a happy home. The mother and father can also love the child to DEATH but the mother and father can not just be in love anymore or actually hate each other. It happens, so now what? Is the child doomed to a bad childhood? Should we bring the single parent up on charges of endangering a child when they don't get remarried as soon as possible because somewhere there's an equation that mother + father = the only way to give a child love.
QuoteWhy a mother AND a father? Because the father has a kind of authority that the mother doesn't have--and I'm sorry, but that's just the way things are. You and I both know it...and a child needs that kind of an authority figure in his life.
Leave off how backwards your statement is, I bring the idea of a single parent home back into play. The mother dies and the father raises the children himself, I guess the children are doomed, right? Why is the father an authority figure? Is it because men are big and tough and women are small and weak that they can't be authoritative?
Quote....You know what? Maybe I should tell you about how I was raised so that you can see where I'm coming from with this...
That didn't help at all, I was raised by a mother and father and I have a brother and sister. Yet I have no awkward notion that single parents, gay parents or foster parents are somehow inferior to my mother and father. There's another question, should we just get rid of the whole foster child thing or only allow it if there is a mother and father in the home, because obviously it's doing no good and the kids will get no love and grow up to be bank rapers! [where one runs into a bank, shoots into the sky and demands the vault be opened so he can have sex with the money, UNWILLINGLY! That's how morally vacant they are, thanks for not being there dad!!]
Quote
I wouldn't have life any other way! The concept of two guys or two women "marrying" and "raising" children is foreign to me.
You know what else is foreign to you? Having a parent with cancer and what that's like. Or having a life where the mother or father has to move all the time because they work for the military [go ahead, tell me that parents in the military can't raise a child correctly]. My parents are legally divorced so my father could run for office in another county, am I doomed? Or is it because I've moved out of the house that I'm ok, but I moved in with my girlfriend and we're not married, oh no! My morals!
Again, there are people who 100% know in their bones that they were born in the wrong body, they have gender reassignment surgery and live their life 100% as a man/woman and never look back or think in a different way, are these people unfit? Is it anything that is foreign to you that you don't accept as a good place for a child?
oh one last thing...
"it doesn't really matter what you do in order to get the kid to begin" again, no more adoption?
Eric
p.s. ZERO!
COCKS COCKS COCKS!
Quote from: Kinoko on Tue 31/01/2006 08:40:10
Well, I'll clear something up. Whether you want to call it tolerance, or acceptance, what I mean by "Accept the fact people wont stop having sex" (or whatever I said) is acknowledge it's a fact. Which is it :D
I can acknowledge that it's a fact at the present time. I have slightly more trouble acknowledging that it's been a fact throughout history; although it may have been, remember that our view of the past is often biased by the prevailing views of the present. I have the most trouble acknowledging that it will always be a fact, because appealing to tradition is a logical fallacy and I need more proof than that.
Of course, this is assuming that what you mean by your statement is "acknowledge the fact that people won't stop having sex
for recreational purposes". Obviously, it's much more likely that people will always be having sex period, because without it, new generations wouldn't even come into existence. Unless, of course, we get ourselves a Junior Anti-Sex League and reproduce through artificial means...
Quote from: MrColossal on Tue 31/01/2006 15:42:54
QuoteWhy a mother AND a father? Because the father has a kind of authority that the mother doesn't have--and I'm sorry, but that's just the way things are. You and I both know it...and a child needs that kind of an authority figure in his life.
Leave off how backwards your statement is, I bring the idea of a single parent home back into play. The mother dies and the father raises the children himself, I guess the children are doomed, right? Why is the father an authority figure? Is it because men are big and tough and women are small and weak that they can't be authoritative?
Nah, it's because we live in a patriarchy that holds authority and power to be its highest ideal. If women ruled the world, we'd more likely have less wars, and our societies would probably be based more on nurture and having a sense of community. However, it would also mean that instead of countries hating one another openly, they'd act all nice in public but gossip behind each other's backs in private.
P.S. NEGA-TIVE ONE!
P.P.S. Apparently, I'm going to hell too. However, when I went back and tried checking off "Innocent" for every answer, I also was told I was going to hell. That test must be reading my mind or something!
Quote from: CoveredInSLUDGE on Tue 31/01/2006 16:43:56
However, it would also mean that instead of countries hating one another openly, they'd act all nice in public but gossip behind each other's backs in private.
QuoteIn my not-so-limited experience, all ladies do in the ladies' room is talk and fix their hair.
It's all coming together now!
When Bush says to the Israeli Premier he has to go use the Little President's room and makes a dramatic head nod to the toilet while widening his eyes at Cheney, he isn't just Presidentially Pooping!
Nothing wrong with adopting--however, it would be appreciated if a parent kept their child and raised it properly. Instead of shipping them off to some foster home that could care less.
Now, you brought up an interesting point...and I'd like to share something with you since you brought it up.
It's preferred that a child have both parents, but if, let's say the father dies and the mother is the only one around, then the mother can get in league with her mother and/or her most trustworthy and close friends in order to raise her child properly.
If you will turn to 2 Tmothy 1:3-5, we read that the Apostle Paul is writing a letter to a young man named Timothy. He states that he's thankful and glad that he consistently prays for Timothy everyday. When we reach verse 5, we see him praising Timothy's grandmother, Lois, and her daughter, Eunice, for believing and trusting the Heavenly Father God to begin with.
Obviously, they had taught Timothy what it meant to trust in God and the Apostle Paul admired that trust that he had in the Lord and enjoyed talking with him about it. He loved the kid--so did his mother and grandmother. They all loved him--and admired his faith in God.
It's interesting to note that there is no mention of the father--only of two faithful and loving mothers taking great care of their child's welfare.
What can we conclude from all this?
For some reason, the father isn't mentioned--only the mothers. However, the mothers are praised for having complete trust in the Heavenly Father to begin with. And it was this faith in God that they taught Timothy--and sure enough, he followed in their footsteps.
So...if you don't know what it means to have trust in the Heavenly Father like you would trust a parachute before jumping out of a plane, then learn it. And that, my friends, is the moral of the story...
...And it is entirely up to you to follow Timothy's example--or not.
The choice is yours...
Cheers friends,
-JJ
Well then it's probably another matter all together that if one doesn't believe in god or gods then they can't raise a child correctly, that and Progz's estimation of when the thread was going to self destruct was a few off, no ESP for you Progz! Shoulda asked Terran!
I don't know what you guys all bragging about but "sex" was never ment to be for humans. In the beginning we had no gender. We had no penis and no breasts and no vagina. We only had our butts. But aliens implanted genderDNA or something into us, so that we would all have sex and die!
I tell you, are you a virgin? Good for you, you'll live!
otherwise, your doomed, sick maniac!!!
moehahaha :o :o :o
Quote from: jfritzyb on Tue 31/01/2006 22:05:27
It's interesting to note that there is no mention of the father--only of two faithful and loving mothers taking great care of their child's welfare.
What can we conclude from all this?
???
That lesbians should be allowed to have children as long as they believe in the heavenly father?
Timmy Has Two Mommies!
JFritz, if I kicked you in the junk hard enough, do you think it could somehow reverse your "Condition"?
Where are you getting this bullshit? Do they set you in front of a tv playing videos of leave it to beaver and other crazy propaganda? Because it seems unlikely that you ever leave your home.....
My folks are still married, I grew up in a pretty basic home setting. So have a lot of people, in fact I can think of a few that I knew when I worked in law enforcement that had happy familys and then murdered people. I can also think of quite a few "family" fathers who molested their children....
Seriously, get a goddamned brain.
Quote from: Kinoko on Tue 31/01/2006 13:53:35
Vince, I love you SO much :D
Kinoko! Why I never! I'm married with a kid and you're engaged! I suggest you take JJ's good person test. Because it taught me that if you covet
anything ever you're going to hell.
Actually, it says that you're going to hell no matter what you answer... Man, that test is depressing.
Quote from: Kinoko on Tue 31/01/2006 13:53:35
I'm gonna buy you ginormous Okinawan jug of beer, okay?
Yay! We can all agree on Orion (http://www.orionbeer.co.jp/english/)!
QuoteDo they set you in front of a tv playing videos of Leave It to Beaver and other crazy propaganda? Because it seems unlikely that you ever leave your home.....
Of course I've been outside my home; I've seen what the world has to offer--and I've turned it down hook, line, and sinker. The world has NOTHING to offer me of any value! I've sought my own will before I became a Christian and I'm NOT going back!
You think I accepted Christ so that I could get a "better life" or "feel good"? No way! In fact, I EXPECT people to hate me for being a Christian! I've always expected it. Christ Himself even taught that people would persecute you if they persecuted Him.
I accepted Christ because of three things...
1. He paid my fine of disobeying Him, in full when He died on the cross for me.
2. I am forgiven of all the evil I've ever done against Him and against others.
3. I am forgiven of my past as well...
1 John 1:9: If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
I've lied, stolen, cheated, and the like. I DESERVE to go to hell because of these things that I did to others. The Heavenly Father is an honest judge and will judge me according to His standards, and if I don't measure up, I'M GOING TO HELL!!!!!
...But you know, the good news is that He loved me enough to pay for my fine of disobeying Him IN FULL! I don't need to be guilty of past sins because they're forgiven when I...
1. Ask forgiveness for disobeying Him.
2. Repent (totally turn) from those things displeasing to Him.
3. Trust in Jesus the way I'd trust in a parachute before jumping out of a plane.
...I'm clean and I'm forgiven of ALL MY SINS! Why WOULD I want to go back to the way things were? I don't ENJOY doing those things anymore! I've got a clean slate!! Why would I want to go back to displeasing Him? I don't want to; I want to be different from the way I once was.
The reason I'm telling you all this is because I don't want you to go to hell; I want you to go to heaven and that's why I'm telling you this. I want you to experience what I have.
-JJ
Ummm, so your reply to my question about you being brainwashed is to shovel out some recycled religious drivel?
I am a church going person myself, but that dosen't mean I have to force it on others, or take everything so damn seriously. But, I won't even bother going into my beliefs, because, like yours, nobody cares....
You need to stop and realize that you are acting like you are better than others here because of your faith. Your not, so stop it. And it seems to me that life has treated you well (Sheltered) for you to make such dumbass statements as above (the one about adoption ticks me off, you have no right to judge anyone until you are put into that situation.).
[qoute]You think I accepted Christ so that I could get a "better life" or "feel good"? No way! In fact, I EXPECT people to hate me for being a Christian! I've always expected it. Christ Himself even taught that people would persecute you if they persecuted Him.[/qoute]
This dosen't mean that you have to make people hate you. Jesus was a good guy, you aren't being like him with your judgemental attitude. This is the Jesus that befriended a prostitute and forgave her, you sure don't seem that open-minded....
You have a lot of gall to tell people you don't know on the internet that they are going to hell (You implied this). You don't know me, or anyone here wll enough to minister to us in a public thread....
and I like how you only answer about one question a post, I asked many questions and you gloss over them. But whatever.
I'm less scared of going to hell and more scared of my heart being eaten when Anubis finds that it doesn't weigh less than an ostrich feather.
I've been busy, and wow... just wow... I really expected this thread to be dead... and yet here it has turned into a religious debate, and a conversation about the words "tolerance" and "acceptance"... Ã, That children born out of wedlock become antisocial and then breed like rabbits... Lord knows what else I may have missed...
Also reading over this, I think there is a slight misunderstanding to what exactly my alternate lifestyle is...
How can I put this.. Ã, maybe someone will figure it out...
My wife and I have alot in common... Ã, we are a couple, we are ALWAYS together.... Her door swings both ways, but mine only swings one...
Ah screw it... she's bisexual... and I've never (and will never) be with anyone if she isn't involved... I'm not running around by myself... it's a group effort... TEAMWORK!!
Ok and on the subject of children getting ladies pregnant so on and so forth... I've been sterile for well over a year now... Did the deed, and had my vas deferens cut, carterized, and sewn closed... So that's not the issue... On the STD thing, yeah, in this day and age you have to be careful, I'm not an idiot... I didn't make it to 28 being stupid.
But anyway... I really think it's funny how this thread took off... All I really wanted to know is if it was socially acceptable to chat up a girl on the street... and it turned into all...... this... ;D
We're having fun, though, (well, at least I am) so it's all good.
Quote from: MrColossal on Wed 01/02/2006 04:51:35
and I like how you only answer about one question a post, I asked many questions and you gloss over them. But whatever.
That happens to me all the time. I guess all we can do is get used to it.
QuoteI am a church going person myself, but that dosen't mean I have to force it on others, or take everything so seriously. But, I won't even bother going into my beliefs, because, like yours, nobody cares....
...Lots of people go to church.
QuoteYou need to stop and realize that you are acting like you are better than others here because of your faith. You're not, so stop it. And it seems to me that life has treated you well (Sheltered) for you to make such dumbass statements as above (the one about adoption ticks me off, you have no right to judge anyone until you are put into that situation).
...Did I ever come out and say I was better then everyone else? If I have ever come out and stated such, then I'm sorry.
QuoteYou think I accepted Christ so that I could get a "better life" or "feel good"? No way! In fact, I EXPECT people to hate me for being a Christian! I've always expected it. Christ Himself even taught that people would persecute you if they persecuted Him.
QuoteThis dosen't mean that you have to make people hate you. Jesus was a good guy, you aren't being like him with your judgemental attitude. This is the Jesus that befriended a prostitute and forgave her, you sure don't seem that open-minded....
...Is that all Jesus told her?
...There was something else Jesus told that prostitute; He told her to go and sin no more.
After he told her that, He said something more to the religious leaders...
QuoteI am the light of the world: he that follows me will not walk in darkness, but will have the light of life. Ã,Â
Jhn 8:13 The Pharisees therefore said unto him, You bear record of yourself; your record is not true. Ã,Â
Jesus answered and said unto them, Though I bear record of myself, [yet] my record is true: for I know whence I came, and whither I go; but you cannot tell whence I come, and whither I go.
Ã,Â
Once, a rich man came to Him and said...
QuoteMatthew 19:16: Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?
And he said unto him, Why do you call me good? [There is] none good but one, [that is], God: but if you will enter into life, keep the commandments. Ã,Â
He said unto him, Which? Jesus said, You will do no murder, you will not commit adultery, You will not steal, You will not bear false witness, Ã,Â
Honour your father and [your] mother: and, You will love your neighbour as yourself. Ã,Â
The young man said unto him, All these things have I kept from my youth up: what lack I yet? Ã,Â
Jesus said unto him, If you will be perfect, go [and] sell that you have, and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven: and come [and] follow me. Ã,Â
But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful: for he had great possessions. Ã,Â
Then said Jesus unto his disciples, Verily I say unto you, That a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven. Ã,Â
And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God. Ã,Â
When his disciples heard [it], they were exceedingly amazed, saying, Who then can be saved? Ã,Â
But Jesus beheld [them], and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.
Ã,Â
The moral of the story? The rich man didn't love Jesus and he would suffer the consequences for not doing what Jesus told Him to do.
QuoteYou have a lot of gall to tell people you don't know on the internet that they are going to hell (You implied this). You don't know me, or anyone here well enough to minister to us in a public thread....
Haven't I already told you the Truth? That unless you give up your old ways of disobeying the Heavenly Father, you will suffer the consequences for it? The Bible says that all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God.
We all have lied, stolen, cheated, and the like and it is because we do these things that we will end up in hell! And what can we do in order to remedy the problem? We can't do a bunch of good things because we still have that desire to disobey Him. Therefore, it is through a self-surrender to Christ that we can be forgiven of our sins and old ways. And it is through this self-surrender that we find release from our old ways and that desire to disobey Him.
When we surrender ourselves to Him, he makes us new creatures!
"If any man be in Christ, he is a new creature; old things have past away, behold all things have become new."
Our desires change to where we want to love and please him through daily self-surrender. And that is the only key to True salvation--self-surrender to Christ.
QuoteI am the way, the Truth, and the life; no man cometh unto the father but by me.
And that, my friends, is where this next part comes in...
QuoteIf you confess with your mouth Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.
For with the heart man believes unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
THAT is your part...will you do it?
I hope you do... :)
-JJ
man Alynn... You better have some awesome threesome sex after all this!
God I hope so... the US sucks for this kinda thing really... Most the dang time people flake on us last second...
Usually it's right when they find out we have kids...
If they weren't being used for slave labor I'd give them away to someone :P
Hrm... anyone in the area where we will be living know of a lovely lady ;)
BWAHAHAHA... Ok.. yeah I'm nuts....
Well tomorrow is the last day of my computer still being here before I go into 'net limbo... I wonder how much longer this will last...
Quote...Did I ever come out and say I was better then everyone else? If I have ever come out and stated such, then I'm sorry.
No, but you don't have to come out and say something to make it crystal clear that you believe it.
Quote from: jfritzyb on Wed 01/02/2006 05:50:34
QuoteI am a church going person myself, but that dosen't mean I have to force it on others, or take everything so seriously. But, I won't even bother going into my beliefs, because, like yours, nobody cares....
...Lots of people go to church.
You've entirely missed his point. You seem to do that a lot. He wasn't saying that nobody in the world cares that you love Jesus. He was quite clearly saying that nobody
here cares.
Please stop preaching. Play some games, try your hand at game making, enjoy the community, and engage in a mature debate or two. But do not preach to us. You're not particulary good at it. The people who wish to hear such a thing know where to go to find it. The rest of us are not going to be convinced, swayed, or saved by your quoting of the bible. Save your keystrokes for commenting on games that you enjoy.
Alynn, have you ever tried going to any clubs that are specifically for people who are looking for alternative relationships? There's got to be a few about.
QuoteAh. Finally, someone replied.
Don't get your hopes up, I don't fully qualify as a sentient being.
Quote"Look, just because you have to tolerate something doesn't mean you have to approve of it! If you had to like it, it'd be called the Museum of Acceptance! 'Tolerate' means you're just putting up with it! You tolerate a crying child sitting next to you on the airplane or, or you tolerate a bad cold. It can still piss you off! Jesus Tapdancing Christ!"
- Mr. Garrison, South Park
wow, I have to say I've never discussed moral relativism and south park quotes in the same breath. The distinction I see now is one of the right to be Pissed Off (tm) about something. On all other practical levels you haven't mentioned anything else going different between the two states. On that bare pissed off level, I'll try go with acceptance over tolerance since I don't see how being pissed off is productive really. Of course I fail, I get pissed off a lot of times, but I just don't figure this into a defense based on tolerance versus acceptance. If I have to have the right to be pissed off, I don't wanna. Me getting pissed off kinda transcends that type of discussion, which is sort of the point? I just find the concept of 'I have the right to tolerate, but be pissed off at what you're doing' kinda silly.
QuoteWhy is tolerance "passive" and acceptance "active"? Both seem equally passive to me; acceptance being even more so. Acceptance, to me, seems to be more of a "whatever, do what you want" thing, whereas tolerance is more of a Voltaire thing. ("I may not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it.")
Acceptance can be practically as passive as tolerance. On the moral level though, it's active because it requires a person to actively decide that he accepts what's going on, whereas to tolerate something can just mean that you're viewing it as a burden, delaying choice until it's over.
QuoteDoesn't a relativist view of morality undermine the need for morality altogether?
Yes, of course.
Now THIS is a 3 topic to 1.
Where should I answer (nowhere?): Helm and the old skool Squinky? JJ and his bullshit discussion, or Alynn and his potentialy interesting threesome?
Ahhh, what a difficult choice to make...
THere we go, choice made:
Vince this is the true purpose of every good christian. To save the ones that don't want to be saved.
The guy (gal? nay, he has authority!!!!!), is not preaching. He's quoting the bible and teaching us morals! that's even better!
I bet that he'll go to heaven himself and he'll probalby laugh to the rest of us in hell! There's not saving us I tell thee!
Now, JJ, don't you get it really? Your posts don't even make any sense, your approach to people is the worst ever (you're all going to hell (and YES you did imply that!), what is your background... I told you my background, what did you learn from that? Nothing! What does my background tell about me? That I'm from Greece and I like ouzo, feta cheese and moussaka! That's what! And probably that I love the sea...
Please, please let me know, from what you know aobut me, am I going to heaven, or hell? Cause if we all are, there's not need trying really...
I know I',m going to heaven, Kinoko told me...
No wait... Kinoko is a sinner herself. She wants to have SEEEEEEX with Vince, although he's married and she's engaged. And I may add that she wants to do it in front of Robocop! (<-Went a ltitle far here, but still can you imagine having sex, in front of the REAL Robocop? WOWW!)
Quote from: Nikolas on Wed 01/02/2006 08:19:01
No wait... Kinoko is a sinner herself. She wants to have SEEEEEEX with Vince
Hey! She said she loves me. What does that have to do with SEEEEEEX. That's how rumors get started mister!
WHAT THE HELL IS MOUSSAKA???
<edit> this is my best post ever...
Traditional greek food.
A layer of bessamel then some aubergine then some more bessamel some grated cheese, some minced meat and finally some more bessamel.
Vince, Oh sorry. From the old school squinky I was under the impression that love and SEEEEEX are all the exact same!
Esper: I can't believe that your post is SO small. Go ahead and EDIT it please.
Yes, my love for Vince is pure and transends physical pleasure.
I did edit it.
Oh, by the way...
WHAT THE HELL IS BESSAMEL? AND AUBERGINE???
<edit> oh. Aubergine is a city in World of Warcraft.... How do you eat that?
And what is seeeeeeex? Did I even spell it right?
Quote from: jfritzyb on Wed 01/02/2006 05:50:34
We all have lied, stolen, cheated, and the like and it is because we do these things that we will end up in hell! And what can we do in order to remedy the problem? We can't do a bunch of good things because we still have that desire to disobey Him. Therefore, it is through a self-surrender to Christ that we can be forgiven of our sins and old ways. And it is through this self-surrender that we find release from our old ways and that desire to disobey Him.
When we surrender ourselves to Him, he makes us new creatures!
"If any man be in Christ, he is a new creature; old things have past away, behold all things have become new."
Our desires change to where we want to love and please him through daily self-surrender. And that is the only key to True salvation--self-surrender to Christ.
Well, actually, much of what the Bible says is pretty metaphorical. Accepting Jesus into your heart won't magically turn you a good person. To grow spiritually, you need to actually get up and do something about it. Volunteer, help the poor, educate your children, be kind to others, that sort of thing. Detachment from the materialistic aspects of this world requires consistent day-to-day effort; it doesn't just disappear at the wave of a metaphorical magic wand.
Quote from: Helm on Wed 01/02/2006 07:31:19
wow, I have to say I've never discussed moral relativism and south park quotes in the same breath. The distinction I see now is one of the right to be Pissed Off (tm) about something. On all other practical levels you haven't mentioned anything else going different between the two states. On that bare pissed off level, I'll try go with acceptance over tolerance since I don't see how being pissed off is productive really. Of course I fail, I get pissed off a lot of times, but I just don't figure this into a defense based on tolerance versus acceptance. If I have to have the right to be pissed off, I don't wanna. Me getting pissed off kinda transcends that type of discussion, which is sort of the point? I just find the concept of 'I have the right to tolerate, but be pissed off at what you're doing' kinda silly.
I thought I implied that acceptance meant approval, whereas tolerance meant disapproval, but still allowing a person the right to think for him/herself. For example, if I were in a position of authority, and my advice on the moral rightness of Alynn's predicament were solicited, then I would state, quite clearly, that I disapproved. However, Alynn did not ask whether his actions were right or wrong; he already believes that they are right, and there's nothing anyone can do to change his mind (yes, that means you too, preachy guy). Being tolerant means that I respect Alynn's right to make his own decisions, even though I do not agree with him.
An accepting person, were he/she to be specifically asked whether Alynn's actions were morally right, would answer less definitively. Even if they disagreed, the most they would be able to say would be "Well, I wouldn't do it, but I can't really say whether it's right or it's wrong, because all morality is relative."
Moussaka (http://www.grundislavgames.com/moussaka.mp3) you say?
Thanks, I'm covered, Inquisitive Stranger.
exactly, grundislav! I'm covered as well!
Back to the topic it is!
Alynn: I sure hope that after all this enormous thread you're going to post some pics? ;D
Since this is my last night with a computer, I'd just like to thank everyone that contributed to my questions. Not just in this topic, but in the others as well (such as TV licensing, and what have you).
Next time we talk I'll be on GMT... and maybe, just maybe, I'll have time to start and actually finish a game. That is if I finally wrap up all my 800 other projects I have going :)
Until then...
Alynn the Yellow Eyed
Maybe rharpe and the other guy would like to know about this place: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/02/02/christian_shop/
I now see why these forums are supposed to be limited to 16 year olds and older...
I just wish the fundamentalists would reply to the points just addressed...
Quote from: The Inquisitive Stranger on Fri 03/02/2006 18:25:40
I just wish the fundamentalists would reply to the points just addressed...
It would just be bible quotes, which I'm sure you know... And that's no way to have a discussion...
Aubergine is the proper name for what Americans call 'Eggplant'. It's also a shade of purple (roughly the colour of an Aubergine, obviously).
I think you find aubergine in ratatoiue (sp), right? (Although i know what an aubergine is)
I just didn't read all that bible related stuff... but if I died and found a god or some gods judging me I'd be like "and who are YOU to judge me?"
Always the stubborn one.
Quote from: MrColossal on Fri 03/02/2006 18:34:15
It would just be bible quotes, which I'm sure you know... And that's no way to have a discussion...
The problem is not Bible quotes. Bible quotes can be very useful in discussions at times. The real problem here is refusing to listen.
You know, I actually feel rather relaxed that one of the two seem to have dissapeared.
Why do we keep buggin them. There is no way to get an answer, especialy from the new guy... Leave this thread alone I say.
Like you just left it alone?
The new guy probably has 3 or 4 more forums to preach to right now before he can come back here.
I think he has died and gone to heaven....or enetered saintdom...
Nah, he probably went to hell, in an ironic twist of events.
(http://kafkaskoffee.com/junk/twist.jpg)
Quote from: jfritzyb on Tue 31/01/2006 09:09:49
Oh, and one last thing...Have you tried the Are You a Good Person Test (http://livingwaters.com/good/)? I've taken it a few times and it's pretty interesting...
Awww hell, I took this stupid test, got 8 anwers right, but then at #9 I had to admit that I was lying.
Now my only salvation is if physicists are right. :)
I answered innocent to about three of them.
So the stupid question thing is comparing me to a rapist, even if I lied to someone, to not hurt their feelings. Apparently then I should have said "Yes, your bum looks big in that, and in fact it just looks big without any clothes on it." Well, that was an example..
I also answered innocent of murder, and something else that I can't remember.
Sorry if I'm hijacking but we already have one giant thread regarding sex at the moment so I figured no point in starting a smaller one. Firstly, I have the stamina of.... something with lots of stamina, when it comes to the bedroom. Cool huh? Unfortunatley its because Mr Southbound Trouser Train never arrives at the destination. He can when it comes (no pun intended) to some other things. But during sex its a no go. What in the hell is wrong with me? :O
Are you being cryptic so it take rharpe 3 pages to work out what you're saying?
Anyway, if it is what I think it is (i.e. Pele commercials) why not see your doctor?
Quote from: jfritzyb on Mon 30/01/2006 21:31:47
He gets out of prison--and looks around and observes how a lot of people around him act. What does he do? He goes around and copies them--having sex with whomever he pleases. The result? More children are born who, one way or the other, turn out just about like their father--THEY go around doing what their father did. And soon, most of the world is filled with angry kids--PURPOSEFULLY making other folks pregnant in order to make life miserable ON PURPOSE mind you!
Hmm... My mom grew up without a father, and i can tell you that she never (not once), went to jail or made anyone pregnant just for the heck of it ;D (actually, she is a sucsessfull real estate agent) The conclusion: Your logic and understanding of other people are crap. C R A P. Crap!
I think Cameron says that he pumps and pumps, but the fish does not split.
Without inquiring more (And I don't really want to know more), I think your suffle will probably explode if you ask your couple (I don't wanna know the gender neither...) to put more temperature in the oven.
What the f...?!? Why all this childish lenguaje? We have the "hide" command!Ã, :D
(Totally opened sex lenguaje here... go on reading at your own risk)
Spoiler
My opinion is that you don't reach to cumshot because you are not hot enough. Pumping it's not enough if you are too used to it. That's a bless if you have stamina, your girfriend's vagina does not get dry after the first orgasm (of you do have enough lube to keep the ass of your boyfriend lubricated...Ã, Ã, eeeek :-\) and a couple of CDs of the Beatles available. But if you want quick fun, ask her/him, to do more pre-act games, blowjobs, stripteases or something that really turns you on...
Cameron, warm blood helps.
And porno.
no! porn is objectifying sex, women, and furniture!
And dogs...
I think this is the first time the forums have played the role of Dear Deirdre ... careful, we don't want to put her out of a job now!
Dear Deirdre,
Long time reader first time writing in!
I was just writing in to ask you how would I go about getting past the medusa creature in the desert to the left of Mannanan's cottage? My boyfriend and I have been stuck for weeks and it's starting to ruin our gameplay experience! Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Signed,
Lost in the Desert
Cameron, been there. Damn it sucks. Don't listen to Farlander, he's never had problems in bed, I should know. Though I don't think this is the place I want to share my intim experiences since my brother reads this occasionally, and I will be meating some of these guys next summer... so.. all I can say in public is I *know* what you mean... that is if you mean what they think you mean :P
Quote from: [Cameron] on Sun 12/02/2006 09:54:23
Sorry if I'm hijacking but we already have one giant thread regarding sex at the moment so I figured no point in starting a smaller one. Firstly, I have the stamina of.... something with lots of stamina, when it comes to the bedroom. Cool huh? Unfortunatley its because Mr Southbound Trouser Train never arrives at the destination. He can when it comes (no pun intended) to some other things. But during sex its a no go. What in the hell is wrong with me? :O
I guess now you know how it feels to be a woman.
Quote from: MrColossal on Sun 12/02/2006 17:19:41
Dear Deirdre,
Long time reader first time writing in!
I was just writing in to ask you how would I go about getting past the medusa creature in the desert to the left of Mannanan's cottage? My boyfriend and I have been stuck for weeks and it's starting to ruin our gameplay experience! Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Signed,
Lost in the Desert
Well, first of all, my name's spelled with an 'a' at the end, not an 'e'. I sure as hell ain't Dr. Dre. As for the answer to your question, give the medusa creature your porn collection. As a radical feminist, she'll be so appalled by the objectification of women and furniture depicted therein that she'll just spontaneously combust.
I'm not sure, but aren't medusas freaking poisonous and thus dangerous? I would never have a poisonous seacreature mess with my sex life, that is if I had any... any medusas
Quote from: Tuomas on Sun 12/02/2006 18:51:48
I'm not sure, but aren't medusas freaking poisonous and thus dangerous? I would never have a poisonous seacreature mess with my sex life, that is if I had any... any medusas
Well, if you act like a gentleman towards her, then I'm sure you won't have any problems. Except for the fact that she might see you as chauvinistic and old-fashioned, of course.
I was just following CJ's lead! I didn't know if there was a Dear Deirdre column thing in England, as in Dear Abbey over here! I didn't think he might be refering to you!
Bad CJ, bad!
I know. However, since as far as I know, I'm the only one here with a name similar to Deirdre, I thought I'd just have some fun regardless.
Dear Daedroth,
I have an itchy red rash on my arms and face whenever I'm around Dagoth Ur... I've been really careful all through my life and I don't drink or smoke. Do you think I may be the Nerevarine?
Signed,
Moon and Starstruck
Dear Moon and Starstruck,
If you answer 'no' to any of the following questions, then you may be at a high risk of being the Nerevarine.
Quote from: rharpe on Tue 07/02/2006 04:47:41
1.) Do you think pornography is wrong?
2.) Do you think fornication is wrong?
3.) Do you think cheating is wrong?
4.) Do you think adultery is wrong?
5.) Do you think immodesty is wrong?
6.) Do you think erotism is wrong?
7.) Do you think polygamy is wrong?
8.) Do you think sodomy is wrong?
9.) Do you think hedonism is wrong?
10.) Do you think incest is wrong?
Consult your doctor for appropriate medical aid.
Yours Truly,
D
Quote from: MrColossal on Sun 12/02/2006 18:57:40
I was just following CJ's lead! I didn't know if there was a Dear Deirdre column thing in England
Just the excuse I've been waiting for to post this picture again:
(http://www.adventuregamestudio.co.uk/mittens2005/medium_DSCF0192.jpg)
Grundislav researches the plot for BJ5Though that does point out that I actually mis-spelled her name ... the travesty!
Quote from: The Inquisitive Stranger on Sun 12/02/2006 18:48:12
Quote from: [Cameron] on Sun 12/02/2006 09:54:23
Sorry if I'm hijacking but we already have one giant thread regarding sex at the moment so I figured no point in starting a smaller one. Firstly, I have the stamina of.... something with lots of stamina, when it comes to the bedroom. Cool huh? Unfortunatley its because Mr Southbound Trouser Train never arrives at the destination. He can when it comes (no pun intended) to some other things. But during sex its a no go. What in the hell is wrong with me? :O
I guess now you know how it feels to be a woman.
whoa wow instead of existentialist retort or post-modern deconstruction might I suggest a more compatible boyfriend?
a vast majority of women can't... finish... by being viciously... loved...
No matter the compatibility
I haven't viciously loved the vast majority of women (working on it) so I wouldn't really know, but in the cases where it has been going that way I've found vicious loving coupled with vicious but well-placed touching gets the job done, even if you're running old COM ports and she's Firewire.
I find it always help to whisper sweet nothings in my honey's ear. Then bring out the pudding....
Helm: well yes adding in touching helps... But just straight... plumbing... is very hard for most women...
Squinky: honey? pudding? this isn't snack time! TEAR HER IN TWO!
Yeah I guess. The big wildcard is mental stimulation anyway. There's been cases where you've barely started checking the pipes and because of a lot of stuff I won't even begin to try to understand she's finishing already. And let's not talk about the cases where this happens to men...
Straight plumbing for long periods of time is kinda difficult anyway, not for the reason one might think but rather because at least for me I have to be constantly entertained! You have to switch it up... Cameron's trouble isn't so inconcivable if all you're doing is plumbing.
No! Pornography has established beyond doubt that all women can orgasm through penetration alone, as well as having only a single set of labia and enjoying anal sex immensley! All else is feminazi claptrap!
Maybe try getting TELLING the woman to wear high heels?
*edited for politcally correctedness
And barking like a dog....
Quote from: MrColossal on Sun 12/02/2006 22:54:10
this isn't snack time!
Speaking of which, has anyone been affectionally bitten before? Say, on their hand, their shoulder, and their neck. Would said biting female just be mental, or is she a vampire?
Perhaps if said girl was my girlfriend, that might -just- have been weirdly acceptable, but she's not...
Yes, if there's blood involved you might want to consider your options. Have you saved recently? If not even a restart might be in order. Try a different difficulty level, and for once, set the animation speed down to something a bit more managable?
A good day to you.
Dear Deidre,
Someone started a thread about swinging in a forum I frequent. It started off fine until a religious fellow realized what it was about and flipped out. Once that was over with, everyone on the forums started posting creepy posts in it. So my question is this: I keep dying at the beginning of Space Quest 1! How do I avoid the guards?!
Sincerely,
Constantly Slaughtered by Sariens
(http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00009PY3X.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg)
It has Eternal Complications!11!!
Helm: No blood thankfully! Although I have a scar on my hand! I started biting back recently. She doesn't fight back at all! Goodness knows what her boyfriend thinks all the marks are from. Or if he cares. Or if he gets bitten too.
Squinky: Aw shit I don't want to live forever! Gosh that's a young Jim Carrey! and.. I just noticed your current avatar motto! You guys really love that line don't you!
Felicitations my dear colleague!
Quote from: ManicMatt on Sun 12/02/2006 23:30:39
Felicitations my dear colleague!
Is that some sick reference to Fellatio? Man, you are taking this forum down a dirty road....
Who?
Second thoughts.. perhaps I don't want to know...
EDIT: Does a google search.. oh I see! Who indeed hahaha!!
I joke! I joke!
You can't get scarred without blood spilling unless we're talking chemical burns or something. I suggest you stay the hell away from that woman. You are not god's unwanted children, don't you believe her.
Quote from: ManicMatt on Sun 12/02/2006 23:35:04
Who?
Second thoughts.. perhaps I don't want to know...
EDIT: Does a google search.. oh I see! Who indeed hahaha!!
You thought Fellatio was a person? You have just made my day, Thank you.
QuoteIs that some sick reference to Fellatio?
It would've apt, as we all know there's only one retort (caution! sweary site alert!*) (http://www.ghastlycomic.com/d/20050320.html) to "Good day to you!"
*Not that I care, but apparently you have to be careful about these things.
Thinking about it 'sweary' doesn't really cover why some people would have a problem with Ghastly. If you've never read Ghastly's Ghastly Comic before, don't start because of me. Or do, but don't blame me if you get all offended by it.
Helm: But she's sooo hot!
Squinky: Your welcome.
Ashen: *reads the comic* Huh? ....HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!! I don't believe it!
Quote from: Helm on Sun 12/02/2006 22:43:36
whoa wow instead of existentialist retort or post-modern deconstruction might I suggest a more compatible boyfriend?
A boyfriend period would be nice.
Quote from: Pesty on Sun 12/02/2006 23:22:46
Dear Deidre,
Someone started a thread about swinging in a forum I frequent. It started off fine until a religious fellow realized what it was about and flipped out. Once that was over with, everyone on the forums started posting creepy posts in it. So my question is this: I keep dying at the beginning of Space Quest 1! How do I avoid the guards?!
Sincerely,
Constantly Slaughtered by Sariens
Dear Constantly,
Play a LucasArts game instead. That'll help you lessen your chances of dying.
Love,
D-diddy
How is that different from a regular period?
ok, seriously, sorry for that. Let me try again
How is that diffMENSTRUAL BLOOD AND SEMEN
It's when the boyfriend bleeds every month instead of me.
Best. Thread. Ever.
Helm: I had to read her response several times before I -didn't- read it that way myself. I was like, "Boyfriend period...? What the? o_o"
I'd like to steer this thread towards more tasteful areas, hence a tasteful and tasty picture.
(http://www.bordbia.ie/go/Consumers/recipes/images/sundae-strawberry-360.jpg)
The only way that could be dirtier is if that strawberry was a cherry.
Mon dieu, such a gauche mixture of strawberry and cherry would appeal to none but the tasteless and Englishmen.
Tautology
If we had thread backups, this would be right up there. Andail would fight it, but we would tickle him until he gave in.
Quote from: Pumaman on Sat 28/01/2006 16:29:25
You can always try ... I find totally original lines like "do you believe in love at first sight, or should I walk past again?" work best :P
However in reality if you start talking to a totally random girl on the street then you're likely to get either CS-sprayed or a large bill at the end of the night, depending on what street it was.
I really guess it depends on the line you use ;)
Quote from: The Inquisitive Stranger on Mon 13/02/2006 00:38:18
Quote from: Pesty on Sun 12/02/2006 23:22:46
Dear Deidre,
...
So my question is this: I keep dying at the beginning of Space Quest 1! How do I avoid the guards?!
Sincerely,
Constantly Slaughtered by Sariens
Dear Constantly,
Play a LucasArts game instead. That'll help you lessen your chances of dying.
Love,
D-diddy
Dear Deidre,
Thank you for your great advice, I have switched over from space quest to star wars the problem is my pc seems to be crashing now... I can see how this lessens my chances of dying.
Regards
486
HAHAHHAHA, Why the hell is this still going???
By god, I think I created a Frakenthread....
And I'm so entertained by that.... VOTE ME AS BEST THREAD STARTER EVAH!!!!
Seriously...
Oh, and suddenly I've found they unblocked this site from work... although I still fly in 16 days...
Quote from: Helm on Mon 13/02/2006 00:45:45
How is that diffMENSTRUAL BLOOD AND SEMEN
Allright, who forgot to give the greek his Tourette's pills?
Btw, I didn't get the part about me fighting back-up threads. Or the part about tickling me. Although the tickling part sounded a bit intruiging.
nah I'm just saying theoretically that if there were a thread backups section in this forum, this would really not be the thread you'd choose to put there. And via tickling we'd get you to go along with it. We can tickle you anyway if you like.
Quote from: ManicMatt on Sun 12/02/2006 23:30:39
Squinky: Aw shit I don't want to live forever! Gosh that's a young Jim Carrey! and.. I just noticed your current avatar motto! You guys really love that line don't you!
I was playing Pirate Fry 3 (by Squinky, btw.) when I noticed this.
(http://koti.mbnet.fi/hurjat/good_day.png)
I said good day!
If you and your wife want to sex up with other people, your best bet is it attend a swingers club. You'll find all sorts of people just DYING for dual penetration. I recommend that you get another lady in on the action, personally. Imagine slathering them with baby oil and sliding up and down their lithe, supple bodies. Once you get a bit more experience, try triple penetration on your wife... that is, yourself and two other men. Two at one end, and the other shooting off in her mouth.
Whoever takes the oral position should probably drink lots of pineapple juice beforehand, since it makes semen taste DELICIOUS!
Loosen yourselves up with a few glasses of wine first, and also, bring a video camera.
I hope this helps.
Yeah, thanks.
Quote from: Petteri on Thu 16/02/2006 13:18:13
Quote from: ManicMatt on Sun 12/02/2006 23:30:39
Squinky: Aw shit I don't want to live forever! Gosh that's a young Jim Carrey! and.. I just noticed your current avatar motto! You guys really love that line don't you!
I was playing Pirate Fry 3 (by Squinky, btw.) when I noticed this.
I said good day!
Heh, that's pretty amusing. But I think I was using it to show how silly it is to actually say....
Quote from: Yutzster on Thu 16/02/2006 15:12:48
If you and your wife want to sex up with other people, your best bet is it attend a swingers club. You'll find all sorts of people just DYING for dual penetration. I recommend that you get another lady in on the action, personally. Imagine slathering them with baby oil and sliding up and down their lithe, supple bodies. Once you get a bit more experience, try triple penetration on your wife... that is, yourself and two other men. Two at one end, and the other shooting off in her mouth.
Whoever takes the oral position should probably drink lots of pineapple juice beforehand, since it makes semen taste DELICIOUS!
Loosen yourselves up with a few glasses of wine first, and also, bring a video camera.
I hope this helps.
And you're... how old? o_o
I always thought it was cranberry juice.
Rats!
cranberry juice makes me vomit so that's useful if you want to make a somewhat different sort of film
Cranberry juice is effective against UTIs though.
Which can be pretty common if you likey to humpy.
I am under the impression that beer gives a somewhat diferent taste. Sadly have not tried myself... ;D
Heh, that's the benefit of being an ex-ice hockey goalkeeper... Being able to give blow jobs to yourself... though I don't do that very much, it's kind off odd, and my back starts hurting nowadays... But I should try that pineapple juice thing sometime ;D Eh, don't take me too seriously here
Quote from: Yutzster on Thu 16/02/2006 15:12:48
I recommend that you get another lady in on the action, personally. Imagine slathering them with baby oil and sliding up and down their lithe, supple bodies. Once you get a bit more experience, try triple penetration on your wife... that is, yourself and two other men. Two at one end, and the other shooting off in her mouth.
Whoever takes the oral position should probably drink lots of pineapple juice beforehand, since it makes semen taste DELICIOUS!
Loosen yourselves up with a few glasses of wine first, and also, bring a video camera.
Please, take your fantasies elsewhere!
I'm sure a personal ad in the
Brighton Times will help you to fulfill them.
Quote from: Tuomas on Sat 18/02/2006 11:51:10
Heh, that's the benefit of being an ex-ice hockey goalkeeper... Being able to give blow jobs to yourself... though I don't do that very much, it's kind off odd, and my back starts hurting nowadays... But I should try that pineapple juice thing sometime ;D Eh, don't take me too seriously here
Please, take your fantasies elsewhere!
I'm sure a personal ad in the Brighton Times will help you to fulfill them.
Quote from: Tuomas on Sat 18/02/2006 11:51:10
Heh, that's the benefit of being an ex-ice hockey goalkeeper... Being able to give blow jobs to yourself... though I don't do that very much, it's kind off odd, and my back starts hurting nowadays... But I should try that pineapple juice thing sometime ;D Eh, don't take me too seriously here
What the hell, when did this thread become "spout off at the mouth about random stupid sexual things"! Were you people just waiting for a thread about sex to come along so you could crawl out of the woodwork with your weirdness?
uh huh huh sex I fuck goats